The Sunday Morning Talk Shows: The Review


Brokaw: Bill Ayers is a "school-reformer in Illinois."

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On FOX News Sunday, Claire McCaskill agreed with an Obama commercial which defines John McCain as an unstable, old man, saying that he has been erratic lately. Joe Lieberman, scoffing at Obama’s lead in the polls, pointed out that the Gore/Lieberman ticket had been trailing by 6-points with two-weeks left in 2000 and managed to win that election. At least the popular vote.

Karl Rove did not fault the McCain campaign for pulling out of Michigan, per se, but questioned why they would publicize it. He sees the best strategies as the ones to which you don’t draw attention.

Host George Stephanopoulos had four politicos on ABC’s This Week. Of note, Obama surrogate Ed Rendell said that the disaster facing our country was so great that even the racist voters of Pennsylvania would be compelled to vote for Obama despite the color of his skin. Ohio Senator Sherrod Brown, another Obama supporter, maintained that Republicans were allowed to have observers for the early balloting in Ohio. (A federal court ruled otherwise, but… ?)

On NBC’s Meet the Press, Paul Begala said that in the early ’80s, John McCain sat on the board of directors of a group affiliated with another group which was condemned by the ADL as anti-Semitics. Mike Murphy said that Obama’s character and associations are irrelevant to this campaign, which is about the economy. Moderator Tom Brokaw referred to Bill Ayers as a “school-reformer in Illinois.” In the roundtable afterwards, Gwen Ifill said that Sarah Palin used Thursday night’s debate to “give a stump speech to the American people” rather than debate.

On CBS’ Face the Nation, Dianne Feinstein said that John McCain is trying to “assassinate” (loaded word) Barack Obama’s character. Roy Blunt brought up that John McCain sought to regulate Fannie/Freddie when the Dems were resisting.

On CNN’s Late Edition, Rahm Emanuel promised host Wolf Blitzer that this bailout package was just a part of what Congress had to do. He promised that “other pieces will follow.” Marsha Blackburn, on the other hand, argued that the cost of the bailout was too high for the taxpayers.


LIEBERMAN & MCCASKILL ON FNS. First up for host Chris Wallace on FOX News Sunday were Senators Joe Lieberman and Claire McCaskill, surrogates for McCain and Obama respectively. Lieberman pointed out that Obama and Joe Biden were running against President Bush, not John McCain. He conceded that Obama was “talented” but said that McCain was “tested” and this is what America needs.

He argued that McCain was not going negative against Obama but stated that questions about Obama are “what political life is about these days.”

He argued that McCain and Palin were “very different from George Bush.”

Wallace played an Obama commercial which portrayed John McCain as a cranky, unstable old man. McCaskill said that there “really has been a lot of erratic behavior” from John McCain of late. She cited his actions during the bailout discussions.

Wallace talked about Sarah Palin’s recent attacks on Obama’s character, and Lieberman kept his distance. McCaskill laid them at the feet of John McCain, saying that he could call Palin and tell her to stop, that “we don’t need character attacks.”

On taxes, McCaskill argued that both Obama and McCain wanted to cut taxes, but the question was for whom each wants to cut them. Lieberman argued that since Obama wants to tax small business owners and “cap gains,” with many investments owned by middle income tax payers, it will only exacerbate the recession “which we are in.” Questioned about this “recession,” Lieberman stipulated that though economists might not call it a recession, the “people of Connecticut” know that it is one.

Asked about McCain being down in the polls, Lieberman noted that the Gore/Lieberman ticket was down by 6-points in 2006 with two weeks remaining before Election Day, and they won the election – “at least the popular vote.”

McCaskill said nice things about Sarah Palin’s style and declared that Joe Biden had won the debate on substance.

KARL ROVE ON FNS. Next up for Wallace was GOP strategist Karl Rove. Rove said that this race is proving to be “susceptible to drastic changes.” It is leaning toward Obama right now, he said, in part because of the recent economic crisis but also because of what McCain did during that crisis.

He see the race as being played on “McCain’s turf,” with Obama active in 9 Bush States and McCain in only 5 Kerry States.

He didn’t fault the McCain campaign for pulling out of Michigan, per se, but he did question why they were so loud about it. It should have been done quietly, he admonished, as the best strategies, you don’t draw attention to.

What McCain must now do, he said, is to go after Obama on his lack of qualifications and give voters and alternative on which to hang their hats.

FOUR POLITICOS ON TW/ Host George Stephanopoulos, on ABC’s This Week, spoke to Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty (for McCain), Pennsylvania Governor Ed Rendell (for Obama), Ohio Senator Sherrod Brown (Obama), and Florida Senator Mel Martinez (McCain). Pawlenty, who came off as the best of the four, pointed out that Bill Ayers is an unrepentant domestic terrorist with whom Barack Obama chose to associate when Obama was in this 30s, not when he was eight-years-old. Rendell grumbled about the “politics of personal destruction” and asserted that the issues were too important for such destruction. Sherrod Brown declared that McCain was just like George Bush. Pawlenty countered that he was not, and he began citing the many areas in which the two disagreed.

Steph confronted Pawlenty with a poll that shows Obama leading McCain by 18-points in Pawlenty’s home State of Minnesota. The governor pointed to a recent SurveyUSA poll which had McCain leading by a point, but conceded that Minnesota trends Democrat but is amenable to a maverick Republican like John McCain.

Steph asked Rendell how Obama would fare in a racist State like Pennsylvania. Rendell said that when even a racist is drowning in a river, he’ll accept assistance from anyone, regardless of skin color. He said that the nation was in so much trouble that even the racist voters of Pennsylvania would vote for Obama.

Sherrod Brown, a former Ohio secretary of State, said that the law need not be changed to allow observers to witness polling. They can already do so. (A three-judge panel of the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Cincinnati has ruled that they cannot, but what is that to a dolt like Brown?)

MURPHY, BEGALA, AND TODD ON MTP. On NBC’s Meet the Press, moderator Tom Brokaw had Paul Begala and Mike Murphy on to argue. “Keeper of the Scorecard” Chuck Todd first did the NBC electoral map, which shows Obama leading by 5 or more points in enough previously red States to be beating McCain in electoral votes, 264-174. He added that to him, “it feels as if Obama is a little bit ahead in Florida,” despite disputes to the contrary. He told Brokaw that Virginia and North Carolina were becoming Obama States because his campaign organization had “changed the electorate.”

McCain has a difficult path ahead.

Brokaw asked Murphy when looking at Todd’s map, “What strikes terror in your heart.” Murphy answered that “McCain’s barn is on fire.” He said that McCain is on a “losing path” and his campaign has to “look in the mirror” and change strategy. He said that attacking Obama is fine, but “they have to fix McCain,” get him connecting with voters.

Brokaw, with a little grin on his face, asked if there were a danger that Obama’s peeps could become complacent, given their huge lead. Begala said it was a danger but the Obama campaign “is a reflection of their guy, he’s just a very low-blood pressure guy. He doesn’t get too high; he doesn’t get too low.”

Brokaw described William Ayers as a “school-reformer in Illinois.” He played a clip of Palin talking about Ayers and smirked afterwards. Begala said that the guilt-by-association tactic would backfire on McCain. He pointed out that in the early ’80s, McCain had sat on the board of the U.S. Council for Freedom, which he described as an “extreme right wing” outfit which was anti-communist and was affiliated with an organization which had been criticized by the anti-defamation league as anti-Semitic. Another member of the board, Begala sneered, was General John Singlaub, who was “involved in Iran-Contra.” Begala said that this was so bad that he didn’t even use it in his anti-McCain novel. “He does not want to play guilt-by-association, or this thing will blow up in his face.”

Murphy said that Ayers has gotten off easy in Chicago and “the one guy who hasn’t condemned William Ayers enough is William Ayers.” Ultimately, though, Murphy contends that Obama’s character and associations are irrelevant to this campaign, as it will be “about the economy.” Murphy added, “Obama’s going to take some damage on this, but then he will pivot back to real life.” He wants McCain to run against the concept of the Democrats controlling everything in Washington. He referred to the questions raised about Obama’s character as “dubious.”

[In the roundtable afterwards, Gwen Ifill said that Sarah Palin used Thursday night's debate to "give a stump speech to the American people" rather than debate. Ifill added that she was powerless to call Palin on her lies or when she tried to change the subject.)

WILSON, BLUNT, GRANHOLM, AND FEINSTEIN ON FTN. On CBS' Face the Nation, host Bob Schieffer talked to Congresswoman Heather Wilson (R-New Mexico), Congressman Roy Blunt (R-Missouri), Governor Jenn Granholm (D-Michigan), and Senator Diane Feinstein (D-California).

Schieffer first compared Sarah Palin to Spiro Agnew, playing a clip of Palin speaking yesterday. He asked Heather Wilson if she agreed that Obama did not see America as a force for good. Wilson pointed out that Obama marched over to Berlin and "talked down about America." Obama thinks America is the problem, while Sarah Palin thinks we are the solution. Schieffer wasn't buying it, so she asked Dianne Feinstein, who pointed out that Obama was a little tyke when Ayers was a terrorist. Feinstein said that Obama was winning in the polls, and "John McCain is trying to assassinate Barack Obama's [pause] character.” It’s difficult to listen to this, Feinstein grumbled, when the nation is facing terrible problems.

Schieffer played the Obama commercial about John McCain being an erratic, cranky, old man. Roy Blunt explained that he did not think that McCain was erratic; rather, he suggested that it was in a “selfless way” in which McCain had worked for this bill. He explained that McCain was very purposeful and selfless in bringing this bill together. Schieffer turned to Jen Granholm, who said that Palin was not a maverick and was not, so far, winning Hillary voters to McCain. She said that Palin and McCain were just like George Bush. She said, “He’s decided to pull out of Michigan in the same way that George Bush has pulled out of Michigan for the last eight years.”

After a commercial, Schieffer asked Granholm – for whom George Will wants to amend the Constitution – if McCain had to change the subject from the economy. Wilson calmly laid out some differences between the two candidates on the economy. Wilson thinks McCain made a difference in getting the bailout bill passed. Feinstein argued that McCain has “parachuted in” and caused the negotiations to fall apart “at that very moment.” She credited Obama with laying the parameters for the agreement. She said that McCain was “very erratic in his behavior.”

Schieffer asked Blunt if Palin had rehabilitated herself and asked him if he thought Palin were qualified. Blunt thinks she is. He said that she is not “business as usual in Washington.” The ticket, he said, is about change. He pointed out that McCain had been pushing regulation for these financial institutions when the Dems in Congress were fighting against it.

Granholm said that the people of Michigan do not want folksiness when they are in such trouble.

RAHM AND MARSHA ON LE. On CNN’s Late Edition, host Wolf Blitzer talked to Representatives Rahm Emanuel and Marsha Blackburn. Wilson said she voted against the bill “because it was too much of a bailout and too little a workout”; however, she credited McCain with moving things along. Blitzer asked her why McCain was wrong. Blackburn argued that for her and for her district, it was too expensive. Blitz interrupted and argued how high the debt has risen under Bush and the Republican Congresses, so why, he asked, were the Dems to blame? Blackburn argued that Congress was to blame and that there are free market solutions to the current problem.

Blitzer asked Rahm about the pork in the bill. Rahm said that Marsha did not say that under Bush and the Republicans, the national debt increased by 65%. That, he said, is George Bush’s legacy. Rahm said that the economic disaster was a reflection of the Bush policy. He said that the some of the pork was good, but the Senate stuff should not have been a part of the bill.

Blitzer asked Blackburn about the job losses, and did her vote against the bill only made the crisis worse. Blackburn said that something needed to be done, but that they disagreed on what this should be. She feels that this should have been handled by the private sector, not by the taxpayers.

Rahm said that this was only one piece of something they have to do, with other pieces to follow.

Blitzer stipulated that Obama was arguing that McCain would bring more Bush disaster and he dared Blackburn to defend “the economic policies of John McCain.” She contended that Obama would raise taxes. She said that McCain was going to reduce taxes and reform spending, and this would make a difference. Rahm said that there would be a tax cut, but the question was who will benefit. Rahm said that “this time under George Bush will be known as ‘The Great Recession.’”

Emanuel said that if Obama was associated with Bill Ayers, John McCain was associated with Charles Keating.

= = = = =

According to Adam Nagourney of the New York Times:

His [Obama's] aides said they were looking to the news media to debunk the image of her as a blue-collar reformer.

Axelrod entrusted the media with the duty of attacking Sarah Palin. That might be his smartest bit of strategy to date.


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Has Meet the Press simply become an Obama Infomercial?

Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Sunday, October 5th at 11:58AM EST (link)

My God, they don’t even both to pretend to be impartial any longer, do they?

You have my condolances, Mark, for having to watch that.

“If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” – Joe McCarthy

In a word, yes. See here for a good explanation.

stang (Diary) Sunday, October 5th at 12:05PM EST (link)

See this piece by Victor Volsky at the American Thinker.

Conservatives have to realize one simple truth: the Big Media is not the enemy’s ally who can be won over; it is the enemy itself. The U.S. Big Media is every bit the propaganda arm of the Democratic Party’s left wing as Dr. Goebbels’ organization was the propaganda arm of the Nazi regime.

“Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any farther obedience, and are left to the common refuge which God hath provided for all men against force and violence.”

John Locke

 
 

Theh Pawlenty Answer

wiseprince (Diary) Sunday, October 5th at 12:13PM EST (link)

Tim Pawlenty defended McCain as being different that Bush and it was the best answer i have heard to date.

McCain needs to do exactly that in the debate but he’ll have to go further. What Pawlenty didn’t say was how McCain would do something different on the economy GOING FORWARD. If McCain can come up with a forceful answer on that it could become the new talking point for all surrogates and work as a very good defense against the “Same as Bush” attacks

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I agree with Karl Rove: Why publicize that you're pulling out of Michigan?

Rod_Patrick (Diary) Sunday, October 5th at 12:21PM EST (link)

Can anybody from McCain Camp explain this?

 

Because they're aren't??

PaRep (Diary) Sunday, October 5th at 12:24PM EST (link)

House Of Lies: How Congress Failed To Protect Our Economy

jzlouisII Sunday, October 5th at 12:30PM EST (link)

From the maker of Burning Down The House:

We need to spread this. If Mccain is not going to talk about this we better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5z9lD4C2Io

It's a long one..11 min.

speciallist (Diary) Sunday, October 5th at 12:34PM EST (link)

Yeah, Dem are just like Nazi's

liberalrepublican (Diary) Sunday, October 5th at 12:47PM EST (link)

Yeah, that works.

If you hate 40% of this country.

Just think, your son’s teacher goes home every night to plan genocide.

My Doctor can’t wait to perform experiments on “unworthy” sub-human subjects.

And Wolf Blitzer is Just like Goebels.

“Broadly speaking, liberalism emphasizes individual rights and equality of opportunity. … including extensive freedom of thought and speech, limitations on the power of governments, the rule of law, the free exchange of ideas, a market or mixed economy”

Work on your comprehnsion skills, LibRep.

stang (Diary) Sunday, October 5th at 12:54PM EST (link)

Big media is to Dems as Goebbels propaganda machine is to Nazis does not translate into Dems = Nazis.

“Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any farther obedience, and are left to the common refuge which God hath provided for all men against force and violence.”

John Locke

Ok...

liberalrepublican (Diary) Sunday, October 5th at 12:58PM EST (link)

So, letting Joe Biden slide is similar to dehumanizing millions and calling for their extermination?

You are right, I was over the top.

“Broadly speaking, liberalism emphasizes individual rights and equality of opportunity. … including extensive freedom of thought and speech, limitations on the power of governments, the rule of law, the free exchange of ideas, a market or mixed economy”

No LibRep, that is neither what I said nor implied by posting the excerpt from Volsky's article.

stang (Diary) Sunday, October 5th at 1:19PM EST (link)

Go read Volsky’s article at The American Thinker (I provided the link for you) since you apparently still don’t understand. If you have a beef with his characteriztion, take it up with him.

Don’t presume to put words in my mouth again.

“Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any farther obedience, and are left to the common refuge which God hath provided for all men against force and violence.”

John Locke

Sorry...

liberalrepublican (Diary) Sunday, October 5th at 1:21PM EST (link)

You posted it.

I thought you would stand by it.

My mistake.

“Broadly speaking, liberalism emphasizes individual rights and equality of opportunity. … including extensive freedom of thought and speech, limitations on the power of governments, the rule of law, the free exchange of ideas, a market or mixed economy”

I stand by what Volsky said, not your misinformed interpretation of it or your putting words in my mouth.

stang (Diary) Sunday, October 5th at 1:26PM EST (link)

Have you even read Volsky’s article? Is he equating Dem’s with Nazis?

“Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any farther obedience, and are left to the common refuge which God hath provided for all men against force and violence.”

John Locke

Actually librep, you're just being a self-righteous ***** ...

Martin Knight (Diary) Sunday, October 5th at 1:33PM EST (link)

That’s not what he said, you know that’s not he said and you’re just pretending that he did so you can get on your silly high horse.

Get over yourself.

I'll stand by some of it.

mbecker908 (Diary) Sunday, October 5th at 1:34PM EST (link)

The Democratic Party is responsible for the current national policy that an unborn baby is not entitled to basic human rights. And from that policy, enthusiastically endorsed by the Democrats for the last 30+ years, we see 1.5 million (mostly minority) unborn children butchered every year.

The Nazis used the same rationale – [some people] are not “human” – to slaughter the mentally ill, homosexuals (less Goering), Jews, Gyspies and anybody else they felt like.

They also have an interesting list of folks they’ve supported over the years, from Lenin/Stalin to the Communists who butchered five million in Southeast Asia after the Democratic Congress cut off funding to the Vietnamese military, to Communist regimes in Cuba and Nicaragua and now to Islamofacists in the Middle East.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Impartial Journalism is Dead

OldConservative Sunday, October 5th at 1:37PM EST (link)

This is just more proof that the state of journalism today is sad…

Back in the 80s, when I was studying journalism in college, professors would say “Check your facts, check your facts, check your facts.” Invesigation, validation an impartiality were a major part of what we were taught. That seeems to have all been forgotten today.

But take heart, readership and viewership of legacy mainstream media outlets is in a freefall. The market will eventually drive a return to sound basic principles as they realize that we expect journalism, not personal opinions and commentary.

no more tv ads....no more campaign visits....

MrSandman (Diary) Sunday, October 5th at 1:46PM EST (link)

What’s your definition of pulling out?

“Americans can no longer trust the economic information they are getting from this Administration.”

— Republican Senator Jim DeMint

There has never been "impartial journalism" anywhere.

mbecker908 (Diary) Sunday, October 5th at 1:51PM EST (link)

That’s a figment of your imagination. Cultured by journalism professors. And, FWIW, arguably the most dishonest collection of people on earth are the ones who run journalism department in major universities.

Journalists have always been biased. Historically, before the death of major newspapers, there were newspapers that stood firmly on partisan ground and made no bones about it. If you wanted both sides of the story you just bought two papers.

The problem today is that “journalists” have sold the public a bill of goods that they are impartial. They aren’t. They never have been (see Walter Cronkite). Now they are openly partisan and refusing to admit it.

Perhaps

kal Sunday, October 5th at 3:09PM EST (link)

the MSM publicized it for them?

After all, the One’s changes to his 50 state strategery last month didn’t get much press legs beyond a mention.

Clean up, aisle 5

hunter (Diary) Sunday, October 5th at 3:19PM EST (link)

Just go away.
YOU are a deliberate liar, and not very good at it.

hunter

There Are Degrees of Impartiality

IJB Sunday, October 5th at 3:44PM EST (link)

There’s also at least the pretense of striving for impartiality, and ignoring the idea of impartiality entirely. We used to have the former – now we have the latter.

I won’t kid you and tell you that true impartiality actually reigned when impartiality was the dominant ideal in journalism.

And I am personally glad that people are finally starting to get it through their heads that most reporters are in the tank for the Dems, and are not truly “objective”.

But I can’t help but think that the current journalism is far worse than the “old” journalism, even if the “old” journalism is viewed nostalgically with rose-colored glasses by some.

If given the choice, I’d rather have a Lib report at least trying (and maybe failing) to be impartial, than a so-called “journalist” who’s a total, unrepentant Leftie and who’s nothing more than a mouthpiece for the Kos Kidz. Because the latter is pretty much all we have now.

what get of his high horse he is a Libral rep.

PaRep (Diary) Sunday, October 5th at 4:04PM EST (link)

he was born on a High Horse

 
 
 
 
 
 
 

...an eduction reformer, and Pol Pot

OCBill (Diary) Sunday, October 5th at 9:33PM EST (link)

was a “agricultural reformer.” And, come to think of it, Pol Pot was an historically effective community organizer, too.

You can’t afford the price of free corn.

MSM publicized it for them?

Rod_Patrick (Diary) Sunday, October 5th at 10:04PM EST (link)

Here’s my take:

McCain campaign is full of snakes. He should have fired those traitors in his camp early on.

Remember that statement from a leftist woman newscaster (I hate the name) who argued with McCain that her brother was working for his campaign? That’s the real McCain’s problem.

 
 

Not sure I disagree with Ifill's characterization

The_Gadfly (Diary) Monday, October 6th at 8:45AM EST (link)

The problem of course is that she ascribes it ONLY to Palin, and not to Biden as well, with her in the tank for Biden. The debates aren’t debates, they are 60 minutes (more or less) of short infomercials for each of the campaigns. So the spin is partisan (and one of the reasons McCain should have fought to have her disbarred from the debate instead of saying he was certain she’d be professional about it) even if the characterization is accurate.

liberalrepublican, you've become tiresome.

Achance (Diary) Monday, October 6th at 9:05AM EST (link)

If you really are a Republican and not just a troll, you should seriously consider changing your registration because you don’t fit in even a very big Republican tent.

In Vino Veritas

No thanks. I don't like being spoonfed by people

mbecker908 (Diary) Monday, October 6th at 10:34AM EST (link)

who think I’m really, really, really stupid.

I’ll take an openly partisan reporter any day of the week. You know exactly where they’re coming from and they can have the luxury of being honest. Does ANYBODY really think the likes of Chris Matthews is an “objective journalist”? Or Olberman? Or anybody at the NYT? Please.