“Biden-like” Carly Fiorina to “disappear”


It's her lecture on the CEO-Presidential dichotomy.

Shall we call this Carly-gate? Or CEO-gate? Or anything-gate, really, because the media is really into [ ]-gates.

McCain advisor Carly Fiorina told a St. Louis radio station, when asked, that though she supported John McCain to be President, she didn’t think he could run a major corporation, as the two jobs require different skill sets. She later told MSNBC, when asked about the comment, that she didn’t think Obama, Joe Biden, or Palin could run a corporation either. Same reason.

A top McCain official evidently told CNN that the remarks were “no big deal,” but that they were “Very Biden-like.”

Carly Fiorina is neither a vice presidential candidate, like Joe Biden, or Joe Biden, whose comments sometimes hint at racist sentiments [slave State, Dunkin' Donuts].

“Carly will now disappear,” this source said. “Senator McCain was furious.”

Fiorina had several additional TV appearances this week on her schedule, but they were cancelled. A mistake, you know, is a mistake. Saying anything which could be remotely construed as questioning the ability of the candidate for whom you speak is… a mistake. Off she goes.

POOF <<

As for the remark being Joe Biden-like, I can see it. It is similar in tone to the time recently when Joe Biden questioned Obama’s judgment in arguably the single most important choice of his campaign: his vice presidential pick.

I like Carly Fiorina a lot, but I’m trying to follow her reasoning. She was said to be somewhere on John McCain’s veep list. I do not know if that’s true, but if he had asked her, would she have accepted? Or would she have determined that being a heartbeat away from the Presidency requires a different skills then running HO? Are these skill sets mutually exclusive?

I cannot be surprised that such a remark coming from a former, successful, CEO, as they’re wired to think that job is one not every politician can do. And I am not surprised that Carly has “disappeared,” as politicians and their political advisors are wired to think that not every CEO can be a successful campaigner.

These things happen during lengthy campaigns. Carly Fiorina can vanish from the scene for a while causing no tremendous loss. Joe Biden, on the other hand, is on Obama’s ticket. Barry, good luck with that. (Although he did seem to disappear for a while recently.)


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Carly wasn't even a good CEO

Caiwyn (Diary) Tuesday, September 16th at 8:04PM EST (link)

By most accounts, she ran HP into the ground. There were stories of HP employees holding impromptu parties in their offices when her resignation was announced.

 

Thump, thump,

Tbone (Diary) Tuesday, September 16th at 8:29PM EST (link)

NT

Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.

confirmed

WoodstockRedCat Tuesday, September 16th at 8:29PM EST (link)

We had a very nice cube celebration. Her name on the short list always concerned me.
She’s not a professional politician and didn’t understand that the media was just waiting, waiting, waiting, for this gotcha moment.
She made the mistake of believing they wanted to really discuss things while they threw her up as a brady bunch picture.

I don't think so.

Rod_Patrick (Diary) Tuesday, September 16th at 8:34PM EST (link)

Oftentimes, reform-based and target-driven executive leadership usually resulted to undermining the “right of employees” to be lazy and enjoy the status quo.

 
 
 

Correction Mark

Brian Simpson (Diary) Tuesday, September 16th at 8:36PM EST (link)

Fiorina’s original comments referred to Palin

It was only later in the day that she expanded the list to include all candidates (Biden, McCain and Obama).


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Except Carly was an industry joke

Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Tuesday, September 16th at 8:45PM EST (link)

We all loved her at HP cause she could always be counted on to make it easy for the competition.

I agree with the above comment, she has no room to talk about who can and can’t run a corporation.

“If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” – Joe McCarthy

 
 

Not the best day

olderthangandalf Tuesday, September 16th at 9:15PM EST (link)

for the McCain campaign’s economic advisor to implode.

This gives McCain a chance to restaff with someone who has a track record of success.

 

And I come back to my original comments

mbecker908 (Diary) Tuesday, September 16th at 9:16PM EST (link)

about Fiorina when her name first came up. She was utterly incompetent and a complete failure as CEO of HP. I seriously questioned McCain’s judgment allowing her anywhere near his campaign, let alone as a possible VP pick. Obviously, I was right.

And, while at least three of the four have no business in a corner office of any corporation in the US, I would be willing to give Gov. Palin a hard look.

She cut the market value of HP in half

Caiwyn (Diary) Tuesday, September 16th at 9:28PM EST (link)

And she laid off more people in 2001 than any other company. That’s not reform-based leadership, it’s just plain bad management.

 
 

Fiorina is an idiot.

Bill S (Diary) Tuesday, September 16th at 9:29PM EST (link)

Her disappearance is a godsend to the McCain campaign. The problem is she’ll probably wind up being a vindictive shrew and cause even more trouble now.

“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins

Really?

zroxx (Diary) Tuesday, September 16th at 9:33PM EST (link)

The company has become the world’s largest personal computer and printer-maker and its share price has doubled since she left — the fruits, say defenders and even some critics, of foundations she laid. Today, it’s difficult to find a former adversary in Silicon Valley who will criticize her.

Tom Perkins, 76, a venture capitalist then on the Hewlett- Packard board whom Fiorina has said she considers the architect of her ouster, praised her “strategic mind” and “persuasive powers,” calling her a natural for politics.

Of the Compaq deal, Perkins said, “Looking back on it now, it was brilliant, and it wouldn’t have happened without her.” [cite]

Miraculous recovery for a company she allegedly “ran into the ground”.

What that article won't tell you...

Caiwyn (Diary) Tuesday, September 16th at 9:51PM EST (link)

is that she cut the market value of HP in half before she was asked to step down. The fact that it bounced back after she was fired is not what I would consider to be an argument in her favor. And I don’t know how Perkins could be considered the architect of her ouster considering he wasn’t even on the HP board until a few days before she was asked to step down.

 
 
 

Well...

zroxx (Diary) Tuesday, September 16th at 9:59PM EST (link)

I have to agree with Fiorina. McCain and Palin have had lots of public-sector experience and have been practicing politics for a very long time. Seeking greater responsibilities in a higher public office than they were previously in makes sense.

But it would make utterly no sense for McCain to throw his hat into the ring for the CEO position at HP, or Wal-Mart, or Google, or any other major corporation. We’d laugh at him, because we know he hasn’t the background or the skill set to compete effectively against other CEO’s in whatever market/industry he entered. Same would be true of Obama, Palin, Biden, etc. Palin started her political career running for head of the PTA, the city council, didn’t she? So the equivalent and sensible ladder would be something like team lead, department director, regional manager, etc etc. Not zero to CEO.

The converse is true – a Fiorina suddenly running for V.P. or president would also be laughable. Much as we like to believe in the idea of every day Joe becoming president, or even a Steve Forbes, there’s a serious skill set and background mismatch. We may want policies shaped by people who have real world experience like Forbes and Fiorina (at least to whatever very limited extent government ought to be mucking around in the economy), but I should think we want someone who understands government and who is effective at governance to operate in that context and to have experience in that context proportional to the responsibilities of the position being sought.

McCain trying to be an effective CEO at Microsoft would be a little like Schwarzenegger trying to be an effective governor of Califor… .

and once again you're wrong, zroxx

pilgrim (Diary) Tuesday, September 16th at 10:31PM EST (link)

Actually Srah Palin has a background in business


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I'm surprised she lasted this long.

NightTwister (Diary) Tuesday, September 16th at 10:55PM EST (link)

I can’t believe there weren’t 1,000 others more qualified, competent, and available.

As they say, don’t let the door hit you on the way out…

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. – Winston Churchill

Well...

zroxx (Diary) Tuesday, September 16th at 10:58PM EST (link)

Anyone with experience in larger companies knows that long term strategies are planned to unroll over periods of years, not weeks or months.

In 2000 HP had annual revenue of 48B. In 2007 that was 104B. Post merger, revenue increased from 72.3B in 2002 to 86.6B in 2005. So I fail to see how it is that Fiorina “ran HP into the ground”. Revenues were climbing during her tenure, and continued to climb afterwards.

Maybe you can make the case that her execution of the strategy was sub-par and growth was slower than it could have been, but that’s hardly an argument that she ran the company into the ground.

Maybe you can offer something up that refutes the possibility that her work is responsible for some of HP’s current success, as postulated by Perkins, but you havn’t so far.

 
 

Actually, I have a hard time thinking of either McCain, Palin, Obama or Biden as the CEO of a major company

ZootSuit (Diary) Tuesday, September 16th at 11:03PM EST (link)

Although I have not met either of them personally, none of them seem to have the qualities I personally associate with a sucessful chief executive in private inductry. But then again, I don’t think Fiorina was a good CEO. I never thought she was in Meg Whitman’s class.

At HP, Fiorina was a constant source of “big ideas” but she could never execute them. Moreover, her ideas (like Obama’s) were often amorphous and even contradictory. For example, was she trying to make HP competitive against low-cost providers like Dell or against high-margin companies like IBM. Actually, I think she would say both but therein lies the problem; she never was able to define how HP could be both, let alone manage that type of transition.

And before someone mentions the merger with Compaq, yes, that was a good idea but the integration work was really done by Michael Capellas. He was the manager behind the scenes but I don’t think Fiorina’sego could have put up with that. Thus, Capella left.

But I do think good CEO’s can make good Presidents. Indeed, consider Mitt Romney. He was both an outstanding CEO and a decent Governor of Massachusetts. My problem with Romney was not his competence — indeed, I think I praised his abilities several times here on RedState — it was just I could not trust him. The Presidency was the first thing he ran for as a conservative. Plus, for all his money, I thought he was a weak — energetic but weak — campaigner.

But back on subject, I cannot say I’m sad to see Fiorina go. It was nice for McCain to have a prominent former CEO around and even as a spokesperson for certain issues but, materially, I don’t think she really added much.

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And once again you've misfired

zroxx (Diary) Tuesday, September 16th at 11:23PM EST (link)

Unless you can show where I stated that Palin has no background in business.

At any rate, being the “owner of a snow machine, watercraft and all-terrain vehicle business, and [co-owner] with her husband [of] a commercial fishing business” would hardly qualify her to be the CEO of a 150,000 employee corporation. If it did, then there are tens of thousands of small business owners across America who ought to send their resumes in to replace Mark Hurd. It could qualify her for middle management in charge of an equivalent size staff and budget, perhaps. You climb the ladder step by step, much as she has in government.

But I’ll tell you what, because evidently it has to be explained slowly rather than just assumed obvious: there’s nothing that says a McCain or a Palin couldn’t eventually have the experience and skillset to step right into, say, Steve Ballmer’s role at Microsoft. Of course we all know that Fiorina very likely wasn’t intimating that McCain or Palin lack the brainpower to eventually do just that (go ahead and make that argument if you have evidence that’s what she actually believes). What she very likely meant was that today they, like almost any other career politician, couldn’t step into that role. Which is a very sensible thing to say, but yes, it “sounds” bad and there’s an election at stake, and so there’s a reaction, and that just exemplifies the converse of what Fiorina said – almost all CEO types are not qualified to hold high ranking positions in presidential campaigns.

 
 

Actually the dumbest thing she said this week

bk (Diary) Tuesday, September 16th at 11:30PM EST (link)

was to whine about the SNL skit. Even if her comments (see below) were on target – which they weren’t at all – it would still be a dumb thing to whine about.

Just to "kowalski" myself

ZootSuit (Diary) Tuesday, September 16th at 11:31PM EST (link)

I don’t mean that as a jab against any of the four. It’s just that I have a hard time envisioning any of them as a CEO of a major company. But it did get me thinking who I could best envision them modelling as a CEO:

1) John McCain as Steve Ballmer. The quick temper comparisons and the “I’m always right” attitude they share.

2) Sarah Palin as Jill Barad, former CEO of Mattel. A tough one that I confess is made with respect to both being women. Both are “feminine” (okay, attractive), charismatic, and neither one seems to have any problems firing people.

3) Barack Obama as Carly Fiorina. Inspirational with big, amorphous ideas but without the day-to-day management skills necessary.

4) Joe Biden as … no idea. I just cannot, by any stretch of the imagination, think of him actually being the CEO of anything.

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This stinks.

Flagstaff (Diary) Tuesday, September 16th at 11:41PM EST (link)

I’m no fan of Carly Fiorina, but McCain should have used this flap to pillory the wingnuts, not to fire Carly.

Fox News played the entire clip, and immediately after her comment about McCain she said the same thing about Obama and Biden. That, of course, was edited out.

Maybe she should have known better than to say “McCain couldn’t be CEO of a major corporation,” in the first place, but McCain shouldn’t have said he didn’t know much about economics, either. If we insist that nobody can say anything that can be twisted to mean just the opposite of what is intended, nobody will be able to say anything substantive, or maybe nothing at all.

By letting this “creative” editing cause McCain to change course, he’s encouraging the jerks. The “clip” was just one step short of cutting words out of various speeches and putting them together in a way to discredit anybody.

He should fire back with an ad showing just what liars the Dems are.

“The press is so powerful in its image-making role that it can make a criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”– Malcolm X, Audubon Ballroom, December 13, 1964

Well...

zroxx (Diary) Tuesday, September 16th at 11:45PM EST (link)

I’d say they share at least a few qualities in terms of personality/character traits: drive, work ethic, ambition, ability to compete and outpace one’s peers.

To climb that high you have got to want it and you have got to work for it. It doesn’t fall into your lap, you don’t go around saying, “gee, I guess I’ll just be [CEO of HP / Governor of Alaska], might as well, nothing else to do…”. If you get that high, you really wanted it and you really worked for it. Palin worked for a city council seat, then she worked for a mayor seat, then she worked for a governorship, now I suspect she’ll attain the Vice Presidency, all the while building up experience at each stage that set her up to be effective at the next.

I’d argue similar drive, ambition, and competitive spirit is behind, e.g. Fiorina’s career in the private sector. What’s different is context. Being on the top rung of one ladder doesn’t qualify you to be at the top rung of the other ladder. It doesn’t mean it’s impossible for you to climb up step by step, which is evidently what people here think Fiorina’s comment implied.

Yes. I thought it

Flagstaff (Diary) Tuesday, September 16th at 11:49PM EST (link)

unintentionally made “Hillary” look like the snooty sorority girls in Revenge of the Nerds or Animal House and “Sarah” came off as down to earth and funny.

“The press is so powerful in its image-making role that it can make a criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”– Malcolm X, Audubon Ballroom, December 13, 1964

I think we agree, which is why I sort of "kowalski'ed" myself

ZootSuit (Diary) Wednesday, September 17th at 12:18AM EST (link)

It’s just at this point, I think all four have gone pretty far in the “public service” sector and at that point and after awhile, the skill sets for private sector CEO and public sector administrator begin to diverge.

Allow me to make an analogy with sports. Most very good athletes,even professional athletes, I know are very good at more than just their particular sport. For example, Randy Moss is a very, very good basketball player. But after a certain point, for whatever reason — personal preference, their particular skill set matchs one particular sport they like just a little better than another, whatever — they begin to concentrate on that particular sport. Thus, they become worldclass in one sport but not in the other (although they still retain their basic superior athletic ability). You simply begin to practice the things unique to your sport more.

I think it’s the same way between political office and the provate sector. Yes, many characteristics overlap but after awhile, most people begin to “specialize” in one or the other and the talents and abilities not critical for their chosen path but critical for the other begin to atrophy, relatively speaking. At a certain level of achievement, the differences in skill sets become more prominent.

Thus, while I think McCain, Obama, and Palin (notice I personally did not include Biden) could have become private sector CEO’s, I think they have all gone sufficiently along the path of politics to the “detriment” (relatively speaking) of a up-from-the-bottom career in the private sector.

But just as there are people great at more than one sport (cf. Jim Brown or Bo Jackson), there are those who are outstanding in both the private and the public sectors. Which is why I tried to “model” what type of private sector CEO McCain, Palin, and Obama might be.

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The good news out of this

Illinicon (Diary) Wednesday, September 17th at 12:21AM EST (link)

it would appear that Meg Whitman will be the new face of the McCain economic intelligensa. As someone who started a buisness from scratch and led it to be one of the leaders in its sectors, she is unique postion to articulate how exactly Obama’s tax policies would kill small buisness. Would Ebay even be around if Obama’s tax plan was the law when the company started?

My Potus shortlist

declared candidates:

1. Tim Pawlenty
2. Herman Cain
3. Gary Johnson
4. Rick Santorum

among declared and rumored candidates:

1. Rick Perry
2. Tim Pawlenty
3. Rudy Giuilani
4. Herman Cain

Been to ebay lately??

cableguymn Wednesday, September 17th at 12:28AM EST (link)

Most sellers will tell you, meg ran it in to a hole as well.

Sellers can’t leave deadbeats negitive feed back (at all..)

Fees went up, up and away!

Ebay is starting to dictate shipping prices for media. Try selling a set of books, 4.00 shipping..

Well.. what!?

Remington_Steele (Diary) Wednesday, September 17th at 1:27AM EST (link)

“Anyone with experience in larger companies knows that long term strategies are planned to unroll over periods of years, not weeks or months.”

Um, you live and die by the quarter in U.S. markets, not by the years. Anyone with experience in larger companies should know this. Even large mergers have to be run to quarterly goals.

“Revenues were climbing during her tenure”

Revenues do not make a good CEO, profits and earnings per diluted shares do.

“that’s hardly an argument that she ran the company into the ground.”

True, slow growth isn’t a good argument, but nicely executed red herring. Lack of confidence from the board is the only argument in large businesses.

Shares of HP (Research) jumped 6.9 percent in heavy trading on the New York Stock Exchange Wednesday on the news. But at one point, the stock was up as much as 10.5 percent.

“The stock is up a bit on the fact that nobody liked Carly’s leadership all that much,” said Robert Cihra, an analyst with Fulcrum Global Partners. “The Street had lost all faith in her and the market’s hope is that anyone will be better.”

http://money.cnn.com/2005/02/09/technology/hp_fiorina/

Carly got the boot soon after she gave the boot to me. Luckily, I went to another company and hired three guys from my HP team. Interestingly enough, I did celebrate her departure.

 
 
 

Carly did not and will not disappear

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Wednesday, September 17th at 3:57AM EST (link)

She was on Fox News all afternoon AFTER the CEO gaffe.

I must admit that I have usually been impressed with her lawyer-like skills in defending McCain and the GOP on Sunday shows and other cable shows, and esp her ability to respond quickly with logical rat-a-tat-tat bullet points to refute liberal premises, but

I disagree wither her CEO skill set dichotomy, esp with respect to Palin and McCain, in that order, but also even with Obama and Biden, in that order.

But I certainly hope that this one gaffe will not cause the campaign to discard a great asset.

I must defend Biden against charges of any hints of personal racism. His slave state comment was meant to convey the fact that he can identify with blacks and their plight because he knows them personally and because he knows the history of his state. The Dunkin’ Donuts remark was actually his way of bragging on Indian Americans for the way they grab hold of the American dream as entrepreneurs.

But I do agree with this statement Mark:

“I cannot be surprised that such a remark coming from a former, successful, CEO, as they’re wired to think that job is one not every politician can do.”

Aren’t we all guilty at times of vanity.

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This looks like a matter of personal pride

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Wednesday, September 17th at 4:08AM EST (link)

about CEO’s and she was wrong, but given that I have seen her with my own eyes perform brilliantly against libs on Sunday shows, etc…it is quite irrelevant whether she ever failed in business. She is competent as a surrogate defender. She made a mistake here. That’s one mistake.

As for people in business and politics. Most of the greats fail many times before succeeding.

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successful CEO's can be as different as night and day

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Wednesday, September 17th at 4:11AM EST (link)

The peanut gallery has laughed at all kinds of people that went on to be successes in business.

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Carly 'The Dolt' Fiorina

braininahat Wednesday, September 17th at 4:20AM EST (link)

Carly Fiorina, you dunce, why didn’t you borrow Obama’s telemprompter before your interviews?

 

Time to get Mitt Romney out front and center

c17wife (Diary) Wednesday, September 17th at 4:33AM EST (link)

as well.
Say what you want about the man’s governing record in MA, but you can not dispute that the man knows his economics.
He can have a very frank conversation with the American people wrt how to turn this sh*tstorm around.

I know he said he would not serve on the cabinet, but I’d love to see him as the next Treasury secretary.

Erick, if you know any one in the McCain camp, please give them this bit of advise.

Put Sarah Palin out in front of this sham drilling bill. And let her rip. Let her be Sarah.
And put Romney on every single show they can to tell the American people that the democrats OWN this mess in the market and John McCain and Sarah Palin are coming to clean it up.
Please, quickly get out ahead of this while the polls are still slightly in our column.

Duty is ours, outcomes belong to God.~Mike Pence

Carly was horrible...

Vinnster Wednesday, September 17th at 5:26AM EST (link)

The day she was fired was one happiest days I ( and every other HP employee) ever had at HP in 25 years. When she took over the stock was at $60+. By the time she “managed it” it was at $12.

The ONLY thing she was ever good at was, she is a good TALKER and CHEERLEADER. I was present at many of her presentations and she can talk-the-talk, but she could never execute anything.

In her defense, the layoffs were a result of the mergers that created redundant jobs…when you have two divisions (competing products before the merger) that produce the same product you end up with to many employees.

Mark Hurd (Carly’s replacement) is running the company like one should be run.
Mark Hurd’s announcement of major job cuts this week is the result of merger of EDS that has created redundant departments again that have to be reduced.

Bring some data...

zroxx (Diary) Wednesday, September 17th at 6:44AM EST (link)

… you live and die by the quarter in U.S. markets …

Which has nothing to do with my point that HP’s current success may well be due in part (perhaps large part) to things Fiorina started during her stint. So that’s a misfire.

But at any rate…

2nd quarter 2003 results:

… EPS $0.29, $0.02 Higher Than Analyst Consensus Estimates … operating profit totaled $1.14 billion, up 4% sequentially

4th quarter 2003 results:

Non-GAAP operating profit of $1.4 billion, up 63% year-over-year; Non-GAAP EPS $0.36, up 50% year-over-year; compares to analyst consensus estimates of $0.35

2nd quarter 2004 results:

… operating profit of $1.3 billion, up 17% year-over-year … GAAP diluted EPS was $0.29 per share, up 32% from $0.22 year-over-year.

4th quarter 2004 results:

… earnings per share (EPS) of $0.41, up 14% from $0.36 in the prior-year period. … operating profit of $1.5 billion …

If you’re trying to argue that Fiorina ran the company into the ground then you need to bring some data to support your claim.

Whether the board of directors thought HP could do better with another CEO and/or didn’t like or respect her on a personal and professional is an entirely different topic than HP’s actual performance during her stay, and in the short span of time immediately afterward.

Too much baggage to be a surrogate

olderthangandalf Wednesday, September 17th at 7:07AM EST (link)

There are a lot of articulate Republican business people out there, male and female.

The biggest problem with using Carly Fiorina as a surrogate is that she’s Carly Fiorina. Say her name and people think of falling stock prices, massive layoffs, outsourced jobs, soap opera drama with the board of directors.

Maybe it’s not all her fault, maybe it is, but either way, McCain is so weak on the economy anyway he doesn’t need the baggage.

good point and she is admittedly a mixed bag

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Wednesday, September 17th at 12:57PM EST (link)

maybe my recent admiration for her is that several times she has said exactly what i was thinking ought be said in smacking down libs and their premises.

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5 ^ 5

Remington_Steele (Diary) Friday, September 19th at 3:51AM EST (link)

Right on c17wife!

I watched Chris Mathews interview Romney on the McCain economics situation. I thought it would just result in a shouting match, but Romney was right on message, nailed the questions including Chris’s criticism of McCain’s “fundamentals of the economy are good” and even seemed to convince Chris. I was shocked. Romney is really the economics asset, McCain needs to use him.