Sunday, August 31, 2008
PREFACE:
They don’t know what hit them.
On FOX News Sunday, lone guest John McCain described Sarah Palin as a “partner and a soul mate,” in changing the business of politics-as-usual even if it means taking on some in their own party.
On ABC’s This week, Senator Lindsey Graham said that Sarah Palin was “absolutely” qualified to become President, more so than is Obama: “What’s he done?” Next up was a clearly angry and flustered John Kerry, who declared that John McCain is a “radical,” not a maverick. He added that Sarah Palin is the next Dick Cheney.
On NBC’s Meet the Press, moderator Tom Brokaw made the case that Sarah Palin is unprepared to be President by citing her mother-in-law. Governor Tim Pawlenty, who gave as good an interview as I’ve seen from him, deftly turned the question around on Obama. This raises the question of whether Tom Brokaw was prepared to step in to Tim Russert’s role.
On CBS’s Face the Nation, Rudy Giuliani said that in Joe Biden, Obama had picked “more of the same,” while McCain had opted to select a partner. Joe Lieberman said that the Palin selection was like “opening the door and bringing some fresh, Alaska air into Washington.” Next up, Carly Fiorina said that she has talked to some Hillary supporters who are “ecstatic” of McCain’s selection of Sarah Palin for his ticket.
On CNN’s Late Edition, Fred Thompson delighted in the fact that everyone is comparing the Republican vice Presidential nominee’s preparedness with that of the top of the Dem ticket. Next, Chris Dodd accused President Bush of letting New Orleans drown three years ago, and he added that the Republicans would have held their convention anyway this year if they were certain that President Bush would handle the emergency management properly.
The full, show-by-show reveiw is beneath the fold.
JOHN MCCAIN ON FNS. Host Chris Wallace’s lone guest on FOX News Sunday, from St. Paul, was Senator John McCain. And Wallace started in on the Palin pick: is she the best person to have a heartbeat away from the Presidency”? McCain replied: “Oh, yes. She’s a partner and a soul mate.” He pointed out that she is a reformer and posited that though he does not like the term “maverick,” she is one as well. While acknowledging that he has paid a price for taking on his political party, he pointed out that Sarah Palin has taken on hers in Alaska.
McCain said that Palin brings to the ticket “a spirit of reform and change that is vital.”
Wallace asked about Palin’s paucity of foreign policy and national security experience. He asked if she were more unprepared than is Obama. Striking at the Obama campaign on what it plays at is strength, McCain said that Palin has the right judgment to lead on foreign policy. (Judgment over experience was Obama’s line against McCain’s experience.) He said that she knew that Iran was not tiny and insignificant, something Obama had asserted, and that the surge worked, something Obama has stubbornly refused to acknowledge. He cited Palin’s “experience and judgment as an executive, something Obama lacks.
Wallace asked McCain if questions about Palin’s readiness to serve as President reinforced concerns about his age, about his actuarial tables and the chances that he could drop dead at any moment. McCain explained that he understands that he has to make the case that this is not going to happen, that he has to show energy and vigor.
Wallace said that the Veep choice was often called a candidate’s first Presidential decision. What would it say if it looked like he might have made that decision based on politics? McCain answered that choosing Palin was what he thought was best for the nation. It is a new generation of Republican leaders, he said.
Wallace brought up the line from Obama’s Thursday night speech in which he chides McCain for questioning his patriotism and love of country. The senator answered: “I have no doubt about Senator Obama’s patriotism. I have grave doubts about his judgment.”
About the Britney-Paris ad, McCain explained again that it draws up the contrast between the two candidates and it has a healthy sense of humor. Asked about President Bush’s Administration, McCain said that history will judge it. McCain doesn’t like the “spending spree” on which the Bush Administration went, but he pointed out that we have not been attacked since September 11.
As for the difference between a McCain Administration and President Bush’s, McCain said that he would cut spending, work on climate change, secure Afghanistan, build a global coalition to take on Iran, and his first priority will be to fix the economy with job creation and lower taxes.
“Reform, prosperity, and peace.”
LINDSEY GRAHAM ON THIS WEEK. Over an ABC, host George Stephanopoulos’s first guest on This Week was Senator Lindsey Graham. About Gustav vs. the Convention, Graham assured Steph that the GOP can’t do “anything inappropriate” and hinted that they would raise money at the Convention for Gustav’s victims. He said that he would advise McCain to visit the area but not to distract from the efforts down there.
In Palin, Graham said, McCain had been “looking for a partner,” someone who had done in Alaska what McCain wants to do in Washington. She is “absolutely” prepared to be President on Day one, Graham said in response to Steph’s question, more so that is Obama. What about on national security, Steph asked, and Graham pointed out that, well, she’s headed the Alaska National Guard and Obama has done nothing: “What has he done?”
He referred to Palin as “qualified beyond belief.” Obama has been in the Senate for a few years, he said, and he’s been away from the Senate for than he’s been there.
JOHN KERRY ON TW. To answer Senator Graham, Steph had on Senator John Kerry, who is usually condescending beyond his knowledge abilities as well as calm. There was something not-so-nice under his saddle this week, though. He told Steph: “You’ve just heard them attack John McCain’s character!” He meant to use Barry’s name, but he never corrected himself.
A visibly angry Kerry sputtered that John McCain had bought into the “neocon philosophy” that invading Iraq would make the Middle East as safer and more democratic region, which, he said, is demonstrably false. He said that Iran was more dangerous than ever and al Qaeda had expanded from four countries in 2001 to several skillion today.
He said that John McCain is not a maverick: “He’s a RADICAL!”
He said that while John McCain would have brought the third term of George Bush, McCain/Palin would bring the third term of Bush/Cheney. Why is Palin like Cheney? Kerry said that, like Cheney, Sarah Palin has “zero foreign policy experience.” (Uh, Cheney was SecDef under GHWB.)
Kerry fell into the trap, though, and he’s defending his guy in a comparison with the Republicans veep nominee, essentially saying that the adults on the tickets are Joe Biden, the Dems #2, and the top of the Republican ticket, John McCain. He said that Obama has been in the Senate for four years and Palin has been governor for only two. He asserted that Obama had so served in the Senate more than he had been away, though he didn’t seem to be certain.
Steph brought up that Howard Wolfson, Hillary’s old comm. Director, posited that the Palin pick would attract some of Hillary’s female supporters from Obama. Kerry responded by insulting both Wolfson and Hillary’s female supporters. He asked how “stupid” does Wolfson think Hillary’s supporters are. They support Hillary because of the issues, not because of a desire to break any glass ceiling.
Kerry called Palin a climate change denier, a member of the “flat earth caucus.” (He backed his argument with nothing.) He said that McCain had wanted to select Ridge or Lieberman but that Rush Limbaugh and the right wing had vetoes those choices and forced him to pick another Dick Cheney.
TIM PAWLENTY ON MTP. From the site of the Republican National Convention in St. Paul, Tom Brokaw opened Meet the Press by interviewing Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty. The governor said that the contingency plans ranged from slightly modifying the schedule to altering it fundamentally. The convention “has to go forward at least four days,” he added.
Brokaw declared that “we had a thunderstorm of epic proportions” on Friday when McCain named Sarah Palin as his running mate. (Get it? Thunderstorm, hurricane. Get it?) He pointed out that she has been governor for only two years and before that was mayor of a small town, while John McCain is an old man who has survived cancer and thus could snuff it at any moment. This country is involved in two wars, faces a resurgent Russia, a rogue Iran, and the greatest financial crisis since the Great Depression (still at it). What has prepared her for this? Pawlenty answered that like McCain, Palin is a “maverick with a record of reform.” She’s smart, strong, capable, dedicated, diligent, with executive experience, he said. He linked the energy issue with national security and noted that she has more experience than has Barack Obama. Brokaw countered that Obama had earned experience by campaigning for the last twenty months and participating in the 20+ Dem primary debates. He’s been vetted by the American people, Brokaw argued, while Palin has not.
Brokaw asked if Palin would be as good on the economy as businessman Mitt Romney or as good on national security as former DHS Secretary Tom Ridge. Or, for that matter, as good at anything as is Joe Lieberman? Pawlenty answered that part of the job was to address the needs of average Americans, and Palin has “lived that life.”
Brokaw recited from a Fairbanks Daily News-Miner editorial in which the writer editorialized that Palin has never been interested in federal issues and foreign affairs. Palin is a “neophyte in comparison to Obama,” the paper insisted. He also quoted from the Minneapolis paper’s editorial decrying Palin and unprepared, and he quoted Sarah Palin’s mother-in-law (!) as suggesting the same thing. Pawlenty turned it around on Obama that while Obama has been running for President, she has been successfully running the large enterprise called Alaska. Brokaw pointed out that it’s a small State which gets most of its money from the oil industry. Pawlenty countered that it is larger than the enterprise for which Obama worked as a staffer in Chicago.
Brokaw sneered that McCain had to pick a pro-life veep nominee. Pawlenty countered that no one would think to assert that Obama had to pick a pro-choice nominee. Brokaw looked uncomfortable and moved on.
And on and on and on. There are doubts about whether Brokaw was prepared to step in and assume Tim Russert’s job.
RUDY AND JOEMENTUM ON FTN. Rudy Giuliani and Joe Lieberman were Bob Schieffer’s guests on Face the Nation. (When talking about Gustav, Lieberman called himself a “Democrat visiting the Republican Convention,” not an Indie. They are “1,000% better prepared,” he said, than they were for Katrina.)
First Rudy (from Sag Harbor, NY). Rudy said that they had to make sure that the focus is on the south, where Gustav would hit. Things have to be scaled back, he said, and McCain would do it. He added that one can’t have better preparations for dealing with an emergency than being a governor and a mayor, as Sarah Palin has been.
Schieffer played a clip from tonight’s 60 Minutes of Obama answering a question about his own preparedness vs. that of Sarah Palin by saying that he picked Joe Biden so he can “push back” and tell him that he’s wrong. Rudy answered that Obama had to say those things because he has never had an executive experience, and it took him three different responses to get the proper reaction to what happened in Georgia. Senator Obama opted for the past in choosing his veep – more of the same – while McCain chose the future.
Schieffer asked if he really thought Palin were more qualified to be President than is Obama, and Rudy said “absolutely.” He added, “She’s made decisions.”
Lieberman up next. He was in Washington. He said that McCain “made a bold choice,” right to the heart of “what people want.” Change in Washington. Taking on lobbyists, big corporations, own party. He called Palin a “maverick” who has done in Alaska what McCain has done in Washington.
Bringing her onto the ticket was like “opening the door and bringing some fresh, Alaska air into Washington.”
Schieffer said that this sounded like John McCain’s own choice. Lieberman said it was, pointing out that John McCain doesn’t need to fill any gap behind him with foreign policy experience.
CARLY FIORINA ON FTN. Schieffer told Fiorina that “clearly, this was a bid” to get the disaffected Hillary voters. Fiorina said that she’s talked to some of them, and “they are ecstatic” over the Palin pick. Schieffer posited that the hardcore Hillary voters were as staunchly pro-abort as one can be, but Fiorina said that most women are not single-issue voters. She said that all voters, men and women, appreciate “authenticity and consistency.”
Schieffer asked her if she thought Palin were the best woman he could have picked, and Fiorina answered that she was a “wonderful pick.”
FRED THOMPSON ON LE. Fred’s due to double his speaking time after California Governor Ahnold backed out to deal with a budget crisis. Fred agreed with Wolf that he’s never seen anything like this happen at convention time, though he is impressed with the way we’re preparing. He agreed with Blitzer that it’s not a good time for Republicans to be seen partying, but he said that the deeper reality is that convention attendees are concerned.
It’s unfortunate that so much work and planning is being pushed aside, “but you’ve got to keep your priorities straight.”
Fred said he was surprised “and delighted” by McCain’s selection of Sarah Palin. He described her as the kind of person whom the people in the Beltway say they want. Blitzer pointed out her lack of foreign policy and national security experience, and Fred pointed out that you don’t get such experience through coming on the Sunday talk shows or sitting in the Senate. “She has more experience than Barack Obama, and as long as we’re comparing” the top of the Dem ticket with the Republican veep pick, “we’re going to be fine.”
Wolf cut it off at this point. Hard break.
CHRIS DODD ON LE, Blitzer next spoke to Senator Chris Dodd, who was wild and repulsive in his attacks. Dodd accused the Bush Administration of murder, of “letting this city [New Orleans] drown three years ago.” He said that McCain has “said repeatedly that he wanted to have four more years of the eight years of the Bush/Cheney Administration.” He said that he hoped FEMA had learned its lesson, but he was concerned. He has no illusions, because Bush/Cheney had failed miserably.
John King asked him if he actually thought that McCain would have a four day party with Gustav destroying New Orleans. Dodd said that the only reason Republicans were talking about possibly cancelling their convention is that no one trusts Bush to handle it correctly. (No mention of Louisiana Governor Jindal’s preparation and readiness compared to the cluelessness Kathy Blanco, or the learning curve of such as New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin and Jefferson Parish president Aaron Broussard.)
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A lot was made of Sarah Palin’s inexperience, but the Republican guests turned this around to question Barack Obama’s lack of same. Like Fred Thompson points out, this is not a winning strategy for the Dems and the media. Between this and a hastily-written, easily refutable, and absolutely sophomoric piece by Harris and Vendehei in Politico.com Saturday, I can see where the Dems and the media are trying to take this. It will be irritating, to be sure, and almost mind-numbing, but there is little way John McCain and Sarah Palin can lose this part of the game unless Barry dedicates more of his money than he can afford to pushing the meme and people resume absorbing and believing the narrative of the partisan media.
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You have to wonder what kind of fantasyland
kowalski (Diary) Sunday, August 31st at 12:32PM EST (link)You have to wonder what kind of fantasyland John Kerry lives in for him to confuse and compare Sarah Palin with Dick Cheney. ‘Nuff said.
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kowalski (Diary) Sunday, August 31st at 1:07PM EST (link)They must have taught John Kerry this at Yale, in Skull and Bones:
Whoever the next Republican opponent picks as their Vice-Presidential nominee, they’re obviously Dick Cheney.
It’s so clear once you understand the logic:
1) Sarah Palin? Obviously just like Dick Cheney, right down to the shoes.
2) Tim Pawlenty? Why, my dear boy, he’s gotta be Dick Cheney.
3) Mitt Romney? Once again, the former Massachusetts governor surprises us by being — Dick Cheney.
4) Bullwinkle the moose? Cheney, with antlers!
At least he didn’t compare her to John Edwards.
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Paul Seale (Diary) Sunday, August 31st at 1:09PM EST (link)They both know how to use a gun and hunt. Unlike some people.
He probably saw the photo of Sarah with the
janis (Diary) Sunday, August 31st at 1:13PM EST (link)gun and made the association–and it probably gave him nightmares, too. What kind of fantasyland does he live in? The kind where he had the audacity to hope that the electorate would actually give him the job of POTUS. With the scandal that is John Edwards, Kerry’s run for the presidency descends even further into parody.
I cannot believe
Sundayjack (Diary) Sunday, August 31st at 1:24PM EST (link)that the Obama Campaign didn’t roll out every single female surrogate possible. Hell, even Susan Estrich would have been nice. And, that Hillary wasn’t on any of the Sunday talkers might just end all debate on whether or not her hearts in this campaign.
It can’t be understated, Barack has a woman problem and a message problem. And who does he send out on the Sunday talkers? John Kerry and Chris Dodd. A couple of good ol’ boys sent out to talk about the Palin nomination and to spread the word of “change.” This is a joke, right?
“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies.”
They didn't bring out the female surrogates
Vegas_Rick (Diary) Sunday, August 31st at 2:07PM EST (link)because that was not the intent of the nomination, nor was it the demographic that responded so positively to the nomination.
“God is great, beer is good and people are crazy.”- Billy Currington
“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan ‘press on’ has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.” Calvin Coolidge.
Hey, It's their funeral!
Dukeboy01 (Diary) Sunday, August 31st at 2:25PM EST (link)You would think so, but the Dems do really appear to be that stupid. Yeah, yeah it’s all identity politics foolishness, but it’s OBAMA’S base that gives a rip about those kind of things. Once again, the wild- eyed feminist hordes who would notice the ratio of men to women appearing on mostly unwatched Sunday talk shows have something else to be angry over.
Feaking. Awesome. Pass the popcorn.
Government is evil.
It’s a necessary evil, but it is an evil. Any application of government should be done in a somber fashion, as it is a failure of our humanity that we couldn’t handle it as individual citizens. Deciding whether to apply government to solve a problem should be considered on the same level as burning down an orphanage full of children to solve a problem. Deciding to tax should be thought of like deciding to stab an innocent man for our own gain. Anyone who celebrates government is a ghoulish wretch who must be ostracized from polite society.
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It is going to be a fun two months watching these...
JadedByPolitics (Diary) Sunday, August 31st at 2:28PM EST (link)pathetic old liberal men go after the fresh and dynamic conservative woman….I really cannot thank John McCain enough for making the best pick evah….the mental gymnastics being played on tv and in print since this pick has been worth every taking head on the right who is unhappy with the choice
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JadedByPolitics (Diary) Sunday, August 31st at 2:28PM EST (link)pathetic old liberal men go after the fresh and dynamic conservative woman….I really cannot thank John McCain enough for making the best pick evah….the mental gymnastics being played on tv and in print since this pick has been worth every talking head on the right who is unhappy with the choice
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What I laugh at -
loosegoose2287 Sunday, August 31st at 2:53PM EST (link)I don’t recall them canvassing Delaware or Scranton asking people if they thought Biden should be VP or if he were qualified for the office. I guarantee you they would have found people to say that, but then again that wouldn’t have fit their agenda that Biden was a “very qualified, safe pick”.
Meet the Press
Kevin Forrester (Diary) Sunday, August 31st at 3:13PM EST (link)“Meet the Press” does not yet meet the MSNBC standard, but is moving in that direction. We may soon be saying: “If it’s Sunday, it was ‘Meet the Press.’”
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In Dover, most probably know who Biden
Mark Kilmer (Diary) Sunday, August 31st at 3:14PM EST (link)is. In Scranton, not so much. I doubt he even has ties to the city his family fled when he was 10.
This is diabolical of McCain
peg_c (Diary) Sunday, August 31st at 3:36PM EST (link)I don’t usually read through these but this was truly hilarious. The Dems are absolutely caught with their pants down. Hysteria is not attractive in men. And what is with Brokaw? Unskilled, unprepared, and nasty. Even if some valid points were raised, the way they were handled and the overall tone of old, liberal men taking gratuitous shots at a talented younger female conservative are striking. It’s like McCain designed this trap specifically to tease out the true, loathesome characters in these Dems for all to see. Yet Palin is so much more than a foil to drive Dems insane.
This will be a fun (and infuriating) 2 months.
Government cannot be the solution when government is the problem.
If you enjoyed this one, peg,
Mark Kilmer (Diary) Sunday, August 31st at 6:37PM EST (link)why not read the review every week?
And it was quite a contrast between Brokaw’s winging-it style this morning, unprepared, and what Tim Russert brought to the show every week. Sue, Russert would at times frustrate me, but at least he had full control of his mental faculties and of the show.
Unleashing the mysogyny of the left
DaMav Monday, September 1st at 2:53AM EST (link)One of the benefits of having a brainy, independent, accomplished candidate like Palin, who happens to be a woman, is that the pent up mysogyny of the left will be unleashed in a torrent of anger and slime such as we have never before seen.
On KOS and Sullivan we have these wild theories being bandied about directed at Palin’s children, and whether or not she or her teen daughter looked suitably pregnant. While that level of detritus has not yet made it into the Big Liberal Media, we can see it rippling up. Colmes accuses Palin of being irresponsible with a pregnancy that they would have advised her to abort.
And you document Brokaw, a major media figure, vetting a Vice President by airing the opinion of her mother in law. Has any (male) candidate in history ever had a major newscaster asking their mother in law about her opinion on the fitness of their candidacy? I doubt it. And apparently taking himself seriously in doing it.
Palin may well provoke the mother of all backlashes in American politics. Meanwhile, it sounds like the Republicans carried the day.
And I loved your opener: “They don’t know what hit them.” Clearly on target.
Disgusting and Belligerent
Damiano Monday, September 1st at 4:11AM EST (link)The Democrats new found obsession with experience in regard to Palin was predictable, as it the party’s and media’s continued refusal to confront the same issue with Obama. American Idol is a more critical and insightful production than what as occurred during this campaign.
Kerry is as belligerent as ever. I am only disappointed that the media has, as of yet, failed to ask him how many houses he has.
What I found astounding was Chris Dodds absolutely disgusting remarks on Hurricane Gustov, his repeated attempts to politicize natural disasters and his unyielding insistence to tie McCain to Bush.
“Well, I think this clearly, and John was critical of the Bush administration, but there’s a concern about whether or not this administration, the Bush administration, one whose policies he has endorsed, will handle this appropriately.”
Way to go there Dodd. Contradict yourself in a single sentence!
I would have thought that with recent exposure of his fellow Senetors laughing that another natural disaster will conveniently disrupt the RNC and Michael Moore praying for (then quickly covering up) similar sentiments, the Democrats would have been more discreet than to expose air their true thoughts further on national TV. People have said, “George Bush hates black people” in the aftermath of Katrina, but the Democrats have made no illusions about the fact that they only love to use black people and victims of tragedies as political pawns.
For all exploitation of the pending hurricane and Katrina’s victims, they seem to singularly ignore how “President’ Obama seems to have channeled the post-Katrina George Bush while McCain has maintained his sharp contrast with both Bush and the idiocy of Obama. Townhall put it better than I could, so here you go:
http://townhall.com/blog/g/c2d5dcf3-a680-4b0b-a947-15224af446ce
Well done, Mark. As always.
c17wife (Diary) Monday, September 1st at 4:30AM EST (link)Three money quotes here-
The first by John McCain re: Sarah Palin-
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The second from Rudy Guiliani-
And lastly, from my favorite Fred!
Instead of being filled with dread over this election, I’m cautiously optimistic for now.
Duty is ours, outcomes belong to God.~Mike Pence
I like how this is playing out
Mark Kilmer (Diary) Monday, September 1st at 8:28AM EST (link)so far. Their only argument against Palin is her experience, and if they use, it bites them.
Their second line of attack is to try to pain this woman as an extremist, and it just doesn’t work. The media and the Dems end up looking foolish, like with Kerry equating Palin and Dick Cheney, or Vandehei/Harris struggling through that sloppy piece of propaganda over at Politico.com.
The opposition to her here
Achance (Diary) Monday, September 1st at 8:54AM EST (link)is the usual assortment of Lefties, yeah, we have them too, and the economic right side of the Republican Party.
No need to address the Lefties, ours are the same as yours except most of ours embrace the 2nd Am. for political self-preservation.
There are very legitimate disputes here about how she has handled both oil taxation and the gasline deal. Most of it is pretty esoteric stuff that is interesting and conprehensible only if you live in an oil province. Some of what should have been more thoroughly examined was lost in personal animosity between Governor Palin and some R Leadership who have been very, very cozy with the Industry. I’m not saying that they’re corruptly cozy, nobody in leadership currently has been indicted, but they generally will do the Industry’s bidding. The Industry has been very much opposed to the new taxation scheme and to the TransCanada gas line deal. Some aspects of both should have been much more thoroughly debated, but all you had to do was say the opposition to the Administration’s plan was in thrall to the Industry and, for most, debate ended.
Veco was clearly acting as the proxy for the Industry. Three Alaska legislators are in jail and two more await trial from their dealings with Veco. Sen. Stevens has been indicted over his dealings with Veco. Most everyone on the R side and quite a few on the D, e.g, Knowles, has taken money from Veco and the Industry, including Palin. These days most Alaska politicians RUN from association with the Industry. Exxon’s lobbyist is a pretty good friend of mine and he and I used to carouse the Downtown political watering holes together a lot. These days, he’s a pretty lonely guy and the last time we got together to “solve the World’s problems,” it was in a place mostly frequented by miners and bikers out in the Mendenhall Valley and far from prying eyes.
In Vino Veritas
Sarah Palin is the next Dick Cheney.
NightTwister (Diary) Monday, September 1st at 9:06AM EST (link)I really like the sound of that.
And if it’s true, does that mean Joe Biden is the next Al Gore? Personally, I don’t think he’s even that good.
The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. – Winston Churchill