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		<title>By: LawSchoolRed</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/mark_i/2009/01/23/six-years-ago-today/#comment-337</link>
		<dc:creator>LawSchoolRed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 22:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: LawSchoolRed</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/mark_i/2009/01/23/six-years-ago-today/#comment-336</link>
		<dc:creator>LawSchoolRed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 22:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not sure thats the best argument.  If these were common criminals and we thought they beheaded someone i.e. gang members, they would be afforded Habeus rights.  If they were soldiers and they were captured on the battlefield, they would *possibly* be subject to coercive measures not including torture (i.e. waterboarding if you assume its not torture), but most would be chocked if we did that soldiers in a conventional war.  

However, just because they are neither criminals nor soldiers but somewhere in between, does not necessarily mean that the shouldn&#039;t be afforded rights we afford to either.  

They may be &#039;enemy combatants&#039; but thats not discussed in the intitial posting. What should be referenced in this is that under the One&#039;s legal theories, there is no such thing as enemy combatants, there are either criminals are soldiers and they are afforded those rights respectively.  The real argument is whether or not such categorizations are legitimate under our laws and constitution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure thats the best argument.  If these were common criminals and we thought they beheaded someone i.e. gang members, they would be afforded Habeus rights.  If they were soldiers and they were captured on the battlefield, they would *possibly* be subject to coercive measures not including torture (i.e. waterboarding if you assume its not torture), but most would be chocked if we did that soldiers in a conventional war.  </p>
<p>However, just because they are neither criminals nor soldiers but somewhere in between, does not necessarily mean that the shouldn&#8217;t be afforded rights we afford to either.  </p>
<p>They may be &#8216;enemy combatants&#8217; but thats not discussed in the intitial posting. What should be referenced in this is that under the One&#8217;s legal theories, there is no such thing as enemy combatants, there are either criminals are soldiers and they are afforded those rights respectively.  The real argument is whether or not such categorizations are legitimate under our laws and constitution.</p>
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		<title>By: scottbomb</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/mark_i/2009/01/23/six-years-ago-today/#comment-335</link>
		<dc:creator>scottbomb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 22:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is at the heart of the matter. Suppose some of those prisoners are set free on a technicality or some other reason. Are they then free to stay in the US? Obama may be getting in over his head here. Of course that&#039;s nothing new.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is at the heart of the matter. Suppose some of those prisoners are set free on a technicality or some other reason. Are they then free to stay in the US? Obama may be getting in over his head here. Of course that&#8217;s nothing new.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Gardner</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/mark_i/2009/01/23/six-years-ago-today/#comment-334</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 22:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: izoneguy</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/mark_i/2009/01/23/six-years-ago-today/#comment-333</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 22:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My sentiment also.
I was thinking more like Arby&#039;s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My sentiment also.<br />
I was thinking more like Arby&#8217;s</p>
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		<title>By: JSobieski</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/mark_i/2009/01/23/six-years-ago-today/#comment-332</link>
		<dc:creator>JSobieski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 22:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you have any idea how many prisoners of war we held during WWII?

Do you have any idea how many trials were conducted before the end of the war?

Basically, you want to adopt a policy that makes victory in war . . . impossible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you have any idea how many prisoners of war we held during WWII?</p>
<p>Do you have any idea how many trials were conducted before the end of the war?</p>
<p>Basically, you want to adopt a policy that makes victory in war . . . impossible.</p>
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		<title>By: izoneguy</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 22:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and will go down as the worst evah!!!

Obama is just the opposite man. Anything Bush did that was good is reversed by the ONE with a swipe of a pen. 4 years from now we should slam the door shut on the dems for good. No more reaching across the aisle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and will go down as the worst evah!!!</p>
<p>Obama is just the opposite man. Anything Bush did that was good is reversed by the ONE with a swipe of a pen. 4 years from now we should slam the door shut on the dems for good. No more reaching across the aisle.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Gardner</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/mark_i/2009/01/23/six-years-ago-today/#comment-330</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 22:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These guys made a video of themselves cutting the head off of a man and played it on the internet, if we were able to get a positive id on them and found their location, I would personally board a C-130 with my -10 and jump in in the middle of the night and take my silenced 9 mm to the back of each of their heads and gently pull the trigger...and I would have not one doubt about it being the right thing to do...no jury, no evidence, no witnesses...just the calming crack of my gun and a yellow glow surrounded by a  brief moment of pink mist....then I would walk away while eating a bologna sandwich.

That is how I feel about this and I hope it makes you have bad dreams at night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These guys made a video of themselves cutting the head off of a man and played it on the internet, if we were able to get a positive id on them and found their location, I would personally board a C-130 with my -10 and jump in in the middle of the night and take my silenced 9 mm to the back of each of their heads and gently pull the trigger&#8230;and I would have not one doubt about it being the right thing to do&#8230;no jury, no evidence, no witnesses&#8230;just the calming crack of my gun and a yellow glow surrounded by a  brief moment of pink mist&#8230;.then I would walk away while eating a bologna sandwich.</p>
<p>That is how I feel about this and I hope it makes you have bad dreams at night.</p>
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		<title>By: mbecker908</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 22:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about anybody who can be associated with a terrorist group - aQ, Hamas, Hezbollah for starters - should be considered to be an &quot;enemy of the United States&quot; and should be killed outright by any means possible.  Oh, and to clarify, that would include those people who provide &quot;aid and comfort&quot; in terms of money and assistance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about anybody who can be associated with a terrorist group &#8211; aQ, Hamas, Hezbollah for starters &#8211; should be considered to be an &#8220;enemy of the United States&#8221; and should be killed outright by any means possible.  Oh, and to clarify, that would include those people who provide &#8220;aid and comfort&#8221; in terms of money and assistance.</p>
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		<title>By: HappyBunny</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/mark_i/2009/01/23/six-years-ago-today/#comment-328</link>
		<dc:creator>HappyBunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 22:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;img src=&quot;http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/HPM/BM1154~It-Worries-Me-Posters.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot;&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: redneck_hippie</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/mark_i/2009/01/23/six-years-ago-today/#comment-327</link>
		<dc:creator>redneck_hippie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 21:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>executive order made me think of the horrible murder of Daniel Pearl.

I had not realized about the anniversary and its being 6 yrs. ago. 

Here&#039;s hoping that 20 years from now the Obama administration is forgotten about except as a novelty Presidency and that no long-term consequences remain from his dunderheaded policies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>executive order made me think of the horrible murder of Daniel Pearl.</p>
<p>I had not realized about the anniversary and its being 6 yrs. ago. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s hoping that 20 years from now the Obama administration is forgotten about except as a novelty Presidency and that no long-term consequences remain from his dunderheaded policies.</p>
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		<title>By: agold</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/mark_i/2009/01/23/six-years-ago-today/#comment-326</link>
		<dc:creator>agold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 21:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[Odd, that. - Moe Lane]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[Odd, that. - Moe Lane]</p>
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		<title>By: Moe Lane</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/mark_i/2009/01/23/six-years-ago-today/#comment-325</link>
		<dc:creator>Moe Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 21:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That makes all right for you people.

Blam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That makes all right for you people.</p>
<p>Blam.</p>
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		<title>By: agold</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/mark_i/2009/01/23/six-years-ago-today/#comment-324</link>
		<dc:creator>agold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 21:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in the court of law &#039;giving up?&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in the court of law &#8216;giving up?&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Moe Lane</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/mark_i/2009/01/23/six-years-ago-today/#comment-323</link>
		<dc:creator>Moe Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 21:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NT</p>
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		<title>By: agold</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/mark_i/2009/01/23/six-years-ago-today/#comment-322</link>
		<dc:creator>agold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 21:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I mean, what if authorities showed up on your doorstep, accused you of a crime you didn&#039;t commit, and then you were locked up for years without any sort of trial?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mean, what if authorities showed up on your doorstep, accused you of a crime you didn&#8217;t commit, and then you were locked up for years without any sort of trial?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Emanuel</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/mark_i/2009/01/23/six-years-ago-today/#comment-321</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Emanuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 21:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...just give up altogether and let them go?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;just give up altogether and let them go?</p>
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		<title>By: agold</title>
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		<dc:creator>agold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 21:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I remember correctly, the men who beheaded this man were cowards, who wore masks and concealed their identity. So you&#039;re saying that if we caught the men we *thought* were the perpetrators, they shouldn&#039;t be allowed a fair trial in the court of law? What if we were wrong? What if we had the wrong guys? They should be subjected to torture anyways? Locked up for two years with no trial, and then given a mocked up, BS tribunal? 

I don&#039;t know guys, what&#039;s the issue here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I remember correctly, the men who beheaded this man were cowards, who wore masks and concealed their identity. So you&#8217;re saying that if we caught the men we *thought* were the perpetrators, they shouldn&#8217;t be allowed a fair trial in the court of law? What if we were wrong? What if we had the wrong guys? They should be subjected to torture anyways? Locked up for two years with no trial, and then given a mocked up, BS tribunal? </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know guys, what&#8217;s the issue here?</p>
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