The Volokh Conspiracy relays the legal analysis of one Professor Ken Katkin, who wonders in print who was president betwen the time President Bush’s term expired at noon on Tuesday, and President Obama took the oath of office late at 12:04. Its a thought experiment more than anything, but its a fun one.
(1) The 20th Amendment provides that “[t]he terms of the President and Vice President shall end at noon on the 20th day of January….”
(2) Art II., Sec. 1 Cl. 8 provides that “[b]efore he enter on the Execution of his Office, [The President] shall take the following oath….”
(3) President Obama did not take the Oath of Office until about 12:03 pm today, after Vice President Biden took it at about 12:01 p.m. (Yo Yo Ma and Itzhak Perlman were still fiddling at noon).
(4) Therefore, there was a brief window (just after noon) when George Bush and Dick Cheney were no longer President and Vice President, but Barack Obama and Joe Biden also were not yet qualified to enter on the Execution of their offices.
With me? Now for the fun part.
Katkin goes on to explain that the Presidential Succession Act states that when the president and vice-president are no longer qualified to hold their offices, as President Bush and Vice President Cheney were not, first the Speaker of the House and then the President Pro Tempore of the Senate shall assume the presidency, “upon his resignation.” But since neither Nancy Pelosi nor Robert Byrd had resigned Congress, neither could become president.
So…
(7) Section 19(d)(1) of the Presidential Succession Act provides: “If, by reason of … failure to qualify, there is no President pro tempore to act as President under subsection (b) of this section, then the officer of the United States who is highest on the following list, and who is not under disability to discharge the powers and duties of the office of President shall act as President: Secretary of State ….”
(8) Notably, Section 19(d)(1) does not condition the Secretary of State’s assumption of the powers and duties of the office of President on resignation of her current office, nor does elevation of the Secretary of State raise any constitutional issue of interbranch appointment.
(9) The term of office of the Secretary of State does not automatically terminate at noon on the 20th day of January.
(10) On January 20, 2009, Condoleeza Rice was (and is) still the Secretary of State.
(11) Accordingly, from 12:00 noon until 12:01 p.m. (when Vice President Biden took the oath of office and became Vice President), Condoleeza Rice was momentarily the Acting President of the United States, our first African-American President.
Congratulations, Condoleezza Rice, our first African-American (Acting) President, and first female president too! Which, of course, makes President Barack Obama our second black President.
But hey, Barack, don’t get all down about it. You’re still the first socialist president. Good luck with that.
Steve Maley
KnightsofMalta
Classic. Absolutely classic.
Bill S (Diary) Wednesday, January 21st at 9:35PM EST (link)I love it. This must be shouted from the rooftops.
“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins
Oh the rich irony!
Praying (Diary) Wednesday, January 21st at 9:37PM EST (link)n/t
No!!!11!1!!1!1! The Bilderbergers are coming
Market identified, product identified....... Ready, Set, Go !
Kenny Solomon (Diary) Wednesday, January 21st at 9:47PM EST (link)I’ll make the t-shirts…
Front will be a very dignified photo of President Rice with the official seal and on the back will be the same photo set but smaller and a bordered printing of the text proof.
There’s a market need for a product, along with someone willing to make the investment and fill the void.
See…….. Capitalism works !
Git-R-Done !
Pres 43.99 (nt)
JLenardDetroit (Diary) Thursday, January 22nd at 12:01AM EST (link)Regards from NoMoTown (the MOTORlessCITY)
“Liberals, looking to do for? America what they’ve done for? Detroit! which is DESTROY IT!”
“I think, therefore I am Conservative”
“Conservative by choice, Republican by necessity”
“You can lead a Liberal to the Truth/Facts, but you cannot make them THINK!”
“Romney [No, not my first choice] does NOT have a MORMON problem. He has a, far too many Americans; these days; are MORONS problem!”
Follow @JLenardDetroit
(RS:Help) (JLD) (Hollyweird) (Brain-deads) (SPIN-cycle) (Obamaocare) (Party of kNOw) (Conservatism) (TEApeats) (respectful) (message) (Warning: Children Will Die!!)
Heil “O” Hell No Obamao is NOT MY PRESIDENT! “No U won’t”
I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
“The first Liberal was Satan” – a Rush caller (other Quotes)
Good stuff...
liberalrepublican (Diary) Wednesday, January 21st at 9:48PM EST (link)Made me smile.
“Broadly speaking, liberalism emphasizes individual rights and equality of opportunity. … including extensive freedom of thought and speech, limitations on the power of governments, the rule of law, the free exchange of ideas, a market or mixed economy”
Good work
LoneStarLizard (Diary) Wednesday, January 21st at 9:49PM EST (link)haha you really put some time and thought into this. good job!
http://www.lonestarlizard.com/
Don't ya just love this kind of 'stuff'??
USNJIMRET (Diary) Wednesday, January 21st at 9:55PM EST (link)Although I wonder….
If the Speaker of the House and the Senate Pro Tempore have to resign their posts, wouldn’t the Secretary of State also have to resign?
Still, even if only technically, Congrats to Former Acting President Rice!!
Different branches
GregInFla (Diary) Thursday, January 22nd at 11:07PM EST (link)Likely the SecState does not have to resign: she is in the executive branch. Having a POTUS in the Legislative Branch would be a conflict.
– A true evolutionist would let endangered species die off. Think about it.
– The sign outside the courthouse said no signs allowed. So I took it down.
– Atlas Shrugged is now on the non-fiction aisle at Amazon.
Too Funny
Mike Friesen (Diary) Wednesday, January 21st at 9:55PM EST (link)Enjoyed the comic relief. Thanks, Mark.
Best regards,
Michael
Someone has toooo much time on their hands
olsmithie (Diary) Wednesday, January 21st at 9:56PM EST (link)but, I like it!
Regards
except
I am a moral coward who will only criticize Republicans. Wednesday, January 21st at 9:59PM EST (link)if Professor Katkin was watching the same ceremony I watched with my classmates, he would have noticed Biden took the oath at 11:58 a.m., then players fiddled for 4.5 minutes, and Obama was sworn in around 12:04 p.m.
There is an update to that effect on the Volokh post. -nt-
Brian Simpson (Diary) Wednesday, January 21st at 10:36PM EST (link)| My RedState archive |
Important principles may and must be inflexible. ~ Abraham Lincoln
Are you sure?
zachv (Diary) Wednesday, January 21st at 10:13PM EST (link)Sorry to burst your bubble, but what happened to Rep. Pelosi and Sen. Byrd? Have they not been elected as Speaker and Pro-Temp of the 111th yet?
As the OP states, they never resigned their office. -nt-
Brian Simpson (Diary) Wednesday, January 21st at 10:24PM EST (link)| My RedState archive |
Important principles may and must be inflexible. ~ Abraham Lincoln
Thats just great!!
phxg (Diary) Wednesday, January 21st at 10:14PM EST (link)nt
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. –Aristotle
Rice was President until 7:35 pm today - LINK
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Wednesday, January 21st at 10:30PM EST (link)http://www.redstate.com/gamecock/2009/01/21/cockstradamus-vindicated-in-post-oath-declaration-of-a-president-less-america/
Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson
Minor quibble...
rbdwiggins (Diary) Wednesday, January 21st at 10:48PM EST (link)FDR was the first socialist president. It seems that President Obama is relegated to second-fiddle once again.
“Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn’t so.” – Ronald Reagan
a minor quibble with your minor quibble
pilgrim (Diary) Wednesday, January 21st at 11:16PM EST (link)If you read Jonah’s Liberal Fascism you will discover the introduction of some socialism to America by Woodrow Wilson. FDR just regurgitated and expanded some of Wilson’s ideas.
May be a matter semantics...
rbdwiggins (Diary) Thursday, January 22nd at 12:08AM EST (link)but I see Wilson as more of a fascist than socialist. The Committee on Public Information and the Sedition Act come to mind.
“Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn’t so.” – Ronald Reagan
I thought the book pretty well made the case
The_Gadfly (Diary) Thursday, January 22nd at 12:55PM EST (link)that attempting to differentiate Socialism, Fascism, Marxism, and the rest of the totalitarian regimes that spring from Marx’s work was pretty much like arguing about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. All of them focus on empowering a totalitarian regime to dictate how everyone else should live, and their minor quibbles with each other are less important that than the major distinction from a society founded in liberty. I also thought he made the case that Progressivism falls into the same category, they’ve just managed to engage in sufficient verbal jujitsu so that they aren’t recognized as the scourge on mankind that they actually are.
Don't forget Johnson
scottbomb (Diary) Thursday, January 22nd at 12:20AM EST (link)I’d say he was even more socialist than FDR.
www.HowObamaGotElected.com
“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of ‘liberalism’, they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.” – Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948
No she wasn't
baseketball (Diary) Wednesday, January 21st at 11:32PM EST (link)If Obama isn’t President at 12:01 because he wasn’t sworn in yet, isn’t Rice also not President at 12:01 because she wasn’t sworn in yet? Isn’t the entire premise of your argument that you have to have been sworn in to be President?
good question. although...
Jewels Wednesday, January 21st at 11:56PM EST (link)I’m not sure it matters.
If a legal beagle could look at this and explain it, I’d be very amused to hear their opinion. ;o)
Does this mean Biden was acting POTUS for 3 min.?
scottbomb (Diary) Wednesday, January 21st at 11:45PM EST (link)From 12:01 to 12:04?
“(11) Accordingly, from 12:00 noon until 12:01 p.m. (when Vice President Biden took the oath of office…..”
I take a moment to pray that is the ONLY time he’s ever president.
www.HowObamaGotElected.com
“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of ‘liberalism’, they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.” – Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948
Oath of Office part duex
JLenardDetroit (Diary) Thursday, January 22nd at 12:25AM EST (link)Bible wasn’t present reported here code for a Qur’an used instead….. lol….. let the rumors begin again anew
Regards from NoMoTown (the MOTORlessCITY)
“Liberals, looking to do for? America what they’ve done for? Detroit! which is DESTROY IT!”
“I think, therefore I am Conservative”
“Conservative by choice, Republican by necessity”
“You can lead a Liberal to the Truth/Facts, but you cannot make them THINK!”
“Romney [No, not my first choice] does NOT have a MORMON problem. He has a, far too many Americans; these days; are MORONS problem!”
Follow @JLenardDetroit
(RS:Help) (JLD) (Hollyweird) (Brain-deads) (SPIN-cycle) (Obamaocare) (Party of kNOw) (Conservatism) (TEApeats) (respectful) (message) (Warning: Children Will Die!!)
Heil “O” Hell No Obamao is NOT MY PRESIDENT! “No U won’t”
I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
“The first Liberal was Satan” – a Rush caller (other Quotes)
If a (mythical) conservative Hollywood made the film
Andy W. Thursday, January 22nd at 8:16AM EST (link)The Lincoln Bible would have started sizzling and steaming upon the O’s touch.
Wouldn’t that have set the press a spinning if it really happened.
I’m sorry that book was desecrated in such a way in reality though.
Keep up the good work Sam Graves (R, MO-6)
Wow.... CONDI RICE IS THE FIRST BLACK OR WOMAN POTUS!
Rod_Patrick (Diary) Thursday, January 22nd at 8:29AM EST (link)Even in 3 minutes.
You know, it would have been even more amusing
The_Gadfly (Diary) Thursday, January 22nd at 12:58PM EST (link)if Bush and Cheney, having realized this, had simultaneously submitted their resignations on January 19…..
I suppose its best for the country that they don’t have quite the same sadistic streak I do.
My plan for Bush's last year
GregInFla (Diary) Thursday, January 22nd at 11:17PM EST (link)was for Cheney to step down at start of 2008; with Rice taking the VP slot. She’d get approved no problem. Then W would resign, making Rice the official POTUS. (Just like how Ford became POTUS)
Game Set Match. First African-American Woman President.
The Hillabama mystique is nullified by August 2008.
– A true evolutionist would let endangered species die off. Think about it.
– The sign outside the courthouse said no signs allowed. So I took it down.
– Atlas Shrugged is now on the non-fiction aisle at Amazon.