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		<title>By: rbdwiggins</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/mark_i/2009/01/08/time-for-gop-to-get-out-of-the-way/#comment-230</link>
		<dc:creator>rbdwiggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 04:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly, the size and scope of the federal government will continue to grow until control is wrested from government schools, and the rehabilitation of our public schools is well underway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly, the size and scope of the federal government will continue to grow until control is wrested from government schools, and the rehabilitation of our public schools is well underway.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/mark_i/2009/01/08/time-for-gop-to-get-out-of-the-way/#comment-229</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 03:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...let&#039;s take a reducio ad absurdem. I am able to convince the Congress to lower all taxes to zero while maintaining the same level of government spending. The governement, in an effort to cover the extremely large $3 trillion deficit, borrows as much money as possible, raising the national debt. When that fails, the Federal Reserve prints new money to cover the shortfalls. In this scenario, does not the taxpayer carry a burden through a) the debt liability that will need to be repaid and b) the diminished purchasing power of the dollar due to inflation of the money supply? Are we not paying a price and losing wealth even though it is not being confiscated through taxation?

I am just saying that &quot;tax cuts pay for themselves&quot; is predicated upon a growing economy. But the shortfall can be more quickly closed by the contraction of government spending. Should not we as conservatives be just as focused on contracting the size and scope of government? I&#039;m just saying we cannot forget about that side of the equation, as the GOP has done for the last 8 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;let&#8217;s take a reducio ad absurdem. I am able to convince the Congress to lower all taxes to zero while maintaining the same level of government spending. The governement, in an effort to cover the extremely large $3 trillion deficit, borrows as much money as possible, raising the national debt. When that fails, the Federal Reserve prints new money to cover the shortfalls. In this scenario, does not the taxpayer carry a burden through a) the debt liability that will need to be repaid and b) the diminished purchasing power of the dollar due to inflation of the money supply? Are we not paying a price and losing wealth even though it is not being confiscated through taxation?</p>
<p>I am just saying that &#8220;tax cuts pay for themselves&#8221; is predicated upon a growing economy. But the shortfall can be more quickly closed by the contraction of government spending. Should not we as conservatives be just as focused on contracting the size and scope of government? I&#8217;m just saying we cannot forget about that side of the equation, as the GOP has done for the last 8 years.</p>
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		<title>By: rbdwiggins</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/mark_i/2009/01/08/time-for-gop-to-get-out-of-the-way/#comment-228</link>
		<dc:creator>rbdwiggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 01:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bailout &lt;u&gt;was&lt;/u&gt; a classic case of government interference in the free market. Although, government certainly caused a significant part of the problem facing the domestic automakers.

The current financial crisis was not caused by our free-market economy. It is the direct result of failed government policy. The government had no choice but to attempt to stabilize our banking system, because our free-market economy relies on the liquidity and transparency of our banking system. That said, I certainly differ with the path chosen by the Bush Administration. 

Tax cuts pay for themselves. They do not have to be &quot;paid for.&quot; It&#039;s that simple.

Budget deficits are the result of deficit spending. They can occur regardless of, and independent from, the tax rate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bailout <u>was</u> a classic case of government interference in the free market. Although, government certainly caused a significant part of the problem facing the domestic automakers.</p>
<p>The current financial crisis was not caused by our free-market economy. It is the direct result of failed government policy. The government had no choice but to attempt to stabilize our banking system, because our free-market economy relies on the liquidity and transparency of our banking system. That said, I certainly differ with the path chosen by the Bush Administration. </p>
<p>Tax cuts pay for themselves. They do not have to be &#8220;paid for.&#8221; It&#8217;s that simple.</p>
<p>Budget deficits are the result of deficit spending. They can occur regardless of, and independent from, the tax rate.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 01:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with everything you said about the Democrats and their slavish devotion to providing loans to people who could not afford it. But that does not absolve the Bush administration of completely abandoning free market economics in order to save free market economics, whatever that means. The Bush administration chose the politically expedient and/or the wrongheaded Keynesian view of economics instead of fearlessly defending the private sector and economic liberty.

Borrowed tax relief is simply providing tax cuts without accompanying cuts in spending. In small amounts this is manageable (though bad policy). On the level that the government is spending these days with budget deficits approaching $1 trillion, the call needs to be for both massive tax AND spending cuts.

Take the concept of providing tax cuts while maintaining or increasing government spending to the extreme, and you have a governement entirely financed by borrowed money or printed money. Either way this will come back to bite the American taxpayers in the end when the &quot;credit card bills&quot; come due and their wealth is diminished through inflation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with everything you said about the Democrats and their slavish devotion to providing loans to people who could not afford it. But that does not absolve the Bush administration of completely abandoning free market economics in order to save free market economics, whatever that means. The Bush administration chose the politically expedient and/or the wrongheaded Keynesian view of economics instead of fearlessly defending the private sector and economic liberty.</p>
<p>Borrowed tax relief is simply providing tax cuts without accompanying cuts in spending. In small amounts this is manageable (though bad policy). On the level that the government is spending these days with budget deficits approaching $1 trillion, the call needs to be for both massive tax AND spending cuts.</p>
<p>Take the concept of providing tax cuts while maintaining or increasing government spending to the extreme, and you have a governement entirely financed by borrowed money or printed money. Either way this will come back to bite the American taxpayers in the end when the &#8220;credit card bills&#8221; come due and their wealth is diminished through inflation.</p>
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		<title>By: rbdwiggins</title>
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		<dc:creator>rbdwiggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 20:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rbdwiggins</title>
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		<dc:creator>rbdwiggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 20:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;
Had the Democrats and their allies not blocked &lt;em&gt;&lt;u&gt;all&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/em&gt; of the Bush Administration&#039;s attempts to reform Freddie and Fannie, but allowed the reform measures to be enacted in a timely manner, we would not be in the middle of the current financial crisis and TARP would not exist.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&quot;While I favor improving oversight by our federal housing regulators to ensure safety and soundness, we cannot pass legislation that could limit Americans from owning homes and potentially harm our economy in the process.&quot; - Minority Leader Harry Reid, &lt;em&gt;United Press International&lt;/em&gt;, (7/28/05)
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2008/10/print/20081009-10.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Six Years of Unheeded Warnings for GSE Reform&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
These are just the calls for reform and measures requested by the Bush Administration in 2008:
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;b&gt;February&lt;/b&gt;: Assistant Treasury Secretary David Nason reiterates the urgency of reforms, saying &quot;A new regulatory structure for the housing GSEs is essential if these entities are to continue to perform their public mission successfully.&quot;  (David Nason, Testimony On Reforming GSE Regulation, Senate Committee On Banking, Housing And Urban Affairs, 2/7/08) 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;b&gt;March&lt;/b&gt;: President Bush calls on Congress to take action and &quot;move forward with reforms on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.  They need to continue to modernize the FHA, as well as allow State housing agencies to issue tax-free bonds to homeowners to refinance their mortgages.&quot;  (President George W. Bush, Remarks To The Economic Club Of New York, New York, NY, 3/14/08) 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;b&gt;April&lt;/b&gt;: President Bush urges Congress to pass the much needed legislation and &quot;modernize Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.  [There are] constructive things Congress can do that will encourage the housing market to correct quickly by … helping people stay in their homes.&quot;  (President George W. Bush, Meeting With Cabinet, the White House, 4/14/08) 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;b&gt;May&lt;/b&gt;: President Bush issues several pleas to Congress to pass legislation reforming Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac before the situation deteriorates further.  
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&quot;Americans are concerned about making their mortgage payments and keeping their homes.  Yet Congress has failed to pass legislation I have repeatedly requested to modernize the Federal Housing Administration that will help more families stay in their homes, reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to ensure they focus on their housing mission, and allow state housing agencies to issue tax-free bonds to refinance sub-prime loans.&quot;  (President George W. Bush, Radio Address, 5/3/08) 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&quot;[T]he government ought to be helping creditworthy people stay in their homes.  And one way we can do that – and Congress is making progress on this – is the reform of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.  That reform will come with a strong, independent regulator.&quot;  (President George W. Bush, Meeting With The Secretary Of The Treasury, the White House, 5/19/08) 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&quot;Congress needs to pass legislation to modernize the Federal Housing Administration, reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to ensure they focus on their housing mission, and allow State housing agencies to issue tax-free bonds to refinance subprime loans.&quot;  (President George W. Bush, Radio Address, 5/31/08) 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;b&gt;June&lt;/b&gt;: As foreclosure rates continued to rise in the first quarter, the President once again asks Congress to take the necessary measures to address this challenge, saying &quot;we need to pass legislation to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.&quot;  (President George W. Bush, Remarks At Swearing In Ceremony For Secretary Of Housing And Urban Development, Washington, D.C., 6/6/08) 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;b&gt;July&lt;/b&gt;: Congress heeds the President&#039;s call for action and passes reform legislation for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac as it becomes clear that the institutions are failing. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;b&gt;September&lt;/b&gt;: Democrats in Congress forget their previous objections to GSE reforms, as Senator Dodd questions &quot;why weren&#039;t we doing more, why did we wait almost a year before there were any significant steps taken to try to deal with this problem? … I have a lot of questions about where was the administration over the last eight years.&quot;  (Dawn Kopecki, &quot;Fannie Mae, Freddie &#039;House Of Cards&#039; Prompts Takeover,&quot; Bloomberg, 9/9/08)
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The current financial crisis and subsequent deficit spending are the sole responsibility of the Democrat Party and their allies.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Query: What is borrowed tax relief?
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
I&#039;m under the impression that the only reason for the federal government to borrow &lt;em&gt;&lt;u&gt;money&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/em&gt; is deficit spending. Which is an entirely different issue than tax cuts.
&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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Had the Democrats and their allies not blocked <em><u>all</u></em> of the Bush Administration&#8217;s attempts to reform Freddie and Fannie, but allowed the reform measures to be enacted in a timely manner, we would not be in the middle of the current financial crisis and TARP would not exist.
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<p>
&#8220;While I favor improving oversight by our federal housing regulators to ensure safety and soundness, we cannot pass legislation that could limit Americans from owning homes and potentially harm our economy in the process.&#8221; &#8211; Minority Leader Harry Reid, <em>United Press International</em>, (7/28/05)
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<p>
<a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2008/10/print/20081009-10.html" rel="nofollow">Six Years of Unheeded Warnings for GSE Reform</a>
</p>
<p>
These are just the calls for reform and measures requested by the Bush Administration in 2008:
</p>
<blockquote>
<p>
<b>February</b>: Assistant Treasury Secretary David Nason reiterates the urgency of reforms, saying &#8220;A new regulatory structure for the housing GSEs is essential if these entities are to continue to perform their public mission successfully.&#8221;  (David Nason, Testimony On Reforming GSE Regulation, Senate Committee On Banking, Housing And Urban Affairs, 2/7/08)
</p>
<p>
<b>March</b>: President Bush calls on Congress to take action and &#8220;move forward with reforms on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.  They need to continue to modernize the FHA, as well as allow State housing agencies to issue tax-free bonds to homeowners to refinance their mortgages.&#8221;  (President George W. Bush, Remarks To The Economic Club Of New York, New York, NY, 3/14/08)
</p>
<p>
<b>April</b>: President Bush urges Congress to pass the much needed legislation and &#8220;modernize Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.  [There are] constructive things Congress can do that will encourage the housing market to correct quickly by … helping people stay in their homes.&#8221;  (President George W. Bush, Meeting With Cabinet, the White House, 4/14/08)
</p>
<p>
<b>May</b>: President Bush issues several pleas to Congress to pass legislation reforming Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac before the situation deteriorates further.
</p>
<p>
&#8220;Americans are concerned about making their mortgage payments and keeping their homes.  Yet Congress has failed to pass legislation I have repeatedly requested to modernize the Federal Housing Administration that will help more families stay in their homes, reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to ensure they focus on their housing mission, and allow state housing agencies to issue tax-free bonds to refinance sub-prime loans.&#8221;  (President George W. Bush, Radio Address, 5/3/08)
</p>
<p>
&#8220;[T]he government ought to be helping creditworthy people stay in their homes.  And one way we can do that – and Congress is making progress on this – is the reform of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.  That reform will come with a strong, independent regulator.&#8221;  (President George W. Bush, Meeting With The Secretary Of The Treasury, the White House, 5/19/08)
</p>
<p>
&#8220;Congress needs to pass legislation to modernize the Federal Housing Administration, reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to ensure they focus on their housing mission, and allow State housing agencies to issue tax-free bonds to refinance subprime loans.&#8221;  (President George W. Bush, Radio Address, 5/31/08)
</p>
<p>
<b>June</b>: As foreclosure rates continued to rise in the first quarter, the President once again asks Congress to take the necessary measures to address this challenge, saying &#8220;we need to pass legislation to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.&#8221;  (President George W. Bush, Remarks At Swearing In Ceremony For Secretary Of Housing And Urban Development, Washington, D.C., 6/6/08)
</p>
<p>
<b>July</b>: Congress heeds the President&#8217;s call for action and passes reform legislation for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac as it becomes clear that the institutions are failing.
</p>
<p>
<b>September</b>: Democrats in Congress forget their previous objections to GSE reforms, as Senator Dodd questions &#8220;why weren&#8217;t we doing more, why did we wait almost a year before there were any significant steps taken to try to deal with this problem? … I have a lot of questions about where was the administration over the last eight years.&#8221;  (Dawn Kopecki, &#8220;Fannie Mae, Freddie &#8216;House Of Cards&#8217; Prompts Takeover,&#8221; Bloomberg, 9/9/08)
</p>
</blockquote>
<p>
The current financial crisis and subsequent deficit spending are the sole responsibility of the Democrat Party and their allies.
</p>
<p>
Query: What is borrowed tax relief?
</p>
<p>
I&#8217;m under the impression that the only reason for the federal government to borrow <em><u>money</u></em> is deficit spending. Which is an entirely different issue than tax cuts.
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 05:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...the Bush administration cannot be absolved of TARP and has basically primed the pump for everything the Democrats are licking their chops at spending now. The Treasury secretary for the administration has been a disaster throughout all of this.

Republicans need to offer a paradigm shift in thinking. How much of a contrast would it be if the GOP leaders in Congress came out against any type of so-called &quot;stimulus&quot; and instead proposed massive spending cuts to balance the budget and provide real (not borrowed) tax relief. I don&#039;t think it is sufficient to just sit on the side and wait for bad things to happen in hopes the American people will come running back to the GOP. A positive, bold, radically different prescription needs to be offered to lay the groundwork for when this &quot;stimulus&quot;, like all the others before it, crashes and burns.

As Mises once said, &quot;Middle-of-the-road policy leads to socialism.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;the Bush administration cannot be absolved of TARP and has basically primed the pump for everything the Democrats are licking their chops at spending now. The Treasury secretary for the administration has been a disaster throughout all of this.</p>
<p>Republicans need to offer a paradigm shift in thinking. How much of a contrast would it be if the GOP leaders in Congress came out against any type of so-called &#8220;stimulus&#8221; and instead proposed massive spending cuts to balance the budget and provide real (not borrowed) tax relief. I don&#8217;t think it is sufficient to just sit on the side and wait for bad things to happen in hopes the American people will come running back to the GOP. A positive, bold, radically different prescription needs to be offered to lay the groundwork for when this &#8220;stimulus&#8221;, like all the others before it, crashes and burns.</p>
<p>As Mises once said, &#8220;Middle-of-the-road policy leads to socialism.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: itrytobenice</title>
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		<dc:creator>itrytobenice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 04:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know our recommended diaries doesn&#039;t work, but people on the Hill still read RS.  This diary (and its comments) should be recommended by every conservative on this site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know our recommended diaries doesn&#8217;t work, but people on the Hill still read RS.  This diary (and its comments) should be recommended by every conservative on this site.</p>
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		<title>By: cookcountyconservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>cookcountyconservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 03:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in fact I think I smell Dick Morris.</description>
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		<title>By: DerKrieger</title>
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		<dc:creator>DerKrieger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 02:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, if we Conservatives don&#039;t fight then we will become indentured servants even slaves to our fellow Americans who seem to be unable to understand what liberty is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, if we Conservatives don&#8217;t fight then we will become indentured servants even slaves to our fellow Americans who seem to be unable to understand what liberty is.</p>
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		<title>By: rbdwiggins</title>
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		<dc:creator>rbdwiggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 02:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was one of those McCain voters who could correctly identify which party controlled the 110&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt; Congress.

I have to assume from your response, that you must fall somewhere among the 57.4% of Obama voters who, according to Zogby, could NOT correctly say which party controls congress.

Hint: It&#039;s the same party that&#039;s responsible for the $1.2 Trillion budget-deficit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was one of those McCain voters who could correctly identify which party controlled the 110<sup>th</sup> Congress.</p>
<p>I have to assume from your response, that you must fall somewhere among the 57.4% of Obama voters who, according to Zogby, could NOT correctly say which party controls congress.</p>
<p>Hint: It&#8217;s the same party that&#8217;s responsible for the $1.2 Trillion budget-deficit.</p>
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		<title>By: icbm</title>
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		<dc:creator>icbm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 01:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>every day, in different words maybe, but with the same message, to make it as clear as possible to Congress that Republican voters do not want any part of a bailout / stimulus / fake tax cut.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>every day, in different words maybe, but with the same message, to make it as clear as possible to Congress that Republican voters do not want any part of a bailout / stimulus / fake tax cut.</p>
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		<title>By: OccamsRazor</title>
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		<dc:creator>OccamsRazor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 01:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: izoneguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>izoneguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 01:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I vote for civil war. We can take them out in no time...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I vote for civil war. We can take them out in no time&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kenny Solomon</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/mark_i/2009/01/08/time-for-gop-to-get-out-of-the-way/#comment-216</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenny Solomon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 01:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From Bloomberg News......

&lt;a href=&quot;//www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&amp;sid=aHNaiptix3lk&amp;refer=home#”&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Obama Uses Poll, Focus Groups to Sell Stimulus Plan to Congress &lt;/a&gt;

President-elect Barack Obama’s top political aides are transplanting their campaign tactics to the policy arena, using data from polls and focus groups to shape the debate over a stimulus plan that may cost at least $775 billion.

David Axelrod, Obama’s chief political adviser, along with campaign media adviser Jim Margolis, are encouraging lawmakers to use the word “recovery” instead of recession, and “investment” instead of “infrastructure.” Those recommendations came from focus-group research indicating that such framing would make the package more appealing to voters.

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Can we vote these people off the island now or do we have to go through a civil war to deal with this ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Bloomberg News&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="//www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&amp;sid=aHNaiptix3lk&amp;refer=home#”" rel="nofollow">Obama Uses Poll, Focus Groups to Sell Stimulus Plan to Congress </a></p>
<p>President-elect Barack Obama’s top political aides are transplanting their campaign tactics to the policy arena, using data from polls and focus groups to shape the debate over a stimulus plan that may cost at least $775 billion.</p>
<p>David Axelrod, Obama’s chief political adviser, along with campaign media adviser Jim Margolis, are encouraging lawmakers to use the word “recovery” instead of recession, and “investment” instead of “infrastructure.” Those recommendations came from focus-group research indicating that such framing would make the package more appealing to voters.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Can we vote these people off the island now or do we have to go through a civil war to deal with this ?</p>
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		<title>By: Moe Lane</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/mark_i/2009/01/08/time-for-gop-to-get-out-of-the-way/#comment-215</link>
		<dc:creator>Moe Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 01:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kid, if you can&#039;t &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.redstate.com/erick/2008/12/29/mitch-mcconnell-puts-brakes-on-stimulus-package/#comment-14897&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;keep track of what who you find most expedient to blame at any given time&lt;/a&gt;, don&#039;t expect us to, either.

Ciao.

PS: The war in Iraq?  Not in your name, parliament.

Not then, not now, not &lt;I&gt;ever&lt;/I&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kid, if you can&#8217;t <a href="http://www.redstate.com/erick/2008/12/29/mitch-mcconnell-puts-brakes-on-stimulus-package/#comment-14897" rel="nofollow">keep track of what who you find most expedient to blame at any given time</a>, don&#8217;t expect us to, either.</p>
<p>Ciao.</p>
<p>PS: The war in Iraq?  Not in your name, parliament.</p>
<p>Not then, not now, not <i>ever</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: briang</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/mark_i/2009/01/08/time-for-gop-to-get-out-of-the-way/#comment-214</link>
		<dc:creator>briang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 01:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure why any states should be getting bail-outs. 
Besides, if this guy is correct, eight of the top ten states that take more federal funds than they give are &quot;red&quot; states.
http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2004/09/red_states_feed.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure why any states should be getting bail-outs.<br />
Besides, if this guy is correct, eight of the top ten states that take more federal funds than they give are &#8220;red&#8221; states.<br />
http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2004/09/red_states_feed.html</p>
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		<title>By: parliament</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/mark_i/2009/01/08/time-for-gop-to-get-out-of-the-way/#comment-213</link>
		<dc:creator>parliament</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 01:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you say...&quot;Republicans should not want to be anywhere near those numbers.&quot;

The Republican Party OWNS the 1.2 TRILLION dollar deficit. Kinda unrealistic to say you don&#039;t want to be any where near them when you caused them! This is funny!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you say&#8230;&#8221;Republicans should not want to be anywhere near those numbers.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Republican Party OWNS the 1.2 TRILLION dollar deficit. Kinda unrealistic to say you don&#8217;t want to be any where near them when you caused them! This is funny!</p>
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		<title>By: Praying</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/mark_i/2009/01/08/time-for-gop-to-get-out-of-the-way/#comment-212</link>
		<dc:creator>Praying</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 19:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... and if you are so fortunate as to have a GOP congressman, please WRITE, PHONE, or EMAIL them to let them know your opinion.  I don&#039;t know who Obama&#039;s &quot;all but one leading economists&quot; that say Washington MUST do something IMMEDIATELY are, but they are obviously different from the 50+ economists who have contacted John Boehner to express their skepticism for the Obama&#039;s economic stimulus package.  As Senator Alexander said, we don&#039;t need to spend money we don&#039;t have for things we don&#039;t have to have...  This economic &quot;stimulus&quot; plan is like a drug - just say NO!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; and if you are so fortunate as to have a GOP congressman, please WRITE, PHONE, or EMAIL them to let them know your opinion.  I don&#8217;t know who Obama&#8217;s &#8220;all but one leading economists&#8221; that say Washington MUST do something IMMEDIATELY are, but they are obviously different from the 50+ economists who have contacted John Boehner to express their skepticism for the Obama&#8217;s economic stimulus package.  As Senator Alexander said, we don&#8217;t need to spend money we don&#8217;t have for things we don&#8217;t have to have&#8230;  This economic &#8220;stimulus&#8221; plan is like a drug &#8211; just say NO!</p>
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		<title>By: AceInTX</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/mark_i/2009/01/08/time-for-gop-to-get-out-of-the-way/#comment-211</link>
		<dc:creator>AceInTX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In return for $300 billion in tax cuts...half of which are in the form of direct welfare checks to people who don&#039;t pay taxes...they&#039;ll sign off on $400 Billion to $900 Billion in additional spending...

So 2/3 of this travesty increases spending and the size and scope of the government in exchange for 1/3rd of it that lowers taxes on people who don&#039;t pay taxes...We to go guys...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In return for $300 billion in tax cuts&#8230;half of which are in the form of direct welfare checks to people who don&#8217;t pay taxes&#8230;they&#8217;ll sign off on $400 Billion to $900 Billion in additional spending&#8230;</p>
<p>So 2/3 of this travesty increases spending and the size and scope of the government in exchange for 1/3rd of it that lowers taxes on people who don&#8217;t pay taxes&#8230;We to go guys&#8230;</p>
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