Now that Senator Reid apparently has the 60 votes he needs for cloture, and it looks certain that the “health care reform” (sic) Bill will pass the Senate, there is an interesting development that is passing almost unnoticed. And it may make the passage of the Bill completely moot in the long-run.
The Chinese government yesterday made what may be the most definitive and important votes on ObamaCare…and also on a second “stimulus” package, U.S. economic recovery, job creation, and the future of America itself. The implications of what the Chinese officially said and did yesterday are going to be felt throughout 2010 and many years beyond.
The first vote on the budget-busting ObamaCare Bill by China came in Copenhagen:
At an emergency meeting convened at the Bella Center this morning, Barack Obama and Gordon Brown assembled 26 heads of state in an attempt to revive a deal. But China’s Premier Wen Jiabao did not attend and was replaced by vice foreign minister He Yafei.
This afternoon, the US president and his secretary of state Hillary Clinton called another meeting with China, but were snubbed again when only three low-level Chinese delegates arrived.
China has no intention of really limiting its economic development and growth by signing on to a “carbon-emissions” agreement that isn’t lopsided in its favor. And they indicated that diplomatically in an extremely insulting way. There was not even a token gesture to preserve face for President Obama and America.
Even the much-touted “breakthrough” agreement among world leaders only came about, according to Reuters sources, because President Obama and Secretary Clinton broke in on a meeting between Premier Wen and leaders of Brazil and India–a private meeting in Wen’s hotel room that Obama had not been invited to attend. China publicly treated The Great One’s efforts as beneath their notice.
Combine that with a statement also made yesterday by an official of the Chinese government-controlled Central Bank of China, and you have a definitive vote against outrageous expenditures like ObamaCare:
“The United States cannot force foreign governments to increase their holdings of Treasuries,” Zhu said, according to an audio recording of his remarks. “Double the holdings? It is definitely impossible.”
“The US current account deficit is falling as residents’ savings increase, so its trade turnover is falling, which means the US is supplying fewer dollars to the rest of the world,” he added. “The world does not have so much money to buy more US Treasuries.”
In plain language, that means that since the U.S. economy is still so bad and real unemployment still so high, fewer Chinese goods are being imported and China therefore has less deflated U.S. dollars to give back to America in return for U.S. Treasuries. China has been willing to buy our notes with depressed-value dollars up until now because they believed that, in the long run, our economy would improve and the Treasuries would be worth a lot more 30 years down the road than our dollars are currently worth. And the game benefited them doubly because it kept their own manufacturing economy increasing and fueled expansion of their domestic economy.
That is no longer true. Not for China, and not for the rest of the world. The single-minded fixation by the Democrats on passing the most expensive domestic entitlement program in history during the worst economic downturn since the 1930s offers final proof that the U.S. government is is going to continue on its path to economic ruin.
With the ever-increasing printing of paper dollars by the Obama Treasury Department–constantly diluting the value of our currency–and the ever-increasing irresponsible spending by the Democrats controlling the House and the Senate, long-term prospects for our economy are no longer looking good to overseas investors. The game no longer looks like a winning one for China, or for anyone else.
Since we are importing less merchandise, we are not as important a trading-partner for China as we once were. Since we are spending ourselves into bankruptcy and national default, we are no longer a good credit risk for them. So they see no reason to continue to prop up our economy by continuing to buy long-term U.S. Treasury notes.
The “unlimited” well of money that our government has been borrowing from China, our biggest lender, is about to dry up. And no matter how bad the ObamaCare bill is for America, the destruction of the U.S. dollar, continuing runaway spending driving the deficit up to astronomical, impossible levels, and loss of global confidence in the future of our country is even worse.
If you thought the last two years were bad economically, you don’t really want to know what the next two years have in store for us. Government actions to prevent panic, restore confidence and keep the system from collapsing only work when the populace believes that its leaders are responsible and know what they are doing. The ObamaCare fixation, the mania to pass a health care bill, any health care bill, in the face of nearly two-to-one disapproval by voters, the lack of any short-term benefits for the average person, and the obvious massive fiscal irresponsibility and malfeasance–is going to destroy what little confidence is left in America’s economic stability.
Wait until the holiday sales numbers come in if you don’t believe me. Wait until the seasonal layoffs and more business closings start to impact unemployment in January, February and March. Wait until panic begins to set in on legislators up for re-election next Fall who are desperate to do something to justify being sent back to Washington.
In historic terms…next year is 1930 all over again. The worst is yet to come.
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The Chinese Communists won in 1949
izoneguy (Diary) Saturday, December 19th at 5:05PM EST (link)And Obama’s comrades have “won” in 2009…..
Eventually the Chinese will “own” America without a shot being fired.
Comrade Obama will hand over the keys to settle our debts.
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
Yeah...well...
snowshooze (Diary) Saturday, December 19th at 9:29PM EST (link)I thought of that too, and Obama might hand over the keys, but I wouldn’t.
That would get a bit messy for sure, but really…what do you think the options are? The math just isn’t there. I guess China cutting the chord is probably all for the best…as if there is no money to borrow, there is none to give away.
Don't forget
djemi (Diary) Saturday, December 19th at 5:30PM EST (link)That BO and the Dems are going to use the 1.2mill temp Census jobs as a way to improve that unemployment rate, April and May I believe. Now I fully expect that as with stimulus one money, twice as many of these JOBs will be in Dem districts over Rep ones.
You are totaally right China has just cut up the Feds Credit Card, I only wish that they had done it about 14 months ago, you know before TARP was enacted.
“If I can’t shoot rabbits,then I can’t shoot fascist”
“With age, comes Wisdom, but only if you are paying Attention, son” my ‘Old Man’
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So now what?
snowshooze (Diary) Saturday, December 19th at 8:51PM EST (link)1. National Bankruptcy
2.Common sense deregulation, open more opportunity by reducing government & taxes
3. Another stimulus package??
4.Revolution or War
I don’t have any idea how they managed to play the game this long.
So, maybe they have a couple more rabbits in the hat
I don’t see any though…
Return the party to Reagan conservatism. nt
redneck_hippie (Diary) Saturday, December 19th at 9:00PM EST (link)No where close to the right answer.
mbecker908 (Diary) Saturday, December 19th at 9:11PM EST (link)“Reagan conservatism” was really all about foreign policy and defeating communism in the form of the Soviet Union and their acolytes. Reagan wasn’t really all that great domestically although he was certainly better than Carter or Mondale. He had the opportunity to kill Carter’s DoE and passed on it. His supply side economics were good and got us out of the Nixon/Carter re-re-re-cession but he didn’t touch domestic spending or the reach of the federal government.
We need a “Reagan” who see the Democrats in the same light Reagan saw the Soviets. In reality, there isn’t much difference. And they both (Soviets and Democrats) have the same opinion of the US that the founders (and Reagan and most of us) envisioned.
Until we realize that we’re in a war and everyone – and I do mean everyone (sorry Moe) – with a “D” after their name is the enemy we’re done. It may be too late now.
I think we agree. Reagan hated communists.
redneck_hippie (Diary) Saturday, December 19th at 9:17PM EST (link)The communists (whatever their label) are leading our country to ruin. Reagan had true leadership ability and strength of character. If he showed up today, I’d take him because he would not let this situation stand. George Washington didn’t do much about health care either, but I’d take him in a flash.
Dom't misunderstand me redneck
mbecker908 (Diary) Saturday, December 19th at 9:36PM EST (link)and it would be easy to do because I wasn’t real clear. I love RR. He got the job done and in 1980 the Offshore Soviets were a bigger threat than the Onshore Soviets. Reagan did what he needed to do protect American interests, the American people from the then greater enemy. Today, he would rip the BoyPresident™ and his little playmates a new one.
Whew.
redneck_hippie (Diary) Saturday, December 19th at 9:40PM EST (link)For a minute I thought you were going to sick the purity police on me.
Any number of people could get the job done. Reagan was able to get it done with grace and style, an amazing accomplishment.
See, if we talk long enough I can find something to disagree with.
mbecker908 (Diary) Saturday, December 19th at 10:11PM EST (link)Any number of people could get the job done. I think there are critical times in history when there is really only one person who can “get the job done”. In Reagan’s case, there were two. He and Maggie. They were perhaps the only two people on earth who thought the Soviets could be defeated. Certainly no one in the US believed it.
Today, there is probably only one person capable of bringing Marxism to the US and he’s the President.
I’m pretty sure there’s likely only one person out there capable of turning the clock back and I’m guessing we don’t know who s/he is.
LOL 5! on your comment re Obama - n/t
SoFiMil (Diary) Saturday, December 19th at 10:14PM EST (link).
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Oh yeah?
redneck_hippie (Diary) Saturday, December 19th at 10:28PM EST (link)Well, since we usually elect one president at a time, I won’t be able to prove you’re wrong.
And you are so right about The Iron Lady. The tough part of having that one great leader isn’t so much that there is only one, but that there is only one alive who is willing to do it.
And I honestly think that's because God
mbecker908 (Diary) Sunday, December 20th at 12:17AM EST (link)chooses times and raises up individuals.
Washington. Lincoln. Churchill. Reagan/Thatcher.
We just don’t know who our next “individual” will be…
So true, Mike. nt
redneck_hippie (Diary) Sunday, December 20th at 12:30AM EST (link)I personally like the idea of a default by the government.
mbecker908 (Diary) Saturday, December 19th at 9:16PM EST (link)“Hi. Hey, if you’re a creditor to the United States Government effective today you can take the face value of your bond or invoice and submit it for ObamaDollars™. We’re not sure exactly how much an ObamaDollar™ will be ‘worth’, but you can always hope.”
On the plus side, the fed will never be able to borrow a yen again.
Obamadollars...
snowshooze (Diary) Saturday, December 19th at 9:23PM EST (link)The Arabs are talking about a PAN-ARAB currency, yes printing a currency like the Euro so they can get out of dollars too.
Will Obamadollars have his face on them, and will they be on nice soft septic safe paper?
Obama Bucks...
redneck_hippie (Diary) Saturday, December 19th at 9:25PM EST (link)My dark side has been wondering whether the Chinese kept buying our debt because they liked the way our government was turning us into a banana republic. But it went on too long for them to be able to keep losing on their investment, so they had to cash in their chips and walk away from the table.
Embargo China NOW! nt
Menlo (Diary) Saturday, December 19th at 9:52PM EST (link)“The ultimate touchstone of constitutionality is the Constitution itself and not what we have said about it.” -Felix Frankfurter
Unfortunately, if we embargo China...
Jeffrey Malbis (malbis) (Diary) Saturday, December 19th at 10:48PM EST (link)…we’ll put Wal-mart out of business and unemployment in America will triple overnight.
(You know, if somebody had had the foresight to stick magnets in Sam Walton’s pockets at the funeral, and we wrapped copper wire around his coffin, you could power the nation for decades from him revolving in his grave over what his company has become.)
The real problem with an embargo on Chinese goods is twofold: 1.) We don’t manufacture things in America anymore, and it would take a long time to gear up manufacturing again, and 2.) We’d be repeating the mistakes made in the Great Depression with the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act that led to trade wars and made things worse.
I agree with the sentiment, but we’d do ourselves more harm than we’d do to China — and ironically, its the socialists and communists here at home we have to worry about. China is embracing Capitalism.
From the 1940 feature film Ghost Breakers, starring the late, great, Bob Hope and Paulette Goddard:
Scientist: “It’s worse than horrible, because a Zombie has no will of his own. You see them some times, walking around blindly with dead eyes, following orders, not knowing what they do, not caring.”
Bob Hope: “You mean, like Democrats?”
I don't care; it's worth it!
Menlo (Diary) Saturday, December 19th at 10:57PM EST (link)I don’t care who goes out of business, how tough rebuilding will be, or what horrible things happen. The embargo needs to be there, and it needs to be there now. Of course I don’t know why you would be led to believe things would have to be made in the US. There are other countries besides China.
“The ultimate touchstone of constitutionality is the Constitution itself and not what we have said about it.” -Felix Frankfurter
No easy way out.
snowshooze (Diary) Saturday, December 19th at 11:11PM EST (link)Well. I can’t argue that it wouldn’t be kinda fun, but we are already getting to the point where China is tired of us!
That dang idiot of a President may well ruin our credibility so bad that nobody would loan us a nickle.
Plus, they is gonna want der money back.
So…what then?
That's an easy one
Menlo (Diary) Saturday, December 19th at 11:25PM EST (link)To repay any debt, I propose sending off all the individuals who signed agreements to borrow from China to China (along with those who made the decision to import from China) to work off the debts they owe.
“The ultimate touchstone of constitutionality is the Constitution itself and not what we have said about it.” -Felix Frankfurter
Great piece, malbis -- great threads, guys.
Veronica (Diary) Saturday, December 19th at 11:47PM EST (link)We’re screwed fer sure.
The world will always know Obama was at the helm when the US went down.
His name will be synonmous w/ the devil, if it isn’t already.
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