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	<title>Comments on: Time for You All to Stop Thinking of Torture in the Abstract</title>
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		<title>By: katesmith</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/lords86/2009/04/24/time-for-you-all-to-stop-thinking-of-torture-in-the-abstract/#comment-261</link>
		<dc:creator>katesmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 03:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s the local Manhattan channel. I thought at the time they would have the most complete coverage. Thanks for letting me know other places carried the jumpers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s the local Manhattan channel. I thought at the time they would have the most complete coverage. Thanks for letting me know other places carried the jumpers.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Knight</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/lords86/2009/04/24/time-for-you-all-to-stop-thinking-of-torture-in-the-abstract/#comment-260</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No doubt you think this is the official &quot;Republican&quot; position when it&#039;s the diametric opposite.

With this, you&#039;ve come out truly as a creature of the Left - Che, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Hitler, all Socialists, will applaud you as well-trained by your &lt;strike&gt;commissars&lt;/strike&gt;college professors. 

Look, you idiot, it&#039;s been obvious from the moment you came on this site that you&#039;re about as &quot;Republican&quot; as Meghan McCain - heck, considering how vapid you are, you probably *are* Meghan McCain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No doubt you think this is the official &#8220;Republican&#8221; position when it&#8217;s the diametric opposite.</p>
<p>With this, you&#8217;ve come out truly as a creature of the Left &#8211; Che, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Hitler, all Socialists, will applaud you as well-trained by your <strike>commissars</strike>college professors. </p>
<p>Look, you idiot, it&#8217;s been obvious from the moment you came on this site that you&#8217;re about as &#8220;Republican&#8221; as Meghan McCain &#8211; heck, considering how vapid you are, you probably *are* Meghan McCain.</p>
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		<title>By: ajl_mo</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/lords86/2009/04/24/time-for-you-all-to-stop-thinking-of-torture-in-the-abstract/#comment-259</link>
		<dc:creator>ajl_mo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 03:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guess Mr. Lane was right, it wasn&#039;t funny at all. I apologize for finding any humor in your piece.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guess Mr. Lane was right, it wasn&#8217;t funny at all. I apologize for finding any humor in your piece.</p>
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		<title>By: MrMosis</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/lords86/2009/04/24/time-for-you-all-to-stop-thinking-of-torture-in-the-abstract/#comment-258</link>
		<dc:creator>MrMosis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 02:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the best darned comment I have read in forever. How I would love to read the thoughts of modgopgal as she read Jack&#039;s comment.

I like it when squishy libs finally realize that the left&#039;s &quot;intellectualism&quot; is in actuality an unanchored mess of irrationality, without foundation, devoid of any real substance, meaning, or purpose, wandering aimlessly through political life- searching for meaning and purpose, or attempting to create its own. This is when a select few do an about face and come home to reason. But most, with renewed vigor, keep at the tangled mess of fishing line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the best darned comment I have read in forever. How I would love to read the thoughts of modgopgal as she read Jack&#8217;s comment.</p>
<p>I like it when squishy libs finally realize that the left&#8217;s &#8220;intellectualism&#8221; is in actuality an unanchored mess of irrationality, without foundation, devoid of any real substance, meaning, or purpose, wandering aimlessly through political life- searching for meaning and purpose, or attempting to create its own. This is when a select few do an about face and come home to reason. But most, with renewed vigor, keep at the tangled mess of fishing line.</p>
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		<title>By: E Pluribus Unum</title>
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		<dc:creator>E Pluribus Unum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 21:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>because, again, you assume, a priori, there is something wrong with waterboarding as an interrogation technique.

So when you come up for air, just let me know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>because, again, you assume, a priori, there is something wrong with waterboarding as an interrogation technique.</p>
<p>So when you come up for air, just let me know.</p>
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		<title>By: E Pluribus Unum</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/lords86/2009/04/24/time-for-you-all-to-stop-thinking-of-torture-in-the-abstract/#comment-256</link>
		<dc:creator>E Pluribus Unum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 20:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nt</description>
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		<title>By: Achance</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/lords86/2009/04/24/time-for-you-all-to-stop-thinking-of-torture-in-the-abstract/#comment-255</link>
		<dc:creator>Achance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 18:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was pretty obvious what some of the &quot;debris&quot; was and it didn&#039;t take much to put two and two together on what sort of debris has struck that police chaplain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was pretty obvious what some of the &#8220;debris&#8221; was and it didn&#8217;t take much to put two and two together on what sort of debris has struck that police chaplain.</p>
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		<title>By: penguin2</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/lords86/2009/04/24/time-for-you-all-to-stop-thinking-of-torture-in-the-abstract/#comment-254</link>
		<dc:creator>penguin2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 17:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone should see this and remember.  How could we have forgotten so soon.  It is a profound memory.

Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone should see this and remember.  How could we have forgotten so soon.  It is a profound memory.</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Gardner</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/lords86/2009/04/24/time-for-you-all-to-stop-thinking-of-torture-in-the-abstract/#comment-253</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 16:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I knew at the onset that modgopgal wasn&#039;t actually going to concede...the real payoff was when she decided to come out for blanket torture out of frustration from the smack down she had received...muhawhahawahwa!!!

Oh and that quote is so true!!

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I knew at the onset that modgopgal wasn&#8217;t actually going to concede&#8230;the real payoff was when she decided to come out for blanket torture out of frustration from the smack down she had received&#8230;muhawhahawahwa!!!</p>
<p>Oh and that quote is so true!!</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: olsmithie</title>
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		<dc:creator>olsmithie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 16:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aaron, you have much more patience than I!

Well rebutted, but obviously he wasn&#039;t interested in any view but his own.

Regards

&quot;When you tell the truth , it&#039;s easy to keep your story straight.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaron, you have much more patience than I!</p>
<p>Well rebutted, but obviously he wasn&#8217;t interested in any view but his own.</p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>&#8220;When you tell the truth , it&#8217;s easy to keep your story straight.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: mbecker908</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/lords86/2009/04/24/time-for-you-all-to-stop-thinking-of-torture-in-the-abstract/#comment-251</link>
		<dc:creator>mbecker908</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 16:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re not smart enough to form one.

You&#039;re an abstract from the Wizard of Oz.  I suspect somebody gave you a &quot;Degree&quot; and now you think you&#039;ve got a brain.  You don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re not smart enough to form one.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re an abstract from the Wizard of Oz.  I suspect somebody gave you a &#8220;Degree&#8221; and now you think you&#8217;ve got a brain.  You don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: David Hinz</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/lords86/2009/04/24/time-for-you-all-to-stop-thinking-of-torture-in-the-abstract/#comment-250</link>
		<dc:creator>David Hinz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 16:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I doubt the River Rats trained that hard...

and the Pioneer track coaches are equally as cruel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt the River Rats trained that hard&#8230;</p>
<p>and the Pioneer track coaches are equally as cruel.</p>
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		<title>By: Common_Cents</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/lords86/2009/04/24/time-for-you-all-to-stop-thinking-of-torture-in-the-abstract/#comment-249</link>
		<dc:creator>Common_Cents</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 16:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Neil Stevens</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/lords86/2009/04/24/time-for-you-all-to-stop-thinking-of-torture-in-the-abstract/#comment-248</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 16:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I catch you again just asking questions for trolling purposes wihtout giving your own opinion, I&#039;m banning you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I catch you again just asking questions for trolling purposes wihtout giving your own opinion, I&#8217;m banning you.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Gardner</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/lords86/2009/04/24/time-for-you-all-to-stop-thinking-of-torture-in-the-abstract/#comment-247</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 16:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s easy when you are defending the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s easy when you are defending the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Gardner</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/lords86/2009/04/24/time-for-you-all-to-stop-thinking-of-torture-in-the-abstract/#comment-246</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 16:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But I have no problem taking an alinskyite to task...my only questing is why I don&#039;t see a little line through the date on her profile.  She lied and I believe it was knowingly.  And when confronted with the irrefutable truth she decided to come right out and support torture...which is wrong as we are a nation of laws.

Anyhow since she still is here I would still love to see her write a diary about her &quot;Fiscal Conservatism&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But I have no problem taking an alinskyite to task&#8230;my only questing is why I don&#8217;t see a little line through the date on her profile.  She lied and I believe it was knowingly.  And when confronted with the irrefutable truth she decided to come right out and support torture&#8230;which is wrong as we are a nation of laws.</p>
<p>Anyhow since she still is here I would still love to see her write a diary about her &#8220;Fiscal Conservatism&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack_Savage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack_Savage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 14:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you are a Republican like I am Snoop Dogg. You are a cross between a &quot;Concern Troll&quot; and a &quot;I&#039;m Just Curious&quot; troll. Let me summarize your completely transparent posts:

&quot;It seems that my hero, Ronald Reagan, spoke out forcefully against waterboarding by signing this agreement, and I feel him speaking to me from the grave. He is saying that he is sad about George Bush. I am Concerned.&quot;

and:

&quot;Boy, I have gone through the comments at Daily Kos and have found an issue that would likely suck up a lot of time on Redstate. Here is what my friends at Kos say - does anyone care to debate me so I can post their responses over there? I won&#039;t offer any opinions, and have never offered an opinion, because I am Curious.&quot;

and then, the big tell:

&quot;You want an opinion? OK - I am a conservative, so I would cut off digits and pull out fingernails and gouge eyes out and drill teeth, because I am so poisoned by the left I think that&#039;s what you guys believe in. Also, I might do that to homos too, because I think that&#039;s what you call them and that is also the way you feel about them.&quot;

You are completely full of it. Period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you are a Republican like I am Snoop Dogg. You are a cross between a &#8220;Concern Troll&#8221; and a &#8220;I&#8217;m Just Curious&#8221; troll. Let me summarize your completely transparent posts:</p>
<p>&#8220;It seems that my hero, Ronald Reagan, spoke out forcefully against waterboarding by signing this agreement, and I feel him speaking to me from the grave. He is saying that he is sad about George Bush. I am Concerned.&#8221;</p>
<p>and:</p>
<p>&#8220;Boy, I have gone through the comments at Daily Kos and have found an issue that would likely suck up a lot of time on Redstate. Here is what my friends at Kos say &#8211; does anyone care to debate me so I can post their responses over there? I won&#8217;t offer any opinions, and have never offered an opinion, because I am Curious.&#8221;</p>
<p>and then, the big tell:</p>
<p>&#8220;You want an opinion? OK &#8211; I am a conservative, so I would cut off digits and pull out fingernails and gouge eyes out and drill teeth, because I am so poisoned by the left I think that&#8217;s what you guys believe in. Also, I might do that to homos too, because I think that&#8217;s what you call them and that is also the way you feel about them.&#8221;</p>
<p>You are completely full of it. Period.</p>
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		<title>By: woodsman</title>
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		<dc:creator>woodsman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 13:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I first started to read this I wondered where it was going.  As I continued I begin to suspect it sounded like training for rescue swimmers or competitive swimming (which I also did in school).

At the time, I also thought it was torture because it forced all of us to find new levels of determination and yes it did hurt.  But the funny thing is, it did not cause lasting damage.  In fact, it may have provided life extending benefits to last a long while.

The difference between the type of torture experienced by competitive swimmers and other physical training regiments (say the military) and the variety the PC crowd (liberals) speak of pales by comparison.  They are simply twisting words and scaring people to look self righteous (when they are not).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I first started to read this I wondered where it was going.  As I continued I begin to suspect it sounded like training for rescue swimmers or competitive swimming (which I also did in school).</p>
<p>At the time, I also thought it was torture because it forced all of us to find new levels of determination and yes it did hurt.  But the funny thing is, it did not cause lasting damage.  In fact, it may have provided life extending benefits to last a long while.</p>
<p>The difference between the type of torture experienced by competitive swimmers and other physical training regiments (say the military) and the variety the PC crowd (liberals) speak of pales by comparison.  They are simply twisting words and scaring people to look self righteous (when they are not).</p>
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		<title>By: Steph C</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/lords86/2009/04/24/time-for-you-all-to-stop-thinking-of-torture-in-the-abstract/#comment-243</link>
		<dc:creator>Steph C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 13:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this administration and Congress continue to pursue their retrofitting of laws for some sort of vendetta, I&#039;m game. 

Eventually, they&#039;ll be the ones under the foot of the laws made with their own hands and I&#039;m not in favor of &quot;moving on&quot; and giving them a chance to rewrite them once they&#039;re out of power.

In fact, I&#039;m in favor of a law now that makes them liable to forfeiture of their entire fortunes for what they&#039;ve done to this country. That would be torture indeed, if they were forced to live under the rules they&#039;ve made for everyone else... And it will be entirely bipartisan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this administration and Congress continue to pursue their retrofitting of laws for some sort of vendetta, I&#8217;m game. </p>
<p>Eventually, they&#8217;ll be the ones under the foot of the laws made with their own hands and I&#8217;m not in favor of &#8220;moving on&#8221; and giving them a chance to rewrite them once they&#8217;re out of power.</p>
<p>In fact, I&#8217;m in favor of a law now that makes them liable to forfeiture of their entire fortunes for what they&#8217;ve done to this country. That would be torture indeed, if they were forced to live under the rules they&#8217;ve made for everyone else&#8230; And it will be entirely bipartisan.</p>
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		<title>By: janis</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/lords86/2009/04/24/time-for-you-all-to-stop-thinking-of-torture-in-the-abstract/#comment-242</link>
		<dc:creator>janis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 13:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>serves to produce pearls.  Most regular commenters here battle her/it&#039;s inanities with information, quotes, links, and personal experience.  The upshot is that we are a stronger community for all that we learn or reinforce by having to deal with such deceptive idiots.

It&#039;s interesting that she usually shows up only in the threads about gay marriage or &quot;torture.&quot;  The left in general is disturbingly focused on the subject of torture, don&#039;t you think?  And who among us doesn&#039;t believe that they would subscribe wholeheartedly to torturing the likes of US if they could have the chance?  Their focus on inflicting pain and pursuing perversion is most telling of who they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>serves to produce pearls.  Most regular commenters here battle her/it&#8217;s inanities with information, quotes, links, and personal experience.  The upshot is that we are a stronger community for all that we learn or reinforce by having to deal with such deceptive idiots.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s interesting that she usually shows up only in the threads about gay marriage or &#8220;torture.&#8221;  The left in general is disturbingly focused on the subject of torture, don&#8217;t you think?  And who among us doesn&#8217;t believe that they would subscribe wholeheartedly to torturing the likes of US if they could have the chance?  Their focus on inflicting pain and pursuing perversion is most telling of who they are.</p>
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