Go ahead and say it…Maverick.
Will there be any primary opposition for his Senate reelection bid? If so, please inform me. I plan on donating my life’s savings towards his or her campaign.
In a surprising rebuke to the warriors who fought for him through tough times, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) on Sunday sided with President-elect Barack Obama and scolded the Republican National Committee for fanning the Illinois corruption scandal.
On ABC’s “This Week,” host George Stephanopoulos asked: “The chairman of the Republican National Committee, Mike Duncan, has been highly critical of the way President- elect Obama has dealt with this.
“He’s had a statement every single day, saying that the Obama team should reveal all contacts they’ve had with Governor [Rod] Blagojevich. He says that Obama’s promise of transparency to the American people is now being tested. Do you agree with that?”
McCain replied: “I think that the Obama campaign should and will give all information necessary. You know, in all due respect to the Republican National Committee and anybody — right now, I think we should try to be working constructively together, not only on an issue such as this, but on the economy stimulus package, reforms that are necessary. And so, I don’t know all the details of the relationship between President-elect Obama’s campaign or his people and the governor of Illinois, but I have some confidence that all the information will come out. It always does, it seems to me.”
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I'm with you on term limits
WHAT (Diary) Monday, December 15th at 5:31AM EST (link)http://www.conservativewomenunited.blogspot.com/2008/12/car-wreck.html
Just imagine a world with term limits … no Pelosi, Reid, Frank, Rangel … etc.
in fact almost all the losers who are trashing our country would be outta there.
Term Limits are for lazy voters.
NightTwister (Diary) Monday, December 15th at 8:21AM EST (link)It would just make our legislators less accountable than they are now (as if that were possible).
The voters get the candidate they deserve, it’s that simple.
The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. – Winston Churchill
You know NightTwister I never thought of it that way!
JadedByPolitics (Diary) Monday, December 15th at 8:47AM EST (link)I have always said we should have term limits BUT you make perfect sense in that if the people want something different they should vote for it!
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You Can Tell A Bona Fide Conservative By Their Support of Term Limits
IJB Monday, December 15th at 9:46AM EST (link)Opponents of Term Limits conveniently ignore the existence of vast numbers of ‘rotten boroughs’ (think Charlie Rangel’s seat) where the voters will never vote out “their guy”, even if he’s convicted of crimes up to and including murder.
If any conservative is truly supportive of “smaller government”, Term Limits is Exhibit A in how to make it happen.
Which is why I say you can always tell the real bona fide small-government conservatives by whether they support Term Limits or not.
Nice, glib generalization, but untrue.
randy streu (Diary) Monday, December 15th at 9:49AM EST (link)Clearly, you know neither NT, nor myself, nor Jaded, if you would suggest that to disagree with term limits is to give up your Conservative “bona fides”
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IJB Monday, December 15th at 9:53AM EST (link)Conservatives who oppose Term Limits are effectively ‘useful idiots’ in the fight for smaller government.
But if you guys want to “stand on principles”, and allow people like Kennedy, Byrd, Pelosi and Rangel run roughshod over small government actors, be my guest.
But don’t expect the rest of us to pay virtue to that kind of shallow thinking.
and you're entitled to your opinion.
randy streu (Diary) Monday, December 15th at 10:07AM EST (link)you’re also wrong. It happens.
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Principles are why we do what we do.
randy streu (Diary) Monday, December 15th at 10:13AM EST (link)If we’re going to abandon principles for the sake of “winning,” we don’t win.
The argument can be made from both sides, and I can certainly see your point (fortunately, I’m intelligent enough to see the rationale -in spite- of the smug and arrogant way you present yourself)… but I also think that term limits create something that is far worse than a lame duck presidency — and that is a legislature which is unaccountable to its voters. As NT says, a type of political “senioritis.” You disagree, I’m certain, as is your right — but don’t go to questioning my values as a “bona fide” conservative because you happen to disagree with methods.
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Yeah, well your mother wears combat boots.
NightTwister (Diary) Monday, December 15th at 10:27AM EST (link)So what.
The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. – Winston Churchill
You are exactly right IJB
WHAT (Diary) Monday, December 15th at 9:53AM EST (link)Gerrymandering was something else the founding fathers didn’t really envision.
Our founding fathers couldn’t begin to envision the corruption of the process they set up to protect our freedoms. I am a member of the Bona Fide and I support term limits.
You get the government you deserve.
NightTwister (Diary) Monday, December 15th at 10:27AM EST (link)It’s that simple. Term limits wouldn’t make representatives any more conservative than they already are. They’d just rotate one liberal after another if that’s what they really want.
You want change? Educate the voters why they should vote out the liberal and put in a conservative. But hey, that would mean you’d actually have to get out there and do something.
Bob Schaffer was the CO-4 U.S. House Rep. and ran on term limits. He could’ve kept this seat for life, but instead committed leave after his self-imposed limit. That got us Marilyn Musgrave who nobody liked, so now we have Betsy Markey (D).
The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. – Winston Churchill
Shoot, I must have a flawed version of
Bill S (Diary) Monday, December 15th at 10:46AM EST (link)“The Conservative Mind”, because for the life of me, I cannot find the chapter on term limits.
:rolls eyes:
“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins
"Bona Fide Conservatives" hate the Constitution?
Diogenes314 (Diary) Monday, December 15th at 10:47AM EST (link)For the record, TL opponents are quite aware of the existance of safe districts. They just ahppen to beleive that even idiotic voters have the right to vote for the candidate of their choice. And there are Constituional methods of limiting government, rather than denying the electorate open elections.
Exactly, they are for lazy voters and
WHAT (Diary) Monday, December 15th at 9:44AM EST (link)most voters are very lazy. Normally, I wouldn’t be for term limits, except that most people, despite all the information available to them, are remarkably uninformed. Otherwise, they wouldn’t keep voting people like Pelosi, Rangel and the rest back into office. Imagine the presidency now without term limits, you could still be stuck with Clinton or we could be stuck with O. George Washington got it right, two terms and out. FDR makes an excellent case for term limits. Can Pelosi, Reid and the rest be any less accountable than they are now? No, because they raise huge sums of special interest money and because their seats are safe, they amass more power the longer they stay to the ruin us all. The founding fathers never envisioned service in the legislative branch to be a permanent career.
Term Limits Are TERRIBLE!
Pippin (Diary) Monday, December 15th at 8:30AM EST (link)Imagine if the people in charge of our country all had a legislative sense of senioritis! The only thing that keeps them remotely honest is that they are somewhat accountable to the voters.
Of everything that McCain's been up to lately...
randy streu (Diary) Monday, December 15th at 8:49AM EST (link)this is the LAST thing I’m worried about.
Still, I have to agree with NT and Pippin. Term limits won’t solve the problem. If voters are too dumb to vote morons (Pelosi, Reid, etc.) out in the first place, they’ll just keep voting morons in, even WITH term limits.
What needs to happen is that voters need to be educated, and then activated. Instead, we have a whole lot of activists, most of whom work from ignorance.
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Morons Who Don't Have Enough Time To Amass Great Amounts of Power
IJB Monday, December 15th at 9:51AM EST (link)*That’s* why Term Limits are important: it doesn’t eliminate idiots from getting elected – it prevents those idiots from amassing disproportionately vast amounts of power (think – seniority: e.g. Kennedy, Byrd), especially relative to *our guys* who Republican voters do a much better job of keeping honest.
What needs to happen is that voters need to be educated…
Yeah, I have visions of sugarplum Christmases, but that’ll never happen either.
If you want to throw a big wrench into the apparatus of government expansion, Term Limits is one of the best tools available.
It won't happen if people who know better don't work to make it so...
randy streu (Diary) Monday, December 15th at 11:01AM EST (link)your comment smacks of defeatism and an unwillingness to work. Your approach would appear to be, “well, they’re just gonna be idiots anyway, so what’s the point… let’s just take away the freedom to vote for whoever they want to.”
“Bona Fide” Conservatives don’t mind getting their hands a little dirty.
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Tell ya what bubba...
mbecker908 (Diary) Monday, December 15th at 11:11AM EST (link)You write a blog on term limits and make sure you include the details that explain exactly how you’re going get term limits to be the law of the land.
Until you do that, this is just mental masturbation so zip up and get to work. Or stf up.
Voter education is necessary
beaming Monday, December 15th at 10:56AM EST (link)Of course we know that’s not going to happen in public schools, so……
Perhaps the republican party should step up education DURING election campaigns. Generally speaking the 2008 elections were nothing more than a series of opponent bashing ads or so it seemed at times to me. It became very unappealing after awhile, so I tuned it out.
Elections need to be treated like free market capitalism. When was the last time you saw an ad telling you only the reasons why you should not buy the competitor’s product. Republicans need to put more emphasis on why the republican brand is the right purchase.
Standing up for flag waving isn’t enough, there are patriotic democrats too. Show people with facts [ forgive me if I get some wrong, I'm a builder not a statatician ]. Show them for example the federal income tax in 1913 was 3 % and what taxes are today when all of them are added together.
How do you accomplish this? I wish I knew, but I do know the democrats educated the people that voted for Obama in our public schools. I was married to a teacher, she, they voted democrat like it was their duty. Then the liberal corriculum is taught and they graduate uneducated, which fits into the democrats plans nicely. Perhaps everyone has seen the story of the school system where the minimum score on tests will be 50 %. Socialism is here now, and the democrats have no intention to educate the people about free market capitalism.
Thanks for giving me a place to put my thoughts. I’ll go now and continue doing what I can to educate my friends and family.
Geez
Loozianajay (Diary) Monday, December 15th at 11:53AM EST (link)Term limits wasn’t even the real reason for the post. It was about McCain being an aggravating “Maverick” for lack of a more vulgar suitable word.
I don’t even know if I have an opinion on term limits. I’ve thought about it and everytime I think I am for them, I change my mind.