Is Huckabee grinding his ax or just being brutally honest about the GOP?


Or Both?

In his book, which was released this week, chronicles the events of the campaign as well as his thoughts, feelings and opinions on it and the candidates. In fact, his opinions are a little too forthcoming to some and many are saying he is settling old scores, or is attempting an early campaign against possible challengers. He flatly states that many of those that ran are partly to blame for the GOP’s lack of success in ‘06, ‘08 to include the presidential election. That, of course, means John McCain. During the course of the interview with CNN, Huckabee said that he would have ran a different campaign than McCain did and (lightly) criticized the Senator for suspending his campaign only to support a $700 billion dollar bailout that most in the GOP abhorred.

Here are a few excerpts from the book and CNN interview

On Romney: “I didn’t dislike him,” Huckabee told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer in an interview on The Situation Room. “It was a matter of [Romney] taking positions on issues that he had never taken before and at the same time, he was bashing people like me who had been consistent in our own views.”

[On Romney shifting positions once he became a candidate] “His record was anything but conservative until he changed the light bulbs in his chandelier in time to run for president.”

Huckabee also takes issue with Romney for not giving a congratulatory call to him after winning the Iowa caucus.

On Fred Thompson: “Fred Thompson never did grasp the dynamics of the race or the country, and his amazingly lackluster campaign reflected just how disconnected he was with the people, despite the anticipation and expectation that greeted his candidacy.”

Huckabee said this book was not a hit job on anyone but was trying to “tell it in the narrative of the campaign. This book says if we’re going to try to hit the reset button on the Republican Party, move forward, bring us back together and really become a majority party again…we’d better change things.”

One can only imagine had Fred Thompson dropped out before South Carolina (he received 16% of the vote) Huckabee would have more than likely carried South Carolina with the wind at his back heading into Florida. Good money is on Huckabee running again in 2012. This time, he will hardly be cash-strapped and with low national name recognition. Two things that plagued him tremendously during the primaries.


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Huckabee lost because he could only pull in Single Issue Values Voters.

NightTwister (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 10:31AM EST (link)

His temper tantrum book isn’t going to endear himself at all to those that never supported him. It does, however, deepen the rift in the Republican Party that happened during the 2008 Primaries.

Sooner or later the man has to realize he’s part of the problem. He needs to get over himself and what happened and become part of the solution, or we’ll be a permanent minority party.

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. – Winston Churchill

 

I despise Huckabee

Gadianton (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 10:56AM EST (link)

I will never, under any circumstances support that man.

I Go Further

IJB Friday, November 21st at 11:42AM EST (link)

If Huckabee is the nominee in 2012, I will re-register as an independent.

I want nothing to do with any Party that would nominate Huckabee. He’s just that bad.

It could go both ways.

Lelouch (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 12:07PM EST (link)

If Mitt Romney gets the nomination, I will register as a independent as well. I LOATH Mitt Romney.

Go ahead, tell me that the Republican party doesn’t need me.

The only ones who can kill are those who are prepared to be killed.

 
 
 

I see, it's like this

Lelouch (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 12:11PM EST (link)

If Mike Huckabee runs, Mitt Romney supporters will revolt.

If Mitt Romney runs, Mike Huckabee supporters will revolt.

If Sarah Palin runs, the independents and the moderates (not that I care about them) revolt

I have no idea on Jindal.

Have legitimate disagreements with a candidate. don’t lower yourself to Kos levels.

The only ones who can kill are those who are prepared to be killed.

You do so love throwing around that kos word don't you?...

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 12:42PM EST (link)

I suspect you must spend a lot of time over there what with the way you know them….why it’s almost incestuous.

The Republican party doesn't need you.

Diogenes314 (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 12:52PM EST (link)

You’re welcome.

Don't Be Such a Kos

Swamp_Yankee (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 12:55PM EST (link)

He’s kind of Kos. I know he’s Kossing, but he no where near the levels of Kosiness that’s worht Kossing over.

nice swamp... :-)

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 12:59PM EST (link)

You have no idea, period.

mbecker908 (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 1:04PM EST (link)

Huckabee’s higher name recognition will kill the slimy bastard this time around.

He signed on to FairTax only because they had a ready made organization in place. The guy would run from it in a heartbeat if he had to try to implement it.

The guy has never met a problem that can’t be solved by an expansion of government or more government money. He makes Obama look like a statesman on foreign affairs. For all of his screeching about social issues, especially abortion and his call for a Human Life Amendment, he never said which version of the HLA he supported – most of the versions are nothing more than returning the issue to the states and will not “outlaw” abortion in any manner – nor did he address how he would get the HLA – in any form – through the Congress with a 2/3 vote of each house.

Bottom line, if you want the bastard go start a third party. And good riddance if you do.

 
 
 
 
 
 

As I've said before

TxCon (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 1:08PM EST (link)

Huckabee is nothing more than a big-government Christian. He is the 21st century William Jennings Bryan.

See my post below, and...

mbecker908 (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 1:08PM EST (link)

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/HPM/BM1157~Run-Along-Die-Posters.jpg

Bye now. You won’t be missed.

He would be Ross Perot.

Diogenes314 (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 1:13PM EST (link)

Without the money. And half the brains.

And yes, Perot was an idiot.

Huckabee is a Christian Progressive...

Attack Mode (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 1:13PM EST (link)

Not much unlike Wilson. ’nuff said.

“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper” Peter Griffin…Family Guy

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.

Oops...

mbecker908 (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 1:16PM EST (link)

Haha

Lelouch (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 1:22PM EST (link)

The bunny made me laugh.

But really, we could also do without you as well.

I could really care less whether you like Huckabee or not, furthermore, I could really care less whether you leave the party or not.

No matter what you do, people are gonna be pissed of at you. It is better to just stick to your convictions, and not flip-flop at the earliest opportunity, like Mitt Romney.

The only ones who can kill are those who are prepared to be killed.

Mbecker...not to thread jack but...

Attack Mode (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 1:22PM EST (link)

your bunny pic reminded me of this article I saw on drudge. Now I am not equating your actions to this…but just remember there are some mentally unstable people out there.

“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper” Peter Griffin…Family Guy

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.

Not really

Lelouch (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 1:24PM EST (link)

I normally just hear it from you guys.

Incidentally, what incestous relationship ?

The only ones who can kill are those who are prepared to be killed.

He makes Bryan look like Pericles.

Diogenes314 (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 1:26PM EST (link)

**Besides, Bryan actually won his parit’s nomination. The best the Huckster has done or ever will do is tear the GOP apart.

As I said before, meet the Real Cancer of the GOP.**

Actually, I do

Lelouch (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 1:27PM EST (link)

Take off your rose-tinted glasses, and look at his record, if you don’t like it, fine.

But, it would not serve you to call someone else a bastard, that has done nothing to deserve it.

It betrays the fact that you have taken personal offense at Mike Huckabee. Pray tell, what is your offense ?

The only ones who can kill are those who are prepared to be killed.

or Huchabee for that matter....

Attack Mode (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 1:31PM EST (link)

He only saw the light of fiscal conservatism once he started his run for POTUS…and I believe Mbecker was a FredHead…who was the most grounded in principle in both his speech and actions…look at his record in the congress.

“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper” Peter Griffin…Family Guy

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.

Except the father of American Fascism...

Diogenes314 (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 1:35PM EST (link)

…actually won. Of course, it never would nave happened without TR spliting the GOP vote.

Stephen Hall, you've done a heck of a job in only three weeks.

mbecker908 (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 1:38PM EST (link)

You’ve managed to cobble together a posting history that completely destroys any chance you might have looked forward to for having one iota of credibility.

We can, and probably will, assign any future “contributions” of yours to ThePile™ pile where it will be appropriately added to the carrion…

Get over yourself putz. You’ve got nothing to offer.

it would not serve you to call someone else a bastard, that has done nothing to deserve it.

Diogenes314 (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 1:41PM EST (link)

**Agreed. Speaking as someone who was born out of wedlock, that is insulting to bastards everywhere. Besides, I knew Alex Hamilton. Alex was a freind of mine.

The Huckster is no Alex Hamilton.**

Diogenes...Oddly enough...

Attack Mode (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 1:43PM EST (link)

John McCain was the TR in last years race…and I don’t mean that as a compliment…;^)

By the way I believe you said you are from Phoenix?? That is where I grew up…hard to believe we have a street named after Goldwater and the best we can come up with is JMac…a pity. Maybe someday Joe Arpaio will get into politics.

“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper” Peter Griffin…Family Guy

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.

Actually, he was for Guiliani

aesthete (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 1:45PM EST (link)

nt

The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice – G.K. Chesterton

Actually, I was torn between Rudy and Fred.

mbecker908 (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 1:49PM EST (link)

My list (with most of the detail left out) was:

Rudy/Fred. I wanted somebody who would take the fight on his terms to the Dems. There’s nobody better than Rudy at that, in either Party. I like the rest of his quals and I accepted his commitment on both judicial nominations and keeping current abortion restrictions on the books.

I liked Fred’s ability to simply and straightforwardly communicate conservative values. He just deconstructed.

Romney. I like his private sector experience, I don’t think his resume from MA was all that great and his supposed “flips” on abortion didn’t bother me half as much as Huckabee’s bluster on financial and small government issues. I’d rather see Romney in Paulson’s job, but when Rudy and Fred went away, he was my third choice.

McCain. Only because I won’t vote for a Democrat.

Huckabee. I would stay home.

Heh. You beat me. See my comment below.

mbecker908 (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 1:50PM EST (link)

At least I think it’s below :>).

Rudy/Fred was a toss up. By the time the primary got to Arizona I ended up voting for Romney.

mbecker...I was pretty much the same...

Attack Mode (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 1:58PM EST (link)

except I always believed that Rudy would go nowhere…not because of anything in particular just that the press couldn’t wait to show pictures of him in drag non stop for the entire election had he gained any steam.

Fred was my guy after a very brief flirtation with Huckabee, I am Baptist and got caught up for a week but that made me investigate him, once I did that I was mad at Huck for being a fraud and giving Baptist’s a bad name.

Once Fred was gone I supported Romney…then voted for McCain. I don’t ever want to abuse myself like that again…hell there wasn’t even any clad leather boots involved…;^)

“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper” Peter Griffin…Family Guy

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.

I was hoping for a Romney/Kyl ticket myself.

Diogenes314 (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 2:02PM EST (link)

Hotefuly Shaddegg will be the next U.S. Senetor.

And McClown was more of the GOP’s Wilson. The reactionary peels off votes from the best candidate (not that Taft was all that great, but…) and gives the worst possible candidate the win. But we can agree to disagree on this, as long as we agree on the most important issue of the day…

Go Cardinals!

Pretty much the same as my ranking

Finrod (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 2:08PM EST (link)

I would have been very happy with Rudy or Fred; between Mitt, Mike and John, Mitt seemed the least offensive, whereas Mike came in only slightly ahead of John because I knew more of the crap John’s tried to pull over on us.

We’d all be better off if Mike Huckabee gave up on politics entirely and became part of a Boston cover band. At least that’s one thing he does well.

Let’s get down to brass tacks here. How much for the ape?

Diogenes...sorry but I can't stand the Cardinals...

Attack Mode (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 2:26PM EST (link)

I chose my team before we got a team and I never really liked Bill Bidwell….Go Raiders!!…;^)

TR/Wilson…Huck/Jmac…all are progressives to some extent and therefore worthless.

“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper” Peter Griffin…Family Guy

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

I agree with you Diogenes

TxCon (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 2:52PM EST (link)

I was trying to think of a comparable politician in our recent history and that three-time loser was all I could come up with. Huckabee does as much damage to social conservativism than anyone on the other side.

TR/Wilson...Huck/Jmac...all are progressives to some extent and therefore worthless.

Diogenes314 (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 2:52PM EST (link)

Agreed on this, I was actually just making a comparison on the political dynamic. There could have been no Wilson without TR, and no McClown nomination without the Huckster.

I was actually a Card fan back in the 70s (Air Coryell). But that’s okay, I prefer my bandwagon with plenty of leg room. Hor now.

Stephen, you're an ignorant jerk.

mbecker908 (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 6:45PM EST (link)

First of all, I’ve looked at the huckster’s record in great detail. We had long discussions about him during his fifteen minutes of fame after Iowa.

The guy is an unreconstructed southern progressive in the mold of Huey P. Long. The guy has never met a problem that couldn’t be solved by government intervention.

He’s totally disingenuous (that’s a big word for filthy liar) on two of his biggest selling points. One, his support of the HLA. There are at least seven versions of the HLA, only two would actually stop abortion. Mikie never bothered to tell us which version he would support. He also never told us just how he would get any version of the HLA passed. Hint: no way in hell it passes. Second, his adoption of the FairTax. The guy is more challenged at economics that either GWB or JSM. He knows exactly nothing about tax policy or it’s effect on the economy. He jumped on the FT bandwagon because there is a ready built organization of followers of the FT and he had no organization.

After that, in no particular order, was his stupid attacks on the Club for Growth – who, by-the-way, were right on the money about the guy. His absolute and utter lies about his tax increases as Governor. His acceptance of Obama’s pastor’s comments as OK. Everything he said about Romney during the campaign. Most every comment he made about Fred. The fact that he was governor of AR for ten freaking years and left the Republican Party in a complete shambles. I doubt they could elect a dog catcher in a statewide election in AR. Oh, and just for fun, trying to walk out of the Governor’s mansion with the furniture.

That’s the tip of the iceberg. The guy is as slimy as they come.

Brilliant!

Bill S (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 7:03PM EST (link)

A single word used as a noun, verb and adjective in the same sentence. Well played.

“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins

 
 
 
 

THE Reverend Huckabee is a

olsmithie (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 7:39PM EST (link)

nice guy, but no conservative. The way he handled illegals (he didn’t) in his state before the election made a major impression on me.

Of course I wouldn’t expect him to cross Tyson and still be able to remain in politics in that state.

I care not what any of the candidates said in the primary race, or now, for that matter.

I look at the prior 5 to 10 years and compare their stand on important issues. If their story has changed, a lack of character is exposed.

Character is not the main issue, it is the only issue.

All the candidates, with the exception of perhaps Thompson, had major revisions in their ideologies during the campaign when compared with prior statements and votes.

Plastic Republicans are the main reason there is a Marxist in the White House.

We can make all the chatter we want, about all the other reasons for it , but the fact remains, people could not see a marked difference between our candidates, (or Geo.43, for that matter) ,and the Demoncrats.

Sad day.

Regards

Correct on all of the above.

Diogenes314 (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 7:39PM EST (link)

**And on top of all that, he was the only GOP candidate who activly opposed education reform.

Or did I mention that repeatedly?**

Actually, I'd argue that Rudy didn't change any of his positions.

mbecker908 (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 7:56PM EST (link)

On the issue of courts & judges, he’s always been a hard liner. His stand on Roe didn’t bother me because he recognized that he had to give something to the more conservative among us as reassurance. His promise to have the folks he chose working on his judicial selections (primarily Ted Olson) made me warm and fuzzy. In addition, he promised he would respect the status quo with respect to administrative blocks on abortion and abortion funding.

He didn’t change his position, he just accommodated the pro-lifers. It’s called politics.

When Huckabee called us greedy

Spiral (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 8:09PM EST (link)

When Huckabee called the Club for Growth “The Club for Greed,” he lost those of us who have donated money to the Club for Growth because we got tired to sending Republicans to Washington only to see them act like Democrats on spending and taxes.

There’s no way I could support Huckabee for president.

On this we disagree NT.

mbecker908 (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 8:12PM EST (link)

He needs to become part of the wallpaper.

Fine by me.

NightTwister (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 8:21PM EST (link)

That solution works for me too, but so far I’m not convinced he’ll just fade away. It’s too bad, too. I actually kinda liked his TV show.

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. – Winston Churchill

he promised he would respect the status quo

olsmithie (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 8:42PM EST (link)

Rudy seems a likable guy, but trying to sound like he doesn’t support abortion does not wash.
He was actually man enough to put his money where his mouth is.

Guess we will have to agree to disagree..

Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani in his campaign appearances this year has stated that he personally abhors abortion, even though he supports keeping a legal right to choose. But records show that in the ’90s he contributed money at least six times to Planned Parenthood, one of the country’s leading abortion rights groups and its top provider of abortions

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0507/3876.html

Regards

And as long as he was going to nominate originalist justices...

Diogenes314 (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 9:09PM EST (link)

**What difference does it make. Same with Romney. Well I guess it was crucial for the Huckster fans.

Enjoy the Omanation, geniuses. Good luck with that Roe v. Wade thing.**

You missed, or ignored, the point.

mbecker908 (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 9:16PM EST (link)

I specifically said that Rudy NEVER changed his opinion. He didn’t. He was pro-choice going into the election, pro-choice during the entire campaign, and I suspect he’s still pro-choice.

What he DID do is offer an olive branch to pro-life voters in the form of a committee of judicial screeners who, to a person, were pro-life and “originalists” when it comes to interpreting the Constitution.

As Diogenes said, good luck with Roe now.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

I like Huckabee...but

Loozianajay (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 11:13PM EST (link)

Would he be more of “Compassionate” Conservative? The very ideology that ballooned our government and entrenched Washington with factionalism — across both parties. Two things that we are getting hit over the heads with.

Like I said in another post. All the more reason for new faces, new ideas, and a bold new direction.

I demand my reform-minded party back. I demand principle over patronage!

You know olsmithie when I saw your title...

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 11:42PM EST (link)

The Reverend Huckabee….I kid you not my first thought….The Reverend Al Sharpton…funny that!

So you disagree with his policies

emgbane (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 11:49PM EST (link)

So you disagree with his policies, fine so do I, but the I don’t get the venom. Are you mad because he didn’t pick a version of the HLA, or because it wont pass?

Why are you calling the man “slimy’ and ‘bastard?’

Is that language respectful?

 
 
 

Time to Put Up or

dld1717 (Diary) Saturday, November 22nd at 1:50AM EST (link)

Shutup!

Huckabee keeps on going on and on about helping the party. I would love to know what he did for the AR GOP while he was Governor?

He can help party and actually be a voice in Senate if he ran like he should

Re: Originalist judges

Spiral (Diary) Saturday, November 22nd at 7:53AM EST (link)

What difference does it make

It comes down to credibility. Conservatives has been burned by the Blackmun, Stevens, O’Conner, Kennedy and Souter nominations (all by Republican presidents).

Also, we have been burned by Republican US Senators like John McCain who say they support conservative judicial nominees, but side with Democrats on the issue of whether judicial filibusters of conservative judicial nominees should be allowed to continue.

(This is a moot point now that the GOP is where the Democrats were in the 2003-2006 time period. But you can bet that the Democrats will fill the federal court of appeals with Leftish judges. The GOP will not filibuster Obama’s judicial nominations and even if they did, the Democrat Senate would use the Byrd option.)

So, while conservatives like hearing Republican presidential candidates say, “I will nomiminate judges who will interpret the law, not make law. I will nominate people in the mold of Scalia and Thomas,” this isn’t enough for most conservatives.

Pro-lifers are understandably unenthusiastic about placing their trust in a pro-choice Republican the future of the federal courts, on which so much of the pro-life agenda depends. So, pro-lifers still prefer a pro-life Republican candidate for president.

That said, I like Rudy Giuliani.

I just wish he did “flip-flop” and say, “After looking more closely at the abortion issue, I have decided that I am opposed to any taxpayer funding of abortion and I would support a ban on partial-birth abortion. I would also support parental notification.”

Would this kind of flip-flop seem phoney? Sure. But Rudy would have done much better in the primaries if he had met the pro-life community half-way.

Then you must have been a Romney supporter...

Diogenes314 (Diary) Saturday, November 22nd at 9:24AM EST (link)

Since not only did he oppose abortion, but actually put originalist judges on the state bench. But my point is that giving lip service one way or the other is irrelevant, it is the type of judges that are nominated that counts.

Diogenes314, you are correct. Romney.

Spiral (Diary) Saturday, November 22nd at 9:35AM EST (link)

That’s right. I supported Romney, mostly as a protest vote against John McCain.

In the general election, instead of voting for McCain, I wrote in the name of Congressmen Mike Pence.

It comes down to credability.

mbecker908 (Diary) Saturday, November 22nd at 1:40PM EST (link)

Exactly. And because Rudy never changed his opinion but offered a reason for SoCons to support him, at least in my eyes that enhanced his cred. He was/is fundamentally more conservative than the rest of the field on every other issue and he knew he had some fence building/mending to do, hence is commitment on judges and current abortion/abortion funding restrictions.

And, I still think he’d have been one heck of a lot more dynamic candidate – and a better President – than McCain. Can you imagine a Rudy/Sarah rally?

My point was what candidates were saying 5-10 years ago vs

olsmithie (Diary) Monday, November 24th at 10:52PM EST (link)

what they sere selling on the campaign trail.

Didn’t miss a thing.

Regards

And Rudy was saying the same thing

mbecker908 (Diary) Monday, November 24th at 11:12PM EST (link)

the whole time.

Agreed, Rudy was less likely than any of the others (except for Fred) to get tricked by a Souter

JSobieski (Diary) Monday, November 24th at 11:47PM EST (link)

In terms of picking justices for the U.S. Supreme Court, I would have trusted Rudy over anyone else running in 2008 with the exception fo Fred.

Huckabee would have needed to rely on advice from third parties. His use of the phrase “living and breathing” constitution relealed a total lack of insight as to how Roe v. Wade happened in the first place.

My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.

STOP THE MADNESS!

A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!

Lets make a deal--no 2008 retreads

JSobieski (Diary) Monday, November 24th at 11:50PM EST (link)

If someone in 2008 was so great, they would have won.

I will not support ANY of the following in 2012:

Rudy
Huckabee
Romney
Thompson
McCain

Period. Done. Lets turn the page.

We do not need to fall into the Romney vs. Huckabee vs. Rudy split again.

No thanks.

Look where that lead to?

My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.

STOP THE MADNESS!

A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Avoiding future Huckabees

Whitfox (Diary) Tuesday, November 25th at 12:20AM EST (link)

While I agree with many of the complaints about Huckabee above, I think it’s important to realize that he wasn’t some Republican defector, but a true social-conservative, fiscal-liberal. That he had so much appeal in the primaries should be telling us something.

There are a lot of social/defense conservatives who don’t perceive the economy as particularly fair. Recent bailouts aren’t helping that any. And they aren’t necessarily adverse to government stepping in and dictating outcomes.

There are also many social conservatives who have noted that, for all the talk the Republican party has generated, not a lot has actually been done on their pet issues. Most of their recent gains have been by referendum. The idea of a heartfelt social conservative candidate was really, really appealing to them.

Part of this is simple lack of realism of what idealists can expect from the Republican party alliance. But part of this is a sign that Republicans could do with some platform changes.

  • Not only should we be pursuing the economic education that America desperately needs, we should be making sure the benefits of the free market percolate to workers and farmers. I’m not referring to goverment-controlled outcomes or redistribution. But government regulation to make it easier for workers to wage-shop would be both useful and a useful sign that we aren’t the party of the rich.

  • Pick some low-hanging fruit on social conservatism. Abortion really is a great issue for us, but reversing Roe isn’t happening anytime soon. Choose a 2-year goal every 2 years.

Rudy and Sarah - they'd have scorched the earth

civil truth (Diary) Tuesday, November 25th at 12:24AM EST (link)

Certainly no one would have complained about them not taking the battle to the enemy.

Rudy wouldn’t have let Obama slither away like McCain did in the debates and on the campaign trail. And he could have sold his superior experience credentials as John never did.

Given the MSM coverage of McCain, their spin on Rudy and Sarah couldn’t have done any more harm than it did with McCain, and possibly less because Rudy would have fought back.

But I don’t see a clear path as to how that pairing could have happened.

The greatest evil…is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clean, carpeted, warmed, and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voice. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the offices of a thoroughly nasty business concern. -C.S. Lewis

http://www.gmsplace.com/

On economic issues, Huckabee represents the worst aspects of compassionate conservatism to the power of 10

JSobieski (Diary) Tuesday, November 25th at 12:58AM EST (link)

In short, a disaster

My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.

STOP THE MADNESS!

A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!

Please forgive me for not

olsmithie (Diary) Thursday, November 27th at 10:03PM EST (link)

getting the same message you did from Rudy’s campaign.

I will try to do better next time.

I am sure you will want the last word.

Have at it.

Regards