There are lies, damn lies and “Trouble the Water.”


There is a documentary being shown tonight on HBO entitled “Trouble the Water.”  It is about Katrina and, having read the review by one of my “usual suspects” – Linda Stasi of the New York Post, I can say that the kindest thing I can say about the filmmakers is that they are are totally ignorant about Katrina and its aftermath.

The initial section of film was made by Kimberly Rivers Roberts, a person “living below the poverty line” according to Ms. Stasi. She and her husband stayd, along with their neighbors, because “they had no way out.”  After all, “the government did not provide transportation for the trapped.”  Of course, the government is not identified but we all know it was Bush’s fault.  The fact that Mayor Ray Nagin and others in the city government of New Orleans failed to implement their own emergency evacuation plan is not mentioned or, at least, did not penatrate Ms. Stasi’s brain.

Ms. Stasi states that “FEMA never arrived.”  Of course!  FEMA is to blame!  Just ignore the fact that FEMA is not a “first responder” but, as its title states, the Federal Emergency Management Assistance Agency.  FEMA’s job in emergencys such as Katrina is to provide management assistance and logistical support to state and local governments.  In other words, those who “never arrived” were the first responders from the state of Louisiana and the city of New Orleans.  Why didn’t they arrive?  In the case of the Louisiana National Guard units designated for hurricane response, it was because Louisiana’s governor, in spite of appeals from her own staff and from the White House, did not call out the National Guard until it was too late for the units to reach their deployment positions before Katrina arrived.

That caused situations such as the FEMA tractor -trailer, loaded with filled sandbags, arriving at a levee to find that the National Guardsmen that were to use the sandbags to re-enforce the levee had not arrived.  Of course it was FEMA’s (and Bush’s ) fault. That tractor-trailer driver from FEMA should have re-enforced the levee all by himself.

The film mentions that 911 operators were telling people that the government is “not providing rescue at this time” but, it is not clear from Ms. Stasi’s column, just what “government” the 911 operators are speaking about.  Of course, the 911 operators are city employees and may have been refering to city government.  To hose who paid attention to what was happening, the fact that many city employees, who were supposed to perform various functions in accordance with the city’s emergency plans, did not go to their emergency assignments but, instead, took their families and fled the city before Katrina arrived.

Ms. Stasi, to her credit, was one of those people who volunteered to drive a truck with relief supplies to the Gulf.  However the fact that she will “never forget” the total breakdown of FEMA  is disturbing.  She remembers something that did not happen.  It was the total breakdown of the city government of New Orleans and the partial breakdown of the government of the state of Louisiana that the documentary should address not the popular fiction of a FEMA breakdown.



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You're still watching HBO? Brother, turn that TV off. It's for your own gewd. nt

Rod_Patrick (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 12:58PM EST (link)

All you need to know about the fault for Katrina

Beaglescout (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 2:56PM EST (link)

can be learned from comparing what happened in Louisiana to what happened in Mississippi. The property damage was much, much worse in Mississippi, and yet the human toll was higher in Louisiana. The only difference was the local governments. FEMA did not screw this up. Nagin and Blanco did.

“A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one.”

–Alexander Hamilton

That's because Bush took care of Haley Barbour

bk (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 3:10PM EST (link)

while waiting for the levees he blew up to drown all the po black folk that Harry Lee kept trapped in N’awlins.

Surely it had to be that rather than people in MS and AL being more interested in rebuilding than in looting, Nagin being an idiot, Blanco being an idiot, etc.

Wheww...

Steph C (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 3:32PM EST (link)

My first thought when I read the title was that you’re full of it. Good thing I finished reading it.

Dollar for dollar LA has gotten more disaster relief that MS, FL, and AL combined for a couple of hurricanes. You can probably throw in Rita for Texas, too.

“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
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Sorry, but you can't compare New Orleans & Mississippi post-Katrina

Steve Maley (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 5:01PM EST (link)

I don’t disagree with your conclusion; Nagin and Blanco were monumental failures of leadership.

But…

In MS, because it is 100% above sea level, as soon as the storm dissipated, the flood waters receded and the cleanup and rebuilding could begin. Gov. Barbour and all the MS people did a terrific job, no doubt.

In N.O., the city flooded and stayed flooded with filthy, brackish water for several weeks. That’s because of decades-old drainage design that nobody alive today had a say in. 70-80% of the city was under water & stayed that way until it could be pumped out.

The city was 100% evacuated and the infrastructure was completely gone. No hotel rooms, no functioning hospitals, no place to haul the junk off to, no labor, no restaurants, no grocery stores.

I have a hot button for people that try to do an apples to apples comparison of the two. Sure, the gov’ts failed N.O., but that’s not, as you assert, “the only difference”.

The blogger formerly known as ‘Vladimir’.

I'm sure we can go back and forth

Beaglescout (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 9:23PM EST (link)

I lost everything I had in MS. You may have lost everything in LA. But New Orleans’ problems were legion, and other than the sinking ground-level problem almost all of them were caused by the local government. The only non-local government issue I can think of is the Corps of Engineers’ focus on building levees to divert the river around the city so all the nice sediment that would keep the city and the cypress swamps above sea level goes into the Gulf instead.

Otherwise, we know the levee money was spent to build casinos for many years. That is unfortunately symbolic of the multitude of civic problems with New Orleans.

“A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one.”

–Alexander Hamilton
 

We were in Gulfport last Easter.

Steph C (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 9:48PM EST (link)

It still looks like a disaster area in many ways. There’s a boat still up on the beach where Katrina placed it and if IIRC where a house used to be with only the foundation left. FIL is still working on his house with his own money.

I’m sure eventually it will all come back in some ways and it’s not comparing apples to apples but it’s the contrast of apples to oranges.

LA has expectations of being given instead of doing for itself. There was giving and giving and giving and… but it’s never enough. I don’t resent the money LA got but I do wonder when it’s going to be enough.

I hope things are better under Jindal and that people learn that such dependence on government put them in a dangerous situation that killed many and could have killed many more.

“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
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I would submit that what you know about N.O. & Katrina is the MSM narrative.

Steve Maley (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 10:26PM EST (link)

“LA has expectations of being given instead of doing for itself. There was giving and giving and giving and… but it’s never enough. I don’t resent the money LA got but I do wonder when it’s going to be enough.”

Nice generalization.

FYI there are plenty of New Orleanians who didn’t do that, who did just what the folks in MS did, but did you see them on TV? No, that wasn’t the story Anderson Cooper chose to tell.

Why would you automatically question the MSM narrative on, say, Sarah Palin, but swallow it whole on Katrina?

The blogger formerly known as ‘Vladimir’.

Brinkley book

SteveLA (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 10:32PM EST (link)

Vladimir,

Did you read Blinkley’s Book “The Great Deluge”?

While skirting around and painted some of the root racial causes of the madness of New Orleans during Katrina, I liked the book.

I also have a ant NO bias having grown in in Central LA, like many from North of Red Stick, I’m not all that found of the Big Easy.

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Competency over ideological purity and litmus tests

No, SteveLA, I haven't read it.

Steve Maley (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 11:30PM EST (link)

I’ve lived in N.O. 1978-81 & 86-92. I worked in the city but lived in Mandeville, across the lake for three more years until we moved to Lafayette. My wife is a N.O. native and one of our kids was born there. We still have family & friends there. Several of them were heavily impacted by Katrina, as in 8 ft of water in their houses.

N.O. actually evacuated very efficiently for Katrina, considering it was a city of 400,000. (Contrast that with the experience Houston had for Rita one month later. Nobody was stuck on the interstate without gas for Katrina.) The people that stayed in the city for the storm stayed for all kinds of complicated reasons. Not all of them were just passively sitting around waiting for the gov’t to take care of them, as the MSM portrayed.

Not all of them were looters. Not all of them ended up at the Superdome or Convention Center. That’s all you saw in the MSM.

I thought immediately after the storm that the city had a shot at a future if they used Katrina as an excuse to tear down the housing projects & start over. Unfortunately, political reality led the city to follow the path of least resistance, to rebuild in places they should never have.

N.O. is a tragic, complicated city. I love what it could have been. I hate what it has become.

The blogger formerly known as ‘Vladimir’.

Institutional Poverty

SteveLA (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 11:48PM EST (link)

Vladimir

You touched on the reason why NO is what it has become post Katrina, institutional poverty and the housing projects that reflect that institution.

After Moon and the old line Democrats came the take over of NO by the likes of Dollar Bill Bill and his crony’s and pretty much doomed the city. Before Moon, say the 50′s, 60′s and early 70′s NO was corrupt, but it was a corruption that long understood how to bleed the hog without killing it.

Tear down the projects in NO, hardly, they are the political base and in some way the social economic base of the Democratic party in NO. Never going to happen.

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Competency over ideological purity and litmus tests

You touched on something important

bk (Diary) Friday, April 24th at 7:31AM EST (link)

I grew up in NO (56-81) and most of my family still lives there. You saw many parts of the NO area get back on their feet as quickly as possible. I recall visiting Metairie later and seeing that the most limiting factor was getting enough workers. You could flip burgers for $10/hour plus a big bonus, so there were jobs to be had for anyone who wanted one.

In the meantime, as one of my sisters pointed out, in some parts of the city there seemed to be lots of able-bodied people who’d turn up for any and every protest – such as when the city wanted to bulldoze places that sat under water for weeks and were obviously wasted – but many of the same people seemed more interested in looking for handouts (when not protesting) than in doing any sort of actual work.

Obviously you can’t generalize anything 100%, but unlike the MSM image that only the Lower Ninth was wiped out, I visited the house of a friend of my sister’s in Lakeview and the damage there was just as horrendous. It didn’t seem like the people there sat around waiting for TV cameras and notices of protests to take action for themselves….

 
 
 
 

No, I have the narrative of family,

Steph C (Diary) Friday, April 24th at 7:09AM EST (link)

lots of it, on both sides of N.O. to augment anything the news said. I might be a hillbilly but my husband grew up in that area and that’s where his family is, stretched all along the Gulf Coast from Pensacola, FL to TX. Five sisters, assorted cousins, aunt, uncle, mother, and father. It took us a week to find his dad and his stepmom.

I repeat, my father-in-law (spelled out this time) is still working on his house with his own money. There’s a reason for that. His insurance said he makes too much money and FEMA didn’t give him any help either. He is in his late 70s.

I’m sorry for your losses in N.O. but when you minimize the losses of others in other parts to prove your point, you prove theirs instead.

FYI, I’ve never watched Anderson Cooper in my life, with the exception of his appearances in YouTube videos on political blogs.

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FEMA never had a bad reputation until Katrina.

mom2oneson (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 4:35PM EST (link)

There was nothing wrong with them first place, except that they give too much, the government can’t make people listen to warnings and prepare. It wasn’t just the low income there, even the hosptials did not prepare and had the same type of foolish mentality. I thought it was sad Bush did not defend himself.

 

Find a copy of "Dead Ahead" and see what HBO

Achance (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 5:10PM EST (link)

did to the State of Alaska in the Exxon Valdez spill. Hell, we even had a Democrat governor and House then, and we were still evil, self-interested, uncaring, all those lefty words.

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