Stop with the Hawaii and Berg Stuff


Letter to Redstaters and Moe

I do not know how else to convey this other than with solid facts. To me, this is all an attempt to discredit Republicans and Fox news. Please hear me out, I am not a conspiracy nut, but I can put two and two together as I hope you all will in just looking at facts. I would hope that what I say makes sense to you and that everything pertaining to this is removed from this fantastically important website.

Moe, you may not even want to post this. It is up to you. Below are the facts, not my opinions. Decide for yourself when you add them together.

In the last couple of weeks Obama has mentioned Sean Hannity and Fox news numerous times. Even during his comedy speech with John McCain.

Berg, even though he seems like a complete nutcase, is on a nonstop effort to prove this Obama is from Kenya. Whether or not he actually does is besides the point. He might very well have a strong case, and if he does, Obama will do everything in his power to discredit him in the remaining days of this campaign.

Obama campaign is pushing for early voting.

Obama declares that his grandmother is gravely ill, that he was so upset that he wasn’t there when his own mother passed away that he would not allow himself the same mistake. Obama waits 3 days before departing. Apparently, if you are gravely ill one day, you will still be gravely ill 3 days later.

Out pops a completely ridiculous and totally fabricated internet story about a completely bogus enterprise called API (African Press International). I will remind you again, this is a TOTALLY BOGUS ENTITY. Supposedly out of Bismark, they have a completely made up story about some incriminating tapes that they want to release to Fox news concerning Obamas adoption in Indonesia.

On API’s fake website there are photos of several “reporters”. One of the photos is a gentleman holding a phone to his ear. HE DOES NOT WORK FOR THEM. About a week ago, I saw that same photo of that same man in a newsletter that was posted on a website from several years ago. I stumbled upon it after looking up archived material out of the University of Chicago “boxed and put away” material. Only lists of what they contained could be accessed. Lists consiting of alot of Apathied goups, Capitolism and investments in south Africa, Africa Peace tour, and much about Divestment groups. After playing for a couple of days and looking at tons of websites, that mans photo caught my eye and I thought nothing of him in particular. A few days later, I then recognized the photo on this fake API website.

This fake company suggests that they retained (of all people) Philip Berg as their lawyer. Now, this happened several days ago, Obama leaves for Hawaii, and the fake API wants Berg to help in negotions with Fox news to get these fake tapes out to the public. Obama leaving at this very time might played along with the charade. They were trying to get Fox news to report this, even trying to make Obamas departure seem suspicious, hoping they would report it. As if Fox news would have reported API, the tapes that they were waiting on, Obamas “fake” citizenship allegations, bought up Bergs lawsuit, the fact that Berg was retained by API and that the entire thing was a total sham would have come out against FOX NEWS, Berg, Republicans. and suspicion of Obamas citizenship wuld have been wiped clean. It would have made Fox news look like they set the whole thing up, did fake reporting, basically turned them into the MSNBC pile as being downright dirty and malicious. Mind you, had the story been picked up this is exactly what would have happened.

Lo and behold, right here on Redstate, I read about Hawaii, Andy Martin and Frank Davis. Now, again, I stress the importance of this entire “scandal” being completely fabricated by the Obama campaign to set Fox news up, to discredit Republicans, and quite possibly Berg also. (Although the Berg portion is debatable).

They tried so hard to make a speculation frenzy about the fake tapes, invoked Fox news in the process, with the hopes that the newest info about Frank Davis would then be reported by Fox news, therefore impicating them of reporting fake news, discrediting Republicans, throwing the entire citizenship lawsuits out the door and making Obama look like a victim.

This was Obamas October surprise. It exploded on him. So I implore you here, please take some of these facts to heart. I know that they read the diaries here and I know that their affiliations are hell bent on creating a “false scandal” to win this election. This has red flags all over it.


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some pretty good points

Tanggor (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 11:17AM EST (link)

after all, it would be just like the ChicagoKid to play wheels-within-wheels…

One of our failings as Republicans (if you want to see it that way) is we generally prefer things to be straight-up – it makes us vulnerable to the tricky games Dems devise.

“It will be found an unjust and unwise jealousy to deprive a man of his natural liberty upon the supposition he may abuse it.” – George Washington

 

Well to their credit FOX has not bit!

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 11:19AM EST (link)

Well Lisa, there is one small problem

Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 11:20AM EST (link)

It is a federal lawsuit. The suit has not been dismissed. Obama is now in violation of not responding within 30 days to the allegations.

Given that resolution to this is ridiculously simple, providing a registered copy of a birth certificate, it makes all of us who thought this whole thing was a conspiracy theory, scratch our chins and go “hmmmm”.

I don’t know about you, but I could get a registered copy of my birth certificate from Rhode Island in a couple days. In fact I did that to get a passport a few years back.

“If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” – Joe McCarthy

 

It's OK Lisa we can beat him without this anyway!

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 11:28AM EST (link)

well Dave,

Tanggor (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 11:33AM EST (link)

it does make us wonder…

but as I said on another thread earlier in the week, they want us to swing at this, right in the dirt. And before the election.

As soon as we do, he whips out notarized documents and we look like weenies.

If he wins, and this stuff has legs, we can chase him with it later – we will already have lost, so we will have no place to go but up…

“It will be found an unjust and unwise jealousy to deprive a man of his natural liberty upon the supposition he may abuse it.” – George Washington

 
 

I am with Lisa

MikeO Friday, October 24th at 11:37AM EST (link)

I do not see how jumping on Berg’s and Martin’s bandwagon is going to help this play-out any quicker.

It’s worth watching from a distance, but there is a lot of risk to repeating the claim that Senator Obama is not eligible for office.

Even if he is not eligible for office, do you doubt for one minute that he would be able to produce documentation that somebody, somewhere would deem acceptable proof?

But, if elected POTUS, who could ask him for that proof

Danielle Davis (ocleverone) (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 11:46AM EST (link)

with authority?

I do think that it is something we need to keep an eye on while sticking to the issues at hand.

But I certainly would like the confirmation sooner, rather than later.

To me, “consensus” seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies. So it is something in which no one believes and to which no one objects … There are still people in my party who believe in “consensus” politics. I regard them as Quislings, as traitors … I mean it. — Margaret Thatcher

Could the Supreme Court Ask For It?

Strelnikov (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 11:55AM EST (link)

Assuming that any appeal or scandal went that far, would the SCOTUS have authority to force the records into the public’s scrutiny?

This story has gone nowhere fast, I agree: basically if the Clinton’s never found enough on Obama, there is nothing to be found, except for the usual pro-terrorist, pro-Communist, pro-infanticide, pro-Chicago-style corruption issues!

As of November 4, 2008, the Code Words will be: “Klaatu – Borada – Nikto!”

As would I

MikeO Friday, October 24th at 11:57AM EST (link)

I would love nothing better than to see this situation solved right now.

If Senator Obama’s love of this country approached even a tenth of his nakedly ambitious will to power, then he would have resolved this months ago to everyone’s satisfaction.

I already know what he is. Questioning whether he meets the basic objective qualifications for office is a losing proposition because he will be able to provide proof regardless of its authenticity. Attaining POTUS will not make him a better liar—he has already reached a master’s rating in that field.

How many lefties would you guess are out there who still believe today that those Rather & Mapes TANG documents were written nearly forty years ago?

 
 
 
 

do you know why we like links?

David Hinz (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 11:59AM EST (link)

when links, especially links to original material is provided, the reader is provided the opportunity to go to that website to make up their own minds as to the validity of the post.

For instance, Berg. By providing links that can link directly to Berg himself, and the things he puts out, you can evaluate the truth of his claims.

For instance, API. By providing links to that website and the articles referenced, the reader can make up their own minds as to the validity of the claims being made.

I note that you make the claim that API is a bogus website. I find that interesting since their archives go back more than two years and include articles on all manner of reports on African nations.

I note also that API is based in Norway, which seemed strange at first, until I came to understand that there is a large African minority population in that country.

If that website is entirely bogus, as you claim, it was sure a well planned bogus plant, with almost 7000 articles over the past two years.

 

This is not, repeat not being pushed by any

ILLINOIS_CONSERV (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 12:35PM EST (link)

repubs. At least I haven’t seen any repubs carry this flag. This is Berg’s baby. I have not heard the McCain endorse any of Berg’s claims. Which is prudent. This cannot be construed as a republican attack.

Now as an American citizen I would hope there would be checks and balances in place to ensure that a political candidate, regardless of party affiliation, conform to the constitutional requirments of running for elected office. Plain and simple. Berg has taken on this fight, let him finish it. It is ridiculous if BHO’s BC sits in a county courthouse in Hawaii and he doesn’t have a lacky produce it and resolve this issue.

The only thing necessary for the triumph [of evil] is for good men to do nothing – Edmund Burke

 

Yes, Mr. Hinz, Sir

LisaDe (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 12:47PM EST (link)

I would have assumed that this being an old story here that most people are well aware of the characters and most likely have already visited these sites. My apology for that assumption.

As for API being bogus, well, Sir, this Obama campaign has been in the works for years, well calculated and with a definite agenda and time table. Also, if I wanted to, I can design a website with any material, date it anyway I want and release it. There is nothing out of the ordinary here with regards to that.

 

Yes, Mr. Hinz, Sir

LisaDe (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 12:47PM EST (link)

I would have assumed that this being an old story here that most people are well aware of the characters and most likely have already visited these sites. My apology for that assumption.

As for API being bogus, well, Sir, this Obama campaign has been in the works for years, well calculated and with a definite agenda and time table. Also, if I wanted to, I can design a website with any material, date it anyway I want and release it. There is nothing out of the ordinary here with regards to that.

 

Yes, Mr. Hinz, Sir

LisaDe (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 12:47PM EST (link)

I would have assumed that this being an old story here that most people are well aware of the characters and most likely have already visited these sites. My apology for that assumption.

As for API being bogus, well, Sir, this Obama campaign has been in the works for years, well calculated and with a definite agenda and time table. Also, if I wanted to, I can design a website with any material, date it anyway I want and release it. There is nothing out of the ordinary here with regards to that.

do you have any evidence?

David Hinz (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 1:50PM EST (link)

As I pointed out in the original post at RS, I have been sitting back before reporting on the story, waiting to see what transpires.

Other than your word, do you have any evidence that the API website and article is bogus?

The Rainbow Foundation was founded in 1995 and has been registered as an NGO since 1996, (according to its website) although, interestingly enough, the entire Rainbow Foundation website appears to have been created on Oct 10, 2008.

An interesting excerpt from the API website, written by Charles Onyango Obbo, from 10-22-08

Ironically, the Republicans, although more openly racist, do better. It took George Bush, not Clinton, to appoint a Gen Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice as America’s foreign affairs ministers.

The best election result for the radical international non-American intellectual order, therefore, is for Obama to lose.

That would make sense, because it would confirm the dominant orthodoxy that America is racist; and/or that it has a very corrupt political system that allows the Republican-linked Establishment to steal elections.

An Obama victory would leave many Third World intellectuals and nationalists either jobless, struggling for relevance, or scurrying back to the drawing boards to explain an America led by a black president. Of course, they will also wish that he met some misfortune at the hands of a red-neck.

It doesn’t seem to be an endorsement of John McCain so much as an indictment of world elitists.

While the Rainbow Foundation website is brand new, the API site has every appearance of having been up and running for two years. ALTHOUGH I have been unable to find any links from OTHER sources to API before this latest Michele Obama story.

I have been trying to figure this one out for two weeks — and I ask you once again, do you have any evidence?

Please bear with me Sir

LisaDe (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 2:13PM EST (link)

My cumputer does not want to cooperate today.

The picture of the gentleman raised a red flag, as well as them retaining Phillip Berg as a lawyer, as well as using an open letter to Michele Obama as oposed to a private correspondence, as well as provoking fox news as opposed to any other news organization including the AP. To me, this is transparent. I am not a reporter or investigator by any means, but I assume that people like yourself would have been on this already and I just kinda knitted it together. I was bought up to look for the common sense in things, and this is wide open blantant common sense.

 
 
 

You may have coined yourself a word there...

H (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 2:48PM EST (link)

Not to be a typo Nazi… but I think this new spelling of the word “capitalism” may just take off in an Obama presidency…

Lists consiting of alot of Apathied goups, Capitolism and investments in south Africa