With the revelation that roughly as many Americans believe that Barack Obama is a Muslim as those who believe that building a mosque at Ground Zero is a swell idea, democrats and the media (so far as they are distinguishable) have apparently cottoned to a new type of “pin the extremist on the Republican”: asking Republican candidates whether they believe Obama is a Muslim.
In an interview with Roll Call, GOP candidate Tom Ganley, running against vulnerable Democratic incumbent Betty Sutton in OH-13 (No. 62 in the First Read Field of 64), would not say whether he thinks the president is a Muslim.
Look, I certainly get that it’s fun to see whether candidates will express disagreement with beliefs held by the extremist fringe members of their base; that’s why every Democrat in the country is getting asked whether they agree with Obama on the Ground Zero mosque. Not by the media, mind you, but rather by guerilla bloggers with Flip cameras; whatever, the information is getting out there. And look, it’s patently ridiculous to suggest that Obama is a secret Muslim. Just because the guy offered no Easter prayer or offeratory statement on the White House website, whereas Ramadan had both (closing with “may God’s peace be upon you”) is no reason to think the guy secretly prays to the East. Just because he gave a lengthy and sympathetic speech to Muslims at a prayer dinner for Ramadan and pretty much ignored the National Day of Prayer, that’s no evidence at all that he directs his prayers to Allah. And it’s absolutely irresponsible to draw conclusions from the fact that he went to church for 20 years without hearing any of the sermons, or from the fact that his dad was apparently confused about whether he was a Muslim when he enrolled him in a Madrassa as a kid. These beliefs are fringe, and are certainly no more worthy of the media’s respect than the belief that building a mosque at Ground Zero is appropriate.
The point, however, is that whether Barack Obama is a Muslim or not is a complete sideshow. The ambush on Ganley to ask him this completely irrelevant question was certainly not the first, nor will it be the last. For instance, Missouri Senate candidate Roy Blunt was ambushed recently during the middle of a discussion of his deficit reduction proposal and asked repeatedly whether he supported Paul Ryan’s Roadmap plan. The clear reason for this was to give Robin Carnahan ammo to claim that Blunt is trying to steal social security checks (scaring the elderly on Social Security being the most time-honored baseless attack in the left’s political arsenal). Blunt refused to take the bait and tried to turn discussion back to his own plan, and the story becomes “Blunt distancing himself from Paul Ryan” (having failed to paint Blunt as an extremist, might as well alienate him from the TEA Party people).
In the same way, Ganley refused today to answer a completely irrelevant question, and the story becomes that he “refuses to say whether Obama is a Muslim.” This, of course, is completely different from “I have no position on whether Obama is a Muslim” (what Ganley actually said), which clearly implies not giving a crap about whether he is a Muslim or not. Allow Ganley to clear it up in even more excruciating detail:
When asked whether he believes Obama is a Muslim, Ganley “said he would prefer not to answer that question, because he felt it was irrelevant to the interview at hand,” said Ganley spokeswoman, Meghan Snyder. “For the record, he doesn’t believe the president is Muslim.”
“I do not believe President Obama’s religion has any impact on the need for jobs in Ohio’s 13th district,” Ganley said in a press statement. “According to the White House, our president is a Christian and I have no reason to believe otherwise.”
There. Problem solved. But don’t expect this to be the end of completely irrelevant questions asked to GOP candidates. The media senses that the end is coming for Democratic reign in Congress, and that every second Republicans are reminding people of the damage the Democrats have wrought just hastens the process. Therefore, the only thing left to do is to get try to get them talking about something else, and lie about what they said when Republicans refuse to take the bait. Pretty soon, Marco Rubio is going to get asked whether he has any comment on the possibility that Barack Obama was born on Jupiter. And woe to him if he dares to respond with “That’s a ridiculous question and I’m not dignifiying it with a response” lest MSNBC report, “Marco Rubio refuses to deny that Barack Obama was born on Jupiter.”
Sad and predictable, and the voters aren’t taking the bait.
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Well,I believe that religion does matter,because
avgjo (Diary) Thursday, August 19th at 9:10PM EST (link)a religion that allows taqqiya, vs. one that says ‘Thou shalt not lie’ without condition will give people a different set of parameters to work within.
As for his true religion, who knows? I know that he made a gaffe with George Stephanopoulos, where he referred to his ‘Muslim faith’ and Georgie had to correct him, ‘you mean your Christian faith’.
As a Christian, I have never made that gaffe,and I am a gaffe-o-matic. Neither have the Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists or Jews whom I have known ever in front of me made such a gaffe.
Probably, he doesn’t care what religion. He worships himself. But don’t cast aspersion to those folks who question what his religion is, when there is some evidence that raises questions. Further, don’t just brush off the question of whether a religion matters. At least treat the issue as debatable.
Ceterum autem censeo, Obamaecuram esse delendam.
Taqiyya: You really have no idea what it means do you?
Martin Knight (Diary) Friday, August 20th at 7:45PM EST (link)Let me give you an example of Taqiyya in action.
Let’s try another one.
Or how about …?
Are you really sure Christianity and Judaism have no exceptions for such cases?
PS: Taqiyya is really a Shi’ite concept, but the above are the three general contexts in which lying (or dissimulation) is allowed in Islam.
As a Muslim I am allowed to lie to save my life or the lives of others, and this is usually in terms of denying that I am a Muslim – in that event I am allowed to even call the Prophet names. However, I am not allowed to lie to save my life at the expense of another’s.
I am allowed to lie to reconcile two people.
I am allowed to lie in times of war … i.e. feed an enemy false intelligence. However, since I’m not in a war, that’s not going to pass muster with Allah (SWT).
Mr Knight
ywhyvon1 Friday, August 20th at 8:24PM EST (link)I am so glad you are here and active on redstate. I have to admit, I’m totally in the dark with what Islam is( truly is, as opposed to the viche thought), but hey, I’m running around in the gray in regard to what Christianity is if I let myself be swayed by the other than main principles.
Unfortunately, currently I need to finish the Bible(that takes some time) and also catch up on CS Elliot and GK Chesterton, among others, as well, so I know who I am. Thank you for giving me glimpses of who you are because it’s going to take me awhile to get to the Koran and any author’s you would like to share with me.
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PS
ywhyvon1 Friday, August 20th at 8:27PM EST (link)I love bacon, but somehow I don’t feel you will hold that against me.
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Yeah, taqqiya means 'piety,righteousness'.
avgjo (Diary) Friday, August 20th at 9:00PM EST (link)And what is that to different people?
Perhaps you would practice such ‘deception’ as you gave examples of. But would others? A ‘fanatical Muslim’ might see deception such as I referred to as righteous,if it helps to achieve what he sees as something helpful to his religion. The question is, how do I know which is which? And that’s why I made my comment.
But nice try!
Ceterum autem censeo, Obamaecuram esse delendam.
sorry, comes from root meaning 'piety' etc.
avgjo (Diary) Friday, August 20th at 9:15PM EST (link)Years since I studied Arabic.
Ceterum autem censeo, Obamaecuram esse delendam.
avgjo: Sorry for the late reply.
Martin Knight (Diary) Saturday, August 21st at 4:49AM EST (link)Well, as a Muslim, one should practice such deception in such situations. I always assumed that the same rule applies with Christianity and Judaism.
Another illustration; when one of the Prophet’s companions was waylaid by enemies of Islam, he was ordered to insult the Prophet (SAW) and deny Islam with a sword to his neck after watching his parents who had accepted Islam get tortured to death.
Terrified, he did as they asked and tearfully went to report himself to the Prophet (SAW) thinking he had foredoomed himself to Hell for his action/speech. The Prophet (SAW) told him instead that Allah (SWT) sees what’s inside hearts and therefore if such a situation occurs, he should call him all the names he needs to to survive.
But I guess this is the crux of the matter;
A ‘fanatical Muslim’ might see deception such as I referred to as righteous,if it helps to achieve what he sees as something helpful to his religion.
Three things,
1. only a tiny majority of Muslims are ‘fanatics’.
2. The fanatic is wrong; according to all reputable Islamic scholars for the whole of Islam’s existence, Islam does not allow treachery, even in war. You are not allowed to betray a trust under any circumstances except to save lives.
Here’s how it applies in this case, being granted citizenship or a visa automatically becomes a covenant between you and the state, you are charged to obey the laws and authority of the state in exchange for your safety and freedom to practice your religion while under its authority. To do otherwise (like 9/11 Hijackers, Nidal Hassan, etc.) is treachery which is 100% forbidden in Islam.
In fact, historically, even if a Muslim nation is at war, its couriers who are allowed into enemy territory under a flag of truce are not permitted to engage in any sabotage or assist in any sabotage until they have completed their mission.
Think of a visa or citizenship, where one is not prevented from saying the Shahada, praying, fasting, paying Zakat and performing the Hajj as a flag of truce, a covenant charging you with good behavior in return for your security and freedom to practice your religion.
3. No one other than someone utterly, irredeemably stupid could believe that 9/11 would be “helpful” to Islam. That’s why the average fanatic (even if educated) is actually dumb. If not, he’d be asking the so-called Imam asking him to commit mass murder and suicide in order to become a Shaheed (with a straight ticket to Paradise) why he does not do so or send his children to do so instead.
"only a tiny majority of Muslims are ‘fanatics’."
JadedByPolitics (Diary) Saturday, August 21st at 7:15AM EST (link)The where are the masses of “moderates”? I don’t see them fighting back against the extremist hell you would be lucky to find many who will even say that Hamas is a terrorist group. It is as if when they say it they will be blown to bits. I have listened to the moderates (the 10 or 20 and usually from Canada) and they live in FEAR of the the millions who are NOT! it is sick and shameful. I see that you are fighting this image here at Redstate Martin and that is commendable but you are one lone voice in a sea of hate and Americans recognize that there are far and few like you.
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smitch61 Thursday, August 19th at 9:10PM EST (link)The republicans just need to learn how to play the game. If I were asked whether or not I believed the president might be a muslim, I would reply with the following:
“To the best of my knowledge, president Obama has stated many times he is of christian faith, so I will take him at his word, although I would expect that if the president was indeed a christian, he would be proud of that fact and want to share with the world he was an apostate, perhaps he will share that with us all in good time, all in good time”..
5555!
exidore (Diary) Thursday, August 19th at 9:16PM EST (link)n/t
“Death smiles at everyone. Soldiers smile back.”
Obama is more of an Autodeist than a Muslim
Superheater (Diary) Thursday, August 19th at 9:29PM EST (link)But I’m still waiting for him to accuse the adherents of the “great religion of peace” of being clingers, especially the ones that wave AK-47′s in the air….and walk out on a Saudi prince the way he did on the Israeli PM (even if he feels compelled to bow before bailing)
Yeah that and having a NASA special outreach to Jews to remind them of their achievements in math and physics..
If I were running for office
DerKrieger (Diary) Thursday, August 19th at 10:19PM EST (link)…I wouldn’t say he’s a Muslim even if I thought he was. No need to feed the beast.
“In questions of power, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution.” – Thomas Jefferson
“I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.” – James Madison
Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any further obedience.” — John Locke, 1690
55555 ^
ywhyvon1 Saturday, August 21st at 1:57AM EST (link)shhhhhh
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Keep the Pressure Going ... on the Dems
tanyag Thursday, August 19th at 10:41PM EST (link)You said, “The point, hoever, is that whether Barack Obama is a Muslim or not is a complete sideshow”. I respectfully disagree. This is not a side show or a distraction. Islam assaults our culture and desecrates our holy grounds (even if our government never called Ground Zero a sacred ground, it is in our hearts).
What Ganley said was an excellent answer, one that many GOPers should adopt. It is irrelevant to the issues he is running on. However, it is an excellent question to ask any Democrat. For starters, it is time to put them on defense where they should be forever. Take no prisoners!
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From riehlworldview.com
Jack_Savage (Diary) Thursday, August 19th at 11:05PM EST (link)Apparently from an op-ed at the NYT:
“‘Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (it’ll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.”
Moreover, Mr. Obama’s own grandfather in Kenya was a Muslim. Mr. Obama never met his grandfather and says he isn’t sure if his grandfather’s two wives were simultaneous or consecutive, or even if he was Sunni or Shiite. (O.K., maybe Mr. Obama should just give up on Alabama.)’
The opening lines of the Adhan (Azaan) is the Shahada. As for a growing number of Americans who believe Obama is a Muslim, I have no idea why.
“Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that Muhammad is his prophet… ”
According to Islamic scholars, reciting the Shahada, the Muslim declaration of faith, makes one a Muslim. This simple yet profound statement expresses a Muslim’s complete acceptance of, and total commitment to, the message of Islam.”
One doesn't "leave" Islam
azmar Friday, August 20th at 4:51PM EST (link)He was in a Muslim school to what is called the age of reason, around 10. Reciting the Shahada is all that is required to be a Muslim and you can be sure he DID recite those words every day, many times. Thereafter if one forsakes the faith, he is subject to the death penalty. However Islam allows a member to pretend to leave, in order to deceive infidels. He not only was trained in the faith, he associated with them throughout his young years, and even now. Quacks like a duck…
What difference does it make? Judeo-Christian teaching is to love your neighbor. Islam teaches children to hate from infancy, hate all “infidels”, as shown in all the news clips from Muslim nations.
It's a silly question. Muslims can't be Marxists.
Next93 (Diary) Thursday, August 19th at 11:08PM EST (link)Funny how he manages to recognize Ramadan but can’t be bothered to be at Arlington on the 4th of July, appologizes for American behavoir to the Muslim world but can’t be bothered to show up at the BSA’s 100th aniversary.
Still, it would be silly to think that he could be a Muslim AND a Marxist. And I’m 100% convinced that he’s a Marxist.
Obama was The One in 2008.
He’ll be a BIGGER one in 2012.
Why Are You Convinced of This?...
IJB Thursday, August 19th at 11:29PM EST (link)I’m pretty sure a movement arose in the 50′s to marry Islam with Socialism/Communism, though I don’t know the details.
Not well
aesthete (Diary) Thursday, August 19th at 11:52PM EST (link)Essentially, the only states to institute Marxist states in the Muslim world were Yemen and Afghanistan, and neither regime had support from clerics or from the religious.
The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice – G.K. Chesterton
Marxism and Communism Are Not The Same Things
IJB Friday, August 20th at 12:10AM EST (link)Marxism is pretty much incompatible with Islam because if its vehemently atheist bent. So of course that didn’t work.
Communism simply means “no private property”, which I would think could be worked in with Islam (though, admittedly, I don’t know that much about the specifics of Islam…).
I think Obama's pals would have a problem with "no private property"
Next93 (Diary) Friday, August 20th at 12:41AM EST (link)The Democrats don’t have a problem with THIER private property. It’s *other people’s* private property they have a problem with. Just ask Kos, Oprah, the two Johns, Algore, the Clintons, the Boxers, the Pelosis, etc.
Obama was The One in 2008.
He’ll be a BIGGER one in 2012.
The Left's concept of private property is
davesinsanantonio (Diary) Friday, August 20th at 6:40AM EST (link)What’s mine is mine, and what’s yours belongs to the state.
A marriage of convenience, perhaps
merryj1 Friday, August 20th at 5:01AM EST (link)The Islamists seem willing to form alliances for their own purposes, until it suits their purpose to sever said “friendships.”
A Muslim Brotherhood founder known as “Hitler’s Mufti” (who received funding from Himmler through the Dresden Bank) was tasked with spreading Nazism throughout the Muslim world and to help take the Reich “into the 21st century.” After WWII ended with Germany’s defeat, the Brits’ MI5 (or is it 6?) approached the OSS/fledgling CIA with a geat “opportunity” to recruit and “turn” the Brotherhood as allies of the West against the Soviet’s plots and expansion. Turned out the MI5 (or 6) had gained this great opportunity through their man Kim Philby, who subsequently defected to the Soviet Union to avoid trial and penalties for (other) treason.
Search “al bana nazi” and “amin al husseini.”
WaPost reporting unknowns as fact...
Just_Saying Thursday, August 19th at 11:20PM EST (link)Washington Post: “The number of people who now correctly identify Obama as a Christian has dropped to 34 percent”
How can anybody assert Obama is correctly identified as a Christian? Besides the obvious evidence that Obama is not a Christian, absolutely no one can “correctly identify” any Christian. Only God knows the heart. There may be evidence of Christianity, but no positive identification. [I see little evidence -- talk is not proof! Additionally, if he's a Christian in the style of Reverend Wright, he's arguably not Christian.]
When did ethical journalism include unfound statements of “would-be” truths?
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BTW, Obama appears more muslim than Christian
Just_Saying Thursday, August 19th at 11:20PM EST (link)I am not a journalist, so it’s fine for me to state: I believe Obama is a muslim.
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He might not be a muslim
Adjoran (Diary) Friday, August 20th at 4:10AM EST (link)But he sure seems to like to kiss their hindparts softly, moistly, and with feeling.
Ignore the Loons--Stick of Issues
greyhawk Friday, August 20th at 7:30AM EST (link)This is a good article and shows how the MSM leftists will distort anything you say, as a way of making you look like a kook. I suggest to my friends all the time, to never allow libs to distract them with their idiocy. These leftist loons have preconceived notions that become true and real in their perverted minds, and they hear nothing at all that does not fit with the distorted facts of reality that is in their sick and perverted minds.
So, ignore lunatics, and stick to issues. Whether Obama is a Muslim or not is irrelevant. What is relevant are the actions of destruction that he has done to this nation and continues to do so. Stick to this and nothing else. The Media purposely try and Distract Attention from The Realities of Obama’s Administration and the policies they are enacting and the legislation that he is being handed by this lunatic fringe and criminal congress and he signs into law. Nothing else matters except the Policies and Actions that Are Destroying Our Freedoms and at the Same Time Taxing Us To Death as they bankrupt the nation with their out of control spending and expansion of the size, scope and power of the Totalitarian Federal Government.
greyhawk
Although the evidence
america1st (Diary) Friday, August 20th at 7:47AM EST (link)of zero being a moslem is largely circumstantial, I have no doubt a grand jury would bring in an indictment so charging if this were a criminal matter.
That said, it is a minor issue . . . a tiny dim M9I lie in the galaxy of this regime’s calculated subversions and perversions of law, system and process. It may or may not be demonstrated as an ancillary issue in an impeachment trial or other legal proceeding, but the key matter is to castrate this Socialist in November by stripping it of its allies. Then we can begin the process of repairing the damage these swine have done to our beloved Republic while preparing to send them all naked into the streets in 2012. We will not be safe until none of those who perpetrated this massive assault on America remain in any position of authority.
Logic in the mind of a liberal is like a snowflake in the desert: lost, alone and soon destroyed by a hostile environment.
Islam Matters
atillathehun Friday, August 20th at 9:10AM EST (link)Since Islam is a belife system that codifies state and religion it is more compatible with the worship of the state. My belief is that the administrattion’s goal is to bring the country closer to the worship of the state.
This goal is old and is seen in all walks of American culture up to and including historical disinformation perpetrated by acedemia. Darwin being a prime mover of the removal of Christianity form the culture.
Good article---MSM will try to deflect and distort the narrative
smagar (Diary) Friday, August 20th at 9:19AM EST (link)There are plenty of Dem Congressmen/women who didn’t have contentious and costly primaries. They, and their union/Hollywood allies, have plenty of cash for making campaign commercials.
Campaign commercials—especially negative ones—-sound best when you can use soundbites of your opponent “saying” something that sounds bad.
The MSM is now busy at work manufacturing those soundbites. I.e., the MSM is stockpiling the seeds that the Dems will start planting, in hopes they’ll bloom after Labor Day into effective campaign ads against Republicans.
Expect the MSM to soon turn its attention to starving any stories that favor the GOP of oxygen….
…until mid-November. Then, Howard Kurtz will emerge and lecture the MSM again about being biased….the MSM will nod guiltily and knowlingly in publicy while chuckling in private…and the circle of political journalism life will continue.
Unless, of course, we take the House in November.
“Who will stand/On either hand/And guard this bridge with me?” (Macaulay)
Key word in your article: DISTRACTING
rsturm Friday, August 20th at 9:54AM EST (link)Distraction, Alinsky style, is key in the Primary elections (again).
Good example: Fla. Governor’s race. It seems that Rick Scott’s entry in that race, is simply to dirty-up the Rep campaign, and the otherwise squeaky-clean (yes, nerdy) future of McCollum, so that even if Scott can’t pull off a win, he may make the weaker Rep beat both he AND McCollum – in the style of the McCain Primary wins over stronger Rep’s for President in ’08 – thus to secure a win for a Dem Governor in the November election.
NOTE: FFA Floridafamily.org found a new bit on Rick Scott… who boasts of being an old Eagle Scout…. that in his wife’s name are 2 million shares in a company called Quepasa Corporation….
Quepasa.com – according to this 5/26/10 Market Wire report recruits latino women to be PORN models for Quepasa Playboy Mexico. That trust of Rick Scott’s wife just gave his campaign $2 million.
So that’s their current investment. It was ~10 yrs ago that his company, HCA overbilled Medicare, resulting in a $1.7 billion fine. He still refuses to open the books on that one.
The states must control the federal government
highlanderjuan Friday, August 20th at 10:30AM EST (link)There are a few thoughts to remember.
1. There is definitely a two class system in the United States today, with an unelected power elite that controls our elections, our government, and our economy. We are just the dumb worker class to the power elites in WDC.
Our ruling class:
http://spectator.org/archives/2010/07/16/americas-ruling-class-and-the/
How to circumvent the ruling class:
http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/vernon/100816
2. We are going through some changes that are immense in scope:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/34245998/Takuan-Seiyo-Goodbye-to-All-That
3. The states created the federal government, and it is the states who must control and limit the power of the federal government.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/35635114/John-Sutherland-State-Sovereignty-8-9-10
Think about the 1 million plus Tea Party march on Washington last year and how it wasn’t even acknowledged by the Washington elite. Think about how the difference would have been if the people had marched on their own state capitals. the state governments are where the people’s power resides.
We must control and limit the federal government’s power and control over us by way of our state governments, because the feds simply do not answer to the people anymore.
Retake control of the states and we retake control of the feds.
He's neither
p3orion Friday, August 20th at 11:25AM EST (link)Obama is whatever he needs to be at the time. When he was a young boy, he went to a madrassa and called himself Muslim because his stepfather told him to. Later, when it became politically expedient to be a Christian (or too obviously IN-expedient to continue as a Muslim) he committed apostasy, declared himself a Christian, and spent 20 years in Rev Wright’s church, where he paid attention not to the Christian teachings, but the black separatist ones.
Many people choose a religion to identify with, and then pay no more real attention to it.
Obama’s identity is not based on ANY religion, but on the Marxist ideologies he has always sought out, whether he sat in a church pew or at a school desk. His REAL religion is the Church of Obama, and he is its messiah.
Obama is using Muslims to his advantage....
qurys Friday, August 20th at 1:36PM EST (link)and they are doing the same in return. Look, if it was to Obama’s political advantage to use the Amish to further his liberal agenda he would be criss crossing the country in a horse and buggy telling us how much he really likes horses. He does what serves his purposes, from swimming in the gulf to not going to church. He doesn’t need to go to Church because he already is elected. He can say God Bless America out of one side of his mouth while chatting about the Islamic call to prayer out of the other. His set of principles derive from one thing and one thing only…..what is good for Barack Obama.
Obama’s “faith” has nothing to do with this election. His policies and legislation have everything to do with November 2nd.
GOP Candidates, say this:
dambama Friday, August 20th at 2:18PM EST (link)“I don’t give a damn what his religion is, I only care that his policies are destroying America’s economy.
His policies have put millions out of work and in the welfare line.
Americans have lost their faith in government, and it has nothing to do with what faith this president practices”.
Next question?
The Religon of the President
ihateliberals Friday, August 20th at 3:34PM EST (link)hasn’t matter much over the past 200+ years. What does matter is the way they act as President . When they conduct themselves with dignity and gain the respect of the people and do things that are pro-free market and for the American people that is what they care about. When the President does nothing about the economy or ignores the will of the people to push his own agenda then that is when people start looking at the motivation. That is when religion or anything else they can point to as to a Presidents motivation. In the case of Obama his action speak louder than the press release that he isn’t a Muslim. As Forest Gump pointed out to us ” Stupid is as Stupid does”
The Oldest Catch 22
leehazel Friday, August 20th at 5:23PM EST (link)Have you stopped beating your wife/husband yet? Yes or No.
Response to "Do you believe Barack Obama is a Muslim?"
Martin Knight (Diary) Friday, August 20th at 6:46PM EST (link)The proper response to such a question by Republican candidate for office is and should always be; “That is a remarkably stupid question and you should be ashamed of yourself for asking it. So unless you’re only here to play silly gotcha games like you just tried to pull, let’s move on to the actual relevant issues in this election that the American people actually care about.”
Simple. And it puts the idiot hack in his/her place.
Martin Knight, I disagree with you on this
Scope (Diary) Friday, August 20th at 7:08PM EST (link)First, it is never wise to call a constituent an idiot, or to portray any question the attendees pose as being stupid or idiotic. Not good politics for any candidates.
I would make the answer short and sweet. President Obama said he is a Christian, and, like all of you, I don’t have any more information than you do, to make any definitive statement on the religion that the president has chosen.
The polls show that there are many that have no idea what religion the President adheres to, and practices. Let it at that. End of story.
If any Republican candidate tries to answer a question, that puts him squarely here or there, they are asking for backlash from one or the other.
I would make the answer even shorter
izoneguy (Diary) Friday, August 20th at 7:13PM EST (link)Response to “Do you believe Barack Obama is a Muslim?”
That’s a question only President Obama can answer.
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
55555 Izoneguy
Scope (Diary) Friday, August 20th at 8:35PM EST (link)Just as the birthers and truthers want to try to take Obama down with a rediculous issue, after 53% voted for him, the question now about his religion is a non-starter also. I understand that the Mosque issue needs fore and center, there are also many other issues that need to be addressed. The economy and jobs should be outweighing the mosque talk at this time. This has been too easy for the Dems to distract, and, they are taking it to the bank. Highest unemployment claims since November, every economic report gets corrected down a wqeek a month later. The O’s approval rating in the tank, as well as the Congress, yet, the airwaves are filled with the Mosque and Obama’s statement. Manufactured crisis if I ever saw one.
Yes, enough with the Mosquarade. Please no more Mosque dairies
izoneguy (Diary) Saturday, August 21st at 12:40AM EST (link)Go here to get all the mosque info you will ever need.
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
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aesthete (Diary) Saturday, August 21st at 1:54AM EST (link)The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice – G.K. Chesterton
Scope: Not a constituent, a reporter. [nt]
Martin Knight (Diary) Friday, August 20th at 8:10PM EST (link)Is there any difference Martin?
Scope (Diary) Friday, August 20th at 8:20PM EST (link)n/t
Yep ... A constituent is a non-combatant.
Martin Knight (Diary) Friday, August 20th at 8:40PM EST (link)A hack reporter (by definition, any journalist who would play a gotcha stunt like that is a hack) is a part of the opposition.
Martin- I'm sorry, but, again I disagree
Scope (Diary) Friday, August 20th at 8:51PM EST (link)Why would it be different if a Constituent asked that question or if a Reporter asked it? The townhalls have shown us all that the voters are engaged, and, with all of the turmoil about Obama’s lack of explanation about his religious beliefs, any Constitiuent can very easily ask the same question. Look at the townhalls about Ocare last year. The people are riled, and, they are not shy about their questions. The answer should be the same from Republicans everywhere. I actually like izoneguy’s answer- You will have to ask President Obama about that. Bingo.
Reporters who ask it aren't doing so in good faith (nt)
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In a pre-interview I asked a Congressman what he though of the Mosquarade
izoneguy (Diary) Saturday, August 21st at 12:52AM EST (link)But I did not ambush him and ask him on the record what he thought.
We both agreed that it was a non sequitur. Neil is right. Any reporter asking that “question” is not doing so in good faith.
But if they do ask it – the response should be:
That’s a question only President Obama can answer.
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
In the current atmosphere of
Scope (Diary) Saturday, August 21st at 8:45AM EST (link)bussed in (non) constituients at townhalls, and rallies etc., I still don’t see the difference of who is asking questions. The answers given by any candidates, if they are being honest, should always be the same, no matter who is asking the question. At this time, there is no definitive proof of what religion Obama practices, inwardly or expressively. To say he is or isn’t a Muslim is just guessing, just as to say he is or isn’t a Christian is just guessing.
I myself personally believe, that Obama uses foggy religious rhetoric, depending on the crowd before him in the attempt to gain/keep supporters, and who are willing to fill the collection plate, so to speak. Then it’s on to the next event. I don’t think Obama has totally embraced any defined religion, only that which puts him front and center.