In yet another sign of Jim Bunning’s weakness, another potential candidate who swore to not enter the race unless Bunning decided to retire is making noise about entering the race:
FRANKFORT, Ky. — Republican Rand Paul, son of former presidential candidate Ron Paul, said Friday he is poised to enter the race for U.S. Sen. Jim Bunning’s seat if the 77-year-old sports icon decides to retire.
“I’ve been traveling the state and giving speeches as if there is going to be a race,” he told The Associated Press. “Every bone in my body says there is going to be a race.”
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“Out of respect for Sen. Bunning, I’m not doing anything formally,” Paul said. “I’m not forming any committees, I’m waiting for him to have a graceful way saying what he’s going to do.”
I don’t know a lot about Rand Paul, but a cursory amount of research indicates that he is basically Ron Paul, only younger. For instance, in this clip (which is admittedly an interview made in support of his father), Rand Paul seems enamored of the same leftist talking points about Iraq as his father, and seems to share his father’s belief that it’s “courageous” to lard up a budget bill with personal pork projects (when you know with 100% certainty that it is going to pass) and then vote against that same budget bill as a meaningless symbolic gesture:
We do not need another hypocritical pro-pork Republican in the Senate, much less one who spends most of his time spewing Democrat talking points on the war and attacking his fellow Republicans on everything else (most of which he is likewise guilty of). Neither do we need a candidate who somehow thinks that Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution is unconstitutional.
However, Rand Paul’s public grousing about entering the race against Bunning – who has become something of a cult hero among actual fiscal conservatives for his vocal opposition to TARP – indicates clearly a truth that everyone but Jim Bunning himself has recognized: if Jim Bunning runs in 2010, he will lose, and probably lose handily. The Kentucky Senate seat should not be a particularly hard hold for the GOP, but Bunning is spectacularly bad as a candidate and despite being a 2-term incumbent has shown a stunning inability to raise any funds at all to defend his seat against a likely second challenge from Mongiardo, who almost defeated him on a shoestring budget in 2004, which was a very good year for Republicans and in which Bunning benefited from a very strong Bush win in Kentucky.
I don’t know enough about Trey Grayson or Rand Paul to make a definitive determination on whether either would make a better Senator than Bunning at this point, but I do believe that either would be better than Mongiardo by a long shot. And if Bunning runs opposed in the GOP primary, we will lose yet another seat that should be safe GOP due solely to the failings of the candidate we ran, rather than the failings of the GOP as a whole. It is time for Jim Bunning to accept reality and step aside; and if he will not do so, it is time for Grayson and/or Paul to stop posturing about which of them respects Bunning more and step up to keep this seat out of Democrat hands by challenging Bunning, if necessary.
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Not another Paul?
zeebeach Monday, May 4th at 12:35PM EST (link)I didn’t realise there was a little Paul out there. Conservatives need to fight this family with all their might, IMO. I’d vote for a liberal Dem before I’d vote for Ron Paul and apparently his son is cut from the same cloth? Just what we don’t need.
This doesn't surprise me.
AskMeLater (Diary) Monday, May 4th at 2:34PM EST (link)Considering both Republicans and Democrats largely support war, deficit financing and large government. I can see why Republicans would rather vote for a Democrat rather than a Paul.
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It's a real shock to find moRons
Leon H. Wolf (Diary) Monday, May 4th at 2:43PM EST (link)living by the tenets of Op Ivy lyrics. Further proof that they are all Lifelong Republicans (R) who have been shamefully treated by their own party machine!!
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You are correct.
AskMeLater (Diary) Monday, May 4th at 3:01PM EST (link)I’m not a lifelong Republican. Until two and half years ago. I was a liberal. Thanks to Ron Paul and others like him. I now support limited government, individual responsibility and freedom.
It is a shame that the Republican party no longer practices what it preaches. I would vote Republican if I thought they would actually work for conservative government. Instead the only difference I can see between Republican and Democrat is their view on gay marriage, abortion and two or three tenths of a trillion in the federal budget.
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The real shame is
Leon H. Wolf (Diary) Monday, May 4th at 3:10PM EST (link)That people who have allegedly had this conversion have no interest in supporting GOP candidates who actually practice this message like Mark Sanford or Jim DeMint and instead are blindly devoted to a hypocritical pork-lover and conspiracy-theory coddler like Ron Paul.
There are bad Republicans in the GOP. Ron Paul is not the alternative.
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I can't speak for anyone esle.
AskMeLater (Diary) Monday, May 4th at 3:32PM EST (link)I will support any Republican that truly believes and works for a limited, Constitutional government. What I will not do is blindly vote for the name with an ‘R’ beside it.
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Fair enough
Leon H. Wolf (Diary) Monday, May 4th at 3:40PM EST (link)We won’t begrudge anyone that position here. Just out of curiosity, can you identify any Republican other than Paul you would support?
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Not Addressed to me, but...
zarathustra57 Monday, May 4th at 3:46PM EST (link)As a paleoconservative/libertarain, and I’m not speaking for everyone who likes/liked Ron Paul, but I happen to be a big fan of Governor Sanford, and would like him to take a run in 2012. I’m also curious to see where Jindal takes Louisiana in the next few years.
I'm interested in Jindal as well.
AskMeLater (Diary) Monday, May 4th at 6:58PM EST (link)I like his rhetoric. I hope his actions match his words.
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I support...
AskMeLater (Diary) Monday, May 4th at 6:44PM EST (link)Bunning
Shelby
Graham
Huckabee
I like John McCain, but would not support him as President.
I like Fred Thompson, but would not support him as President.
I’m not very familiar with them, but what I’ve seen of DeMint and Cantor seems OK.
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Oh, great. Another vote splitter.
farstar99 (Diary) Monday, May 4th at 1:13PM EST (link)Chalk another seat up to the Democrats.
University of Kentucky
Will Monday, May 4th at 2:47PM EST (link)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akpiuKthviY —-I attend UK and was here for this one and was very impressed. He will be a strong voice for the Constitution if he is elected (which is most important) and I think he is the only Republican that, I believe, can beat Mongiardo. Dr. Paul’s convictions will help him compete in the eastern part of the state where this election will be won or lost. I am from eastern Kentucky, and trust me when I say that people from east Kentucky follow Lt. Governor Mongiardo pretty loyally. But there is a growing realization of people, like me, that see Mongiardo for the backboneless, no standards, careerists, liberal that he is. So Dr. Paul’s convictions against Mongiardo’s lack of backbone will allow Dr. Paul to win a significant portion of the eastern part of the state, and that will allow him to win the election. If we nominate Grayson we risk Mongiardo being able to label him as “just another rich Republican from the Golden Triangle” and if that happens Mongiardo will carry the entire eastern part of the state.
“Look at my arms, you will find no party hand-cuff on them.” –Davy Crockett
I don't really have a huge problem with Paul in Congress
aesthete (Diary) Monday, May 4th at 4:27PM EST (link)I just had a problem w/his dad running for President, since the guy had no experience governing anything, doesn’t have a coalition, and hasn’t gotten any of his major initiatives passed in Congress. Out of the candidates suggested for the seat, I think Paul would do well, and would probably have decent fundraising stats, though I don’t live there, and wouldn’t want to presume to know what would play in the district.
The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice – G.K. Chesterton
Ron Paul
Dan McLaughlin (Diary) Monday, May 4th at 7:09PM EST (link)I used to take the position that having precisely one Ron Paul in Congress was a good thing, if only to remind us that just saying no to things is sometimes a good answer.
After his POTUS run, I’m not so sure. Paul’s another vote for horrendous, irresponsible foreign policy.
“No compromise with the main purpose, no peace till victory, no pact with unrepentant wrong.” – Winston Churchill
I'm of two minds on that issue
aesthete (Diary) Monday, May 4th at 11:20PM EST (link)I can see merit in the points that both neo-conservatives and paleo-cons make WRT foreign policy: we’re not, and shouldn’t be, the world’s police. That position necessarily has a lack of focus, and oftentimes, allows for flawed prioritization of issues. I see this Wilsonian concept as the root of neo-conservative foreign policy, and though it’s not often taken to those extremes, it can be a damaging philosophy both for our country and others. To that end, I see the paleocon view.
However, it’s absurd to think that we can live in the isolationism that we had prior to Teddy Roosevelt. The world has grown too small for that, and as such, events that affect countries aligned with our own can often affect us (ex., Axis forces, USSR).
As such, I think that it’s fine to allow someone who believes in a more isolationist foreign policy at the table is a good thing, if only to have alternate views on foreign policy. I draw the line at military spending and improvement: if a given candidate isn’t willing to support our troops currently in combat, regardless of philosophical objections, and if they’re not willing to fund the military, it becomes a serious concern, IMO. I can deal with an isolationist America, but not with a weak one.
The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice – G.K. Chesterton
Pork, while bad,
devCharles Monday, May 4th at 9:08PM EST (link)is not what is hurting our country. It’s the medicare/medicaid/social security, massive increases in federal departments, and these massive spending bills.
Rand Paul would likely be a steadfast fighter for reforming the first one, cutting the second one, and fighting against the third one as steadfastly as his father votes against many of the inane bills that go through Congress.
He’s also probably strongly pro-life like Ron.
If Bunning retires, and Rand wins the primary, I’d definitely support him.
“If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism.” – Ronald Regan
From the ground
Gengisdon (Diary) Tuesday, May 5th at 10:00AM EST (link)The more likely Democratic senatorial candidate to come out of the primary is AG Jack Conway. Young guy, good fund raiser, lined up endorsements of Rep. Chandler, KY-6, and John Yarmouth, KY-3, not to mention the mayor of our biggest metro, Jerry Abramson of Louisville. Dan Mongiardo is a good guy, but probably doesn’t have the legs to hang with Conway either in fundraising or in votes in Western Kentucky or the metros. Dr. Dan ran an inspired race in 2004 against Bunning, but the truth of the matter is that Jim Bunning was the root cause of that close race with his zany behavior on the campaign trail.
On your side, Trey Grayson would be a great candidate. He’s the last statewide state office Republican standing (besides, of course, Richie Farmer, who is a special case) and he comes from solid Republican bloodlines in Northern Kentucky. He’s also young, a good fundraiser, and emminently competent. He’s the one you want, if Bunning will get out of the way.
But the Hebrew word, the word timshel—‘Thou mayest’— that gives a choice. It might be the most important word in the world. That says the way is open. That throws it right back on a man. For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.’
Agreed on all points
Leon H. Wolf (Diary) Tuesday, May 5th at 10:07AM EST (link)But I had always assumed that the Ds would let Mongiardo have another shot at Bunning, if Bunning runs. If Bunning doesn’t run, I assumed the primary would be more competitive. I haven’t seen any polling yet, though, so I could have it backwards.
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He's not getting the free shot
Gengisdon (Diary) Tuesday, May 5th at 10:18AM EST (link)Although I would prefer not to have a tough primary. Both candidates are the sort of good-government Dems that probably won’t go nuclear on each other.
I actually haven’t seen head-to-head polling Conway v. Mongiardo. I have seen numbers Conway v. Bunning, Mongiardo v. Bunning, Conway v. Grayson, and Mongiardo v. Grayson, and it looks like right now Jack Conway has the best numbers against either Republican.
Lt. Gov. Mongiardo has the somewhat lukewarm endorsement of Gov. Beshear, whose reach is not as great as some previous governors. He’s got good support out of portions of Eastern Kentucky, with some crossover in Lexington. Jack picked up the rest of the Democratic “who’s who” and has Louisville and some strength in Western Kentucky. He ran a good 5-6 points ahead of the Beshear-Mongiardo ticket in 2007, even with Beshear running against a tainted and broken Fletcher.
I almost feel like a traitor for pointing directors of RedState toward a candidate I don’t actually want to have to run against (not like you wouldn’t have figure it out yourself, though) but Sec. State. Grayson is a good candidate for you guys. He’s a touch to the right of McConnell and represents the best of the next generation of Kentucky Republicans. You ought to check him out.
As a side note, I didn’t know Ron Paul had kin in KY but I admit I’m mildly ashamed by that
. Ronulans everywhere!
But the Hebrew word, the word timshel—‘Thou mayest’— that gives a choice. It might be the most important word in the world. That says the way is open. That throws it right back on a man. For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.’
In order to ease your conscience
Leon H. Wolf (Diary) Tuesday, May 5th at 10:26AM EST (link)You can probably guess without any hints who we’ll be endorsing in that particular primary.
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Rand will be so pleased!
Gengisdon (Diary) Tuesday, May 5th at 12:05PM EST (link)As a side note, does anyone else find it spectacularly amusing that Ron Paul, last champion for the gold standard, would have a son named Rand? Isn’t that South Africa’s currency, named after the gold mines?
Of course, my guess is it may have had something to do with Ayn Rand, but nonetheless.
But the Hebrew word, the word timshel—‘Thou mayest’— that gives a choice. It might be the most important word in the world. That says the way is open. That throws it right back on a man. For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.’
Kowalski
Gengisdon (Diary) Tuesday, May 5th at 10:09AM EST (link)In reference to my last line, he’s the one you want, even if Bunning won’t get out of the way. Seriously. Bunning’s sell-by date is looong past.
But the Hebrew word, the word timshel—‘Thou mayest’— that gives a choice. It might be the most important word in the world. That says the way is open. That throws it right back on a man. For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.’
A very ignorant article
reagamnesty Wednesday, May 6th at 8:09AM EST (link)Cutting the number of earmarks does not cut spending. An earmark is a congressional provision that directs federal agencies to spend funds already authorized on specific projects. If the funds aren’t earmarked, the agencies can spend the money any way they see fit. That is, the executive branch, rather than Congress, will determine how the taxpayer’s money is spent.
Earmarks, in short, protect states’ rights.
And as far as foreign policy goes – sorry, you’ve all been duped. Osama bin Laden is free. Are you??