Do you see this diary? This diary is a great example of what not to put in a diary. It is a great example of what to put in an open thread instead. I would delete the diary so that it wasn’t sitting there pushing a diary someone spent time and effort on off the list, but I wanted to leave up an example of a diary that does not belong in the diaries section.
No personal offense to the diarist intended, who I’m sure is a perfectly nice guy. But we need to start being more conscious of using diaries for substantive posts rather than toss-offs, which belong in an open thread. Like this one!
Open thread.
Steve Maley
Neil Stevens
Daniel Horowitz
Thanks for the suggestion!
kyoufuu (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 10:24AM EST (link)Still being relatively new to RS, I didn’t realize there was that option. I will keep that in mind for the future
“There are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations.” — James Madison
“I swear by my life, and my love of it, that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine.”
I'm Confused
Jack Le Moine (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 7:20PM EST (link)I must admit that I am new here. I wish to actively contribute to this site in the future, so I want to get familiar with the rules and expectations.
This diary strikes me as a human interest story. I’m not sure why it is so bad. Is it because of the content or is it because of the length.
In the diary posts around this one, I see story on an Obama Q &A (Obama Addresses Blagojevich Scandal) which is extremely short – much less time and effort were expended on that post that the above author evidently expended on his. Also, there is a Beethoven birthday entry which consists of just a picture and a caption.
I’m really not trying to argue here; just trying to understand. Why is this one so bad and others not?
Jack Le Moine
http://poljournal.blogspot.com/
Correct me if wrong...
kyoufuu (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 10:27PM EST (link)It was my both the lack of length and substantive value that was the problem. As originally posted, it was pretty much just a link, along with a few sentences that failed to describe why it was important enough to bump from the sidebar a member diary that probably had a lot more to say.
As far as the posts you had mentioned, those are on the frontpage, which is different than member diaries. It’s not a problem if they’re short, since they do not interfere with the member diary sidebar on the right.
Can anyone confirm if i am right or not?
“There are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations.” — James Madison
“I swear by my life, and my love of it, that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine.”
go here....
speciallist (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 10:30PM EST (link)Please go here right now
Peculiar...
kyoufuu (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 10:31AM EST (link)I went to delete the post, so I could move it to this open thread, but I am not permitted. Anyone with the knowledge or power to assist with the matter?
“There are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations.” — James Madison
“I swear by my life, and my love of it, that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine.”
Sorry to single you out.
Leon H. Wolf (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 10:32AM EST (link)Please don’t bother with moving it to the open thread now; it’s being used as an example. Therefore, it should stay there. Welcome to RedState!
————
We can’t stop here. This is bat country.
Bah!
kyoufuu (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 10:39AM EST (link)I was hoping to avoid the negative press, lest one of our members throws a shoe at me for bumping their diary post from the list.
Oh well, let me serve as a shining example of what not to do!
“There are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations.” — James Madison
“I swear by my life, and my love of it, that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine.”
Self-effacing humor will get you far here
civil truth (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 10:48AM EST (link)Welcome to RedState!
The greatest evil…is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clean, carpeted, warmed, and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voice. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the offices of a thoroughly nasty business concern. -C.S. Lewis
http://www.gmsplace.com/
JLenardDetroit (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 11:00AM EST (link)Topics and the amount of actual discussion traffic to warrant a diary… often the eye of the beholder… I have seen some much shorter diaries (even on FP) than this (often of duplicate of other diary content)… this is unique/different!
Regards from NoMoTown (the MOTORlessCITY)
“Liberals, looking to do for? America what they’ve done for? Detroit! which is DESTROY IT!”
“I think, therefore I am Conservative”
“Conservative by choice, Republican by necessity”
“You can lead a Liberal to the Truth/Facts, but you cannot make them THINK!”
“Romney [No, not my first choice] does NOT have a MORMON problem. He has a, far too many Americans; these days; are MORONS problem!”
Follow @JLenardDetroit
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Heil “O” Hell No Obamao is NOT MY PRESIDENT! “No U won’t”
I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
“The first Liberal was Satan” – a Rush caller (other Quotes)
Whoosh
Neil Stevens (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 11:51AM EST (link)Front Page articles don’t bump diaries off the front page.
And this isn’t up for debate. The diaries section is not for short works of little effort. Period.
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JLenardDetroit (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 11:00AM EST (link)Topics and the amount of actual discussion traffic to warrant a diary… often the eye of the beholder… I have seen some much shorter diaries (even on FP) than this (often of duplicate of other diary content)… this is unique/different!
Regards from NoMoTown (the MOTORlessCITY)
“Liberals, looking to do for? America what they’ve done for? Detroit! which is DESTROY IT!”
“I think, therefore I am Conservative”
“Conservative by choice, Republican by necessity”
“You can lead a Liberal to the Truth/Facts, but you cannot make them THINK!”
“Romney [No, not my first choice] does NOT have a MORMON problem. He has a, far too many Americans; these days; are MORONS problem!”
Follow @JLenardDetroit
(RS:Help) (JLD) (Hollyweird) (Brain-deads) (SPIN-cycle) (Obamaocare) (Party of kNOw) (Conservatism) (TEApeats) (respectful) (message) (Warning: Children Will Die!!)
Heil “O” Hell No Obamao is NOT MY PRESIDENT! “No U won’t”
I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
“The first Liberal was Satan” – a Rush caller (other Quotes)
I watched it.
gekster (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 1:09PM EST (link)Do you have stock in Skittle?
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
Ok folks, 2012 is here. Get involved
Bush Haters
Greg (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 10:35AM EST (link)Reminded me of all the Bush Haters over past 8 years. They just can’t stop wining!
Is that the same bunny that attacked Carter???....;^)....n/t
Attack Mode (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 11:02AM EST (link)fo sho no text here!!
“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper” Peter Griffin…Family Guy
conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!
Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.
How do you think it made the front page of RedState?
Leon H. Wolf (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 11:04AM EST (link)————
We can’t stop here. This is bat country.
site question for Neil
E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 11:49AM EST (link)How high up on the to-do list is the rotation of RecList diaries? Not that we don’t all love us some Mike Becker and Jaded (and we SO do).
Mainly I was just wondering how soon we could get the NightTwister filter in place? Ricky has managed to slip one in there, in spite of my own mightiest efforts. Aside to NT – [yep, I still think green looks good on me]
Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
Punch the Hippies h/t IMAO
Pretty high
Neil Stevens (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 11:52AM EST (link)It’s below the little polish issues that keep coming up though, and various bugfixes. For example: Preventing title-less comments and diaries comes first.
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Cool
E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 12:04PM EST (link)yeah, the title-less comments/diaries are a particular annoyance, as you cant click on them and scold them for having ….title-less comments/diaries!
Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
Punch the Hippies h/t IMAO
Ouch. That made my brain hurt. [nt]
Bill S (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 12:06PM EST (link).
“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins
And because it's open thread..
E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 11:52AM EST (link)Pete, Prince of Darkness has a PSA for all you people who LIKE 27-degree, sleeting weather…
<!–
I.
Will.
Pwn.
You.–>
Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
Punch the Hippies h/t IMAO
"I want global Warming...."
speciallist (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 11:59AM EST (link)…if it starts to get really cold…..I swear I’ll end it…..don’t come any closer!!!!!
the pic is not showing...i'll try again..
speciallist (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 12:02PM EST (link)Here...."I swear dont come any closer!"....I think we killed the joke EPU
speciallist (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 12:04PM EST (link)Which, of course, recalls this:
Steve Maley (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 12:47PM EST (link)The blogger formerly known as ‘Vladimir’.
Pete's alot more intimidating
E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 12:00PM EST (link)when not wearing his invisible suit.
<!–
I.
Will.
Pwn.
You.–>
Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
Punch the Hippies h/t IMAO
Because I am a textbook OCD guy...
E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 12:01PM EST (link)I gotta go till I get it right…
I.
Will.
Pwn.
You.
Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
Punch the Hippies h/t IMAO
Me and you are epic failing...
speciallist (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 12:03PM EST (link)lol
It would be more amusing to watch
E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 12:05PM EST (link)If we weren’t us. LOL!
Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
Punch the Hippies h/t IMAO
amusing indeed...
Attack Mode (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 12:15PM EST (link)I will chalk the epic failure to karma…;^)
“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper” Peter Griffin…Family Guy
conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!
Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.
No doubt
E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 12:32PM EST (link);o)
Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
Punch the Hippies h/t IMAO
Oh it is indeed amusing :-0
JadedByPolitics (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 12:27PM EST (link)nt
Unified Patriots – How-To:
Activists Taking Action
A ton of bad news and the market went meh
Alberta (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 12:19PM EST (link)Well, it had gone meh. As Im writing this the DOWs up about 100 points.
So I keep getting told one of the things I should look for when trying to determine a point to get back into the market is that when a lot of bad news surfaces, the market doesnt do anything. Are we at that point? I certaintly dont know, Im just saying what Im seeing.
Sir, my concern is not whether God is on our side; my greatest concern is to be on God’s side, for God is always right.
Abraham Lincoln
It's time to tentatively test the waters
Vegas_Rick (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 1:04PM EST (link)Look for stocks with relative strenght. Stocks that have held up better than the braoder market. McDonald’s and Walmart are two such stocks. The theory here is that stocks that held up in the crash will rocket when things get better.
The key word is tentative. Don’t dive in.
“God is great, beer is good and people are crazy.”- Billy Currington
“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan ‘press on’ has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.” Calvin Coolidge.
"Vegas"
olsmithie (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 1:35PM EST (link)Absolutely no disrespect intended ,Rick, but does anyone else see the humor in stock advice from a person,(albeit a fine individual), with Vegas in their screen name?
Best Regards!
In times like this, Ill go with 'house money'
Alberta (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 1:51PM EST (link)Honestly, I think Id do better at the blackjack table then trying to pick out and find a real winner. Ive been playing the ‘yo-yo’ DOW for the last month, but like Rick said, I havent dived in.
I did find Johnson and Johnson which Im sure some people already knew about. Theyve only lost like 10%
.
Sir, my concern is not whether God is on our side; my greatest concern is to be on God’s side, for God is always right.
Abraham Lincoln
J&J, exactly
Vegas_Rick (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 2:47PM EST (link)A defensive stock with good relative strength. Good pick.
“God is great, beer is good and people are crazy.”- Billy Currington
“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan ‘press on’ has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.” Calvin Coolidge.
olsmithie
Vegas_Rick (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 2:46PM EST (link)LOL! I thought about that when I hit the submit button.
“God is great, beer is good and people are crazy.”- Billy Currington
“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan ‘press on’ has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.” Calvin Coolidge.
It is always a good time to get back in
zuiko (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 2:33PM EST (link)By the time we know the bulls are back it will be too late and you’ll miss out on a good chunk of the gains. I have a long term horizon and am content to sit on anything so long as I still believe it’s a good business and will be able to survive through the downturn.
I don’t try to time the market. There are plenty of much better qualified people already trying to do that, without much success, I might add.
Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. – Milton Friedman
Neil I have a site question...
Attack Mode (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 12:42PM EST (link)Where can I find the html tutorials that BS had in his sig line? The links to http://archive.redstate.com/blogs/neil_stevens/2007/aug/12/html_help_central no longer work?
“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper” Peter Griffin…Family Guy
conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!
Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.
Additionally Neil....
Attack Mode (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 12:58PM EST (link)I used to have RedHot access, how do I post to RedHot now?
“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper” Peter Griffin…Family Guy
conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!
Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.
That's not supported yet
Neil Stevens (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 1:06PM EST (link)Erick started handing out freestanding Red Hot access only after I specced RS 4. So please be patient.
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Ok Neil that is cool...
Attack Mode (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 1:08PM EST (link)I have a rather short diary that I don’t want to get deleted by Leon that I intended to be a RedHot….should I just make a note in the diary so it doesn’t get deleted?
“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper” Peter Griffin…Family Guy
conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!
Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.
And a Kowalski...
Attack Mode (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 1:09PM EST (link)I got my RedHot at the same time as Skanderbeg, so why is his supported and mine isn’t?
“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper” Peter Griffin…Family Guy
conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!
Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.
Because Skanderbeg has been made a full contributor (nt)
Neil Stevens (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 1:13PM EST (link),
RS contributing editor, technical administrator, and “a hardy variety of crabgrass.”
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ok Neil...so...
Attack Mode (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 1:15PM EST (link)should I put a note so iy doesn’t get deleted?
“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper” Peter Griffin…Family Guy
conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!
Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.
Please just use Open Threads until we get that settled
Neil Stevens (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 1:20PM EST (link)I’ll tell Erick when it’s ready and he’ll let you all know who are meant to have special Red Hot access.
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I will take my chances on it being a full diary...
Attack Mode (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 1:24PM EST (link)it’s not really a open thread type of post….thanks anyways.
“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper” Peter Griffin…Family Guy
conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!
Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.
I thought he was going to feast on the bunny.
Jim Tomasik (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 2:09PM EST (link)A bunny is much better tasting than candy.
They’re so cuddly and yet even better to eat.
One important thing people
Neil Stevens (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 2:32PM EST (link)If you email me for support, you have to give me your username.
I can’t do anything without your username.
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Have you received you 30% Property Tax reduction yet?!?!
JLenardDetroit (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 5:15PM EST (link)Do you have a Property Tax levied against your Property based on its “Value?”
Finally, today on FOXnews Neil Cavuto had someone on (was unable to find video to link to yet) discussing what I have been whining about since CRA discussions, especially around the Election time…. That while Taxing authorities are very quick to try and raise the value of your Property in order to drive the Taxes you pay upwards (to increase the funds they have to play with) they WILL NOT just voluntarily lower them despite whole areas of the Nation having had Property Values drop 30%. Finally someone else, and in a position to get the notion across to many more people than I could here at RedState, is reminding folks that you have options!! The time is NOW to go and file an appeal on the stated value of your Property to lower your Tax burden!
Get a new appraisal, if need be, in the long run the money you save in taxes will cover that cost…
Go to your County (or other Taxing authority) and get any paperwork in person…
Don’t accept their first rejection (they don’t want to lower anyones taxes), file an appeal…
Get this done BEFORE your next Property tax bill comes due
If paying your Taxes, put “PAID IN PROTEST” in the memo field of your Check (according to the expert on Cavuto) before or during your dispute period…
Background….
We continue to hear about how Property values have fallen upwards of 30% across the Country. Little discussed, was how Democrats rejoiced at the CRA affects on local Municipality revenues as Property values ballooned and Tax revenues went up, allowing them (in turn) to ramp up their wasteful spending!! They didn’t care whether people could afford the homes, or risk to Banks, how it was pricing still others out of the Market, etc… as long as they got their Tax Revenues based on the OVER-INFLATED RATES!
Now that Property values are down WHERE ARE THE PROPERTY ADJUSTMENTS!?!?! Each State is different, but most States that have a Property Tax have some mechanisms by which you can CHALLENGE your “Fair Market Value” of your home and therefore the amount of Taxes owed annually. You are most likely due a REBATE – well, at least a reduction.
GO DEMAND (well maybe not demand, ask nicely) YOUR 30% PROPERTY TAX REDUCTION!
Regards from NoMoTown (the MOTORlessCITY)
“Liberals, looking to do for? America what they’ve done for? Detroit! which is DESTROY IT!”
“I think, therefore I am Conservative”
“Conservative by choice, Republican by necessity”
“You can lead a Liberal to the Truth/Facts, but you cannot make them THINK!”
“Romney [No, not my first choice] does NOT have a MORMON problem. He has a, far too many Americans; these days; are MORONS problem!”
Follow @JLenardDetroit
(RS:Help) (JLD) (Hollyweird) (Brain-deads) (SPIN-cycle) (Obamaocare) (Party of kNOw) (Conservatism) (TEApeats) (respectful) (message) (Warning: Children Will Die!!)
Heil “O” Hell No Obamao is NOT MY PRESIDENT! “No U won’t”
I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
“The first Liberal was Satan” – a Rush caller (other Quotes)
.Remember Red State this giving season
JLenardDetroit (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 6:04PM EST (link).Remember Red State this giving season
Regards from NoMoTown (the MOTORlessCITY)
“Liberals, looking to do for? America what they’ve done for? Detroit! which is DESTROY IT!”
“I think, therefore I am Conservative”
“Conservative by choice, Republican by necessity”
“You can lead a Liberal to the Truth/Facts, but you cannot make them THINK!”
“Romney [No, not my first choice] does NOT have a MORMON problem. He has a, far too many Americans; these days; are MORONS problem!”
Follow @JLenardDetroit
(RS:Help) (JLD) (Hollyweird) (Brain-deads) (SPIN-cycle) (Obamaocare) (Party of kNOw) (Conservatism) (TEApeats) (respectful) (message) (Warning: Children Will Die!!)
Heil “O” Hell No Obamao is NOT MY PRESIDENT! “No U won’t”
I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
“The first Liberal was Satan” – a Rush caller (other Quotes)
I have a Diary question. . .
wag (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 8:40PM EST (link)Should my toons be done on an Open Thread so they won’t push down anyone else’s Diary?
Thanks.