“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
Benjamin Franklin
In late May, property owners in Cedar Falls, Iowa had their city government vote (6 to 1) in the second of three votes (the third vote will be held on Monday) to force owners to place lock boxes on their property giving the Fire Department access.
The lock boxes are located on the outside of a building, and keys to gain entry are located inside the safe-like box. The fire department keeps a master key and can use it to gain entry when an alarm goes off or during a fire.
The ordinance saw little resistance when it was first adopted in 2004 and had only Councilman Nick Taiber argue against the update when the first reading passed two weeks ago.
But on Monday, Taiber was joined by five citizens who protested the lock box provisions, saying it was an expense government was forcing on property owners and an invasion of privacy.
Kyle Baker cited quotes from Ben Franklin and Thomas Jefferson in questioning whether ease of acccess should be worth the loss of freedom for property owners.
While a version of the ordinance passed in 2004, it required the boxes for commercial buildings and apartment buildings with six or more units. The new ordinance now would require lock boxes for buildings with three or more apartments.
While the council members tried to allay concerns that they keys could not be abused or stolen and that it is not intended for private homes (except for the renters of apartments, that is), property owners were vocalized their displeasure.
Here is a video of the council meeting:
If the measure passes on Monday, it will become law and Cedar Falls will be a little more safe–and a little less free.
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Why, oh why
Deskpilot (Diary) Sunday, June 12th at 8:20AM EST (link)can’t government get it through their collective head, and understand the basic tenant that they continually impoeded liberty.
The local government might rather have made it a VOLUNTARY program with some incentives attached, say, a 1/2% reduction of business taxes for participating owners.
EVERY government program is subject to abuse and fraud.
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It isn't just government's fault
BigRedConservative (Diary) Sunday, June 12th at 8:36AM EST (link)The disregard for liberty is an ingrained problem embedded in society by “progressives” to facilitate their thefts of liberty. If we want to end this sort of stuff, we’ve got to change the view of society
And two and two always makes a five
It’s the devil’s way now
There is no way out
You can scream and you can shout
It is too late now
Radiohead
It goes further than that BigRed
gpclaw Sunday, June 12th at 8:56AM EST (link)As a society, we seem willing to grant the authorities leeway in areas of public safety. When we grant the government authority to make only minor encroachments on liberty, we are giving the thumbs up to any broader encroachments that come with the eventual expansion of that power.
The time for the residents of Cedar Falls, was back in 2004. No doubt, the members of the community probably paid the issue no mind, because the ordinance applied to others, and not to themselves.
The power of government is black and white. What the government has the authority to do to others today, they have the authority to do to you in the future.
Yep, that's what we need, the Fire Department
Tbone (Diary) Sunday, June 12th at 9:19AM EST (link)trying to find the right key as opposed to just busting down the door.
This just proves that the majority of people who run for office are idiots.
Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.
What's next . . .
boonerdan (Diary) Sunday, June 12th at 9:29AM EST (link)What’s next, the quartering of law enforcement or military in our homes? Any American who supports or adheres to this should be ashamed of themselves and should not be allowed to call themselves an American! The sheep keep lining up for the slaughter.
I thought this was the master key
partyof1 Sunday, June 12th at 10:01AM EST (link)If I’m on fire, I’m ok with the FD breaking down my door.
More than just firefighting services
Deskpilot (Diary) Sunday, June 12th at 11:39AM EST (link)To a major extent, remember that Fire Department now employ paramedics for medical assistance. In a simple case of, “Help, I’ve fallen and I can’t get up,” (R), or a heart attack, the destruction of a door for acces could be seen as overkill. For a raging fire, yeah, Master Key as above is FINE w/ me.
In concept, the idea isn’t necessarily a bad one, but it’s definitely a ‘slippery slope.’
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City Council votes Welcome Mat law for Fire Dept.
johnt Sunday, June 12th at 10:11AM EST (link)Coffee, soft drinks, finger sandwiches & cookies mandatory. Sleep over provisions, bathroom privileges and financial consideration for Department inconvenience, also to be required.
Bowing and other forms of supplication will not be required Mayor states, “after all, we are a free country”.
“a man’s admiration for absolute government is proportinate to the contempt he feels for those around him”. Tocqueville
hmm
freemanja1991 (Diary) Sunday, June 12th at 10:27AM EST (link)Cedar Falls is a liberal college town, but a couple of those members might loose their election on Novemember 8th.
Creepy
determined Sunday, June 12th at 10:35AM EST (link)Just creepy! It does matter what a large part of the population thinks. It will particularly matter when election time comes around.
Very convenient
cirby Sunday, June 12th at 10:57AM EST (link)Now, the criminals only have to steal one key, one time, to have free access to every apartment and business in town.
Lovely.
Even more so those no knock warrants might be easier to execute...
anotherindyfilmguy (Diary) Sunday, June 12th at 5:10PM EST (link)Once the keys are out there anyone can use them…
the SWAT team at 4:00AM or thieves, or worse…
Santorum? Well, at least he’s not Romney…
http://www.zazzle.com/enemy_of_the_statist_tshirt-235977043035297478
An easy solution....
jiminga Sunday, June 12th at 11:13AM EST (link)Before retiring I was involved with operatiog some rather large retail chains and whenever this issue arose we simply put a old unused key in the lockbox. Lots better than fighting city hall and raising suspicions about firefighters’ integrity.
If you notice, ALL of the recent assaults on us are for our own good
renny (Diary) Sunday, June 12th at 12:07PM EST (link)either through health (or medical care) or safety (where helmets, yadda) and if we keep accepting those propositions, the redistributionists will NEVER have an end of ways to help us get improved by progressive standards.
Common sense from long ago...
johnstoirvin (Diary) Monday, June 13th at 1:09PM EST (link)“I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the
pretense of taking care of them.” –Thomas Jefferson
'scuse me
renny (Diary) Sunday, June 12th at 12:08PM EST (link)“wear helmets”–it comes from teaching too many students who think green is grene.
lock it up.....no you lock it up
pantera Sunday, June 12th at 12:17PM EST (link)if 1 master key goes missing does everyone then have to change their lock?
I'm ok with them breaking my window.
ronaldbeebe Monday, June 13th at 7:29AM EST (link)Not too long ago, our local state prison lost track of a set of keys. They claimed it was only to the admin areas and no prisoner security was compromised. (I hope they were right). According to my neighbor (who is an officer there), the loss was treated very cavalierly. If one arm of the government can have a problem with key control, they all can.
Gives new meaning to "key to the city"
standingonthewall Sunday, June 12th at 1:02PM EST (link)If this is not insanity…??
I think my city had a better version
blogan2 Sunday, June 12th at 7:00PM EST (link)I think it was, “If you want, you can give us a key and we’ll use it if your alarm goes off. It the alarm goes off and we don’t have a key, we’ll just break a window. Your choice.”
History keeps repeating
pgrossjr Monday, June 13th at 8:30AM EST (link)“Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety” – Benjamin Franklin
Can't see the forest for the trees? You can't see the trees. . .
twiny1 Monday, June 13th at 10:42AM EST (link)Wisconsin court upholds GPS tracking by police. . .
Michigan’s ‘Financial Martial Law’ in Action – Benton Harbor Emergency Manager Strips Power from Elected Officials. . .
Both fought for by republican administrations, both egregious violations of our constitutional rights, both apparently fine with the republicans that supported them. . .
You conservatives were utterly unconcerned with the Bush presidency that gave itself unlimited powers in an unlimited war: the power to seize citizens and non-citizens at will without due process under emergency laws, the power to torture victims to procure rationales for future warfare and retroactive casus belli, and the power to ransack anyone’s private property. You were all oh, so blind to these tactics used to circumvent the constitution because they were essential for national security.
Now you’re here squalling over whether or not the fire dept. should have a key for multi dwelling buildings.
You people have no common sense. . .
The
gunslingr45 Monday, June 13th at 11:50AM EST (link)people you refer to on here troll are not the same ones you describe. We here at redstate know them as RINO’s or dem lite as some call them.
So if your just looking to pick a fight, go pick your nose instead. You will get more for your effort.
So many RINO’s, so little time.
WHAT?
gunslingr45 Monday, June 13th at 11:46AM EST (link)Does their ax and feet not work anymore?