From the diaries by Jeff
Let me be the first to congratulate Representative Paul Broun to be the first to fire a shot at the Obama Agenda! Damn proud to be a Georgian! Congressman Broun points to the “civilian security force” as examples of his agenda and how it follows Marxist principles. He even takes it a step farther to remind people of how Hitler came to power and what Nazi Germany was like for the Germans:
Broun cited a July speech by Obama that has circulated on the Internet in which the then-Democratic presidential candidate called for a civilian force to take some of the national security burden off the military.
“That’s exactly what Hitler did in Nazi Germany and it’s exactly what the Soviet Union did,” Broun said. “When he’s proposing to have a national security force that’s answering to him, that is as strong as the U.S. military, he’s showing me signs of being Marxist.”
So we have some rhetoric that will be called “over the top” and “outrageous”. But we need men willing to step out there and get some media attention to them. And those in safe seats are just the candidates for it. So the Guerrilla Congress begins its shots at the Dear Leader’s Agenda and the best that one of the Simpletons comes up with is how “stupid” Governor Sarah Palin is? Come on.
Oh, here are Dear Leader’s comments about his “civilian security force”:
Dear Leader speaks: “We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set,” Obama said in July. “We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.”
Sorry but I see this talk as exactly what we need to keep people reminded of just how left the Dear Leader really is. We have people in Topeka ready to make national holiday for Dear Leader.
FIGHT ON!
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Thank you for posting this.
Kenny Solomon (Diary) Monday, November 10th at 10:50PM EST (link)I was hoping someone from Georgia would do the deed.
Saw the run up about two hours ago and was waiting……waiting……waiting.
Cheers to Rep. Broun !
The MSM Will Scream About This Extremism, but...
Wubbies World (Diary) Monday, November 10th at 10:57PM EST (link)…they will not mention one bit about how accurate the analogy is to the truth.
It takes people who have the courage to stand up to those who would do us harm.
Let us pray that their resolve does not fade. It will take us to encourage them and reassure them that they are right.
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I'll bet one of the guys on his litle "security force"
Jack_Savage (Diary) Monday, November 10th at 11:06PM EST (link)Will be the guy with the nightstick at the polling place in Philly.
I have busted down scary guys than...
izoneguy (Diary) Monday, November 10th at 11:16PM EST (link)…the knight stick wieniee.
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
But of course...
Kudzu (Diary) Monday, November 10th at 11:23PM EST (link)We take a special pride in our politicians who can raise a stink of something (no mentions of Cynthia McKinney… please). But he’s the Congressman from that same district I believe. Its going to have to take some guts to say this stuff or else we won’t get noticed because the Propaganda Department (i.e. MSM) will be in full bore against the Republicans.
Oh here’s Jittery Leg himself:
I find it odd he said “you can’t question motive… worst thing you can do in journalism”. Oh that’s right, you’re not a journalist, you’re an commentator and now Minister of Propaganda and Information Department:
It always did take two of you to take down one of me. – Jo Bob Priddy, North Dallas Forty.
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Michael DeWeese (Diary) Monday, November 10th at 11:25PM EST (link)Brain Dead Republican
STOP OBAMA'S SOCIALISM
Freedoms Truth (Diary) Tuesday, November 11th at 12:23AM EST (link)That’s the label I am using.
I know it ticks off the Dems, because they STOLE my Stop obama Socialism yard signs from my yard and from a dozen precincts on election day.
Like “DRILL HERE, DRILL NOW” the phrase “STOP OBAMA’S SOCIALISM” is a simple moniker that says it all.
If not us to stand up and stop Obama, then who?
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Perhaps he's worried about phenomena like...
Jeff Emanuel (Diary) Tuesday, November 11th at 10:43AM EST (link)…this
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Civilian Security Force
Whitehorse (Diary) Tuesday, November 11th at 12:31PM EST (link)This is the most disturbing thing I’ve heard from Obama – not sure if he’s serious or sent this out as a feeler, or “play fake” or what.
If it actually is proposed, I would fight this as no need for an American Gestapo.
Broun's rhetoric unhelpful
Bird Dog (Diary) Tuesday, November 11th at 12:49PM EST (link)I can’t remember how many times we criticized the Left for invoking Hitler when it came to Bush, but now we have a promoted diary pushing the same thing. I don’t see how this hyperbole is helpful at all.
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Kudzu (Diary) Tuesday, November 11th at 12:49PM EST (link)That is all…
Still waiting on the backlash to Rep. Broun, soon to be my new Congressman when I move to the area. This “security force” just sounds wrong on every front and I’m with Whitehorse, fight it on every front and in every way. Nothing good could come from a separate force with funding on par with the military… We’ve seen that before too, several third world countries have a national police force that has armored vehicles and weaponry on par with the military.
It always did take two of you to take down one of me. – Jo Bob Priddy, North Dallas Forty.
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Lapdogs...
Kudzu (Diary) Tuesday, November 11th at 12:59PM EST (link)It was said in some other diary but the “diamond is in the mud”. We have to get dirty too and we’re going to have to become the pig: we’ll have to like it. Why is it the left gets the monopoly on attention getting rhetoric while we just say “that’s not fair!”?
Come on. We have to fight back and when Dear Leader gives us such a perfect issue we have to take it. That pitch is just too good not to swing at even if the count is 0-3. We don’t need lapdogs in Congress… we need fighters.
This “civilian security force” is a bad idea and the Congressman hit it on the head when he compares it to Hitler’s brownshirts and the Nazis when they came into power. What should he’d of said? Some more benign rhetoric about socialism where its apparent that a great deal of Dear Leader’s supporters do not know what Marxism is? No no no. Enough is enough.
It always did take two of you to take down one of me. – Jo Bob Priddy, North Dallas Forty.
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Charles, you forget that W never proposed an idea
janis (Diary) Tuesday, November 11th at 1:02PM EST (link)like the one that Rep. Broun is talking about. What you read here is not unhelpful rhetoric, it is the honest concerns of citizens of this country who are watching our freedoms being eroded right before our eyes.
Disapprove all you want, but what is your take on Obama’s nice little domestic army?
Well...
zroxx (Diary) Tuesday, November 11th at 1:13PM EST (link)Sounds good if you want (R)’s to carry forward with “we use dirty alarmist rhetoric but probably not as much as those other guys do”.
What Broun should have done is calmly explain any number of reasons why such a program would be a net negative for American citizens: expense, redundancy, potential for corruption (good grief, we have enough problems with our increasingly militarized police departments), etc etc. He could have made a very convincing argument without invoking terms like socialism and sounded like a thoughtful and analytical statesman.
Instead he made himself sound like (D)’s who have used similar rhetoric. Oh ok, maybe not quite as bad as them, yeah, run on that one in 2010, not quite as bad, good luck.
Run on Rhethoric?
Kudzu (Diary) Tuesday, November 11th at 1:59PM EST (link)We don’t have to but its obvious that it works. But getting attention to issues is going to be tough between now and 2010 and we’re going to need to do that. When Congressman Broun gets asked about the comments he can then explain in detail why its a bad idea, what it means, what the complexities are. But his calm and well thought out comments would get lost on CSPAN-8 The Ocho if he wasn’t a little flamboyant in this opening salvo.
We have a Guerrilla Congress. They can’t hit the Dems head on because their voting bloc is too small and its two years till the next election. They have to make sharp, pinpoint attacks that sting and leave bruises. We may not win every fight but we’re going to let them know they’ve been in one. That’s the mindset our Guerrilla Congress and frankly every American who voted against Obama needs to have.
It always did take two of you to take down one of me. – Jo Bob Priddy, North Dallas Forty.
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Another take
Kudzu (Diary) Tuesday, November 11th at 4:39PM EST (link)On the Representative Broun comments from Patriot Room.
It always did take two of you to take down one of me. – Jo Bob Priddy, North Dallas Forty.
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My take
fanshaw Wednesday, November 12th at 12:44AM EST (link)My take, after watching the entire Youtube video of the speech in question, not just the 20 seconds posted here, is that Obama was talking about the Peace Corp, Ameri-corp, the foreign service and other civilian agencies of the government. And because he believes that these agencies, working around the world, create a positive image of the US abroad. jusPeople who feel that the US is a force for good in the world will not attack it, thus enhancing security.
It seems unlikely to me that Obama would mention some new secret police force into a speech about volunteerism and public service for young people.
I’m no expert, but I don’t think Hitler mentioned the Gestapo in any of his election speeches.
Well...
zroxx (Diary) Wednesday, November 12th at 12:49AM EST (link)But getting attention to issues is going to be tough between now and 2010 and we’re going to need to do that. When Congressman Broun gets asked about the comments he can then explain in detail why its a bad idea, what it means, what the complexities are.
It’s going to be relatively easy to find policies forwarded by 44 and a (D) congress that are in the “limelight” (getting attention) and which should be opposed. Take the last bail-out, (R)’s had all sorts of opportunities to get a message out there about why this was a bad idea. But given the floor, they instead chose to echo (D)’s (and 43) calls for immediate action, crisis, do something, now now now! They had the floor, they blew it.
They have to make sharp, pinpoint attacks that sting and leave bruises.
For this to work you’ve got to give people the information. I suspect what people heard from Broun boiled down to “Obama = Nazi” and at that point they turned him off. What they could have heard was a direct explanation of why such a policy should be avoided in two or three easily consumable bullet points which would have had the side benefit of communicating some aspect(s) of conservative governing philosophy.
Its not about volunteering
Kudzu (Diary) Wednesday, November 12th at 1:45AM EST (link)Obama was referring to a “civilian security force” that would rival the military in funding, equipment, and personnel. I don’t know but that sounds an awful lot like “national police force” or something else. I’m not a black helicopter kind of guy and I don’t think he’s on track to make an American Gestapo but when you mention this stuff, what’s the reaction supposed to be?
Joy?
It always did take two of you to take down one of me. – Jo Bob Priddy, North Dallas Forty.
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Not everyone voted for the Bailout
Kudzu (Diary) Wednesday, November 12th at 1:51AM EST (link)I agree that he should have articulated the point better but he would never of gotten the attention if he didn’t say what he actually came out with. Hyperbole works in many occasions but, I agree with you, it must include specifics. Ann Coluter makes great books for a living because of this and is able to drive home a point using an extreme.
I look forward to more to come in all this.
It always did take two of you to take down one of me. – Jo Bob Priddy, North Dallas Forty.
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Bad case of projection
Bird Dog (Diary) Wednesday, November 12th at 10:42PM EST (link)Obama’s comments about a civilian national security force needs a lot more explanation, but to immediately jump to a conclusion that likens Obama to Hitler is unhelpful and unsupported. Broun seems pretty aware that he crossed the line, saying that he regretted making those remarks (cite).
In principle, I disagree that we have to get just as dirty as the Democrats. If we have the facts and the better arguments on our side (which we do), then we shouldn’t have to resort to slimeball politics. Two wrongs don’t make a right. There is plenty of material out there for taking Obama to task. We shouldn’t have to make wild ass projections that undermine our own credibility in the process.
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