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	<title>Comments on: Gun Show Review &#8211; West Springfield, MA</title>
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		<title>By: kowalski</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/kowalski/2009/10/11/gun-show-review-west-springfield-ma/#comment-486</link>
		<dc:creator>kowalski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even in the &quot;clunkified&quot; MA-compliant version it&#039;s a really desirable gun.  Big kudos to Sig Sauer for producing one that I can buy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even in the &#8220;clunkified&#8221; MA-compliant version it&#8217;s a really desirable gun.  Big kudos to Sig Sauer for producing one that I can buy.</p>
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		<title>By: kowalski</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/kowalski/2009/10/11/gun-show-review-west-springfield-ma/#comment-485</link>
		<dc:creator>kowalski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, there were a good assortment of smaller, concealed-carry pistols for sale, at the show but many of them were laughably small calibers and most of them were used.  The reason for that is simple:  Massachusetts Attorney General and Product Safety Commissions have not certified many small pistols for sale in MA.  A lot of manufacturers stopped trying to jump through their twin sets of hoops and destroy several guns in the process for an uncertain return.

There are a couple of notable exceptions:  S&amp;W is making some very nice MA-compliant small revolvers, under 12-13 ounces, for personal defense.  Really nice little guns. Seecamp makes an MA-compliant .32, and very, very recently Kahr Arms (!!) redesigned the PM-9 to finally convince the State to let it be sold here.  That required adding a loaded chamber indicator, external safety lever, and a few other things to a very cleanly-designed gun, but I&#039;ll take it.  This gun is going to sell for nearly $1,000 but it will (to my knowledge) be the first really state-of-the-art 9mm CCW you can buy here.

If you&#039;d like to see how limited the choices are here in MA, click here.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fsguns.com/fsg_information.html&quot;&gt;The list of guns you cannot buy in Massachusetts is very long.  Even New Jersey is better in that respect.&lt;/a&gt;  Of course, since the law was passed effectively banning  all these guns (or discouraging their manufacturers from certifying them) crime has gone up here in the Commonwealth -- in many areas quite dramatically.

I bought my 4040PD because it was a good compromise at a good price, even thoguh it was used.  

The upshot at the show was that most of the small guns that would really be useful for concealed carry and personal defense, particularly for women, were not NIB.  There are absolutely ** no ** Kel-Tec handguns to be had in this state, and Ruger hasn&#039;t even tried to homologate its new .380, which I would really like to have.

I will save my pennies, nickels and dimes and buy an &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kahr.com/PA-1_9mm_pm.html&quot;&gt;MA-compliant Kahr PM9&lt;/a&gt; when they become available.  (YES -- MSRP is over $900, dealer price will probably match or exceed that for a while, compared to a new Ruger .380 ACP anywhere in the world except MA at about $350-400 -- it&#039;s sickening).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, there were a good assortment of smaller, concealed-carry pistols for sale, at the show but many of them were laughably small calibers and most of them were used.  The reason for that is simple:  Massachusetts Attorney General and Product Safety Commissions have not certified many small pistols for sale in MA.  A lot of manufacturers stopped trying to jump through their twin sets of hoops and destroy several guns in the process for an uncertain return.</p>
<p>There are a couple of notable exceptions:  S&amp;W is making some very nice MA-compliant small revolvers, under 12-13 ounces, for personal defense.  Really nice little guns. Seecamp makes an MA-compliant .32, and very, very recently Kahr Arms (!!) redesigned the PM-9 to finally convince the State to let it be sold here.  That required adding a loaded chamber indicator, external safety lever, and a few other things to a very cleanly-designed gun, but I&#8217;ll take it.  This gun is going to sell for nearly $1,000 but it will (to my knowledge) be the first really state-of-the-art 9mm CCW you can buy here.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;d like to see how limited the choices are here in MA, click here.  <a href="http://www.fsguns.com/fsg_information.html">The list of guns you cannot buy in Massachusetts is very long.  Even New Jersey is better in that respect.</a>  Of course, since the law was passed effectively banning  all these guns (or discouraging their manufacturers from certifying them) crime has gone up here in the Commonwealth &#8212; in many areas quite dramatically.</p>
<p>I bought my 4040PD because it was a good compromise at a good price, even thoguh it was used.  </p>
<p>The upshot at the show was that most of the small guns that would really be useful for concealed carry and personal defense, particularly for women, were not NIB.  There are absolutely ** no ** Kel-Tec handguns to be had in this state, and Ruger hasn&#8217;t even tried to homologate its new .380, which I would really like to have.</p>
<p>I will save my pennies, nickels and dimes and buy an <a href="http://www.kahr.com/PA-1_9mm_pm.html">MA-compliant Kahr PM9</a> when they become available.  (YES &#8212; MSRP is over $900, dealer price will probably match or exceed that for a while, compared to a new Ruger .380 ACP anywhere in the world except MA at about $350-400 &#8212; it&#8217;s sickening).</p>
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		<title>By: nessa</title>
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		<dc:creator>nessa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 06:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sunday&#039;s are slow days here too but still well above what you described.  The combination of the anti-gun atmosphere, Sunday, vendors leaving early and small turn-out would do it.  Word about turn out spreads among vendors.  At least you went and exercised our Second Amendment Rights, and thanks for the post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sunday&#8217;s are slow days here too but still well above what you described.  The combination of the anti-gun atmosphere, Sunday, vendors leaving early and small turn-out would do it.  Word about turn out spreads among vendors.  At least you went and exercised our Second Amendment Rights, and thanks for the post.</p>
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		<title>By: Lammo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lammo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 05:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a few weekends ago.  In Spokane we get about 5 or 6 shows per year.  Two are three day events and the others just two days.  I went through the whole show in barely an hour this last time even though my wife was out of town and I had cash in my pocket ( :-) ).  

This last show was very similar to the one you went to in MA - - lots of used stuff for which there may only be one customer and very little in the way of new guns.  The exception also seemed to be that there were a fair number of new rifles and shotguns.  There was only one dealer that had much variety in handguns and even his offerings are way down from past shows.  If you needed a part for an AR or an AK and couldn&#039;t find it there it probably doesn&#039;t exist (or isn&#039;t legal).  One good sign - - I stopped at the NRA table and the guy there said he&#039;d signed up about 35 new members that day (a Saturday).

So, just like yours, pretty boring and not much new to write home about (although even if I had $4,000 extra I don&#039;t think I could hide the .50 BMG rifle from my wife).  When I stop to wonder why I keep going I guess it&#039;s because I feel that if the attendance drops too far the promoter will quit bringing the shows in.  If I can help stall that day it&#039;s worth it.

P.S. - - If you can, get the SIG 556.  I just love mine.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a few weekends ago.  In Spokane we get about 5 or 6 shows per year.  Two are three day events and the others just two days.  I went through the whole show in barely an hour this last time even though my wife was out of town and I had cash in my pocket ( <img src='http://www.redstate.com/kowalski/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  ).  </p>
<p>This last show was very similar to the one you went to in MA &#8211; - lots of used stuff for which there may only be one customer and very little in the way of new guns.  The exception also seemed to be that there were a fair number of new rifles and shotguns.  There was only one dealer that had much variety in handguns and even his offerings are way down from past shows.  If you needed a part for an AR or an AK and couldn&#8217;t find it there it probably doesn&#8217;t exist (or isn&#8217;t legal).  One good sign &#8211; - I stopped at the NRA table and the guy there said he&#8217;d signed up about 35 new members that day (a Saturday).</p>
<p>So, just like yours, pretty boring and not much new to write home about (although even if I had $4,000 extra I don&#8217;t think I could hide the .50 BMG rifle from my wife).  When I stop to wonder why I keep going I guess it&#8217;s because I feel that if the attendance drops too far the promoter will quit bringing the shows in.  If I can help stall that day it&#8217;s worth it.</p>
<p>P.S. &#8211; - If you can, get the SIG 556.  I just love mine.  <img src='http://www.redstate.com/kowalski/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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