President Obama plans to charge wounded heroes for treatment. Illegal aliens get free treatment – why not veterans?
Barack Obama has found another way to pay for the mortgages that people don’t want to pay – charge wounded veterans for their medical treatment.
Others ways to look at:
- Obama is OK with tens of millions of illegal immigrants receiving free treatment in hospitals yet he is demanding that wounded veterans pay for their own treatment.
- Obama is just making up for all the federal income taxes that his cabinet appointees refused to pay.
- Obama needed to raise money to pay for all the Porkulus money that went to ACORN
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WASHINGTON, March 16 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/
– The leader of the nation’s largest veterans organization says he is “deeply disappointed and concerned” after a meeting with President Obama today to discuss a proposal to force private insurance companies to pay for the treatment of military veterans who have suffered service-connected disabilities and injuries. The Obama administration recently revealed a plan to require private insurance carriers to reimburse the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) in such cases.
“It became apparent during our discussion today that the President intends to move forward with this unreasonable plan,” said Commander David K. Rehbein of The American Legion. “He says he is looking to generate $540-million by this method, but refused to hear arguments about the moral and government-avowed obligations that would be compromised by it.”
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Meet Josh Beliell from Greenfield Indiana. This young man joined the military at age 27, six years after graduating from Purdue University and starting his career. He wanted to do something more and he joined the military in 2004 knowing full well that he would be heading off to combat. Josh lost both legs at the knee in an IED explosion in Iraq

Does anyone reading this story think Josh Beliell should pay for all of his treatment? Why would Obama put these men and women through all of this to save just $540 million? Couldn’t Obama just have demanded that Pelosi and Reid cut $540 million of earmarks out of one of their pork riddled bills? What is the Obama White House thinking?
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The title alone, makes this diary very well worth recommending
David123 (Diary) Monday, March 16th at 9:47PM EST (link)Giving illegal aliens better health care than veterans is a despicable idea.
David123
Its a great title...
liberalrepublican (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 5:44AM EST (link)But I don’t think its true.
I have never heard anything from Obama about giving illegals free health care.
I would love to see a link.
“Broadly speaking, liberalism emphasizes individual rights and equality of opportunity. … including extensive freedom of thought and speech, limitations on the power of governments, the rule of law, the free exchange of ideas, a market or mixed economy”
Link? check out an emergency room or free clinic.
Maggie_in_Indiana (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 9:21AM EST (link)Caleefornya is a good example or maybe NY city,perhaps your own home town? You don’t need a link to know that Obama/Pelosi are are going to make sure the poor immigrants get everything they have coming ,do you?
Maggie in Indiana
And vetrans can't go there?
liberalrepublican (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 11:48AM EST (link)I am trying to understand this. Would veterans be turned away at emergency rooms or free clinics?
The claim is that illegals are getting something that veterans can’t.
I still haven’t seen a link offered as proof.
“Broadly speaking, liberalism emphasizes individual rights and equality of opportunity. … including extensive freedom of thought and speech, limitations on the power of governments, the rule of law, the free exchange of ideas, a market or mixed economy”
You're being obtuse.
Achance (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 11:58AM EST (link)Vetrans (sic) can of course go to the ER, but they or the VA will ultimately pay. Illegals go and YOU and I pay.
In Vino Veritas
OK...
liberalrepublican (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 12:05PM EST (link)So the HL is total BS.
No problem.
“Broadly speaking, liberalism emphasizes individual rights and equality of opportunity. … including extensive freedom of thought and speech, limitations on the power of governments, the rule of law, the free exchange of ideas, a market or mixed economy”
Yeah, a vet missing both legs can go to an ER
Erick Brockway (Diary) Friday, March 20th at 4:26PM EST (link)for treatment, wait in line for treatment for his or her war injuries that were caused in the line of duty, then wait for the bill and toss it in the trash the way, yes, the way the illegal immigrants around here in my neighborhoods do.
But why the friggin hell should they?
Nice Changing the Argument around to require somebody show YOU proof that I’m sure you’re fully capable of searching yourself.
What about the MAIN subject? Capable of dealing with that?
Bad enough my guys come back torn up and have to deal with VA BS, you’d like them dealing with Collection Agencies too I suppose?
Seems your hero Obama does!
Screw your “Proof” requirements pal, come look in the ER any Friday of Sat night, and take your choice of hospitals in my county.
People like you give me a rash, maybe Obama will treat that for me free?
Hop in the Kayak with Kathleen, I’ll chip in extra to make it a 3 person ride.
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Aaron Gardner (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 12:05PM EST (link)If an illegal alien goes to the emergency room and does not have insurance they can still receive treatment and the govt picks up the check, because visits to the emergency rooms for illegals is covered by Medicaid. And I will not provide you a link…you should already be aware of this…go do your own homework.
The deal with the soldiers is that instead of combat related injuries being picked up in toto by the Federal Gov’t, the Obama Admin is wanting to charge the treatments to the soldiers health insurance, and make the soldiers pay the co-pay for those treatments.
So the illegal alien pays nothing…while the soldier has his pocket picked.
It is time for you to choose a side.
conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!
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The lying heathen.
itrytobenice (Diary) Monday, March 16th at 10:30PM EST (link)So much for ‘support the troops, not the war’ bull crap.
This little move will supposedly save about $540 million (with an m – you haven’t seen that word lately have you?) but we’ve got $900 million for Palestinian terrorists.
I really am beginning to hate him.
If congress doesn’t shoot this one down, there had better be a house cleaning in the mid-terms.
Proper grammar saves lives.
Let’s eat Grandma.
Let’s eat, Grandma.
The Left always spits on soldiers ...
thirteen28 (Diary) Monday, March 16th at 10:53PM EST (link)… Obama is just the latest.
What a ridiculously simplistic and self serving piece of crap comment
jadad Tuesday, March 17th at 12:06AM EST (link)NT
Truth Hurt, Bub? (nt)
IJB Tuesday, March 17th at 2:09AM EST (link)We need a top ten things
The Political Class (Diary) Monday, March 16th at 10:55PM EST (link)We should add to this post a “Top ten earmarks that cost Veterans their healthcare”
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Given my "puny" column (link provided) I will do two other top tens
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Monday, March 16th at 11:29PM EST (link)Actual outrages treated with yawns by dems and the press:
Obama’s refusal to laud the troops for success in Iraq
Obama’s treatment of the military as just another government program
Obama’s treatment of the troops as dependent victims deserving of pity
Obama’s lack of enough pity to pay for wounds of the troops incurred defending his freedom
Obama’s greater pity for ACORN radicals
Obama’s insulting behavior toward the Brits
Obama’s appeasement of Cuba, Russia and Iran
Obama’s abandonment of Poland and the Czech Republic
Obama’s demonization of capitalists
Bushlied
Faux outrages reported ad nauseum:
Corp jets
CEO pay
Gitmo
Abu Ghraib
Mission Accomplished
man made Global warming
Trent Lott at dying man’s birthday party
Rush Limbaugh parody of race obcessed liberals
Palin’s view of the Bering Strait
Bill Clinton’s fairy tale
Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson
oh yeah - puny column link
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Monday, March 16th at 11:32PM EST (link)http://www.redstate.com/gamecock/2009/03/13/striking-puny-earmark-pork-and-dishonesty-from-gop-mantra-against-obama-dems/
Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson
Here's the real reason
jfpurdue01 (Diary) Monday, March 16th at 10:58PM EST (link)1.) Bail out the auto industry and you give more power to the democrat-friendly unions.
2.) Bail out the financial industry and have more power over people by controlling all of their money.
3.) The insurance industry is the one thing that is standing in the way of Obama implementing a complete government take-over of the healthcare system. By adding a half a billion dollar stress to the insurance industry, they start moving in that direction.
It’s all about the government running everything and this is a subtle way to help them accomplish that.
Don't forget
thetexan (Diary) Monday, March 16th at 11:16PM EST (link)$59 million for Pacific salmon research
Obama's Bonus Army
Kudzu (Diary) Monday, March 16th at 11:17PM EST (link)That’s what I titled this from my own blog on this subject a few days ago at http://kudzu630.wordpress.com and its comforting knowing I might pay for any future injuries or service related issues.
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Was this issue on the news
thetexan (Diary) Tuesday, March 17th at 1:49AM EST (link)Anyone cover this story on the news tonight? Fox? CNN? ABC, CBS etc?
It's more insiduous than it superficially appears.
Achance (Diary) Tuesday, March 17th at 4:36AM EST (link)What it really does, as I understand it, is make a vet’s insurance, if he has it, the primary coverage. So, a disabled vet gets a job and his job has health insurance, then his job provided health insurance is responsible for his health care, including that related to his disability and the VA is only the secondary coverage. If the vet’s HI is 80-20, his private HI pays the 80 and the VA the 20. They’ll make all sorts of noise about how this is only fair and just like anybody else with double coverage.
EXCEPT, that it really interferes with the Disabled Vet preference that many employers observe as a matter of patriotism or law and which many must observe under USERRA. And, most health insurance plans have all sorts of restrictions on pre-existing conditions, which obviously a service related disability would be.
What these evil ba@#$%ts are really planning is to pillory the health insurance companies for refusing to cover the pre-existing disabilities of disabled veterans and making a big pitch about how they’re throwing the responsibility on the taxpayers even though they’re being paid all that money for HI coverage.
In Vino Veritas
And so the solution of course
bk (Diary) Tuesday, March 17th at 6:01AM EST (link)is a single-payer plan where the only choice for anyone and everyone is HillaryDaschleObamaCare.
That seems consistent with the general Obama/Democrat attitude: cause the problem in the first place, then grab money from taxpayers to great a big government “solution”.
If you have NEVER contacted your Senator today is the day and this issue is the issue!...
JadedByPolitics (Diary) Tuesday, March 17th at 5:45AM EST (link)I also suggest contacting all Congresspeople and other’s Senators who have a military background and give them an earful I will be calling Webb’s office myself, my husband is going to be calling his Gathering of Eagles contact and I suggest anyone who has contacts in Rollling Thunder call em and get em this is bigger than TEAPARTIES this is the the BEST DAMN MILITARY IN THE WORLD and 2.5 million of them make sure over 300 million of us are SAFE EVERY DAY….hell they deserve nice houses, cars etcs….,they deserve the biggest BAILOUT of all as a big THANK YOU!…..arghhhhhh I am MAD!
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Wayne (Diary) Tuesday, March 17th at 1:09PM EST (link)my two worthless senators today, Senator’s Levin and Stabenow. I doubt that I’ll hear anything of value from either of them Also, I contacted my Rep. Dave Camp, who I’m sure will respond. this angers me so much, I find it hard to type in a civil fashion at the moment.
This is just amazing, $900M for Hamas, pay for your own health care for our veterans. I wonder if anyone at the White House ever read an insurance policy, the clause that states they won’t pay for anything incurred in a WAR? Just totally insane.
And I’m sure that all the lefty reporters and commenters have alrady gotten their talking points at their secret website and from Stephy, Carville and Begala. Or, more likely, they were told to just totally ignore this.
I would hope that if Gen. Shinseki had any integrity at all, he would resign by week’s end. This should not be a “go along to get along” moment for someone who has ever commanded troops in the field.
“Hell, these are Marines. Men like them held Guadalcanal, and took Iwo Jima, Baghdad ain’t s–t”. Maj. Gen. John F. Kelly, USMC, Deputy CG, First MEF
I wonder if wounded vets could
izoneguy (Diary) Tuesday, March 17th at 1:31PM EST (link)go to Gaza for treatment? Or how about Cuba?
The world has been turned upside down.
Will soldiers start “playing it safe” for fear of being
wounded? This will destroy morale in the armed services
more than any enemy. Obama is an enemy of the state.
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
Wofford-Thornburgh race
maddog (Diary) Tuesday, March 17th at 7:34AM EST (link)Sickening.
This is total advertisment material. I remember the 1991 special Senate election in Pennsylvania to fill the vacant seat of deceased Sen. Johnn Heinz (R-PA), Harris Wofford (D) was an underdog with no political experience that defeated heaviliy favored former Gov and US Attorney General Dick Thornburgh (R) One of Wofford’s major campiagn themes was healthcare. Among those was a powerful and populist ad he had was asking why prisioners get free health care but not working families. That ad worked to his advantage. We should use something like this
Tried to
Wayne (Diary) Tuesday, March 17th at 1:11PM EST (link)recommend this, but the button seems to be not working?
“Hell, these are Marines. Men like them held Guadalcanal, and took Iwo Jima, Baghdad ain’t s–t”. Maj. Gen. John F. Kelly, USMC, Deputy CG, First MEF
Pushes away small companies
The Political Class (Diary) Tuesday, March 17th at 1:16PM EST (link)It would cost a small business tons of money. The annual increases in premiums are based on the health of the insured. If you own a small company and one or more employee is a vet in need of care then the premiums could skyrocket.
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What are they thinking?
Flagstaff (Diary) Tuesday, March 17th at 4:06PM EST (link)They aren’t.
Or, they don’t care.
Or, they’re more interested in promoting their socialist agenda and intend to use this as another reason why we need universal, government mandated, health insurance/care.
“The press is so powerful in its image-making role that it can make a criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”– Malcolm X, Audubon Ballroom, December 13, 1964
Flagstaff,
Wayne (Diary) Tuesday, March 17th at 5:46PM EST (link)I think it’s the third option. Force insurance companies to cancel coverage, through higher costs for disabled veterans, then go to the “people” and point to the insurance companies, saying, “see, they won’t cover veterans(or insert your favorite group) so we have to have universal coverage, and only the government can provide it. Obama indicated in the meeting that he didn’t care about the moral contract to provide for wounded veterans, he didn’t want to even hear that. His and Emanuel’s mantra was, if this won’t work, then YOU show us the money and how your plan would work.
Gen. Shinseki, he of black beret fame, should resign, unless he’s totally on board with this. In which case, he should resign.
And apparently the government doesn’t know that insurance policies don’t pay for injuries or loss as a result of war. I wonder, does the Obamunist want service members to pay for prosthetic devices too?
Other web sites all over this are :
Blackfive
This Ain’t Hell
among others.
“Hell, these are Marines. Men like them held Guadalcanal, and took Iwo Jima, Baghdad ain’t s–t”. Maj. Gen. John F. Kelly, USMC, Deputy CG, First MEF
Thankfully, it won't happen.
Flagstaff (Diary) Tuesday, March 17th at 8:22PM EST (link)If these were GS workers, it wouldn’t happen. (Although for all I know they may pay some of their own health insurance premiums.)
When part of your job involves risking life and limb, literally, and it’s in defense of your country, and health care if you’re wounded is promised as part of the bargain, how could it even be under consideration to withdraw that care?
Sort of like taking the AIG bonuses, promised as deferred compensation, back. Get the work done, then renege on the promise.
Does sound kind of Democratic when I put it that way.
“The press is so powerful in its image-making role that it can make a criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”– Malcolm X, Audubon Ballroom, December 13, 1964
The Great One is of the opinion
redneck_hippie (Diary) Tuesday, March 17th at 7:37PM EST (link)that The One’s plan is to throw the injured veterans onto private insurance coverage, and play up any complaints there are about their health care coverage as the justification to take over the health care industry.
I think the answer is quite simple.
scottbomb (Diary) Tuesday, March 17th at 7:48PM EST (link)I could be wrong, but don’t most military folks vote Republican? And don’t most illegals (who eventually become legal if they can avoid deportation) end up voting Democrat?
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“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of ‘liberalism’, they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.” – Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948
Then, scottbomb, I would suggest that all blue states
janis (Diary) Tuesday, March 17th at 7:55PM EST (link)be defended only by illegal aliens should we get attacked. And in time of a natural disaster like another hurricane or bad earthquake, how’s about we ship a couple thousand illegals there to clean things up and get the power back on?
This is...Disgusting!
Michael Dugas (Diary) Tuesday, March 17th at 10:55PM EST (link)I can’t believe what I am reading! Who the hell does this guy think he is? Is he that clueless? He throw away BILLIONS on poorly run businesses , that donated millions to him, and he wants to toss out soldiers to the street!
I’m shaking I’m so mad…I can’t believe this.
I’ll tell you what I am not a violent person but the man is pushing it.
Everyday I see him damage my country again and again and I get angry and I write and I call and I email! But this is so wrong!
I have to stop before I say something that will be taken wrong and I have the secret service at my door or before I break my keyboard!
This CAN’T happen!
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The Political Class (Diary) Wednesday, March 18th at 7:13PM EST (link)good point on the voting
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The Political Class (Diary) Wednesday, March 18th at 7:13PM EST (link)good point on the voting
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Unfortunately
UpLateAgain (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 3:37PM EST (link)Illegal aliens on the whole will likely get better treatment at local hospitals than this CIC will provide through the VA. Both aspects of that are disgusting: The less than sterling treatment the VA often provides AND the free treatment (at taxpayer expense) that illegals pick up in hospitals across the US.
You never never never actually need a gun, until you need a gun, and then nothing else will do.
Thankfully
bryanjbusch (Diary) Friday, March 20th at 9:35AM EST (link)This proposal has been scrapped.