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		<title>By: AceInTX</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/kevin_holtsberry/2009/02/13/i-hope-ohio-conservatives-are-happy-now/#comment-440</link>
		<dc:creator>AceInTX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 08:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: AceInTX</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/kevin_holtsberry/2009/02/13/i-hope-ohio-conservatives-are-happy-now/#comment-439</link>
		<dc:creator>AceInTX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 08:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is...when Snowe Specter and Collins are with us...it&#039;s on an issue where McCain Graham, and Dewine stray from the reservation...that&#039;s the problem with our side...because on almost every issue we have a different set of &quot;Mavericks&quot; and it&#039;s usually just enough of them to throw the issue to the Democrats and leave us holding the bag!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is&#8230;when Snowe Specter and Collins are with us&#8230;it&#8217;s on an issue where McCain Graham, and Dewine stray from the reservation&#8230;that&#8217;s the problem with our side&#8230;because on almost every issue we have a different set of &#8220;Mavericks&#8221; and it&#8217;s usually just enough of them to throw the issue to the Democrats and leave us holding the bag!</p>
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		<title>By: AKSteveB</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/kevin_holtsberry/2009/02/13/i-hope-ohio-conservatives-are-happy-now/#comment-438</link>
		<dc:creator>AKSteveB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 03:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but people are casting the RINO net too far.  Specter, Snowe, and Collins aren&#039;t center-right, they are liberals.  The DeWines, Grahams, and even McCains of the world are.  I think we now know where the lines are drawn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but people are casting the RINO net too far.  Specter, Snowe, and Collins aren&#8217;t center-right, they are liberals.  The DeWines, Grahams, and even McCains of the world are.  I think we now know where the lines are drawn.</p>
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		<title>By: AceInTX</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/kevin_holtsberry/2009/02/13/i-hope-ohio-conservatives-are-happy-now/#comment-437</link>
		<dc:creator>AceInTX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 03:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry it&#039;s take so long to reply...

You are correct that defeating DeWine didn&#039;t help...but it&#039;s not clear that it would have made any difference either. Dewine was always a question  mark when it comes to this stuff...and even if he&#039;d have been there to vote no...one of the other RINOs would have stepped up to the Bipartisan plate to give the Dems the in field home run they needed to run the bases!

But to somehow say that Conservatives are to blame when it was 3 so called &quot;Moderate&quot; Republicans that tipped the balance is incomprehensible and so infuriating as to be indiscribable!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry it&#8217;s take so long to reply&#8230;</p>
<p>You are correct that defeating DeWine didn&#8217;t help&#8230;but it&#8217;s not clear that it would have made any difference either. Dewine was always a question  mark when it comes to this stuff&#8230;and even if he&#8217;d have been there to vote no&#8230;one of the other RINOs would have stepped up to the Bipartisan plate to give the Dems the in field home run they needed to run the bases!</p>
<p>But to somehow say that Conservatives are to blame when it was 3 so called &#8220;Moderate&#8221; Republicans that tipped the balance is incomprehensible and so infuriating as to be indiscribable!</p>
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		<title>By: AceInTX</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/kevin_holtsberry/2009/02/13/i-hope-ohio-conservatives-are-happy-now/#comment-436</link>
		<dc:creator>AceInTX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 02:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to twist the fault for this travesty to somehow be the fault of Conservatives is infuriating and asinine!

The thee vote the Dummycrats neede to put this thing over the top were Republicans...and whether DeWine would have voted for it is a shot in the dark at best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to twist the fault for this travesty to somehow be the fault of Conservatives is infuriating and asinine!</p>
<p>The thee vote the Dummycrats neede to put this thing over the top were Republicans&#8230;and whether DeWine would have voted for it is a shot in the dark at best.</p>
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		<title>By: AceInTX</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/kevin_holtsberry/2009/02/13/i-hope-ohio-conservatives-are-happy-now/#comment-435</link>
		<dc:creator>AceInTX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 02:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Rod_Patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/kevin_holtsberry/2009/02/13/i-hope-ohio-conservatives-are-happy-now/#comment-434</link>
		<dc:creator>Rod_Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 01:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enjoy socialism and Obama while it lasts.</description>
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		<title>By: Neil Stevens</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/kevin_holtsberry/2009/02/13/i-hope-ohio-conservatives-are-happy-now/#comment-433</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 15:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, seriously, what are you saying the problem is, and what is your proposal to fix the problem?

Clearly defeating DeWine didn&#039;t fix the problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, seriously, what are you saying the problem is, and what is your proposal to fix the problem?</p>
<p>Clearly defeating DeWine didn&#8217;t fix the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Stevens</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/kevin_holtsberry/2009/02/13/i-hope-ohio-conservatives-are-happy-now/#comment-432</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 15:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kevin Holtsberry</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/kevin_holtsberry/2009/02/13/i-hope-ohio-conservatives-are-happy-now/#comment-431</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Holtsberry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 15:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The point is that with DeWine we had a chance to stop Porkulus with Brown we did not.  DeWine might have been a squish on some issues but I very much doubt he votes for this monstrosity.  Even Voinovich voted no.  Dewine was pro-life Brown is abortion on demand, etc.

I am all in favor of getting the most conservative and electable candidates we can field.  But when it comes down to center-right versus left it is just suicidal to let the left win.  I simply fail to see how having Brown win helps conservatism at all.  This is no standing on principle but cutting off your nose to spite your face.

And now we have Brown installed in the Senate seat and it will be incredibly hard to dislodge him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point is that with DeWine we had a chance to stop Porkulus with Brown we did not.  DeWine might have been a squish on some issues but I very much doubt he votes for this monstrosity.  Even Voinovich voted no.  Dewine was pro-life Brown is abortion on demand, etc.</p>
<p>I am all in favor of getting the most conservative and electable candidates we can field.  But when it comes down to center-right versus left it is just suicidal to let the left win.  I simply fail to see how having Brown win helps conservatism at all.  This is no standing on principle but cutting off your nose to spite your face.</p>
<p>And now we have Brown installed in the Senate seat and it will be incredibly hard to dislodge him.</p>
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		<title>By: gekster</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/kevin_holtsberry/2009/02/13/i-hope-ohio-conservatives-are-happy-now/#comment-430</link>
		<dc:creator>gekster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 06:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Minor injiries.</description>
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		<title>By: gekster</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/kevin_holtsberry/2009/02/13/i-hope-ohio-conservatives-are-happy-now/#comment-429</link>
		<dc:creator>gekster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 05:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: AceInTX</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/kevin_holtsberry/2009/02/13/i-hope-ohio-conservatives-are-happy-now/#comment-428</link>
		<dc:creator>AceInTX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 05:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a way of saying &quot;I just don&#039;t get it&quot;....It&#039;s a way of saying I&#039;m too dumb to understand the arguement that we need to put these traitors on power so we can win because we never win with them in power....

It&#039;s a sarcastic point that I&#039;m to stupid compared to the Washington and northeaster establishment elites since they&#039;ve all gone to liberal ivy league colleges and been educated to lord it over the resat of us...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a way of saying &#8220;I just don&#8217;t get it&#8221;&#8230;.It&#8217;s a way of saying I&#8217;m too dumb to understand the arguement that we need to put these traitors on power so we can win because we never win with them in power&#8230;.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a sarcastic point that I&#8217;m to stupid compared to the Washington and northeaster establishment elites since they&#8217;ve all gone to liberal ivy league colleges and been educated to lord it over the resat of us&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: eschristian</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/kevin_holtsberry/2009/02/13/i-hope-ohio-conservatives-are-happy-now/#comment-427</link>
		<dc:creator>eschristian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 05:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>n/t</description>
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		<title>By: gekster</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/kevin_holtsberry/2009/02/13/i-hope-ohio-conservatives-are-happy-now/#comment-426</link>
		<dc:creator>gekster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 05:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please don&#039;t say I think you are stupid. Thats not the way I see it.
Never did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please don&#8217;t say I think you are stupid. Thats not the way I see it.<br />
Never did.</p>
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		<title>By: AceInTX</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/kevin_holtsberry/2009/02/13/i-hope-ohio-conservatives-are-happy-now/#comment-425</link>
		<dc:creator>AceInTX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 05:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I look at these three in particular and I all I see is defeat and despondency because they are always on the other side of us...Specter has a 40% ACU rating...why is he even in our party?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I look at these three in particular and I all I see is defeat and despondency because they are always on the other side of us&#8230;Specter has a 40% ACU rating&#8230;why is he even in our party?</p>
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		<title>By: gekster</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/kevin_holtsberry/2009/02/13/i-hope-ohio-conservatives-are-happy-now/#comment-424</link>
		<dc:creator>gekster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 05:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>again, just askin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>again, just askin</p>
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		<title>By: gekster</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/kevin_holtsberry/2009/02/13/i-hope-ohio-conservatives-are-happy-now/#comment-423</link>
		<dc:creator>gekster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 05:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just askin.</description>
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		<title>By: Moe Lane</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/kevin_holtsberry/2009/02/13/i-hope-ohio-conservatives-are-happy-now/#comment-422</link>
		<dc:creator>Moe Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 05:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have the slightest interest in hearing yours.

Blam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have the slightest interest in hearing yours.</p>
<p>Blam.</p>
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		<title>By: obama2012</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/kevin_holtsberry/2009/02/13/i-hope-ohio-conservatives-are-happy-now/#comment-421</link>
		<dc:creator>obama2012</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 05:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All you conservatives can do is pay the higher taxes and complain!  We will have a permanent majority. Obama&#039;s stimulus plan puts more people on the receiving end of government goodies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All you conservatives can do is pay the higher taxes and complain!  We will have a permanent majority. Obama&#8217;s stimulus plan puts more people on the receiving end of government goodies.</p>
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