Comments on: Obama-Biden continue to distort and deceive http://www.redstate.com/kevin_holtsberry/2008/09/27/obama-biden-continue-to-distort-and-deceive/ Thu, 10 Nov 2011 01:02:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Hestrold http://www.redstate.com/kevin_holtsberry/2008/09/27/obama-biden-continue-to-distort-and-deceive/#comment-283 Hestrold Sat, 27 Sep 2008 23:21:23 +0000 #comment-283 <p>You ask "At what point does Obama and Biden get called on the fact that every day on the trail seems to bring a new lie or deceptive claim. At what point do Biden's gaffes stop being a joke and start being a vulnerability?"</p> <p>Get real, we run our candidates against their candidates AND the MSM. It's two against one and it's unfair, but look how many times we actually win the debate. That's what keeps me ultimately positive.</p> You ask “At what point does Obama and Biden get called on the fact that every day on the trail seems to bring a new lie or deceptive claim. At what point do Biden’s gaffes stop being a joke and start being a vulnerability?”

Get real, we run our candidates against their candidates AND the MSM. It’s two against one and it’s unfair, but look how many times we actually win the debate. That’s what keeps me ultimately positive.

]]> By: weave http://www.redstate.com/kevin_holtsberry/2008/09/27/obama-biden-continue-to-distort-and-deceive/#comment-282 weave Sat, 27 Sep 2008 21:54:01 +0000 #comment-282 <p>Sorry for double post. I got an :unhandled exception thrown" error and tried to go back to rescue what I typed and tried posting again. Guess it went through and posted anyway. :( </p> Sorry for double post. I got an :unhandled exception thrown” error and tried to go back to rescue what I typed and tried posting again. Guess it went through and posted anyway. :(

]]> By: weave http://www.redstate.com/kevin_holtsberry/2008/09/27/obama-biden-continue-to-distort-and-deceive/#comment-281 weave Sat, 27 Sep 2008 21:49:32 +0000 #comment-281 <p>My employer paid healthcare costs my employer $5,300 per year for a single person and $13,100 for a family. The credit won't pay for it all and if my employer modified their plan to make each employer pay equal to their tax credit, then my taxable income would go up by the difference ($2,800). </p> <p>Part of the reason I took the job was the outstanding benefit package. This plan mucks with that greatly.</p> <p>The reason healthcare premiums are lower in a group than individual coverage is that the risk is spread out across the entire group. If it's changed to people just buying it when they think they need it, the very young will likely skip it since they need the money for other things, and the older folk will elect to get coverage -- decreasing the pool to spread the risk across.</p> <p>Unless the feds are going to mandate everyone buy health insurance like is done with auto insurance.</p> <p>It makes me uncomfortable and I haven't found a good explanation of how this is all supposed to work out that answers my concerns.</p> My employer paid healthcare costs my employer $5,300 per year for a single person and $13,100 for a family. The credit won’t pay for it all and if my employer modified their plan to make each employer pay equal to their tax credit, then my taxable income would go up by the difference ($2,800).

Part of the reason I took the job was the outstanding benefit package. This plan mucks with that greatly.

The reason healthcare premiums are lower in a group than individual coverage is that the risk is spread out across the entire group. If it’s changed to people just buying it when they think they need it, the very young will likely skip it since they need the money for other things, and the older folk will elect to get coverage — decreasing the pool to spread the risk across.

Unless the feds are going to mandate everyone buy health insurance like is done with auto insurance.

It makes me uncomfortable and I haven’t found a good explanation of how this is all supposed to work out that answers my concerns.

]]> By: weave http://www.redstate.com/kevin_holtsberry/2008/09/27/obama-biden-continue-to-distort-and-deceive/#comment-280 weave Sat, 27 Sep 2008 21:46:43 +0000 #comment-280 <p>My employer paid healthcare costs my employer $5,300 per year for a single person and $13,100 for a family. The credit won't pay for it all and if my employer modified their plan to make each employer pay equal to their tax credit, then my taxable income would go up by the difference ($2,800). </p> <p>Part of the reason I took the job was the outstanding benefit package. This plan mucks with that greatly.</p> <p>The reason healthcare premiums are lower in a group than individual coverage is that the risk is spread out across the entire group. If it's changed to people just buying it when they think they need it, the very young will likely skip it since they need the money for other things, and the older folk will elect to get coverage -- decreasing the pool to spread the risk across.</p> <p>Unless the feds are going to mandate everyone buy health insurance like is done with auto insurance.</p> <p>It makes me uncomfortable and I haven't found a good explanation of how this is all supposed to work out that answers my concerns.</p> My employer paid healthcare costs my employer $5,300 per year for a single person and $13,100 for a family. The credit won’t pay for it all and if my employer modified their plan to make each employer pay equal to their tax credit, then my taxable income would go up by the difference ($2,800).

Part of the reason I took the job was the outstanding benefit package. This plan mucks with that greatly.

The reason healthcare premiums are lower in a group than individual coverage is that the risk is spread out across the entire group. If it’s changed to people just buying it when they think they need it, the very young will likely skip it since they need the money for other things, and the older folk will elect to get coverage — decreasing the pool to spread the risk across.

Unless the feds are going to mandate everyone buy health insurance like is done with auto insurance.

It makes me uncomfortable and I haven’t found a good explanation of how this is all supposed to work out that answers my concerns.

]]> By: Kevin_Holtsberry http://www.redstate.com/kevin_holtsberry/2008/09/27/obama-biden-continue-to-distort-and-deceive/#comment-279 Kevin_Holtsberry Sat, 27 Sep 2008 21:28:25 +0000 #comment-279 <p>to get away from employer based health care and give people the power to make choices. It also puts a market back in health care because people have their money and can make choices about spending it.</p> <p>The tax system is what has brought us to this employer based system that keeps people from being in control of their health care.</p> to get away from employer based health care and give people the power to make choices. It also puts a market back in health care because people have their money and can make choices about spending it.

The tax system is what has brought us to this employer based system that keeps people from being in control of their health care.

]]> By: Gekster http://www.redstate.com/kevin_holtsberry/2008/09/27/obama-biden-continue-to-distort-and-deceive/#comment-278 Gekster Sat, 27 Sep 2008 21:15:55 +0000 #comment-278 <p>I would think that Tort reform would be the priority before any tax increase. Malpractice insurance rates are astronomical, with most lawsuits giving the lion’s share of any settlement to the liars, er lawyers. Some Doctors are even driven out of business by the high costs. Those costs are passed down in higher fees to the patient. Bring it down and maybe people could afford health insurance without taxing anybody.</p> I would think that Tort reform would be the priority before
any tax increase.
Malpractice insurance rates are astronomical,
with most lawsuits giving the lion’s share of any settlement
to the liars, er lawyers.
Some Doctors are even driven out of business by the high costs.
Those costs are passed down in higher fees to the patient.
Bring it down and maybe people could afford health insurance
without taxing anybody.

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