Comments on: Ohio Gov Says No to Unions http://www.redstate.com/kevin_holtsberry/2008/08/22/ohio-gov-says-no-to-unions/ Thu, 10 Nov 2011 01:02:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: buckeye http://www.redstate.com/kevin_holtsberry/2008/08/22/ohio-gov-says-no-to-unions/#comment-226 buckeye Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:04:21 +0000 #comment-226 <p>I think the governor's opposition to this has more to do with a significantly worsening economy on his watch, particularly over the past year than it does with an on-going centrist pro-business agenda. Ohio's <a href="http://lmi.state.oh.us/">unemployment rate </a>has jumped from 5.6% to 7.2% in the past 12 months. With the first Democrat Governor in 16 years we now have the highest unemployment rate in <a href="http://www.10tv.com/live/content/local/stories/2008/08/15/unemployment.html?type=rss&cat=&sid=102">15 years.</a> Ohio now <a href="http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/topic/50.html">ranks 47th</a> for business tax climate. Yep, that's a pro business centrist.</p> <p>Keep in mind Ohio Democrats across the state led by Strickland's 2006 governor campaign supported the union backed 2006 minimum wage initiative that not only indexed an increased minimum wage to inflation at $6.85/hr but also <a href="http://www.policymattersohio.org/media/DBJ_Sides_weigh_merits_2006_0929.htm">provided power</a> to any party including unions to act on behalf of employees and demand detailed payroll information at no cost to the requester, and without employees requesting someone act on their behalf. A job killing black mailing sledge hammer for the AFL-CIO that's now coming home to roost at 7.2%. As a Congressman, Governor Strickland received a <a href="http://www.ontheissues.org/OH/Ted_Strickland.htm">100% rating</a> from the AFL-CIO. He also wasted no time putting a <a href="http://www.aproundtable.org/news.cfm?NEWS_ID=1729&issuecode=">moratorium on charter schools</a> to please the NEA and even sicking the AG on a few. The little known SEIU (isn't that a football school in the SEC?) doesn't determine union policy in Ohio. That belongs to the AFL-CIO who knew better than running lead on this over the top initiative. There's a reason the SEIU was running point. When Strickland stands up to the AFL-CIO or NEA then he'll be deserving of your pro-business over union centrist accolades. </p> I think the governor’s opposition to this has more to do with a significantly worsening economy on his watch, particularly over the past year than it does with an on-going centrist pro-business agenda. Ohio’s unemployment rate has jumped from 5.6% to 7.2% in the past 12 months. With the first Democrat Governor in 16 years we now have the highest unemployment rate in 15 years. Ohio now ranks 47th for business tax climate. Yep, that’s a pro business centrist.

Keep in mind Ohio Democrats across the state led by Strickland’s 2006 governor campaign supported the union backed 2006 minimum wage initiative that not only indexed an increased minimum wage to inflation at $6.85/hr but also provided power to any party including unions to act on behalf of employees and demand detailed payroll information at no cost to the requester, and without employees requesting someone act on their behalf. A job killing black mailing sledge hammer for the AFL-CIO that’s now coming home to roost at 7.2%. As a Congressman, Governor Strickland received a 100% rating from the AFL-CIO. He also wasted no time putting a moratorium on charter schools
to please the NEA and even sicking the AG on a few. The little known SEIU (isn’t that a football school in the SEC?) doesn’t determine union policy in Ohio. That belongs to the AFL-CIO who knew better than running lead on this over the top initiative. There’s a reason the SEIU was running point. When Strickland stands up to the AFL-CIO or NEA then he’ll be deserving of your pro-business over union centrist accolades.

]]> By: BrianH http://www.redstate.com/kevin_holtsberry/2008/08/22/ohio-gov-says-no-to-unions/#comment-225 BrianH Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:53:58 +0000 #comment-225 <p>completely missed the point or both.</p> <p>I don't know if this guy is a troll or just didn't bother to read closely.</p> <p>For JDRipper: This article is about how the only Dems who can win elections are those who tend more towards the center. Even after being elected, they can't bow to pressure from the far left. The lefties would like to think otherwise but lefty policies don't win elections. As Neil said, I think you owe Kevin an apology and a retraction. </p> <p>As to your larger point, I agree, we need to get conservative Republicans elected over centrist Dems if we have any hope of correcting course in this country.</p> completely missed the point or both.

I don’t know if this guy is a troll or just didn’t bother to read closely.

For JDRipper: This article is about how the only Dems who can win elections are those who tend more towards the center. Even after being elected, they can’t bow to pressure from the far left. The lefties would like to think otherwise but lefty policies don’t win elections. As Neil said, I think you owe Kevin an apology and a retraction.

As to your larger point, I agree, we need to get conservative Republicans elected over centrist Dems if we have any hope of correcting course in this country.

]]> By: Neil_Stevens http://www.redstate.com/kevin_holtsberry/2008/08/22/ohio-gov-says-no-to-unions/#comment-224 Neil_Stevens Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:42:55 +0000 #comment-224 <p>You may want to retract that.</p> You may want to retract that.

]]> By: Strelnikov http://www.redstate.com/kevin_holtsberry/2008/08/22/ohio-gov-says-no-to-unions/#comment-223 Strelnikov Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:39:10 +0000 #comment-223 <p>Greetings! Here in Columbus, where my my smarter 7th and 8th Graders are all mini-Republicans and the supposedly Catholic faculty sniffs their support for Nobama with their green tea, I do not sense any great support for such a bill outside of the usual suspects (i.e. Unionists, the uneducated, the undereducated, and those with I.Q.'s under 85).</p> <p>It is probably just too early: I think the criticism of Strickland above is perhaps not on target. I think he sees the reality: this will drive even more businesses out of the state. </p> <p>Strickland was seen on the stage with Shrillary, and his name was batted around as a VP possibility.</p> <p>But probably not for Obamaramadingdong.</p> Greetings! Here in Columbus, where my my smarter 7th and 8th Graders are all mini-Republicans and the supposedly Catholic faculty sniffs their support for Nobama with their green tea, I do not sense any great support for such a bill outside of the usual suspects (i.e. Unionists, the uneducated, the undereducated, and those with I.Q.’s under 85).

It is probably just too early: I think the criticism of Strickland above is perhaps not on target. I think he sees the reality: this will drive even more businesses out of the state.

Strickland was seen on the stage with Shrillary, and his name was batted around as a VP possibility.

But probably not for Obamaramadingdong.

]]> By: Dan_McLaughlin http://www.redstate.com/kevin_holtsberry/2008/08/22/ohio-gov-says-no-to-unions/#comment-222 Dan_McLaughlin Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:37:13 +0000 #comment-222 <p>Take himself out of the running to be Obama's running mate.</p> Take himself out of the running to be Obama’s running mate.

]]> By: Kevin_Holtsberry http://www.redstate.com/kevin_holtsberry/2008/08/22/ohio-gov-says-no-to-unions/#comment-221 Kevin_Holtsberry Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:26:12 +0000 #comment-221 <p>I am not canonizing anyone and I fail to see how the post did that. All I am saying is that the angry left isn't winning in Ohio.</p> <p>The point isn't whether to vote Democrat or not the point is that even Democrats are starting to realize that the union push toward more and more mandates on business is going to hurt.</p> <p>I took a dig at the netroots because they seem to believe that you can run as a crazy leftist and still get elected. But the candidates who are winning don't back that theory up.</p> I am not canonizing anyone and I fail to see how the post did that. All I am saying is that the angry left isn’t winning in Ohio.

The point isn’t whether to vote Democrat or not the point is that even Democrats are starting to realize that the union push toward more and more mandates on business is going to hurt.

I took a dig at the netroots because they seem to believe that you can run as a crazy leftist and still get elected. But the candidates who are winning don’t back that theory up.

]]> By: jdripper http://www.redstate.com/kevin_holtsberry/2008/08/22/ohio-gov-says-no-to-unions/#comment-220 jdripper Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:10:04 +0000 #comment-220 <p>I am curious to know how the polls were running on this issue. A more honest post would have shown that. I find it odd that slightly more then 2 months till the voting they come out and oppose a resolution on the ballot. Is the outcome a foregone conclusion? <br /> Also this is like your so called centrist Democrats getting elected and then voting for Nancy Pelosi as the Speaker. The liberals get their wish in the end. Sorry but Democrats need to be defeated. They need to be defeated on all levels. The Governor you love to day will run for Senate soon.</p> I am curious to know how the polls were running on this issue. A more honest post would have shown that.
I find it odd that slightly more then 2 months till the voting they come out and oppose a resolution on the ballot. Is the outcome a foregone conclusion?
Also this is like your so called centrist Democrats getting elected and then voting for Nancy Pelosi as the Speaker. The liberals get their wish in the end. Sorry but Democrats need to be defeated. They need to be defeated on all levels. The Governor you love to day will run for Senate soon.

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