He admitted it directly to , “Joe the Plumber.” In his own words Barack Obama advocated Socialism when the now famous Joe the Plumber expressed concern about Obama’s tax plan in which individuals and businesses who make over $250,000 dollar will experience a tax increase. Joe is working toward owning the business that he presently works for and Obama told him that he thought when, ” you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.”
In the last of the Presidential debates John McCain used this conversation and the example of Joe the Plumber as a point of reference concerning Obama’s economic plan especially in referencing his tax policy. It has had an affect as people everywhere have been able to identify with Joe and his concerns over tax increases and as Joe put it in an interview Obama’s sharing of the wealth being, “socialist.”
This is a huge negative about Obama that those who support him especially those in the media want to keep under raps. As such there has been a concentrated effort by the Obama campaign and their media backers to demonize an average American who did not attend an Obama rally but in whom Obama brought the rally to his door step as Obama was going door to door campaigning. This average, “Joe,” simply asked Obama a question and now he is being hammered in an attempt to ruin Joe’s credibility.
Why ? Because while Obama’s plans are socialist in nature, actually having it said they are socialist makes this messiah of the left look bad and his policy look dangerous. Yet the fact remains that Barack Obama IS A SOCIALIST ! Sure he calls himself a Democrat after the party that nominated him. His record in the Senate is liberal by definition in relation to the way in which he voted, when he voted and I stress, WHEN.
But in truth Barack Obama is a Socialist and his agenda in which he wants to bring to the American people as ,”change,” will greatly advance our society toward Socialism, a slippery slope that has already started but will face near completion with an Obama administration especially if he has a Democrat majority to back his agenda.
Some of the slippery slope began with the advent of the institution of the income tax which began with the passage of the 16th amendment in 1913. It was furthered by FDR’s New Deal with the onset of Social Security and the massive government sponsored expansions that took place under his administration. Lyndon Johnson expanded on this with his Great Society which created an entitlement based welfare system which in essence discouraged working in favor of government assistance.
More recently are the Socialistic style economic bailout packages which have partially nationalized private businesses like AIG in which the government has a 79% controlling voice and tax payer money is being used to shore up a collapsed sector of the economy. All of which came about because in the rush to hit the campaign trail not one free market solution, in which there were many, was even considered. As such just as in the Great Depression government intervention rather than free market solutions will delay the amount of time it takes for the economy to fully recover.
Now Barack Obama steps in proposing new and massive Socialistic plans that will as he put it, “spread the wealth,” under an Obama administration. His tax plan is a massive redistribution of wealth increasing taxes on those individuals and small businesses who make over $250, 000 Deceptively stating that the majority of small businesses make far less than the thresh hold for Obama’s tax increase. When in reality according to the Tax Policy Center ONLY 9% of small businesses fall under the thresh hold with the other 91% facing eligibility for the increase under the Obama plan.
His claim of ,”tax cuts,” for ,” 95%,” of Americans are nothing more than redefining the meaning of tax cut with a series of tax credits ranging from increasing the earned income credit to credits for college tuition and so called, “green,” cars. All of which except the green car credit are refundable which means that the 44% of Americans, 63 million who pay NO taxes will receive a tax refund upon filing which will be payed for by Obama’s tax increase for those who make over 250K.
Additionally these credits phase out if as an individual makes more income which will discourage working and actually create a tax welfare system. This is just the tip of the Socialism iceberg for Barack Obama. His health care plan by his estimate will cost $150 BILLION dollars each year, most believe it will cost much more. Providing government health care to anyone who does not have a work related plan.
His claim of saving those with health insurance, $2500 dollars per year is based on shifting the cost of catastrophic health care from the private sector to the government, payed for out of tax payer money. This idea also eliminates cost containment through competition because the government control of catastrophic insurance will allow out of control pricing at tax payer expense. Basically cost containment which is the key problem in the health care system goes out the window. Again Socialising health care where everyone through taxes pays for government control.
As evidenced in each debate when Obama was pressed for answers concerning how he would solve any problem his response always gave a government solution which again stresses his Socialistic ideas. He fully believes that the only answer to any problem is government. A society where government provides for the people and the people in turn become dependant on the government. Who then under Obama’s socialistic society provides the money to pay for government control ? The people. First the, “rich,” as Obama states are those who make over 250K each year. This is only about 5% of the population.
A money supply that Obama will soon tap out especially as they see their money dwindle through increased taxation and start tightening their investment and/or business expansion which will eliminate jobs and services. This thresh hold of 250K receiving a tax increase out of necessity under Obama’s Socialistic expansion will have to be lowered in order to pay for Obama’s programs. First it will drop to 200K, the 150K, then 100K then 50K and so on.
Also as business is taxed more under Obama, consumers will carry the burden. Businesses do not pay taxes as such. The tax burden of a business is absorbed in their prices for goods and services. If they receive a tax increase they either cut back employees or pass the increase on to the consumer through higher prices or both. Also when has anyone found a job provided by a poor person ? Those above Obama’s tax increase thresh hold provide jobs. And when their taxes are raised the jobs decrease! Democrats have NEVER understood this plain and simple FACT!
Class warfare is the key to Socialism and the center piece of Barack Obama’s agenda as he constantly demonizes those who make more than 250K, calling them the rich and promises those who make less that under his government Socialism they will receive the money taken from the evil and successful rich.
Spreading the wealth, government solutions for everything, tax welfare which discourages work in order to receive a tax credit, government control and individual dependency on government and finally increasing the burden on private business thus eliminating jobs and raising prices. This is the cost of electing Barack Obama. This is the price of Barack Obama , Socialist !
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Unfortunateky, I don't think many/most people care that Obama is a socialist
ZootSuit (Diary) Sunday, October 19th at 10:59AM EST (link)And I write this as one of the first persons even here on RedState to call Obama a Marxist.
But the unfortunate truth is that, these days, I don’t think many people see the evils and flaws of socialism. At best, they may hate the word but they have no true concept of the principles and practices of socialism that they think they disagree with but actually support in practice.
You need look no further than our current Republican President and Republican Presidential nominee. I am not the only one here on RedState who thinks their respective plans for the Federal government to “purchase stock in private banks” and to “purchase private home mortgages and renegotiate them” are notable steps in the path to socialism. Yet there are those among us even here on RedState who support these actions. But if the idea of the government buying into private banks and private home mortgages can garner some support even on RedState, this bastion of conservatism (and I both sincerely mean that and mean it as a compliment), then we why should we not expect Obama’s even more socialist agenda not to gain even wider support among the wider population?
***** Unrepentant African-American nationalist, Unapologetic African-American conservative!
Socialism does not work
izoneguy (Diary) Sunday, October 19th at 11:35AM EST (link)Just Google – Socialism does not work -
People don’t understand what it is.
They will get a hint when they get laid off.
They will get a hint when they never get another raise.
They will get a hint when their co-workers get laid
off and they have to do more work for less pay.
They will get a hint when they see that doing nothing
gets the same result of working your ass off.
They will get a hint when many national food chains
go out of business and the government food store pops up with prices double & triple.
They will get a hint when McDonalds start charging $10 for a happy meal – socialist meal.
They will get a hint when gas is $12 a gallon and 50% of that goes to Obamaland.
They will get a hint when books start getting banned and free speech is not free anymore.
They will get a hint when the government comes a knocking for your legally registered firearm.
They will get a hint when foreign cars become totally unaffordable.
They will get a hint when Toyota & Nissan close their factories and leave.
They will get a hint when tax on a new cars will be 25% of the MSRP.
Need I go on???
This could be an exciting documentary to produce.
“How Obama *ucked up America by really trying”
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
My fear is that individuals who have gone
Uma Richie (Diary) Sunday, October 19th at 12:04PM EST (link)heavily into debt are willing to exchange our current system of debt-driven consumerism for socialism. In my opinion, both are wrong. Both enslave people. The difference is that under debt-driven consumerism, as an individual, I have the power to stay out of debt. I can’t opt out of a socialist economy if one is put into place.
Are there any Capitalists left? (I’ll gladly accept reasonable regulations, but admit that I cannot precisely define “reasonable regulations”)
izoneguy, implicit in everything you just wrote is ...
ZootSuit (Diary) Sunday, October 19th at 12:10PM EST (link)they will get a hint AFTER Barack Obama is elected.
***** Unrepentant African-American nationalist, Unapologetic African-American conservative!
Ha Ha - Good Point!
izoneguy (Diary) Sunday, October 19th at 12:33PM EST (link)I was thinking AFTER. Obama is so desperate and so close that I would NOT BELIEVE anything Obama says the next two weeks.
I have not believed anything he said – Oh except when he told Joe the Plumber that he wanted to spread the wealth.
Obama will be a boon to all right-wing film makers.
Michael Moore will go out of business.
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.