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		<title>By: Skanderbeg</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/kellymch/2009/08/04/will-someone-please-explain-trolls-to-me/#comment-24</link>
		<dc:creator>Skanderbeg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 02:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for messing up my communications - it does happen sometimes.  ;)

I was thinking generally about the wide world of comment sections; due to policy and aggressive policing, RS tends to keep things sane.

Some people have ego problems, or need-to-preen-my-moral-superior problems, or just like to argue.

But always keep in mind that these things aren&#039;t just between the commenters - they stay around and amount to archival material.

That&#039;s why I&#039;m sure that people are &quot;sent in&quot; to leave t*rds in diaries in here for example - so that if/when someone stumbles in, they will be forced to read the drivel that the trolls deposit.  It&#039;s a way of keeping their own side onside so to speak, methinks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for messing up my communications &#8211; it does happen sometimes.  <img src='http://www.redstate.com/kellymch/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I was thinking generally about the wide world of comment sections; due to policy and aggressive policing, RS tends to keep things sane.</p>
<p>Some people have ego problems, or need-to-preen-my-moral-superior problems, or just like to argue.</p>
<p>But always keep in mind that these things aren&#8217;t just between the commenters &#8211; they stay around and amount to archival material.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I&#8217;m sure that people are &#8220;sent in&#8221; to leave t*rds in diaries in here for example &#8211; so that if/when someone stumbles in, they will be forced to read the drivel that the trolls deposit.  It&#8217;s a way of keeping their own side onside so to speak, methinks.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike gamecock DeVine</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/kellymch/2009/08/04/will-someone-please-explain-trolls-to-me/#comment-23</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike gamecock DeVine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 23:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Right_Again</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/kellymch/2009/08/04/will-someone-please-explain-trolls-to-me/#comment-22</link>
		<dc:creator>Right_Again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 23:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>have all the time in the world to spend daddy&#039;s money.  It&#039;s funny how many of them appear to have no job, no life and no clue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>have all the time in the world to spend daddy&#8217;s money.  It&#8217;s funny how many of them appear to have no job, no life and no clue.</p>
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		<title>By: David123</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/kellymch/2009/08/04/will-someone-please-explain-trolls-to-me/#comment-21</link>
		<dc:creator>David123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 23:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if you don&#039;t convert the &quot;troll&quot; you may enlighten someone who is just following the dialog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if you don&#8217;t convert the &#8220;troll&#8221; you may enlighten someone who is just following the dialog.</p>
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		<title>By: kellymch</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/kellymch/2009/08/04/will-someone-please-explain-trolls-to-me/#comment-20</link>
		<dc:creator>kellymch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 17:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for what you wrote.  I wasn&#039;t talking about Redstate comments really. I was talking about the comment section on an article about the NRCC.  

Disruption makes the most sense.  I just wonder why.  And who would waste their time like that?  I enjoy reading all views.  I often wonder what makes people reach the decisions that they do.  I realize that I have a completely different worldview than people who are on the &quot;other side.&quot;  But to go to a comments section on an article about the NRCC targeting 70 democratic seats and finding all kinds of vitriol and name-calling....just WOW.

Wouldn&#039;t gambling on ESPN.com be more fun?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for what you wrote.  I wasn&#8217;t talking about Redstate comments really. I was talking about the comment section on an article about the NRCC.  </p>
<p>Disruption makes the most sense.  I just wonder why.  And who would waste their time like that?  I enjoy reading all views.  I often wonder what makes people reach the decisions that they do.  I realize that I have a completely different worldview than people who are on the &#8220;other side.&#8221;  But to go to a comments section on an article about the NRCC targeting 70 democratic seats and finding all kinds of vitriol and name-calling&#8230;.just WOW.</p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t gambling on ESPN.com be more fun?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike gamecock DeVine</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/kellymch/2009/08/04/will-someone-please-explain-trolls-to-me/#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike gamecock DeVine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 16:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>identify as such. But I don&#039;t see it as manipulation to rebut false arguments and try to persuade lurkers that may think the same as the &quot;troll&quot; to change their minds. I have been winning converts in this way, whether here at RS or cocktail parties in the 90s. Sometimes people will come up to me months and years later and tell me that I had that effect.

Now, of course, some come here with nefarious intentions, but I just try respond to the actual words on the page whether from a regular or a newbie.

Of course, I am for banning thise that use profanity or spam and after a long long time persist in asking the same question over and over and over but when it comes to the use of certain words or phrases, I don&#039;t favor blamming or not blamming over the use of the same phrase based on longevity or credibility.

Moreover, many of those blammed are blammed for liberal talking points that we all see as ridiculous, but many not trolls lurk here and have been fed those talking points, and many can and are won over when they finally here a logical refutation of same. That is what i seek to do.

But as I have said over and over, I do pretend to understand the policy here in the way it has been applied, and being all about winning people over to conservatism to win elections so we can save this country, I will continue to do so till I take my last breath at all venues where I am welcome, and it has been a special joy of my life to have discovered Redstate soon after my conservative epiphany earlier this decade as I have made many great friends here on and off the site and my prominence at Redstate is primarily responsible for the fact that I am a conservative voice at three major newspapers and have been published in the WSJ, NYT and on Instapundit, Hugh Hewitt, etc.

I am grateful.

God bless</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>identify as such. But I don&#8217;t see it as manipulation to rebut false arguments and try to persuade lurkers that may think the same as the &#8220;troll&#8221; to change their minds. I have been winning converts in this way, whether here at RS or cocktail parties in the 90s. Sometimes people will come up to me months and years later and tell me that I had that effect.</p>
<p>Now, of course, some come here with nefarious intentions, but I just try respond to the actual words on the page whether from a regular or a newbie.</p>
<p>Of course, I am for banning thise that use profanity or spam and after a long long time persist in asking the same question over and over and over but when it comes to the use of certain words or phrases, I don&#8217;t favor blamming or not blamming over the use of the same phrase based on longevity or credibility.</p>
<p>Moreover, many of those blammed are blammed for liberal talking points that we all see as ridiculous, but many not trolls lurk here and have been fed those talking points, and many can and are won over when they finally here a logical refutation of same. That is what i seek to do.</p>
<p>But as I have said over and over, I do pretend to understand the policy here in the way it has been applied, and being all about winning people over to conservatism to win elections so we can save this country, I will continue to do so till I take my last breath at all venues where I am welcome, and it has been a special joy of my life to have discovered Redstate soon after my conservative epiphany earlier this decade as I have made many great friends here on and off the site and my prominence at Redstate is primarily responsible for the fact that I am a conservative voice at three major newspapers and have been published in the WSJ, NYT and on Instapundit, Hugh Hewitt, etc.</p>
<p>I am grateful.</p>
<p>God bless</p>
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		<title>By: Skanderbeg</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/kellymch/2009/08/04/will-someone-please-explain-trolls-to-me/#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>Skanderbeg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 16:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s actually a difficult question, Kelly - and there really isn&#039;t one single reason for them.

As others have noted, some just have too much time on their hands and come over to just show off their self-perceived intellectual superiority.  (Never underestimate the amount of chaos that can be caused by stupid people who fancy themselves smart.)

But the main theme is probably disruption - since that&#039;s a specialty of the other side.  It&#039;s the same kind of crud you see with creeps who stand up during speeches and just shout and yell - it doesn&#039;t serve any other purpose than to be disruptive (and display &quot;genuine anger&quot; which to that lot actually means something).

And from what&#039;s sometimes happened with the comments in some of my pieces, they seem to send people in to deposit stuff in the comments mainly to try to interfere with the author&#039;s narrative.  This seems to be defensive in nature; they&#039;re worried that some of their less-solid folks - who may be &quot;questioning&quot; :O - might wander in and get a good education which will &quot;convert&quot; them; thus, they drop in their propaganda b.s. to try to keep those folks in line and on the(ir) reservation.

Just my experienced $0.02 worth....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s actually a difficult question, Kelly &#8211; and there really isn&#8217;t one single reason for them.</p>
<p>As others have noted, some just have too much time on their hands and come over to just show off their self-perceived intellectual superiority.  (Never underestimate the amount of chaos that can be caused by stupid people who fancy themselves smart.)</p>
<p>But the main theme is probably disruption &#8211; since that&#8217;s a specialty of the other side.  It&#8217;s the same kind of crud you see with creeps who stand up during speeches and just shout and yell &#8211; it doesn&#8217;t serve any other purpose than to be disruptive (and display &#8220;genuine anger&#8221; which to that lot actually means something).</p>
<p>And from what&#8217;s sometimes happened with the comments in some of my pieces, they seem to send people in to deposit stuff in the comments mainly to try to interfere with the author&#8217;s narrative.  This seems to be defensive in nature; they&#8217;re worried that some of their less-solid folks &#8211; who may be &#8220;questioning&#8221; :O &#8211; might wander in and get a good education which will &#8220;convert&#8221; them; thus, they drop in their propaganda b.s. to try to keep those folks in line and on the(ir) reservation.</p>
<p>Just my experienced $0.02 worth&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Stevens</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/kellymch/2009/08/04/will-someone-please-explain-trolls-to-me/#comment-17</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You just admitted that you let trolls manipulate you.  You feel compelled to reply to them, to &#039;educate&#039; them, despite the fact that they&#039;re not here in good faith and aren&#039;t going to be persuaded.

THAT is why they are able to make a disruption.  People like you are suckered into taking them at face value and arguing with them all day about whatever they want to argue about.

That&#039;s why trolls win, that&#039;s why I&#039;m a pain about threadjacks, and that&#039;s why I let the blamstick fire like the cannons on the light brigade.

Theirs is not to question why. Theirs is but to post and die.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You just admitted that you let trolls manipulate you.  You feel compelled to reply to them, to &#8216;educate&#8217; them, despite the fact that they&#8217;re not here in good faith and aren&#8217;t going to be persuaded.</p>
<p>THAT is why they are able to make a disruption.  People like you are suckered into taking them at face value and arguing with them all day about whatever they want to argue about.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why trolls win, that&#8217;s why I&#8217;m a pain about threadjacks, and that&#8217;s why I let the blamstick fire like the cannons on the light brigade.</p>
<p>Theirs is not to question why. Theirs is but to post and die.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Mullins</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/kellymch/2009/08/04/will-someone-please-explain-trolls-to-me/#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Mullins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve seen plenty of them, these do take the cake.</description>
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		<title>By: Mike gamecock DeVine</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/kellymch/2009/08/04/will-someone-please-explain-trolls-to-me/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike gamecock DeVine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>here, based on my four year study</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here, based on my four year study</p>
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