For the second time in 4 months, the forces of Obamacare have failed to bend the “Stupak 12″ to their will. The End Game for Obamacare is finally approaching.
The AP reports:
Top House Democrats said they have given up trying to win over some conservative Democrats demanding that the bill strictly bar federal aid for abortion. That means they likely will have to win converts from among 39 House Democrats who voted against the House’s initial health bill in November.
This shows how “serious” Pelosi et al were about addressing Stupak’s concerns, and how un-Nelson-like the House holdouts on this issue have been. Nelson caved in days, and the “discussions” with Stupak lasted what—5 minutes?
I wouldn’t call Stupak “conservative” in any way (he supports a “public option”) and for the most part, “Blue Dog” status is more mythological than unicorns and dragons. However, on the issue of abortion funding, there is good reason to conclude that there is actually some pro-life integrity on the Democrat side in the House, and that integrity should be commended. Does this surprise me? Yes, but what a pleasant surprise.
The irony that abortion funding will be the final torpedo in comprehensive health reform is simply delicious. The Hyde Amendment has been the law of the land for years, but the inability of democrats to continue to live under the principle of the Hydge Amendment will in the end, the death knell for their generational desire for HCR.
TIme to remain vigilent, but prepare for celebration (i.e. time to stock up on some extra adult beverages)!
Moe Lane
Steve Maley
Dan McLaughlin
Neil Stevens
Daniel Horowitz
Don't count them out
RealQuiet (Diary) Friday, March 12th at 12:00PM EST (link)They are trying every little trick and tactic in the book.
Agreed. I nonetheless predict that in the end . . .
JSobieski (Diary) Friday, March 12th at 12:35PM EST (link)there is going to be a straight up vote in the House on the Senate Bill, and the Senate Bill will be rejected. Any reconciliation-type fixes are going to move the dial very much, and thus will be abandoned before a vote is actually taken.
With the abortion issue out of the way, the other individual fixes are too challenging to fix due to the procedural issues and they are not the all or nothing issue that abortion is.
The End Game is approaching, one way of the other. If Obamacare is going to pass, it will need to pass before Easter.
My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.
STOP THE MADNESS!
A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!
And yet today Pelosi said she's only 4 votes shy.
Mary Beth (Diary) Friday, March 12th at 1:45PM EST (link)Per AOSHQ…she’s 4 shy today and was 7 shy yesterday.
How that computes I can’t even begin to imagine.
“A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.” ~ Ronald Reagan
Obama says the time for debate is over. If so, let's vote today!
SoFiMil (Diary) Friday, March 12th at 1:58PM EST (link)And why is Obama delaying his Asian trip? I remember the day before one of the Presiential debates, he said,” It’s going to be part of the president’s job to be able to deal with more than one thing at once.”
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122586043326400685.html
Regardless, the economic situation is in needs of much more immediate attention than any health care reform.
www.suvstrategery.blogspot.com
I think they know that it is now or never, so Obama delayed his trip
JSobieski (Diary) Friday, March 12th at 3:07PM EST (link)I wouldn’t buy into false statement of euphoria by Pelosi et al.
My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.
STOP THE MADNESS!
A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!
It's one thing to tell yourself they're going to present a false sense of momentum...
Mary Beth (Diary) Friday, March 12th at 5:48PM EST (link)…it’s another thing to experience it.
I feel like I’m bi-polar at this point. I’m up up up! thinking there’s no way this can happen…then I see things like the Slaughter maneuver and I’m reminded that there are no boundaries these people won’t cross to make this happen.
So while the reasonable part of my mind says this is just a trick, the panicky part of me freaks out and wonders if they’ll get it done…their constituent and the Constitution be damned.
“A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.” ~ Ronald Reagan
If you get that jittery, its time to unplug for the weekend
JSobieski (Diary) Friday, March 12th at 7:33PM EST (link)Nothing is going to happen until Monday in any case. The MSM is just going to report on all sorts of rumors.
My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.
STOP THE MADNESS!
A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!
after seeing Stupak on Greta...
speciallist (Diary) Friday, March 12th at 3:12PM EST (link)how could he possibly vote for it now?
if he votes for the senate bill after all this posturing…he’ll go down as a bigger POS liar than even Barry….
well almost…
Stupak was threatened w/ ethics complaints over this, they're playin desperation hardball.
Common_Cents (Diary) Friday, March 12th at 6:54PM EST (link)Stupak: “And the politics of the issue are pretty rough. “This has really reached an unhealthy stage,” Stupak says. “People are threatening ethics complaints on me. On the left, they’re really stepping it up. Every day, from Rachel Maddow to the Daily Kos, it keeps coming. Does it bother me? Sure. Does it change my position? No.”
There is much deception and posturing going around but actions speak louder than words, no vote yet so they don’t havem.
Obama delaying his trip ups the ante. Is Pelosi about to meet the underside of the ObamaBus if she fails? Via MassaGate?
Obama=Golfer in Chief, Leading from,
behind, the Back Nine.Leaders don’t create movements. Movements create leaders. Get involved. Your future depends on it.
Govt “invests” YOUR tax money for POLITICAL return rather than economic return.
I wouldn't celebrate, but if they had the votes,
renny (Diary) Friday, March 12th at 7:24PM EST (link)they’d vote now.
You have to keep up the pressure to counter Kos and moviealong.org. 202-224/225-3121.
Sehd letters to your Cong. person and the “blue dogs.”
http://www.Capitolconnect.com/freeourhealthcarenow/default.aspx