Without this investigation, I doubt Massa would have stayed a no if the vote came down to him. Same with Kucinich. They’d never do something that crazy. But now? Now I think if he refuses to resign that he will indeed vote against the bill just to spite Hoyer and Pelosi.

And I fully encourage him to do so.

Cao is a known flip to make it 219-216 among the originals. Abercrombie and Wexler voted yes but have resigned, so it’s down to 217-216. Murtha voted yes but he’s gone too, so that drops it to 216-216.

So even if Stupak’s crew stays on board it goes down unless a no flips to yes to make it 217-215 or disappears to make it 216-215. Deal could have made the latter happen, so he’s holding off his resignation. If Massa does the same then we’re still at 216-216.

With it a tie, Pelosi needs one more no-to-yes flip than any Stupak yes-to-no flips.

Obama and his administration of cronies is so driven and obsessed about passing Obama care because of how important Obama Care is to the advancement and implementation of the socialist/Marxist agenda:
“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” – Vladimir Lenin

“Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word, equality.
But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty,
socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude.”
Alexis de Tocqueville, 1805-59

Reduced to its lowest common denominator, Marxism is government
managing society. Freedom is society managing government.

…and there’s credible evidence that he uses his position to sexually harass his subordinates. He only opposed this legislation because it isn’t single-payer, which means that if push came to shove he’d break anyway. So you can’t even rely on him being a steadfast no vote.

Massa can deal with the consequences of his karma on his own, thanks.

From what I heard on Beck this morning, he switched to Democrat because he disagreed with parts of the Iraq war.

He voted against Crap and Tax, and he voted against Obamacare the first time around.

Speaking of ethics, think Rangel. No ethics lapses are justifiable, but, Rangel has been having ethics lapses for years, and has been using our tax payer dollars in order to do so, while avoiding paying his own taxes. So now, Massa becomes the Democrat version of the Republicans Foley. Pelosi isn’t trying to run him out of town because of his sexual ethics, she is trying to run him out of town because she thinks it unethical to vote against Obamacare.

I hope he stays and does become the deciding vote for Obamacare to go down. In that respect, he will be a hero.

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Massa is a liberal and is a darling of them at their recent convention

The guy to me comes off as a bit of a nut. The only angle I care about is corrupt one

Either way they lose.

Vote YES for the POS HealthCare bill and lose.

Vote NO for the POS HealthCare bill and lose.

These idiots have to realize that by voting NO they can sink Pelosi
and perhaps save their pathetic slimy jobs a few more years.

Pelosi cannot do a Massa shuffle on every freshmen. This would only destroy the recruiting efforts of the dems. If I were a dem I would declare as an independent and get out of the way of the falling house of Pelosi.

This is thug politics 101. It is all about intimidation. When we’re naked, we’re vulnerable. We don’t expect to be accosted, and we’re immediately on the defensive if something goes amiss. Massa’s telling of this story suggested that this is NOT an unusual thing for Rahm. It is calculated to put the people Rahm is confronting in a vulnerable position in which they feel neither secure nor safe. They don’t have the the surface security afforded by clothing, and he gets in their faces and shouts them down in a situation where they’re most ready to be cowed.