Comments on: DeVore’s Abortion Critique of Fiorina Without Merit

By: gahazzah

gahazzah — Wed, 26 Aug 2009 04:55:51 +0000

That’s how CA got stuck with Arnold. The GOP forgot their remedial math skills and supported the “only” candidate who could win when combined the two GOP candidates beat the DNC 2-1 and mathematically McClintock could have easily taken the Governor’s mansion.

My same question is posed as always – what’s the point in voting for anybody so long as they’re followed by the letter (R)? Are we all still stuck on Sesame Street?

By: drothgery

drothgery — Wed, 26 Aug 2009 02:45:24 +0000

Barring extraordinarily favorable circumstances, we’re not going to win a governor or senate race in CA.

I don’t know who I’ll vote for in the primary (though I’ll certainly vote for our nominee in the general, even if it’s tilting at windmills). But ability to self-fund is a major plus when it costs a ton to get within striking distance and winning is, to put it mildly, unlikely.

By: gahazzah

gahazzah — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 23:00:30 +0000

Bill Simon had his own money and he got trounced. Arnold had his own money and he’s a joke.

I’m tired of GOP candidates who’s only qualifications are that they’re sponsored by a full bank account and the letter (R).

By: RightSideRedux

RightSideRedux — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 22:56:41 +0000

http://www.redstate.com/trevino/2009/08/25/carly-fiorina-and-life-issues-unanswered-questions/

By: Josh LeGuern

Josh LeGuern — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 20:41:42 +0000

I’m sure Chuck DeVore is a good guy, but he just doesn’t seem all “there” to me in terms of political acumen.

This just seals it for me. I’ll be voting for Carly Fiorina, whom I thought was unfairly dumped by the McCain when she made one gaffe.

She seems like someone who can give >ahem< Senator Boxer a run for her money.

By: Erick Brockway

Erick Brockway — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 18:44:52 +0000

…it turns out to be business as usual when picking candidates.
Too often someone with a lot of money can just write a check and be Senator (ala Huffington, Boxer, Feinstein, possibly now Fiori), while the in the trenches fighters are left to whither for lack of big funding.
Where’s OUR George Soros (-the malice)?
Although I’d much prefer a former CEO looking for her next position in life to Boxer, I’d REALLY prefer someone like DeVore whom I’ve seen stand up to the opposition and not back down, than a political unknown with a fat bank account.
Lot of changes lately, but it’s looking on our side of the isle; the more things change, the more they stay the same.

By: noufa

noufa — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 18:25:40 +0000

…in a national election. He’d never try that back in MA. Did he?

By: noufa

noufa — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 18:20:34 +0000

But it’s still depressing that statewide CA races are won by whoever puts out the better TV commercials. Ever been through the Iowa caucuses? Even after losing, it’s still inspiring to be part of such an informative, transparent process.

By: mikefisk

mikefisk — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:24:36 +0000

“In the public’s consciousness” doesn’t mean it’s not moving at a glacial pace. It’s been “in the public’s consciousness” for almost forty years now, with precious little ground being made on either side, and our elected officials really can’t do much on it besides the abhorrent position of subsidizing it, which is the fight we really need to win.

Maybe it’s that I don’t understand it as much, being young and without children. I’ll accept that.

By: RedBeard

RedBeard — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:12:19 +0000

Likely true, but it’s not generally wise to take the pronouncements of any politician as gospel, not without verification of some sort.

Please don’t accuse me of likening these two people to one another; that would be heresy. But I do recall Hillary Clinton, a product of the north side of Chicago (vehement Cubs territory) claiming to be a “life-long Yankees fan” when she went carpetbagging to the Empire State. Call me extremely skeptical in her case, and at least cautious in Fiorino’s case.

By: penguin2

penguin2 — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:54:46 +0000

Right now, concerns about life are very much in the public’s consciousness. And you cannot divorce the position a candidate has on abortion for the very real debate going on about health care in this country. I understand pragmatism, but we should know the real position of a candidate. Not the pc one that turns out to be a contradiction to our core values.

By: drothgery

drothgery — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:50:19 +0000

… where the national party or the state party is basically flushing money down the toilet if it’s spending money on a statewide race, yes, we’d prefer candidates with their own money.

By: mikefisk

mikefisk — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:46:46 +0000

While I agree that the conviction is important, I guess I’m just more concerned about being able to provide, through our elected officials, a forceful direction to issues that could imminently be taken into far worse directions, and let the grassroots organizations be more concerned with keeping the slow-burning stuff in the public consciousness.

By: penguin2

penguin2 — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:39:00 +0000

Your statement “we have precisely no real ability to affect in any tangible aspects, thanks to the courts.” Throwing up our hands and accepting the status quo is exactly the reason why we have the number of abortions we do today. Educating the people about abortion and the taking of human life should never stop and alternative news and information sources, compliments of the internet, is going to at least make people aware.

The discussion about abortion is not going to go away. In fact, it certainly can/may become a significant part of the Health Care debate today. Fighting Obama and the leftists is all about fighting for life. The abortion “debate” has just been widened to include the entire lifecyle of the individual. Look at the bill. IMO, the answers gleaned from a candidate on abortion will correlate directly to how they view rationing of health care and end of life decisions. And that’s for whether you are old or not.

By: paulag1955

paulag1955 — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:37:51 +0000

It’s not just the GOP that prefers independently wealthy candidates.

By: Neil Stevens

Neil Stevens — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:20:37 +0000

Which is what DeVore is doing by pressing Fiorina on abortion.

By: Neil Stevens

Neil Stevens — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:18:57 +0000

By: Neil Stevens

Neil Stevens — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:18:11 +0000

So what is the evidence, James?

I’m open to the possibility that Fiorinia is merely a novice who happens to be pro-life.

But I need more than her saying she’s pro-life. After all, Jon Carry said that, as have many other politicians with viciously pro-abort voting records.

By: mikefisk

mikefisk — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:14:43 +0000

…then we’re more screwed than we know.

While it’s a good barometer for the overall cultural sentiment of the candidate, it’s also the one issue that we have precisely no real ability to affect in any tangible aspect, thanks to the courts. It’s the one issue that we aren’t going to get swing voters on; people don’t really swing on the life issue.

If this is the best that Chuck DeVore can come up with to distinguish his candidacy, then he’s an embarrassment as a candidate. Demagoguery only goes so far.

By: proudgop

proudgop — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:12:07 +0000

I wish Reagan’s rule was applied to republicans lately.

Though shall not speak unkindly of another Republican

Boxer must be laughing over this.