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		<title>By: Martin Knight</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/jrichardson/2009/08/11/obamas-doublspeak-on-single-payer-health-care-systems/#comment-1113</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 05:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the GOP went the Swifties&#039; route, raising funds specifically for running specific ads, I doubt they&#039;d be much trouble in raising enough money to put them on the air. Unlike most of last year (pre-Palin), the base is riled up enough to part with its cash.

Heck, the RNC may even end up with some money for the bank in the end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the GOP went the Swifties&#8217; route, raising funds specifically for running specific ads, I doubt they&#8217;d be much trouble in raising enough money to put them on the air. Unlike most of last year (pre-Palin), the base is riled up enough to part with its cash.</p>
<p>Heck, the RNC may even end up with some money for the bank in the end.</p>
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		<title>By: m1garand</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/jrichardson/2009/08/11/obamas-doublspeak-on-single-payer-health-care-systems/#comment-1112</link>
		<dc:creator>m1garand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 05:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do these politicians think this is 1909 or 2009?
Don&#039;t they know that anyone with a computer can pull up the things these politicians have said in the past? But they still tell a bald face lie!
Obama has aid numerous times that he will support single payer insurance. Yet today he says he never has supported it. What the??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do these politicians think this is 1909 or 2009?<br />
Don&#8217;t they know that anyone with a computer can pull up the things these politicians have said in the past? But they still tell a bald face lie!<br />
Obama has aid numerous times that he will support single payer insurance. Yet today he says he never has supported it. What the??</p>
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		<title>By: 1stRichard</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/jrichardson/2009/08/11/obamas-doublspeak-on-single-payer-health-care-systems/#comment-1111</link>
		<dc:creator>1stRichard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 03:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a local counter protest deep behind enemy lines in W/Mass I got to meet the supporters of Obamacare and look at what I found…  

Welcome to Single Payer Now!

http://singlepayernow.net/ 

Single Payer Action

http://www.singlepayeraction.org/ 

Heath Care Now Organizing for a national single payer healthcare system  

http://www.healthcare-now.org/  

The “International Socialist Organization”, heck some agenda?  

“Local representatives from other allied groups turned out as well. They included Mass-Care/, Physicians for a National Health Plan, Desmond Callan Community Health Center, Franklin/Hampshire Health Care Coalition, International Socialist Organization, League of Women Voters, Mass. Nurses Association, Mass. Public Health Association, Social Workers for Peace and Justice, UAW Local 2322, and the Mass. Senior Citizens Council.” 

http://www.pdamerica.org/articles/chapters/ma-2009-05-28-11-46-45-chapters.php 

Why are these groups not headline news as to the truth of what we are headed toward? 

I was told flat out many times they are supporting HR676 but also support HR3200 as a stepping stone of sorts. In glancing at the two HR676 could be hidden in HR3200 as the two have the similar vagueness. 

Anyway our government was divided by our constitution to have the majority of power in the hands of the private sector and the states “We the People”. Now we have the government owning the banks to car makers and now they want to do the same with your health. We have inalienable liberties so written in our constitution, we the people and not we the government. Among these are life, charity and much more belongs in the hands of the people and not the government and they were put there for a reason a reason. This healthcare no mater how you put it is a step in the wrong direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a local counter protest deep behind enemy lines in W/Mass I got to meet the supporters of Obamacare and look at what I found…  </p>
<p>Welcome to Single Payer Now!</p>
<p>http://singlepayernow.net/ </p>
<p>Single Payer Action</p>
<p>http://www.singlepayeraction.org/ </p>
<p>Heath Care Now Organizing for a national single payer healthcare system  </p>
<p>http://www.healthcare-now.org/  </p>
<p>The “International Socialist Organization”, heck some agenda?  </p>
<p>“Local representatives from other allied groups turned out as well. They included Mass-Care/, Physicians for a National Health Plan, Desmond Callan Community Health Center, Franklin/Hampshire Health Care Coalition, International Socialist Organization, League of Women Voters, Mass. Nurses Association, Mass. Public Health Association, Social Workers for Peace and Justice, UAW Local 2322, and the Mass. Senior Citizens Council.” </p>
<p>http://www.pdamerica.org/articles/chapters/ma-2009-05-28-11-46-45-chapters.php </p>
<p>Why are these groups not headline news as to the truth of what we are headed toward? </p>
<p>I was told flat out many times they are supporting HR676 but also support HR3200 as a stepping stone of sorts. In glancing at the two HR676 could be hidden in HR3200 as the two have the similar vagueness. </p>
<p>Anyway our government was divided by our constitution to have the majority of power in the hands of the private sector and the states “We the People”. Now we have the government owning the banks to car makers and now they want to do the same with your health. We have inalienable liberties so written in our constitution, we the people and not we the government. Among these are life, charity and much more belongs in the hands of the people and not the government and they were put there for a reason a reason. This healthcare no mater how you put it is a step in the wrong direction.</p>
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		<title>By: Old_Crow</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/jrichardson/2009/08/11/obamas-doublspeak-on-single-payer-health-care-systems/#comment-1110</link>
		<dc:creator>Old_Crow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 01:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. Limit excessive litigation costs (up to $260 B per year).  How many Johnny Edwards do we need to support anyway.

2. Crack down on Medicaid and Medicare fraud.  Approx 10% in outright fraud and another 20% of inefficiencies and &#039;soft fraud&#039;.

3.  Allow insurance companies to freely compete across state lines.  Eliminate the state minimum requirements.

4.  Allow individuals to have the same health insurance tax deductions that companies are allowed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Limit excessive litigation costs (up to $260 B per year).  How many Johnny Edwards do we need to support anyway.</p>
<p>2. Crack down on Medicaid and Medicare fraud.  Approx 10% in outright fraud and another 20% of inefficiencies and &#8216;soft fraud&#8217;.</p>
<p>3.  Allow insurance companies to freely compete across state lines.  Eliminate the state minimum requirements.</p>
<p>4.  Allow individuals to have the same health insurance tax deductions that companies are allowed.</p>
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		<title>By: izoneguy</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/jrichardson/2009/08/11/obamas-doublspeak-on-single-payer-health-care-systems/#comment-1109</link>
		<dc:creator>izoneguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 01:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A: Costs big bucks
B: It has to be vetted....
I mean you have to get people&#039;s approval to use their likeness...
C: You cannot just rip it off of YouTube and produce a spot.....

The GOP should have a way for people to send high-res clips to them
with all the releases....

The left is nortious for ripping stuff off and plastering it on TV....
They always beg forgivess instead of asking for permission...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A: Costs big bucks<br />
B: It has to be vetted&#8230;.<br />
I mean you have to get people&#8217;s approval to use their likeness&#8230;<br />
C: You cannot just rip it off of YouTube and produce a spot&#8230;..</p>
<p>The GOP should have a way for people to send high-res clips to them<br />
with all the releases&#8230;.</p>
<p>The left is nortious for ripping stuff off and plastering it on TV&#8230;.<br />
They always beg forgivess instead of asking for permission&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: James Richardson</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/jrichardson/2009/08/11/obamas-doublspeak-on-single-payer-health-care-systems/#comment-1108</link>
		<dc:creator>James Richardson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The RNC&#039;s latest ad, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.redstate.com/jrichardson/2009/08/05/rnc-obama-in-denial&quot;&gt;&quot;In Denial,&quot;&lt;/a&gt; was quite impressive, Martin. 

That is not to say that they should not be doing more, but I think lately they have stepped it up a notch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The RNC&#8217;s latest ad, <a href="http://www.redstate.com/jrichardson/2009/08/05/rnc-obama-in-denial">&#8220;In Denial,&#8221;</a> was quite impressive, Martin. </p>
<p>That is not to say that they should not be doing more, but I think lately they have stepped it up a notch.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Knight</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/jrichardson/2009/08/11/obamas-doublspeak-on-single-payer-health-care-systems/#comment-1107</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some effort to answer the silly charges against the GOP would also be nice. 

Republicans should take the opportunity at &lt;i&gt;their&lt;/i&gt; townhalls (if they&#039;re even having them) to introduce Americans to all this (Hacker, Ezekiel Emanuel&#039;s Complete Lives Scheme, Obama in front of AFL-CIO) and get it all online at gop.com.

The RNC, NRCC, NRSC, etc. should set up ad production teams constantly churning ads out, uploading them on YouTube and putting them up on their websites with individual Donate buttons below to get them on the national/regional airwaves.

New media is good but not enough. We need to do both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some effort to answer the silly charges against the GOP would also be nice. </p>
<p>Republicans should take the opportunity at <i>their</i> townhalls (if they&#8217;re even having them) to introduce Americans to all this (Hacker, Ezekiel Emanuel&#8217;s Complete Lives Scheme, Obama in front of AFL-CIO) and get it all online at gop.com.</p>
<p>The RNC, NRCC, NRSC, etc. should set up ad production teams constantly churning ads out, uploading them on YouTube and putting them up on their websites with individual Donate buttons below to get them on the national/regional airwaves.</p>
<p>New media is good but not enough. We need to do both.</p>
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		<title>By: James Richardson</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/jrichardson/2009/08/11/obamas-doublspeak-on-single-payer-health-care-systems/#comment-1106</link>
		<dc:creator>James Richardson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Capital Hill takes note of Redstate. Use the venue to your advantage.

If you want the GOP to start beating the drum loudly, then set the tone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Capital Hill takes note of Redstate. Use the venue to your advantage.</p>
<p>If you want the GOP to start beating the drum loudly, then set the tone.</p>
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		<title>By: DerKrieger</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/jrichardson/2009/08/11/obamas-doublspeak-on-single-payer-health-care-systems/#comment-1105</link>
		<dc:creator>DerKrieger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that the GOP wants to &quot;derail substantive health care reform.&quot; must be answered. I&#039;m sick and tired of the repetition of this canard. 

The GOP needs to be beating the drum loudly about their free market alternatives to Obamacare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that the GOP wants to &#8220;derail substantive health care reform.&#8221; must be answered. I&#8217;m sick and tired of the repetition of this canard. </p>
<p>The GOP needs to be beating the drum loudly about their free market alternatives to Obamacare.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik_S</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/jrichardson/2009/08/11/obamas-doublspeak-on-single-payer-health-care-systems/#comment-1104</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik_S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 22:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you repeat a lie enough it WILL become a truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you repeat a lie enough it WILL become a truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Rod_Patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/jrichardson/2009/08/11/obamas-doublspeak-on-single-payer-health-care-systems/#comment-1103</link>
		<dc:creator>Rod_Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 22:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>he thinks that his flip flops can still go on &quot;unnoticed&quot;.

It&#039;s like listening to an idiot:

FLIP-FLOP-FLIP-FLOP-FLIP-FLOP-FLIP-FLOP.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he thinks that his flip flops can still go on &#8220;unnoticed&#8221;.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like listening to an idiot:</p>
<p>FLIP-FLOP-FLIP-FLOP-FLIP-FLOP-FLIP-FLOP&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Mike gamecock DeVine</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/jrichardson/2009/08/11/obamas-doublspeak-on-single-payer-health-care-systems/#comment-1102</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike gamecock DeVine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 22:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.redstate.com/gamecock/2009/08/11/would-that-elected-republicans-would-raise-their-voices-in-other-halls/

So he speaks the &quot;the bill that will be hashed out in the Fall&quot; as if there wasn&#039;t enough hashing out by Dems over the past 6 months since they took power; 16 years since HillaryCare went down or 60 yrs since Truman failed.

The House bill doesn&#039;t use the words single payor and neither will any bill that passes, so we can&#039;t let that fact be used by the dems to refute the arguments against the bill. The bill does make it likely that private ins cos would eventually go out of business. But even if we never had single payor, the bill stinks.

more later</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>http://www.redstate.com/gamecock/2009/08/11/would-that-elected-republicans-would-raise-their-voices-in-other-halls/</p>
<p>So he speaks the &#8220;the bill that will be hashed out in the Fall&#8221; as if there wasn&#8217;t enough hashing out by Dems over the past 6 months since they took power; 16 years since HillaryCare went down or 60 yrs since Truman failed.</p>
<p>The House bill doesn&#8217;t use the words single payor and neither will any bill that passes, so we can&#8217;t let that fact be used by the dems to refute the arguments against the bill. The bill does make it likely that private ins cos would eventually go out of business. But even if we never had single payor, the bill stinks.</p>
<p>more later</p>
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		<title>By: Erik_S</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/jrichardson/2009/08/11/obamas-doublspeak-on-single-payer-health-care-systems/#comment-1101</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik_S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 22:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A)  the general American public is as dumb as his administration thinks it is.  That they will buy the explanation (to paraphrase) &quot;oh, they just clipped some old footage together out of context using sophisticated editing software&quot; because &quot;hey, computers made it look like Forest Gump was standing right there with Kennedy&quot;.

B)  his administration can spin enough ambiguity and plausibility that the general public will just throw up their arms and say &quot;whatever, I&#039;ve got a life to live&quot; (it&#039;s happened before) or just get too confused to really nail him down.  Ever try to hold down a greased pig?  Neither have I, but it sounds hard.

C)  the majority of the general public isn&#039;t paying close enough attention to really digest any information other than what they are being fed at that moment.

D)  his administration and the democratic leadership can taint enough of the &quot;mob crowd&quot; with the stank of &quot;racist&quot;, that others who may be swayed will think twice about following.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A)  the general American public is as dumb as his administration thinks it is.  That they will buy the explanation (to paraphrase) &#8220;oh, they just clipped some old footage together out of context using sophisticated editing software&#8221; because &#8220;hey, computers made it look like Forest Gump was standing right there with Kennedy&#8221;.</p>
<p>B)  his administration can spin enough ambiguity and plausibility that the general public will just throw up their arms and say &#8220;whatever, I&#8217;ve got a life to live&#8221; (it&#8217;s happened before) or just get too confused to really nail him down.  Ever try to hold down a greased pig?  Neither have I, but it sounds hard.</p>
<p>C)  the majority of the general public isn&#8217;t paying close enough attention to really digest any information other than what they are being fed at that moment.</p>
<p>D)  his administration and the democratic leadership can taint enough of the &#8220;mob crowd&#8221; with the stank of &#8220;racist&#8221;, that others who may be swayed will think twice about following.</p>
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		<title>By: Old_Crow</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/jrichardson/2009/08/11/obamas-doublspeak-on-single-payer-health-care-systems/#comment-1100</link>
		<dc:creator>Old_Crow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 22:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>they have jumped the shark.  I thought Bam was a smoother liar but he must either be very comfortable that the msm has got his back, or he&#039;s losing his touch. 
 
I actually read the House bill since I&#039;ve had a lot of time to kill on international flights lately, it&#039;s scary (and poorly written).

The government just doesn&#039;t belong in the health care business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they have jumped the shark.  I thought Bam was a smoother liar but he must either be very comfortable that the msm has got his back, or he&#8217;s losing his touch. </p>
<p>I actually read the House bill since I&#8217;ve had a lot of time to kill on international flights lately, it&#8217;s scary (and poorly written).</p>
<p>The government just doesn&#8217;t belong in the health care business.</p>
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		<title>By: greggersmd1</title>
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		<dc:creator>greggersmd1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 22:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People such as scientist Stephen Hawking wouldn’t have a chance in the U.K., where the National Health Service would say the life of this brilliant man, because of his physical handicaps, is essentially worthless.

- Human Events</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People such as scientist Stephen Hawking wouldn’t have a chance in the U.K., where the National Health Service would say the life of this brilliant man, because of his physical handicaps, is essentially worthless.</p>
<p>- Human Events</p>
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		<title>By: louisiana</title>
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		<dc:creator>louisiana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 21:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He&#039;d rather climb a 30-ft. flag pole &amp; tell a lie, when it&#039;s easier to stay on the
ground &amp; tell the truth.  I cannot listen to him, I cannot look at him, without consuming half a bottle of tums.  He&#039;s like my own personal bottle of syrup of ipecac.  I don&#039;t know how I&#039;m going to be able to survive 3.5 more years
of this pathological narcissist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;d rather climb a 30-ft. flag pole &amp; tell a lie, when it&#8217;s easier to stay on the<br />
ground &amp; tell the truth.  I cannot listen to him, I cannot look at him, without consuming half a bottle of tums.  He&#8217;s like my own personal bottle of syrup of ipecac.  I don&#8217;t know how I&#8217;m going to be able to survive 3.5 more years<br />
of this pathological narcissist.</p>
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		<title>By: gonzo55</title>
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		<dc:creator>gonzo55</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 21:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>has been pretty consistent about what he wants to do to the country since long before anyone had heard of him.  Like Hitler, he had numerous platforms (speeches, interviews, his own two-volume  Mein Kampf) before taking office that he took full advantage of to promote his idiotic policy &quot;ideas&quot;.  Much like with WWII and the Holocaust, it&#039;s hard to see why anyone is surprised now that Dear Leader Obama is doing exactly what he said he was going to do before coming to office in nationalizing health care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>has been pretty consistent about what he wants to do to the country since long before anyone had heard of him.  Like Hitler, he had numerous platforms (speeches, interviews, his own two-volume  Mein Kampf) before taking office that he took full advantage of to promote his idiotic policy &#8220;ideas&#8221;.  Much like with WWII and the Holocaust, it&#8217;s hard to see why anyone is surprised now that Dear Leader Obama is doing exactly what he said he was going to do before coming to office in nationalizing health care.</p>
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