Comments on: ABC’s “V” – A Scathing Critique of the Establishment and Obama http://www.redstate.com/joshleguern/2009/11/04/abcs-v-a-scathing-critique-of-the-establishment-and-obama/ Thu, 16 Feb 2012 17:54:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: tankertodd http://www.redstate.com/joshleguern/2009/11/04/abcs-v-a-scathing-critique-of-the-establishment-and-obama/#comment-625 tankertodd Thu, 05 Nov 2009 04:12:26 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/joshleguern/?p=253#comment-625 Just watched it on my DVR after hearing the big numbers the show got. Definitely an allegory for Obama, although the original series that I saw when I was a wee youngster was much more chilling. Having the Holocaust survivor, complete with tattooed serial number, essentially shaking his head like he's seen all of this before. And his grandson enthusiastically joining the youth military., assisting in the round-ups like the Jews the Nazis co-oped to help run their extermination plan. The lesson is that totalitarianism just needs the right conditions and it can happen anywhere. Germans are wonderful people, and look what they turned into. For evil to triumph... It's really true. The new series really has accelerated - probably too fast for my liking. I would prefer they build the lessons up instead of jamming them on us. I think the lessons get lost that way. But what can you do...we all know how V ends up, so there's no shock factor. Guess we can watch the old series. The one thing I did notice was that the resistance guy mentioned that the Visitors fomented chaos in the world with things like "unnecessary wars." That was a clear dig at Bush and Iraq. No likey. Just watched it on my DVR after hearing the big numbers the show got. Definitely an allegory for Obama, although the original series that I saw when I was a wee youngster was much more chilling. Having the Holocaust survivor, complete with tattooed serial number, essentially shaking his head like he’s seen all of this before. And his grandson enthusiastically joining the youth military., assisting in the round-ups like the Jews the Nazis co-oped to help run their extermination plan.

The lesson is that totalitarianism just needs the right conditions and it can happen anywhere. Germans are wonderful people, and look what they turned into. For evil to triumph… It’s really true.

The new series really has accelerated – probably too fast for my liking. I would prefer they build the lessons up instead of jamming them on us. I think the lessons get lost that way. But what can you do…we all know how V ends up, so there’s no shock factor. Guess we can watch the old series.

The one thing I did notice was that the resistance guy mentioned that the Visitors fomented chaos in the world with things like “unnecessary wars.” That was a clear dig at Bush and Iraq. No likey.

]]> By: Ausonius http://www.redstate.com/joshleguern/2009/11/04/abcs-v-a-scathing-critique-of-the-establishment-and-obama/#comment-624 Ausonius Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:51:18 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/joshleguern/?p=253#comment-624 So besides using a ghost-writer for "his" books, MAObama follows the socialist/Communist/totalitarian playbook! So any satire on that playbook will include you! We await the future: keep your eyes and ears open on this story. It is possible that in fact political pusillanimity is at work here. Imagine the $2,000 suits at ABC finding out that suddenly a top Drudge story is "V" - one of their new shows - being a Trojan horse of anti-MAObama satire! Certainly other factors could be at work: don't expect logic from the entertainment "industry." But this has the stench of giving in to political pressure. If they start moving the show around, or pre-empting it (Maybe MAObama will schedule a news conference in its time slot?), then that will be more evidence that they want the show to fail. So besides using a ghost-writer for “his” books, MAObama follows the socialist/Communist/totalitarian playbook!

So any satire on that playbook will include you!

We await the future: keep your eyes and ears open on this story. It is possible that in fact political pusillanimity is at work here.

Imagine the $2,000 suits at ABC finding out that suddenly a top Drudge story is “V” – one of their new shows – being a Trojan horse of anti-MAObama satire!

Certainly other factors could be at work: don’t expect logic from the entertainment “industry.” But this has the stench of giving in to political pressure.

If they start moving the show around, or pre-empting it (Maybe MAObama will schedule a news conference in its time slot?), then that will be more evidence that they want the show to fail.

]]> By: DONTTREADONME http://www.redstate.com/joshleguern/2009/11/04/abcs-v-a-scathing-critique-of-the-establishment-and-obama/#comment-623 DONTTREADONME Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:27:05 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/joshleguern/?p=253#comment-623 So ABC fired the writer and producer that redid a show with the same storyline and it so happened to look like 0bama rhetoric and actions. Its not the writer and producer's fault that 0bama modeled his overtake after the original "V" tv show So ABC fired the writer and producer that redid a show with the same storyline and it so happened to look like 0bama rhetoric and actions. Its not the writer and producer’s fault that 0bama modeled his overtake after the original “V” tv show

]]> By: Ausonius http://www.redstate.com/joshleguern/2009/11/04/abcs-v-a-scathing-critique-of-the-establishment-and-obama/#comment-622 Ausonius Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:15:28 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/joshleguern/?p=253#comment-622 Is somebody choking already on the interpretation of "V" as a satire against Obamamania? See: http://www.thewrap.com/ind-column/ratings-break-out-hamsters-v-hit-9637 We will wait to see what happens, but this is highly curious after the show received smash hit ratings. Is somebody choking already on the interpretation of “V” as a satire against Obamamania?

See:

http://www.thewrap.com/ind-column/ratings-break-out-hamsters-v-hit-9637

We will wait to see what happens, but this is highly curious after the show received smash hit ratings.

]]> By: dvdmsr http://www.redstate.com/joshleguern/2009/11/04/abcs-v-a-scathing-critique-of-the-establishment-and-obama/#comment-621 dvdmsr Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:01:27 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/joshleguern/?p=253#comment-621 cuts in producers and writers on "V" I have to wonder if the pressure has already started. http://www.thewrap.com/ind-column/chuck-out-v-gets-new-leader-9577 cuts in producers and writers on “V” I have to wonder if the pressure has already started.

http://www.thewrap.com/ind-column/chuck-out-v-gets-new-leader-9577

]]> By: aesthete http://www.redstate.com/joshleguern/2009/11/04/abcs-v-a-scathing-critique-of-the-establishment-and-obama/#comment-620 aesthete Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:52:29 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/joshleguern/?p=253#comment-620 Reportedly, it got a Nielson rating of 5.0, which is higher than anything else on TV since Lost premiered, so that's something. Reportedly, it got a Nielson rating of 5.0, which is higher than anything else on TV since Lost premiered, so that’s something.

]]> By: Jaimo http://www.redstate.com/joshleguern/2009/11/04/abcs-v-a-scathing-critique-of-the-establishment-and-obama/#comment-619 Jaimo Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:46:37 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/joshleguern/?p=253#comment-619 The first episode was awesome, however I read yesterday on, I think Politico, that the head writer or whoever was in charge was fired after the muckity mucks saw the first episode and it is being toned down as we speak. So basically, the show will end up sucking just like most everything else on TV lately. The first episode was awesome, however I read yesterday on, I think Politico, that the head writer or whoever was in charge was fired after the muckity mucks saw the first episode and it is being toned down as we speak.

So basically, the show will end up sucking just like most everything else on TV lately.

]]> By: izoneguy http://www.redstate.com/joshleguern/2009/11/04/abcs-v-a-scathing-critique-of-the-establishment-and-obama/#comment-618 izoneguy Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:37:56 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/joshleguern/?p=253#comment-618 sends Mark Lloyd out with a "message" to ABC. Will Van Jones set-up a boycott of ABC advertisers who buy spots on V? sends Mark Lloyd out with a “message” to ABC.
Will Van Jones set-up a boycott of ABC advertisers who buy spots on V?

]]> By: Ausonius http://www.redstate.com/joshleguern/2009/11/04/abcs-v-a-scathing-critique-of-the-establishment-and-obama/#comment-617 Ausonius Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:19:38 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/joshleguern/?p=253#comment-617 will probably turn out to be like those showers in Auschwitz. Thank you for the perceptive review: I posted a small diary yesterday about this, but was unable to catch the show itself. We will see if it catches on, and if the political criticism - subtle and obvious - continues. will probably turn out to be like those showers in Auschwitz.

Thank you for the perceptive review: I posted a small diary yesterday about this, but was unable to catch the show itself.

We will see if it catches on, and if the political criticism – subtle and obvious – continues.

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