If The One tries promoting these, he can always resign.

You mean a future Chinese Ambassador Huntsman should resign if Obama promotes Cap-and-trade in the near future? Do you really know Gov. Huntsman’s positions before making this suggestion? HUNTSMAN IS FOR STIMULUS, BAILOUT AND CLIMATE CHANGE. … not much difference with Obama’s policies, heh! (I haven’t even considered yet his liberal policies on many social issues.) Your position is silly to me. How can Huntsman oppose Cap-and-Trade and resign if he’s actually for it and believes in it?

You said:

My point is that it is the duty of those in the adult party to try to assist the nation in our time of crisis.

Couple of points:

1. Given Huntsman positions on many issues, I’m not sure if he’s part of this so-called Adult Party. If he is, your so-called Adult Party is not “very adult” and mature, after all.

2. I think you’re somehow insinuating about “bipartisanship” for the country’s sake. Did your Adult Party’s bipartisaship work well for the Country in the last 4 years? Maybe. But please admit that it was somehow the main reason why some of the “moderates” and “independents” are presently irritated by your so-called Adult Party.

3. I smell a typical stratagem of Chicago politics here. I repeat: HuffPo won’t be giving this kind of very positive statement involving a Republican for free: With a reach across the political divide for Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman as ambassador to China, President Barack Obama may have sidelined for now a potentially formidable Republican moderate and possible White House challenger in 2012.

>>> Obama needs a few Republicans to sugarcoat his agenda and use the same as scapegoat in the end. Reid is trumpeting the idea that “with just one Republican vote, an entire Bill will become a bipartisan and unity bill”. Apply that to 1 Governor in Obama’s Administration and you get the full Democrat version of “Bipartisanship”.

You said:

Country trumps politics, and whatever buffoon The One picks to replace him has got to be worse.

As I pointed out above, Huntsman is actually worse to the cause of the conservatives and the Country itself in so many issues. Huntsman is both “Cap-and-Trade” and pro-Stimulus. So, I’m not sure anymore if Huntsman is better than an average Liberal wannabe for the said position.

You said:

Sorry if I offended your delicate sensibilities. Would you prefer silliness or nonsense in the future?

No you don’t offend me. I was suggesting a better way of communication. But just take your sorry with you. You know it’s fake. I don’t need it.

On the trite endorsement of HuffPo to the “hypothetical” Huntsman’s 2016 bid, you said:

Not a chance.

Thanks. This response is SENSICAL.

Finally, I stick to my original position that Huntsman is just bashing himself as a Republican if he accepts Obama’s offer. LOL!

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Some links to Huntsman’s Positions on Climate Change:

http://gaia.econ.utah.edu/magazine/support-governor-huntsmans-climate-change-efforts

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=1244181

And your point that Huntsman is no Olympia Snowe is well-taken. I’m simply of the opinion that the Republican Party should try to better match its candidates to its platform.

Can’t the GOP try running a conservative for a change?

- JP

So who do you support in 2012? I’d rather just hear that.

As for Huntsman, he’s not a red meat conservative, but he’s not exactly moderate, Utah is one of the least affected states in the economic downturn due to policies that he was able to put in place, as well as keeping good policies. Some of his social policies have been moderate.

Some thing about Huntsman you should know is that he’s been working with the Chinese government for years, he’s fluent in Mandarin chinese from serving an LDS mission when he was younger… he’s got a successful business record, and his family, especially his father is quite humanitarian/philanthropic.

LDS beliefs hinge heavily on service. If Huntsman is a man of integrity he took the poistion in good faith that he can effect good for the U.S. as a civic duty… if he’s a dishonest man, hoping to gain the 2012 GOP nom… there’s no way he’d allow Obama to put him in a position to fail, he’s not an idiot.

I’m from Utah, and in my opinion as a conservative he is more than acceptable, ….

By the way… Huntsman was an early supporter of McCain… and There was a much ado about nothing moment in an interview with Cavuto about how his father is supporting Romney and he’s supporting McCain. I don’t see your connections… it seems with more information you view may change…I think you’re circling in the sphere of assumptions.

As a Republican, I am very sensitive to this issue.

I strongly oppose Huntsman’s acceptance of such position because I still consider him as a Republican. I believe that Obama’s Administration is Socialist, Statist and Totalitarian. It is something that is totally opposed to Republicanism. Thus, it’s my Personal conviction that serving the Obama Administration is “self-bashing” to any true Republican.

My point is that it is the duty of those in the adult party to try to assist the nation in our time of crisis. Country trumps politics, and whatever buffoon The One picks to replace him has got to be worse.

If Huntsman accepts the position, he will be the most prominent “RINO” in the spearheading the Carbon cap-and-trade strategy of Obama, among others. That besides the issue of promoting US bonds to China and Japan.

If The One tries promoting these, he can always resign.

Or: Should i say goodluck to your Presidential Candidate Hunstman on 2016?

Not a chance.

Don’t use the word “manure” to me.

Sorry if I offended your delicate sensibilities. Would you prefer silliness or nonsense in the future?

As a Republican, I am very sensitive to this issue.

I strongly oppose Huntsman’s acceptance of such position because I still consider him as a Republican. I believe that Obama’s Administration is Socialist, Statist and Totalitarian. It is something that is totally opposed to Republicanism. Thus, it’s my Personal conviction that serving the Obama Administration is “self-bashing” to any true Republican.

Please check the chronology of events that have led to Huntsman’s appointment by Obama (not yet official, I think.) IMO, there is a political overture behind this. The changing “spins” that the HuffPo has played regarding Hunstman have been very insightful:

From serious GOP candidate that makes the Obama Administration nervous …. to ….. A high-ranking member of Obama’s Administration wrt International and Trade Affairs.

Reference: Just search “Huntsman” article at HuffPo and see how he turned out to be another Specter-victimized-by-conservatives in the eyes of the Liberals.

The most recent “meme” is this:

With a reach across the political divide for Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman as ambassador to China, President Barack Obama may have sidelined for now a potentially formidable Republican moderate and possible White House challenger in 2012.

Yet Huntsman, who has upset the GOP’s conservative base by supporting gay civil unions, may gain, too. The appointment, which requires Senate approval, gives him a chance to burnish his credentials and position himself as a viable presidential contender in 2016, if Obama appears to be a strong candidate for a second term in 2012.

Source:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/15/jon-huntsman-to-be-named_n_204201.html

I leave you to your own intepretation of the above block quote.

On the other hand, I agree it’s a crucial position for Huntsman. In fact, it will be very significant if Obama is really cooking up something SO BIG particularly on the US-China Climate Change Deal. If Huntsman accepts the position, he will be the most prominent “RINO” in the spearheading the Carbon cap-and-trade strategy of Obama, among others. That besides the issue of promoting US bonds to China and Japan. So Goodluck to your soon-to-be Ambassador Huntsman!

Source:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/may/18/secret-us-china-emissions-talks

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/may/01/q-and-a-copenhagen-summit

But with due respect, I don’t think that the China position from Lord Obama will still be very significant to a man who already served as Dep. Trade Representative and Ambassador to Singapore.

Or: Should i say goodluck to your Presidential Candidate Hunstman on 2016? Now, that’s getting funny.

Finally:

Don’t use the word “manure” to me. You can make your own points clearly without resorting to such words. I’ve learned that from Moe in my 10 months of stay here at RS.

and circular firing squad my ample rear end….the only people whining about that are the people who’ve driven this party into the ground and insist we keep digging!

Huntsman is bashing himself by accepting that “post”.

Exactly haw and why would he turn it down? One thing that separates the GOP from the useless tools in the other party is the belief that politics still stops at the river’s edge. And the China post is going to be a crucial one, should he say no and have a Kennedy or Kerry type appointed in his stead? As to…

Romney can hardly get away with kneecapping Huntsman, a friend and fellow Latter Day Saint.

And exactly how is Huntsman going to look kneecaping a fellow LDS who will be, if not thwe frontrunner, at least one of them? Also, his statements on the direction of the party aside, what is there in his record to give him the dreaded RINO sobriquet?

Much ado about nothing here.

I was wondering how McCain would sabotage us for Soros and Obama in 2012.

Now we know.

My father here is exhibit A right now in everything that is wrong with the Republican party right now. He’s a classic, northern Virginia moderate Republican, who felt isolated from the GOP through the continued emphasis on loyalty …

True – it sure does sound like your Dad is the type of Republican that is wrong with the GOP right now. As Specter, Jeffords, Chafee, Schwarz, Leach, Gilchrest, etc. have proven – it is too much to expect loyalty from “moderates”. That would require them to take a side, and stick to it, and we all know “moderates” are without spine – I am yet to see any of the media’s designated “moderates” stand strong on an issue the instant it is labeled “divisive” or “controversial”.

So far what I’ve found out is that the bulk of so-called Republican “moderates” have absolutely no idea about any of the issues that matter. They outsource their thinking to the liberal Press and are obsessed with trying to please Democrats so they can get what they think is respect.

If you really want to know why moderates in the GOP get such a bum rap is that when we look at Democrat moderates, we notice a few things. Whenever they’re on print and broadcast, they’re not bashing their own party. They do not call their fellow party members “extremists.” They do not sabotage their own leadership. They do not place Bipartisanship™ above achieving their party’s legislative goals. They do not trade in the other side’s talking points. They don’t go on Rush to agree that other Democrats are troglodytes. They never proclaim the mainstream of their party as “too liberal” or “too far to the Left.” In other words, when the SHTF they’re loyal, they’re Democrats.

But “moderate” Republicans are an entirely different kettle of fish. Now, not only do they not want to vote with the other side with regards to policy, they want to go along with Democrats on procedural votes as well.

Before on RedState, defenders of “moderates” tried to pass off the fantasy that moderates were “fiscally conservative.” That is; until Snowe, Collins, Specter (with able support by “moderate” Govs like Crist and Schwarzenegger) sacrificed the nation’s financial health – not because they thought it would work, because they never even read the bill – on the altar of Bipartisanship™ and getting invitations to talk to liberal news hosts on TV. Now, every one of them is silent.

Thanks to their constant badmouthing of their own party, most of the “loyalty is too much to ask of us” “moderates” in Congress like your father (the ones that would have voted with Obama on the ‘Stimulus’) were voted out in 2006 in 2008 by Independents convinced by their own words echoing (as usual) the Democrats that the GOP is full of extremists, racists, sexists, anti-environmental neanderthals.

Here’s my advice to your “Republican”-for-Obama Dad and this is with all due respect, he should switch his registration to Democrat and be done with it. Like Meghan McCain he sounds like someone who sees no redeeming value in the party he claims to be a member of and everything to admire in the Democrat Party – the fact that we nominated John ‘Maverick Moderate’ McCain, the man “moderate’s” Bible (i.e. the New York Times) endorsed for us, and yet he voted for Barack Obama anyway, says this more convincingly than any words he (or you) can say to the contrary.

At this point, unless they get over their aversion to loyalty and paralyzing fear of journalist disapproval, “moderates” like your Dad are no different from a Fifth Columnists – it’s far more harmful to have them within the Tent than without it.