It’s easy not being green


The watermelons make it so.

The watermelons (green outside, pink inside) on the left continue to FAIL to get a handle on the Law of Unintended Consequences.

Object Lesson #1: The commissioners of Spokane County in Washington State figured it would be a good and green thing to reduce water pollution by getting phosphates out of the district’s waste water. So last July, they enacted the nation’s strictest ban on dishwasher detergent made with phosphates. The ban will be expanded statewide in 2010, and similar laws will take effect in several other states at the same time.

One small problem – eco-friendly dishwasher soaps just don’t get the job done. Spokane residents were less than thrilled to open their dishwashers after a full cycle to see their dishes still covered with food and grease. They were even less thrilled to have to take them out of the machine and rewash them by hand.

So people who like their dishes to be actually clean after machine-washing them discovered a simple end run around against the ill-conceived mandate. They just smuggle boxes of Cascade and Electrasol into the county from across the state line in nearby Idaho.

Phosphates are great at breaking down grease and removing encrusted chunks of food from dishes, pots and pans. Unfortunately, they have the disadvantage of being difficult to remove in waste water treatment plants. If the chemicals are released into rivers and lakes, they act as fertilizer for algae, making it grow and depriving the water of oxygen that fish need in order to survive.

Spokane County Commissioners chose to ignore recent advances in waste water treatment technology which significantly reduce phosphates. Rather than employ real environmental engineering, they took the social engineering approach and tried to change the behavior of their constituents to solve a problem. The constituents found the alternatives to the products they had relied upon to be ineffective, so they easily gamed the system.

What will the commissioners learn from this object lesson? Will they look at finding a better way to reduce phosphates at county water treatment plants? Not likely. They will probably just make the ban more restrictive. Currently, only the sale of phosphate dishwater detergents is illegal, not the possession of it. We don’t need a crystal ball to see where the good commissioners will be going. People will continue to smuggle in their phosphate detergents. The only difference is that they will be branded as criminals for doing so. Then the next step for the local lawmakers will be to increase the penalties for breaking the law, and when that doesn’t work, what will be next? Random stops of cars on the highway to be searched by officers with soap-sniffing dogs?

Object Lesson #2: Greenies have long been pushing the adoption of compact fluorescent (CFL) light bulbs and urging that the familiar incandescent bulbs be outlawed.

There are several problems with this, and they aren’t small ones. True, the CFLs are more energy-efficient than the incandescent variety. But many people don’t like the bluish-green light they provide. If the fluorescent tubes at the office bother your eyes, changes are you won’t like their smaller cousins at home. Also, CFLs, compared to incandescents, are slower to warm up, don’t work as well with dimmer switches, and often fail to meet advertised bulb life specifications when used inside enclosed fixtures due to the heat they generate. And should a CFL break, you have to clean up the mess with special care, because the mercury contained in compact fluorescents is anything but eco-friendly.

Again, there is an alternative which the watermelons largely ignored, so eager were they to force CFLs on the rest of us. Light bulbs which use LED (Light-Emitting Diode) technology have a lifespan of 60,000 hours, vs. the CFL’s (theoretical) 10,000 hours and the incandescent bulb’s 1,500 hours. LED bulbs are generally not as bright as an incandescent bulb, but the difference is only a slight one. LED bulbs also tend to have a narrower, more directional field of light than do incandescents. LED bulbs are most useful when they have been aimed right at whatever it is you want to illuminate. Traditional floor and table lamps fitted with LEDs tend to light the ceiling and whatever the lamp is placed upon. But if your’re an avid reader, you probably already have at least one good reading lamp which directs the light at your pages, so no problem.

In the greenies’ defense, LED bulb technology wasn’t yet ready for prime time back in the days when they first started pushing for CFLs. But CFLs, at least when manufactured to have a price point competitive with incandescents, haven’t proved themselves to be quite ready, either. And as good as LED bulbs are, new light bulb technologies (nanocrystal-coated LEDs and plasma light bulbs) are even better.

Nevertheless, the point is that in searching for a solution to a perceived problem, our green friends are always too eager to seize upon the first alternative which presents itself rather than wait just a bit to see if there’s an even better solution. And in every case, they do so because it feels good. They don’t logically and empirically evaluate all the solutions. This would simply be their problem rather than ours were they not so determined to force us to adopt their half-baked ideas. It’s social engineering run amok and mandated in a dictatorial manner. Unfortunately, the Law of Unintentional Consequences has too long a built-in delay time to prove the folly of their actions until considerable time and energy has been spent on less than ideal solutions. That’s the beauty of conservatism. Change is only adopted when it proves to make worthwhile contributions to the quality of life, never for its own sake.

- JP


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It's okay

red4ever (Diary) Saturday, March 28th at 3:53PM EST (link)

If they criminalize possession of dish detergent and then increase the penalties, the OTHER Liberals — the criminal huggers — will be there to defend you. It’s not your fault. It’s “dirty dish” syndrome. The grease made you do it.

The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in times of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.
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Which is better paper, plastic or reusable bag?

Greg (Diary) Saturday, March 28th at 5:15PM EST (link)

Paper, plastic or reusable bag have the same types of issue when looking at total life cycle cost to the environment. The answer may surprise you! It is not the cotton woven reusable bag. This the problem with feels good environmentalism run wild USA with out true scientific facts. Re-use your plastic bags until the can no longer be used then recycle them is the true answer.

How Green Are Your Grocery Bags?

Greg (Diary) Saturday, March 28th at 5:37PM EST (link)

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,510827,00.html
Fox article provides some back ground information regarding the issue.

 

A long time ago...

Josh Painter (Diary) Saturday, March 28th at 6:28PM EST (link)

in a grocery store far away, the cardboard boxes that the products had been shipped to the store in were used to get the groceries out to customers’ cars.

This practice saved the store the time and trouble of breaking down the boxes and throwing them in the trash. The boxes didn’t fall apart in the rain the way paper bags did. And many customers found other uses for the boxes later.

Cardboard wasn’t recyled in those days, but it is now.

Go figure…

- JP

“An armed society is a polite society” – Robert A. Heinlein, “Beyond This Horizon” (1942)

That is the old

youthgrunt (Diary) Saturday, March 28th at 7:22PM EST (link)

“Reuse” idea in the “Reduce, Reuse, Recycle” mantra. In reality it is far more useful to be reusing things rather than recycling them. But this is a thing called “logic” that seems to escape the watermelons.

 
 
 

Conservatives see the world as it is, liberals as they wish it to be

6eorge Jetson (Diary) Saturday, March 28th at 5:34PM EST (link)

without regard for the feasibility of getting there.

I’m all for being more energy efficient when it improves my life, either by giving me the more energy for the same cost, or the same energy for lower cost. Reseach into and deployment of energy efficiency improving means in pursuit of improved economics is a very good thing.

Wild goose chases such as the great carbon footprint reduction charade are another matter altogether. As the diary example demonstrates, even liberal states such as Washington can’t pull such foolishness off.

Conservatives see the world both as it is...

fmaidment (Diary) Saturday, March 28th at 7:23PM EST (link)

…and as how they’d like it to be. The difference between them and liberals is that liberals will use the force of government to force you to change to their ways. Conservatives write a business plan, get a loan or investment and make their dream happen in the free marketplace. If it doesn’t work, such is life…

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– - Thomas Jefferson, to Archibald Stuart, 1791

 
 

Plastic bags

larryp Saturday, March 28th at 7:17PM EST (link)

will hardly keep together long enough to get to the car. They shred with any weight in them.So “recycle is moot,imo.
And as far as the enviro-bags are concerned–just take a look at them when people bring them out and place them on the counter: they are filthy.Stuffed into dirty trunks or ends of SUV where thedogs take a nap on them and wad them up into a nest. The point to provding some kind of bag for groceries was not only customer service. No. Providing bags was to keep the store clean, and not transfer dirt to the groceries.
Ick. The health dept in each county should crackdown on this ‘bring-in bag’ plan.

 

Another problem with the CFL's...

TNJim (Diary) Saturday, March 28th at 7:22PM EST (link)

…is what to do with them after they burn out. Because of the mercury you’re not supposed to just chuck them in the trash. You’re supposed totake them to the appropriate recycling station. Now I don’t know of one of those in my area yet, maybe you can just mail them somewhere? A congressperson’s office that’s pushing for banning incandescents comes to mind… lol. But a lot of folks will just chuck them in the trash and in a few years we’ll have landfills contaminated with mercury.

Greenies, you better take a few second thoughts on this one, but being the knee-jerk reactionaries you people are, i’m not holding my breath.

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There are low-mercury CFLs...

fmaidment (Diary) Saturday, March 28th at 7:25PM EST (link)

…that usually cost a lot more and last only a few hours longer than an incandescent bulb. I actually haven’t seen them on the store shelves lately, so maybe they failed as a product?

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– - Thomas Jefferson, to Archibald Stuart, 1791

Probably, since the one of the main selling points of CFL's...

TNJim (Diary) Saturday, March 28th at 7:40PM EST (link)

… is how much longer their supposed to last in addition to energy savings. Of course, if they become the law of the land will we see those lifespans suddenly decrease?

I’d just about take that bet.

Or see the low-merc CFL’s you talked bout, Fred, make a comeback.

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And if you break one?

davo119 Saturday, March 28th at 9:25PM EST (link)

Just get the broom and dustpan. Right? Wrong!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1816185/posts

This is not a trivial problem.
http://www.energystar.gov/ia/partners/promotions/change_light/downloads/Fact_Sheet_Mercury.pdf

I’m opting for the Edison version.

Never give in! Never! Never! Never!

 
 

The CFL is another example of environmentalists' tunnel vision

civil truth (Diary) Saturday, March 28th at 7:43PM EST (link)

They start with global warming and then say that we need to reduce electrical usage to reduce CO2 generation. Then they look at one the most innocuous users of energy – the incandescent light bulb that has worked for over a century – and decide that changing to lower wattage CFLs will save the planet.

Of course they ignore all the other issues, such as materials, toxicity, cost (production and retail), quality, performance, limited range of tolerance to ambient temperature, etc. and just tunnel on wattage. To h*ll with ground water, mercury – they’re on a secular religious crusade to save the planet, one light bulb at a time.

I have quite a collection going of burned out CFLs, some of them rather dramatically. Nice set of burn marks.

Personally, I think that choosing light bulbe was a deliberate effort to confront everyone with their environmental save-the-word agenda in order to start propagandizing them. Plus a feel-good way to atone for your sins without really reforming your life.

Counterfeit Gospel…time to spew them out of my mouth.

The greatest evil…is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clean, carpeted, warmed, and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voice. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the offices of a thoroughly nasty business concern. -C.S. Lewis

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20:30 - 21:30

OccamsRazor (Diary) Saturday, March 28th at 8:55PM EST (link)

Me and mine lit up the entire houses. (I hope they can see me from space ;) )

Not because we’re a holes, not necessarily contrarions, but to express our freedoms against this new found religion. :)

 

Quality of life, er, light...

tnvolunteer Saturday, March 28th at 9:37PM EST (link)

My boss, a good right winger like me, is married to an enviro-feminazi, God bless him. Without telling her, he replaced all the incandescents in their house with CFLs… and got yelled at like a fishwife because the house was so dark, she couldn’t see in the kitchen or the bathroom anymore, what happened to her reading light, etc. Once she realized what he’d done, she admitted she would rather have good light than green light. Heh.