People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals(PETA) seems to have a beef with Gov. Sarah Palin. The organization recently posted an online game on its website which urges users to “help make the holidays safe for animals by fighting back against notorious animal abusers.” Lovers of warm and furry critters who visit the site can cast stones… well, virtual snowballs, at least, at a vrtual Palin, who is depicted in the game wearing a bikini and a fur coat. Whoever designed the game obviously has some sexual issues and a vivid imagination.
PETA’s president Ingrid Newkirk received a telephone call from someone who claimed to be from Gov. Palin’s office, threatening her organization with a lawsuit if the game was not removed from the group’s website. A series of e-mail exchanges between Newkirk and Palin spokesman Bill McAllister ensued.
Bruce Friedrich, who is in charge of communications for PETA, said:
“Sarah Palin is a bully who never saw an animal she didn’t want to kill, so it’s not surprising that her staff would try to intimidate us anonymously and then backtrack when called out. Our game represents a fun way to focus attention on a very serious subject — cruelty to animals supported by Sarah Palin and the other targets of the game — and we have no intention of taking it down in response to these pathetic attempts at intimidation.”
PETA people are not only prone to hyperbole and ad hominem attacks, but they apparently can read minds also.
McAllister says its not the game which bothers him, but the charge that someone in the governor’s office threatened legal action:
“This allegation about a lawsuit is just too much. No one in our office knew anything about it. And PETA has refused to say who called.”
You can read the actual e-mail exchange between Newkirk and McAllister here. PETA and its mission are not taken too seriously by many in Alaska, whose citizens, especially native people who live in remote areas, depend on moose and other wildlife to feed their families. A bumper sticker seen in the 49th state reads:
Vegetarian: Eskimo word for “bad hunter”
Palin has been the subject of extreme criticism from PETA and other “animal rights” groups, who often depict her as shooting wolves from a helicopter, something she has never done. The state’s Department of Fish and Game (ADF&G) wolf control program has outraged activists, who can’t seem to understand that the wolves are not lovable pets, but predators that hunt moose and caribou in packs.
The canines are very effective hunters. Wildlife biologist David Johnson explains that wolves had depleted the numbers of moose and caribou in Alaska, but ADF&G’s wolf control program has corrected the problem:
When we started the Tanana Flats wolf control program in the mid-1970′s moose and caribou numbers were low and falling. Wolf numbers were high. Ten years later, and some years after the program ended, there were more of each: more moose, more caribou, and – here’s the punch line – the wolf population had bounced back to a larger size than when we started.
In the early 1980′s, as an area biologist in Delta Junction, I watched as wolf control had a similar impact on moose numbers. Today, moose and wolves are again abundant around Delta.
The problem with animal rights activists and other liberals is that they react emotionally to both the problem and the solution, refusing to acknowledge that scientific methods of wildlife management not only work, but they are essential to keeping animal populations in check:
Romantic notions of the “balance of nature” lead easily to the false conclusion that if we simply “let nature take its course,” abundance will naturally result. The historical reality is that much of Alaska was hungry country when US Army explorers began to penetrate the Interior in the late 19th century. Some of these parties nearly starved for lack of game. The Athabascan inhabitants of the Interior often struggled with starvation. The “balance of nature” there seems to have been weighted more toward scarcity than abundance.
I believe our choice today is either wildlife abundance, maintained by intelligent management of ungulates, their habitats and their predators, or what will likely be long periods of limited numbers of prey species like moose and caribou, as the 19th century explorers found.
PETA people just don’t get it, and they probably never will. Meanwhile, the irrational personal attacks on Sarah Palin by the clueless, hateful left continue.
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Josh- You continue to ride on the Wildside
Scope (Diary) Friday, December 26th at 6:14PM EST (link)You know that when you post anything with the name Palin in it, it brings on the wolves, and no one yet has been able to control that population. Do you really like living so dangerously? LOL
Scope, you still owe me your wisdom on what
Achance (Diary) Friday, December 26th at 6:44PM EST (link)Governor Swartzenegger should have done with the unions when he had his iniative campaign. I await enlightenment!
In Vino Veritas
Achance- I was corrected
Scope (Diary) Saturday, December 27th at 8:06AM EST (link)You don’t have a big pair, you have a small pair. If you remember correctly (and I think that was the evening you were heading for the Johnny Walker Blue) I referred to your hubris in saying you were the only one of about a half dozen in the country that could have a conversation about some crap. Whatever the subject, it is highly conceited to give yourself so much credit. I do find it interesting though that you were in court so many times representing the State against lawsuits from various Unions. They were all in the corrupt Murkowski days. You have said that you spent Monday mornings in meetings with Gov. Palin, yet you retired in 2006 and Gov. Palin took office on Dec. 4, 2006. So how many meetings could you have sat in to develope such a close up, first hand knowledge of Palin? She became the Governor the same year you retired.
http://archives.chicagotribune.com/2008/sep/08/nation/chi-alaskasep08
I also said you were one of the most negative and sour posters when it came to Palin. Someone else pointed out that you were almost stalking her. Now you are following me around and demanding that I answer your questions. Achance, I owe you nothing. Thank the God Lord I don’t argue all day for a living, or just for the sport of it.
Oil and Gas Conservation Commission
Diogenes314 (Diary) Saturday, December 27th at 9:28AM EST (link)…is part of the Alaska department of administration.
Scope, it's better for you to remain silent I guess.
Achance (Diary) Saturday, December 27th at 1:54PM EST (link)You shot your mouth off questioning my bona fides because I don’t share the devotion to the Cult of Sarah Palin, and now you further demonstrate your ignorance. What I said was no conceit at all, just a fact. I know pretty much everyone in the Country at the appointee level in state sector labor relations. Most of them are Democrats who work with Democrat governors and public employee unions to get over on the tax payers. There are only a half dozen or so who have ever worked for Republican administrations that actually had to deal with unions in the give and take of actual collective bargaining. During my tenure, the California director and I were the only state level directors of labor relations who were a part of a Republican administration. There are only a half dozen or so states with any significant level of public employee unionization that aren’t solidly and irredeemably Blue.
Since you’re compelled to demonstrate your ignorance; we were never sued by a union during the Murkowski Administration and I brought grievance traffic down to an almost boring level. The only time I ever actually put my name on the appearance line was in a dog of a grievance arbitration that was highly politicized. I wouldn’t ask my merit system staff to go take one for the team, so I represented the State in that one and lost elegantly. Prior to Murkowski, as a merit system employee I lived in arbitration and labor board hearings for almost twenty years and there are very few people in the Country with as many appearances. Ironically, most of the arbitration appearances were under the two Democrats I worked for, Cowper and Knowles. Most of the labor board stuff was under Cowper and Hickel.
I’ve had little to do with her since she quit the Murkowski Administration and played kiss and tell. Prior to that, she was with the AOGCC, which as Diogenes points out below was in the same department as my division and in which we were peers. Sarah Palin is the architect of the allegations of corruption against the Murkowski Administration. As I’ve said, my view of what happened with AOGCC is very different from hers. Only three members of the Administration ever faced any charges; the fellow Commissioner that Palin ratted out, the AG that Palin was instrumental in ratting out, and the COS who got caught up in the FBI investigation of VECO because he accepted a poll from them, something that nobody would have noticed had he been a Democrat. I don’t think I’ve even been in the same room with her since she became Governor and there is no way I’d work for her administration even if she wanted me too; there’s hardly enough room on this planet for me and for a couple of her appointees.
You obviously know nothing about labor relations and apparently little about politics either, you just had to shoot your mouth off the other night because somebody doesn’t worship Sarah Palin like you and some others here do. When she was the nominee, I rode for the brand. She’s not the nominee anymore and it is open season on her as far as I’m concerned. I and many others here have significant issues with her about the future or our state and that is far more important to me than how she might be regarded by a bunch of people who saw her only in a very controlled, even manufactured, persona. You and others can be propping her up for a run on the WH in ’12 or even the Senate in ’10 against Lisa Murkowski. But for now, she has a state to run and she can’t govern by throwing around money and big ideas anymore. Something has to actually happen with the Gasline and right now it is vaporware and the Canadians have a half billion dollars that we could use here in Alaska. She’s got a budget based on $73/bbl. oil and it was trading at less than $30 this week. That means she’s going to have one Helluva tussle with a Legislature that isn’t in love with her and also with her own bureaucracy, relativey few of whom were actually appointed by her or have any particular loyalty to her. If she has a credible opponent in the Governor Primary, I’ll support that opponent. If she runs against Sen. Murkowski, I’ll support Sen. Murkowski.
In Vino Veritas
My version was pithier...
Diogenes314 (Diary) Saturday, December 27th at 2:07PM EST (link)But yours probably stung more.
Being a fan of your Governor’s I hate it when idiots try to ‘defend’ her. Leave it to the adults.
If she were the nominee,
Achance (Diary) Saturday, December 27th at 2:34PM EST (link)I’d support her just as I did when she became the Republican nominee for Governor here. I gave her a noticeable contribution but not the standard max that communicates that you want to work for an administration. I even wrote up a situation report and a white paper on likely events and responses for her campaign. A Republican makes one campaign appearance in Juneau and it is usually $100 or more a plate to keep the riff raff out but everyone understands that it is really the event for appointees to come to if they want to remain appointees, so you show up and whip out your check for a grand, the max for each election. If you want more than a director’s position, you have to bundle money, so it takes a lot more than just your $1000. So, if you’re working as an appointee you have a difficult choice in the primary. If you give any money to your bosses’ opponent, you won’t be working much longer. They might not fire you when they see the contribution on the theory that it is better to have someone in the tent than out, but they sure will after the election if they win.
What usually happens is a nasty little game of people inside the Administration but who’ve decided to hitch their wagon to another star start setting up situations to give their candidate a political opportunity or they surreptitiously write up kiss and tell white papers for their favorite or leak stuff to the press to give their candidate an opportunity.
If you’re a long time appointee you’re usually pretty safe with Republicans unless you outright opposed them or someone who hates you is close to the Governor. Republicans never have enough people willing to take appoitments to actually staff all the patronage positions in most governments and Republicans are unwilling to take the heat for dismissing all those “dedicated public servants.”
Now Democrats are another matter; they fire everybody who might have ever had a Republican thought, even down to merit system employees who might have “collaborated” with Republicans.
In Vino Veritas
Diogenes-When are the adults planning on showing up
Scope (Diary) Saturday, December 27th at 3:57PM EST (link)That is those that offer more than the cheerleading you portrayed above with nothing more to offer than name calling. Don’t assume that everyone always reads everything you post because I’m sure you know about that pesky little saying- To assume is to make an….oh well you know what I mean. I’m more than certain that Achance can defend himself, after all didn’t he tell us that he argues for a living. That is the difference, I am not a politician, nor do I ever hope to be one. If all it takes to be a politician is to scheme, control and be controlled, play the party nice game, financially support candidates you despise, and to do it all for a paycheck, you are what is tremendously wrong with the Republican Party and the Democrats also which I could care less about. That shows no guts or backbone when you can’t even honor your own principles. I’ll take my chances with Palin, as to rat out those in her own party was being principled. She came from nowhere and won the spot as Mayor of her town, she went on to win the Governorship. Everyone has their enemies, but it usually is because you beat them at their own game. Before her VP run, she had something like an 80 something approval rating. So, what are you saying, that 12 of her own family members were polled, and that how she enjoyed such a high approval rating? I will absolutely listen to various and a broad range of opinions from Alaskans about her, but I refuse to listen to a soured and cynical former politician who obviously has personal reasons for the angst. By the way Achance, I have a different kind of pair than you, and your comments that included “whore” and not implicating that Palin slept her way up, but using the words in your comments indicate just how far you are willing to go to denegrate Palin in every way you can. She may very well bomb on her own for some reason, but she hasn’t bombed for me because of what you have to offer about her.
Cliff's notes version?
Diogenes314 (Diary) Saturday, December 27th at 5:48PM EST (link)No way I’m reading all of that crap.
But to answer your question….
When he says something out of line. As opposed to spinning halfwits like you like a top.
Diogenes- Like I said, when will the adults show up
Scope (Diary) Saturday, December 27th at 7:08PM EST (link)About all that halfwit thing- You do nothing more than rile than rally. That’s a halfwit, or should I say a totalwit.
Diogenes- Glad to know that with your one month relationship with Redstate, you have become the master of your own "not so much" words
Scope (Diary) Saturday, December 27th at 7:13PM EST (link)NT
You're welcome.
Diogenes314 (Diary) Saturday, December 27th at 7:29PM EST (link)And thanks for making the newbie look so good by contrast.
I think you are living in a dream world if you think...
JadedByPolitics (Diary) Saturday, December 27th at 7:36PM EST (link)you look better than Scope but continue on with your ego because its only you that believes it!
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Achance (Diary) Saturday, December 27th at 7:11PM EST (link)If you ever actually do anything in a political organization of any size, say, district party up or the government itself you will learn that: you will learn to work with people you hate, give money to candidates you don’t like, serve elected and appointed officials you can’t stand to share the planet with. It’s all about finding that fifty percent plus one. And if you’re rich and famous enough, you can afford to be involved in politics and government without a paycheck, the rest of us can’t. And don’t think that typing on a blog or working phones and licking stamps is being involved in politics; it ain’t, it’s just being cheap labor.
We’ll see what the World looks like in ’10. She’s got an election to win and we’ll see if anyone even remembers her name by ’12. If she can win and stay alive politically, she’s in the catbird’s seat in ’12. If she can’t, she becomes a question for Trivial Pursuit.
In Vino Veritas
Now that conservatives nationwide are aware
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Saturday, December 27th at 7:22PM EST (link)of her remarkable success against corrupt old boy networks of both parties; that she shares their values on most all issues and policies; that she is the living embodiment of the life issue and that she almost carried the worst GOP presidential candidate in years across the finish line despite a hostile liberal press and severe money advantage,
that she will now do worse?!
I think not.
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I very much disagree with you Achance
Scope (Diary) Saturday, December 27th at 7:34PM EST (link)See, those of us that have become involved and then some with taking back our party will lick the stamps, address the envelopes, and have our boots on the ground when we have a candidate to support. You seem to demean that type of support as useless. Obama won with just that type of support. He didn’t win on his record or his false visions, he won with the kind of support you denegrate. I ask again, whose side are you really on? Haven’t heard much from you on any support of anything, just what everyone is doing wrong. Hey, how about coming out of the wilderness and supporting something rather than being the man of NO.
Scope, in your three months and 27 days here
Achance (Diary) Saturday, December 27th at 7:57PM EST (link)you missed a lot of stuff that went on for the last couple or three years. Now, you have a couple of years to prove that you’re something other than a sycophant for somebody you really don’t know anything about. I’ve done my time.
In Vino Veritas
No actually, Obama won because he had
mbecker908 (Diary) Saturday, December 27th at 8:05PM EST (link)a top notch, professional organization that probably could have gotten McCain or Dole elected. That, combined with the fact that the media was totally in the tank for the guy is what put him over the top.
We’ve got a Congressional election to deal with two years and we’re just as unprepared for that as McCain was to run for President (and he worked on that for ten years). Gov Palin’s got a lot of work to do to prove she’s a competent governor. Maybe she’ll do it and maybe she won’t. We’ll see, but the one sure thing is this, we’ve got more important stuff to do that pick the Presidential candidate for ’12 right now.
And don't overlook the money.
Achance (Diary) Saturday, December 27th at 8:08PM EST (link)Our fat, overcontent leadership kinda missed out on some money raising strategies, doncha’ think?
In Vino Veritas
Strategies, Achance? What strategies? McCain was determined to force all of us to play
janis (Diary) Saturday, December 27th at 8:18PM EST (link)by his own rules and they sunk us as surely as God made little green apples. It occurred to me the other night when thinking of the speech that McCain gave at the RNC on the last night that when he said ” Fight with me!”, he wasn’t inviting us to join the fray with him and fight shoulder to shoulder against a common enemy–he was telling us what he was intending to do TO us. And sure enough that’s what he did. He fought against our advice and good instincts every step of the way. What a guy.
Agreed, McCain going the public route took
Achance (Diary) Saturday, December 27th at 8:27PM EST (link)fundraising off the table there, but, better fundraising would have given a LOT more money for downticket races and for infrastructure and GOTV. Obviously, BHO had so much money they were having to get creative just to figure out ways to spend it. That would be nice.
In Vino Veritas
Yep.
mbecker908 (Diary) Saturday, December 27th at 8:24PM EST (link)-nt-
(-3°C) Light Snow
Diogenes314 (Diary) Saturday, December 27th at 7:44PM EST (link)97% Humidity?
Who in their right mind wouldn’t want to live in Juneau? Except for bureaucrats, of course.
It's a nice day!
Achance (Diary) Saturday, December 27th at 8:05PM EST (link)Went down and shovelled my boat, dug out the cars, couldn’t get the @#$%^ snowblower to run so it was shovel brigade time. Snowblowers that aren’t brand new only work when they’re not really needed.
Governor gave State employees yesterday off, so of course it snowed eight or ten inches. The city has contract language that says city employees get whatever State employees get, so they were off too. Day off like that is a holiday, so anybody who has to work, like snowplow drivers, is getting double time and a half. My street hasn’t been plowed at all, the bigger roads weren’t plowed nearly enough or quickly enough, so they’re sheets of ice, and it’s snowing again on top of that ice. Yeah, it’s a fun place today and I still have to get to town, thirteen miles, for dinner with my oldest’s girlfriend and her family at 7. I’m still debating over driving or cabbing it.
In Vino Veritas
We had a toasty 7 degrees less than a week ago. Today it was 70.
janis (Diary) Saturday, December 27th at 8:20PM EST (link)Tonight we are watching a line of storms head this way and it will drop the temps by 25 degrees or so overnight. I just loves me some global warming and global cooling all in one day.
We almost never get dramatic changes
Achance (Diary) Saturday, December 27th at 9:58PM EST (link)in the weather. There’s really nothing between us and Antarcitica except Hawaii and it doesn’t put up much resistance, so we get these big storm systems spinning up into the Gulf of Alaska. You can feel them and see the “mare’s tails and mackeral scales” from hundreds of miles and many days away. From the fall equinox to the winter solstice it just gets darker and colder. From the winter solstice to the spring equinox, it stays cold but it gets lighter. Life is about the time from the spring equinox to the fall equinox when this place is more or less habitable. For us it is all about where the jet stream is. If it is south of us, we get clear, dry Arctic weather; in summer it is warm and sunny with a breeze trending north, but in winter it is cold, cold, cold, cold. Big air mass moving in now and lows in the Interior will be near minus 50 by Monday night. We’ll get a north wind, dry air, and single digits. Any storms coming up from the Pacific will hit the jet stream and get rocketed down to hit the US West Coast then ride the jet stream accross the Country. I’ve flown from SEA to JNU several times with 150 knots on the nose of the plane. Sometimes a Pacific storm is powerful enough to punch past the jet stream and we get real live “Alaska” weather, wind, heavy snow, falling temps after the snow. Other times, the warm air from the storm overcomes the cold arctic air and we get warming and rain; that makes a pretty good mess in the middle of winter.
In Vino Veritas
Gee. Sounds a lot like Arizona.
mbecker908 (Diary) Saturday, December 27th at 10:23PM EST (link)On second thought, no it doesn’t.
FWIW, I’m freezing my butt off today. High was 51. Right now it’s 46 and low tonite will be 35. It’s quilt and electric blanket time.
God but I miss global warming.
God, I miss Alaska!
Raven (Diary) Monday, December 29th at 12:25PM EST (link)It’s light jacket weather at Worst here in Western PA right now…
“If you do not have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.”
Luke 22:36
Raven, you'd be ashamed of the ANC media
Achance (Diary) Monday, December 29th at 12:42PM EST (link)yesterday and today. They’re just bleating and wailing like it is the end of the world because East Anchorage may see minus 20 or so a few nights this week I helped a buddy change the pllugs and points in his old pickup at forty below in a trailer park in Muldoon back in ’75 or ’76 because we wanted to make sure the thing would start the next morning because he had a job interview for a Slope job. Anyway, there’s absolute media hysteria about the plight of the homeless and the people who can’t afford fuel and all the usual lefty rot. I haven’t specifically heard them blame a spell of cold weather on “corrupt Republicans,” but I know it’s coming.
Imagine it, Raven, it is cold in Southcentral Alaska in late December. Hell, when I looked at the ADN while ago, it was Three Above; that ain’t cold! Minus 40 is cold! You have all these ignorant children working as reporters and they seem to think that if they’ve never seen something, it has never happened before and the World is going to end because of it.
In Vino Veritas
-30 was warm weather...
1SGinTN (Diary) Monday, December 29th at 2:13PM EST (link)during Jack Frost ’79. We took our parkas off and were outside in our shirtsleeves.
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-Virgil
Last 40 below weather I saw I was on a BSA camping trip
Raven (Diary) Monday, December 29th at 4:59PM EST (link)That was only about 10 years ago…
GREAT camping weather, 40 below. The snow doesn’t melt while you play in/with it. It doesn’t cling to you to melt later. It doesn’t melt when you sleep in your snow shelter…
GREAT camping weather!
“If you do not have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.”
Luke 22:36
Weather technology can be highly overrated.
janis (Diary) Monday, December 29th at 5:14PM EST (link)While it surely does a good job in warning of oncoming tornadoes and saves lives, the rest of the time it’s pretty much a nuisance. 50 years ago, before all the radar and the rest, the weather report was short and almost as accurate as what passes for weather predicting now. Hmmmmm–let me change that. Actually, I think the weather was MORE accurate 50 years ago because they just predicted what MIGHT happen. Now, with all the techy stuff, the forecasters try to tell you 10 days out what’s going to happen and it invariably changes 5 times before that 10th day.
The only place I ever lived that didn’t need weather forecasts for at least 3 months out of the year was Reno, Nevada. Daytime highs were from 105 to 110 from end of June to September, nighttime lows were 45 to 50 and nary a cloud was seen for all those months.
The Accu-weather window and a barometer
Achance (Diary) Monday, December 29th at 10:10PM EST (link)is still the best. Along with an elemental knowledge of how the weather works. Mare’s tail and mackeral scales, red skies at night, and all that stuff really does work pretty well. Though at my lattitude, the red skies at night doesn’t work so well because the Sun is either far south or far north of east and west for much of the year. Love my barometer and weathervane, though.
One thing we get here, and I suspect is an issue in other places as well, is the FNG who’s just out of college or new to the area who is just freaked by whole new weather phenomena and systems. He or she just feeds into the semi-literate, government school educated young reporter’s ignorance and self-centeredness.
In Vino Veritas
Yep, if I want to know the weather forecast, I go out on the front porch and look south and east.
janis (Diary) Monday, December 29th at 10:30PM EST (link)Then I go out on the back porch and look north and west. If it’s wintertime, I pay attention to what the birds are doing in the woods and fields. If lots of them are down and feeding, then snow or ice will cover the ground for 24 hours or more.
If it’s summertime, then it’s just time to sweat.
Tennessee, particularly middle Tennessee, is a tricky place to forecast weather. In the winter, we’re often on the dividing line between rain or snow, or, God forbid, the ever-lovely ice storms. And in terms of violent weather, a new Tornado Alley has developed across mid-west Tennessee to just north of Nashville and counties east of there. I can’t imagine a FNG moving to Alaska from some more moderate place in the lower 48 and being able to predict anything more tricky than what time the sun will rise, at least not for a good while until they got the hang of a whole different zone. Must make for some embarrassingly wrong forecasts?
the weather is easy to me, I got a cajun weather rock.
kyle8 (Diary) Monday, December 29th at 10:41PM EST (link)it’s just a rock swinging on a rope tied to a tree.
If the rock is wet, it’s raining
if the rock is moving, it’s windy
if it’s white, its snowin
and if it’s missing, then get out of there, its a hurricane!
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
Actually...
Bill S (Diary) Monday, December 29th at 10:25PM EST (link)The accuracy of extended outlooks has improved dramatically over the last 20+ years. NOAA could rarely accurately forecast out for 5 days, and now the 7-day outlook is where the 5-day once was. Computer models are far more accurate than before. Short term (1-3 day) forecasts are excellent. Winter forecasting is still tough because of the huge impact that a small variation in temperature causes (the difference between rain and snow can be a matter of a few miles)
(I was a meteorology student back in the early ’80s. The technology back then was downright archaic compared to today… it is quite understandable why accuracy has improved)
“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins
So what is the weather channel doing?
zuiko (Diary) Monday, December 29th at 10:32PM EST (link)I could draw paper slips out of a hat and put together a forecast as accurate as they manage. The other guys aren’t as bad… but they are totally useless in my experience. Maybe they should focus more on their forecasting and less time proselytizing about global warming.
Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. – Milton Friedman
Yeah, bs, but all the techy stuff takes the fun out of
janis (Diary) Monday, December 29th at 10:34PM EST (link)just getting surprised. You watch the weather forecast, find yourself planning this or that based on said forecast, and then have to change plans because the forecast was wrong by 12 hours. But that may also be because I’ve been a weather groupie for a long time and pay attention to such things. Others can blithely live there lives without ever bothering to catch the weather forecast.
Heathens.
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See this wolf story from today's Anchorage Daily News:
Achance (Diary) Friday, December 26th at 6:38PM EST (link)http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/wildlife/story/634171.html
Go down and read the comments. Few of them are from either ADN regular posters or even from Alaska residents. And it’s the standard “Palin will go out and kill the wolf” or “some Alaskan idiot will go kill the wolf.” A lot of the comments about anything related to Alaska or Gov. Palin are clearly coordinated by one or more groups out there; same memes, same vocabulary, often even the same phrases.
Just for the record, Alaskans overwhelming support the wolf control program. The only real opposition here are the PETA-types, we have a few of them, and a few local hunters who don’t like the fact that they can’t hunt wolves, rather DF&G does it all either with their own employees or contract hunters.
I live about a mile and a half from the Mendenhall Glacier where Romeo the wolf hangs out. Even in a fairly lefty town like Juneau, pretty much everybody has guns. Nobody has harmed a hair on that wolf in the several years he’s been around even though he has killed some domestic dogs. General sentiment is that if you turn your dog loose unleashed, an illegal act itself, in an area known to be a wolf’s territory, don’t expect to see your dog again. A couple of years ago a dark wolf was found dead south of town and some miles from where this wolf normally ranges. Nevertheless, there was a lot of speculation that it was Romeo the Wolf and the whole town was practically in mourning over the passing of Romeo. Obviously, rumors of his death were greatly exaggerated. I’ve seen him a few times; he’s very large, very black, and quite impressive. Obviously, he’s getting old and would probably be dead if there were a pack around; it ain’t healthy to be the former Alpha male. Even though he’s alone, he’s still above ambient temperature and seems to live pretty well.
In Vino Veritas
You know what's funny about this big to do about killing wolves...
JadedByPolitics (Diary) Saturday, December 27th at 7:19PM EST (link)here in the harsh lands the Indians inhabited they killed them for meat and clothing and if it were not for tools such as PETA it would not be a big deal as there is the circle of life and for humans to have food and warm clothing which are a must then animals have to die for that and so be it…..I find this little lady living off the lay of the land the most exciting thing of all….she is no wimp and I respect that about her. When we down here have some major mother nature event that would have us spoiled rotten Americans begging for help and not being able to help ourselves I do believe you all up in AK would have the intelligence and gumption to continue on! MUCH RESPECT for that!
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By continuing to exhale, PETA members are
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Saturday, December 27th at 7:25PM EST (link)threatening the whole planet, and, hence, all wolves.
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Yeah them and the Rev Al Gore :-) nt
JadedByPolitics (Diary) Saturday, December 27th at 7:27PM EST (link)..
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Alaska Fish and Game has some video of a pack of wolves
Achance (Diary) Saturday, December 27th at 7:50PM EST (link)taking a yearling moose. You used to see it fairly frequently, but I haven’t seen it in some years. I would like to round up all the PETA types, sit them in a theater, and let them see what killing for fun looks like. Watching the moose trying still to excape them with his guts trailing along behind him, and the wolves just nipping at him to keep him running so he’ll die quicker and without them having to take the risk of going for his throat will make people hardened to this sort of stuff worry about keeping their cookies down.
Another one that would be fun is to get all the Free Willie fans together and show them a video of a Mama Orca teaching her baby to hunt and kill a seal. It is the same dynamic as a domestic cat with a mouse; wouldn’t want it to die too quickly. I’ve seen that one up close and personal and it ain’t pretty!
You’re dealing with people whose whole knowledge of animals if from Disney and who anthropomorphize all animals, expecially the predators and large animals. Just think of the biggest, strongest, meanest man you can visualize, and think of him without the slightest hint of any socialization in how he deals with other men. There you have the Alpha in a group of predators; if it can’t kill him, he’s not afraid of it, and if it does’t submit to him, he kills it – period. And man without is weapons is a pretty low-grade predator.
I was born and raised on a farm and grew up killing our own meat, either domestic cattle, hogs, and poultry, or game like deer, squirril, and quail. I’ve hunted moose and caribou here. I don’t hunt any more, but I still fish and crab a lot. I never found killing an animal to be a pleasant experience. I could enjoy satifaction from the skill of doing it right, but I was taught by my grandfather, who taught me to hunt, that I should always be deeply cognizant of what it would be like to be on the other side of the exchange. If you don’t feel some tinge of regret as that creature breathes its last, Hell even fish, there’s something wrong with you as a human being. I don’t think wolves and orcas, or any other predator besides man, have those qualms.
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I wonder
Warner Todd Huston (Diary) Friday, December 26th at 8:14PM EST (link)I wonder what a PETA tastes like grilled with onions? Oh, and fava beans.
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Well, they have that unpleasant tofu texture, but the taste,
janis (Diary) Friday, December 26th at 8:36PM EST (link)no matter how long you marinate them, is still a curious mix of bland and bitter. They also leave a nasty and lingering aftertaste no matter how much Chianti you consume with the fava beans.
If it weren't for kuru
MikeO Sunday, December 28th at 12:12AM EST (link)If it weren’t for my fear ofkuru, I’d probably have the experience needed to tell you.
Not exactly the most timely attack ever
zuiko (Diary) Friday, December 26th at 8:17PM EST (link)I guess when your web developers spend most of their time stoned, you can’t expect this stuff to be finished when it is still relevant.
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Word association - PETA
Whitehorse (Diary) Friday, December 26th at 10:56PM EST (link)Freak!
Adding to the noise
MrsNachos (Diary) Friday, December 26th at 11:02PM EST (link)PETA has been upset with Palin since the stories about hitting animals from a helicopter surfaced. They are a classic case of a good idea gone very, very wrong. As an animal lover, I can see the mentality of “their heart is in the right place,” however, as with any cause that turns to truly radical (and by that I mean non-peaceful protest) tactics, they have generally allowed their emotionality to get the better of them.
My guess is that they have not heard the Southern adage of getting more flies from honey than vinegar.
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peta........keeping Palin in the news....
loupgarou1317 Saturday, December 27th at 11:48AM EST (link)Well if they wanted her to go away……they are going about it wrong! I like what a couple of local DJ’s call PETA …..People Eating Tasty Animals…….As much as I love wolves if they are hurting people they need to be removed or put down before they hurt all animals, us included.
Palin will stay in the news because she is so....
JadedByPolitics (Diary) Saturday, December 27th at 11:53AM EST (link)popular with the base and the MSM is nothing if not consistent in trying to take down a popular Republican…..you see she is not trying to gain good graces with the MSM and they HATE that which is why the base loves her…..we despise them as much as she does!
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Scope (Diary) Saturday, December 27th at 7:52PM EST (link)I don’t know how often you check into the RVp site but please check your personnal messages there.
Scope I didn't see any messages but here.....
JadedByPolitics (Diary) Saturday, December 27th at 8:24PM EST (link)is my email address jamdan 2 @ hotmail so just email me there!
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Neil Stevens (Diary) Saturday, December 27th at 7:38PM EST (link)The personal attacks on regular commenters will cease now.
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That includes everyone but about-to-be-banned trolls, by the way (nt)
Neil Stevens (Diary) Saturday, December 27th at 7:44PM EST (link)RS contributing editor, technical administrator, and “a hardy variety of crabgrass.”
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Scope (Diary) Saturday, December 27th at 8:59PM EST (link)Thought for sure I was the target, same as I was once before. Please remember, I have walked away from attacks from the same twice now. I didn’t start this today, on this thread, but I was invited to answer, and I did. Didn’t ask for any help from anyone.
Yes I didn't want you or Diogenes excluded here (nt)
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Speaking of PETA
Raven (Diary) Monday, December 29th at 12:27PM EST (link)Are they still listed as a Domestic Terrorist Organization?
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