Comments on: No wonder the GOP is on its knees http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/2008/11/27/no-wonder-the-gop-is-on-its-knees/ Tue, 15 Dec 2009 12:51:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Jaded http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/2008/11/27/no-wonder-the-gop-is-on-its-knees/#comment-539 Jaded Sun, 30 Nov 2008 09:28:32 +0000 #comment-539 <p>heartfelt warmth THANK YOU!</p> heartfelt warmth THANK YOU!

]]> By: ZootSuit http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/2008/11/27/no-wonder-the-gop-is-on-its-knees/#comment-538 ZootSuit Sun, 30 Nov 2008 05:44:52 +0000 #comment-538 <p>But I am agreeing with everything you wrote in this thread.</p> But I am agreeing with everything you wrote in this thread.

]]> By: Jaded http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/2008/11/27/no-wonder-the-gop-is-on-its-knees/#comment-537 Jaded Sun, 30 Nov 2008 02:02:00 +0000 #comment-537 <p>OBTH ROTFLMAO!</p> <p>I see your expression of amazement is standing alone on responding to anything in particular and wondered where I went astray :-)</p> OBTH ROTFLMAO!

I see your expression of amazement is standing alone on responding to anything in particular and wondered where I went astray :-)

]]> By: Doc_Holliday http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/2008/11/27/no-wonder-the-gop-is-on-its-knees/#comment-536 Doc_Holliday Sun, 30 Nov 2008 01:53:41 +0000 #comment-536 <p>I will be looking for those cat and dog dwellings :) Then again, I have found agreement with you many times too. Maybe I am getting too soft, I need to get more cantankerous! I bet a few here would disagree lol.</p> I will be looking for those cat and dog dwellings :) Then again, I have found agreement with you many times too. Maybe I am getting too soft, I need to get more cantankerous! I bet a few here would disagree lol.

]]> By: Doc_Holliday http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/2008/11/27/no-wonder-the-gop-is-on-its-knees/#comment-535 Doc_Holliday Sat, 29 Nov 2008 23:25:34 +0000 #comment-535 <p>I guess I was just giving examples. I know JD Hayworth is looking for work.</p> I guess I was just giving examples. I know JD Hayworth is looking for work.

]]> By: Doc_Holliday http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/2008/11/27/no-wonder-the-gop-is-on-its-knees/#comment-534 Doc_Holliday Sat, 29 Nov 2008 23:21:56 +0000 #comment-534 <p>how we turn that around I do not know. But we can start with our own party.</p> how we turn that around I do not know. But we can start with our own party.

]]> By: ZootSuit http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/2008/11/27/no-wonder-the-gop-is-on-its-knees/#comment-533 ZootSuit Sat, 29 Nov 2008 18:40:00 +0000 #comment-533 <p>Next thing you know, cats and dogs will be living together.</p> Next thing you know, cats and dogs will be living together.

]]> By: ChrisM http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/2008/11/27/no-wonder-the-gop-is-on-its-knees/#comment-532 ChrisM Sat, 29 Nov 2008 13:15:14 +0000 #comment-532 <p>This smells like the same type of leadership that wants Palin to go home and shutup. </p> This smells like the same type of leadership that wants Palin to go home and shutup.

]]> By: Gekster http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/2008/11/27/no-wonder-the-gop-is-on-its-knees/#comment-531 Gekster Sat, 29 Nov 2008 11:46:26 +0000 #comment-531 <p>It wasn't an attack on your mother, I just think she made one bad choice. And I didn't say you arn't american enough. Thats what yo wanted to see. Thanks for the translation though. It does help.</p> It wasn’t an attack on your mother, I just think she made one bad choice.
And I didn’t say you arn’t american enough. Thats what yo wanted to see.
Thanks for the translation though.
It does help.

]]> By: Section9 http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/2008/11/27/no-wonder-the-gop-is-on-its-knees/#comment-530 Section9 Sat, 29 Nov 2008 11:00:49 +0000 #comment-530 <p>...ran the railroad right off the tracks.</p> <p>Jesus wept.</p> …ran the railroad right off the tracks.

Jesus wept.

]]> By: Jaded http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/2008/11/27/no-wonder-the-gop-is-on-its-knees/#comment-529 Jaded Sat, 29 Nov 2008 08:46:18 +0000 #comment-529 <p>have that in common :-)</p> <p>Now Flake would be wonderful BUT he has a job to do and rebuilding the Party is going to be a full time venture!....It is like hiring the Business Development guy for you company.....he is NOT doing the secretarial work also he is strictly SELLING your product and you WANT him schmoozing a promoting your product so that best people (politicians) WANT to OWN it to.</p> <p>I mean if we are going to have the RNC Chair be someone who is already working on his or her states people's business we are going to have a distracted Chair....because the first ORDER of their committment OUGHT to be to their people!</p> have that in common :-)

Now Flake would be wonderful BUT he has a job to do and rebuilding the Party is going to be a full time venture!….It is like hiring the Business Development guy for you company…..he is NOT doing the secretarial work also he is strictly SELLING your product and you WANT him schmoozing a promoting your product so that best people (politicians) WANT to OWN it to.

I mean if we are going to have the RNC Chair be someone who is already working on his or her states people’s business we are going to have a distracted Chair….because the first ORDER of their committment OUGHT to be to their people!

]]> By: Mike_Dugas http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/2008/11/27/no-wonder-the-gop-is-on-its-knees/#comment-528 Mike_Dugas Sat, 29 Nov 2008 08:20:58 +0000 #comment-528 <p>I do believe that it has to do with a life of going it on your own in a rugged environment and the pride that that instills in ones self. I grew up in west Texas, New Mexico and Arizona and love those wild places and their peoples. When people get used to the government doing for them, thinking for them, teaching them they lose something inside. They become dependent and followers and forget about vision and faith and the pride self reliance brings to them and their families. Hence 2008</p> I do believe that it has to do with a life of going it on your own in a rugged environment and the pride that that instills in ones self. I grew up in west Texas, New Mexico and Arizona and love those wild places and their peoples.
When people get used to the government doing for them, thinking for them, teaching them they lose something inside.
They become dependent and followers and forget about vision and faith and the pride self reliance brings to them and their families. Hence 2008

]]> By: Doc_Holliday http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/2008/11/27/no-wonder-the-gop-is-on-its-knees/#comment-527 Doc_Holliday Sat, 29 Nov 2008 06:17:46 +0000 #comment-527 <p>I have a VA/TX heritage, but I am always amazed how AZ puts out so many libertarian-conservatives, the people I think are the real conservatives. Of course there is Goldwater, but the list does go on. I can include Texans and some from other states west of Texas and east of California lol. </p> <p>I am not exactly sure why they put out the most libertarian minded types, but I have a good idea why. If you want to go back to the cowboys days, it would not be totally off base. There is something about people from a rugged land that tend to mind their own business and defend what is theirs. I think Alaskans such as Palin have a bit of that atribute. I think most areas of the country are set in their ways, in many way lol, but there is something about AZ Repubs that has always clicked with me. Don't get me wrong, Virginia is home and I would never claim another one.</p> I have a VA/TX heritage, but I am always amazed how AZ puts out so many libertarian-conservatives, the people I think are the real conservatives. Of course there is Goldwater, but the list does go on. I can include Texans and some from other states west of Texas and east of California lol.

I am not exactly sure why they put out the most libertarian minded types, but I have a good idea why. If you want to go back to the cowboys days, it would not be totally off base. There is something about people from a rugged land that tend to mind their own business and defend what is theirs. I think Alaskans such as Palin have a bit of that atribute. I think most areas of the country are set in their ways, in many way lol, but there is something about AZ Repubs that has always clicked with me. Don’t get me wrong, Virginia is home and I would never claim another one.

]]> By: Mike_Dugas http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/2008/11/27/no-wonder-the-gop-is-on-its-knees/#comment-526 Mike_Dugas Sat, 29 Nov 2008 05:24:14 +0000 #comment-526 <p>The post was about Steele being RNC chair and his qualifications. No one asked about who else I might like except you so here it goes. Jeff Flake would be a good choice, he's on his 3rd or 4th term, I believe, in AZ. I*'d have to check up on his stats but from what I remember he's a small gov., anti-pork conservative with several campaigns worth of organizing experience to go with it. He has also had alot of time in to see who else is like minded. Jeb Hensarling(hope I am spelling that right)from Dist.5 in Tx. is a personal fav of mine. Pence is worth a look at also. I am not familiar enough with Shadegg to say anything but will look him up. As far as Steele goes Doc I have nothing against him but his experience and his stance against the death penalty. His time as Lt. Gov. does nothing for me as it's mostly a rah-rah position which is what it was designed for. He spent almost his entire time traveling the state of Maryland getting face time for himself and supporting the Govs stances. That is what he was supposed to do but I don't see it as experience needed for RNC chair. Now several people have come back and stated that it's not a job that experience is called for. That's ridiculous. There is NOTHING more important than selecting and supporting the right candidates that stay on message both during and AFTER the elections. But hey that's just me and my opinion right, which in the end is what all this is about. Ideas and opinions. Lets just hope they are the RIGHT ones this time around. BTW, I thought I was the only knucklehead on this early other than Pej. Thanks for the response.</p> The post was about Steele being RNC chair and his qualifications. No one asked about who else I might like except you so here it goes. Jeff Flake would be a good choice, he’s on his 3rd or 4th term, I believe, in AZ. I*’d have to check up on
his stats but from what I remember he’s a small gov., anti-pork conservative with several campaigns worth of organizing experience to go with it. He has also had alot of time in to see who else is like minded. Jeb Hensarling(hope I am spelling that right)from Dist.5 in Tx. is a personal fav of mine. Pence is worth a look at also. I am not familiar enough with Shadegg to say anything but will look him up.
As far as Steele goes Doc I have nothing against him but his experience and his stance against the death penalty. His time as Lt. Gov. does nothing for me as it’s mostly a rah-rah position which is what it was designed for. He spent almost his entire time traveling the state of Maryland getting face time for himself and supporting the Govs stances. That is what he was supposed to do but I don’t see it as experience needed for RNC chair. Now several people have come back and stated that it’s not a job that experience is called for. That’s ridiculous. There is NOTHING more important than selecting and supporting the right candidates that stay on message both during and AFTER the elections. But hey that’s just me and my opinion right, which in the end is what all this is about. Ideas and opinions. Lets just hope they are the RIGHT ones this time around.
BTW, I thought I was the only knucklehead on this early other than Pej.
Thanks for the response.

]]> By: Doc_Holliday http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/2008/11/27/no-wonder-the-gop-is-on-its-knees/#comment-525 Doc_Holliday Sat, 29 Nov 2008 04:39:20 +0000 #comment-525 <p>I don't speak for Jaded. I think you are wrong when you say he is a "knee-jerk" reaction to Obama. If anything, he is a knee-jerk reaction to the leaders who have run this party into the ground.</p> <p>And you are wrong to call him a neophyte, when compared to any others who would be a fresh face with new ideas. He did not just run for Lt. Governor, he won. He has also been a party spokesman for years.</p> <p>Personally, I am not ready to annoint the man. I think we need to move more to the libertarian wing ala Shadegg/Flake. But Steele could do a good job and again I have yet to read a specific suggestion from you sir.</p> I don’t speak for Jaded. I think you are wrong when you say he is a “knee-jerk” reaction to Obama. If anything, he is a knee-jerk reaction to the leaders who have run this party into the ground.

And you are wrong to call him a neophyte, when compared to any others who would be a fresh face with new ideas. He did not just run for Lt. Governor, he won. He has also been a party spokesman for years.

Personally, I am not ready to annoint the man. I think we need to move more to the libertarian wing ala Shadegg/Flake. But Steele could do a good job and again I have yet to read a specific suggestion from you sir.

]]> By: Mike_Dugas http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/2008/11/27/no-wonder-the-gop-is-on-its-knees/#comment-524 Mike_Dugas Sat, 29 Nov 2008 04:03:57 +0000 #comment-524 <p>I don't apologize for being a conservative either yet I know I don't have the where with all to be RNC chair. And they have more than just being black in common. They ARE BOTH political neophytes popular within their parties for their newness and not being tainted by Washington cooties. The gentleman's resume consists of one campaign for Lt. Gov. The RNC chair is a position that begs for experience and connections within the party and out.</p> <p>I'm sorry Jaded but our Party's situation demands that we have someone who we KNOW can do it not someone we HOPE can do it. </p> I don’t apologize for being a conservative either yet I know I don’t have the where with all to be RNC chair. And they have more than just being black in common. They ARE BOTH political neophytes popular within their parties for their newness and not being tainted by Washington cooties.
The gentleman’s resume consists of one campaign for Lt. Gov. The RNC chair is a position that begs for experience and connections within the party and out.

I’m sorry Jaded but our Party’s situation demands that we have someone who we KNOW can do it not someone we HOPE can do it.

]]> By: JSobieski http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/2008/11/27/no-wonder-the-gop-is-on-its-knees/#comment-523 JSobieski Sat, 29 Nov 2008 00:44:30 +0000 #comment-523 <p>we need a spokesperson. Have someone else due the "administrative" stuff for which the resume matters.</p> we need a spokesperson. Have someone else due the “administrative” stuff for which the resume matters.

]]> By: Whitehorse http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/2008/11/27/no-wonder-the-gop-is-on-its-knees/#comment-522 Whitehorse Fri, 28 Nov 2008 23:57:38 +0000 #comment-522 <p>That's where the power in the Republcan party comes from, the grassroots. I too am appalled at the tone of his email. I will contact our RNC representatives & ask that they support an RNC chair candidate who is a true, bold-color complete conservative.</p> That’s where the power in the Republcan party comes from, the grassroots. I too am appalled at the tone of his email. I will contact our RNC representatives & ask that they support an RNC chair candidate who is a true, bold-color complete conservative.

]]> By: Jaded http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/2008/11/27/no-wonder-the-gop-is-on-its-knees/#comment-521 Jaded Fri, 28 Nov 2008 23:41:34 +0000 #comment-521 <p>Michael Steele do so because a black was elected President ie: knee jerk to Obama....what else it could it mean to say that? what else do the two have in common but being black? I am sure you meant no harm but that statement is exactly that we are being reverse racists! I like him because I like his message I like the way he delivers it HE DOESN'T APOLOGIZE FOR BEING CONSERVATIVE!</p> <p>WE need that in our party WE need to be unapologetic....period!</p> Michael Steele do so because a black was elected President ie: knee jerk to Obama….what else it could it mean to say that? what else do the two have in common but being black? I am sure you meant no harm but that statement is exactly that we are being reverse racists! I like him because I like his message I like the way he delivers it HE DOESN’T APOLOGIZE FOR BEING CONSERVATIVE!

WE need that in our party WE need to be unapologetic….period!

]]> By: Diogenes314 http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/2008/11/27/no-wonder-the-gop-is-on-its-knees/#comment-520 Diogenes314 Fri, 28 Nov 2008 23:40:11 +0000 #comment-520 <p><b>Not American enough and attacks on my mother? Classic. Like I said before...</b></p> <blockquote> <p>Without reviewing all of my posts, I'm fairly sure that any 'belittling' I have done is in response to dismissive comments from others, and that I have shown more self restraint than them.</p> </blockquote> <p><b>But keep up the good work.</b></p> Not American enough and attacks on my mother? Classic. Like I said before…

Without reviewing all of my posts, I’m fairly sure that any ‘belittling’ I have done is in response to dismissive comments from others, and that I have shown more self restraint than them.

But keep up the good work.

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