[NOTE FROM MANAGEMENT - Though it should go without saying, this poll is neither official, nor sanctioned by RedState management, nor any more scientific or accurate than any online poll posted in the diaries of any other open community website by a community member. As Ron Paul's results have amply demonstrated over the last four years, interactive/internet polls are rarely dispositive of actual status, sentiment, or electoral potential in any setting, let alone when posted in the community forum section of an open community site (the final line of this blog post should provide one of many major clues why that is). Bearing that in mind, feel free to enjoy reading this diary and participating in its poll. -JE]
RedStaters -
It is time once again to check the pulse of the RedState community. It has been quite an eventful last couple of months in the development of the Republican presidential field. Now’s the time to get an updated measure of RedStaters’ presidential primary preferences. NOTE: Make sure to look over the full list of candidates provided. Beyond the current candidates, I have also included Christie, Giuliani and Palin to capture their potential impact on the race if they were to enter (as explained below).
Please take one minute to go here and participate in the poll.
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How this is done – the Pick 5 framework: From the list provided, simply cast your vote for your #1 preferred candidate. Then, assume that your #1 preferred candidate is no longer available to choose: who would be your candidate of choice among the rest? Do this again for your 3rd, 4th and 5th choice. You will have to pick your top 5 choices. [Note: For the 5th choice, I do give you an option to say you would not vote in the primary, but please do not use this if at all possible. Usually at that stage you would still vote - if nothing else, voting for someone as a vote against someone you perceive to be even worse!! ;o) ]
I hope this will become a monthly (or so) snapshot of the leanings of RedState participants – giving an indicator of shifts and trends in the attractiveness of the various campaigns.
Please participate in the September edition of this poll and encourage others to participate as well. It only takes a minute. It would be great to get a large set of RedStater responses to analyze.
And… DON’T BE A DEMOCRAT! Participate once – but only once – for this September survey.
Moe Lane
PG DeFreese
Victoria Coates
Daniel Horowitz
Dan Spencer
Done. (once)
luvnthebigsites (Diary) Sunday, September 25th at 5:58PM EST (link)The early results were telling… But I’m not a spoiler, I’ll never tell!
Everyone should participate! Its all fun and games until Mbecker shows up though. (Dude, skip the lecture this go around… Let us have our survey monkey fun ok?)
“Ask not what your candidate can do for you, but what you can do for your candidate”. Andrew Breitbart CPAC 2012.
I hope no Dems show up to vote for Cain...
gekster (Diary) Monday, September 26th at 1:55AM EST (link)and skew the results.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
Ok folks, 2012 is here. Get involved
I've heard they've been doing that
easyb (Diary) Monday, September 26th at 2:07AM EST (link)Now where was that link again…
Paulbots have already destroyed this
wennejunk (Diary) Monday, September 26th at 5:51AM EST (link)You go and find they have already come in and skewed yet another poll.
Its like an annoying little brother who is always in your business.
There are only two kinds of people in the end: those who say to God, ‘Thy will be done,’ and those to whom God says, in the end, ‘Thy will be done.’ -C. S. Lewis
paulbots live in their parents basement and spam internet presidential polls
mikeymike143 (Diary) Monday, September 26th at 3:57PM EST (link)for their nutjob candidate. does anyone on this site really think that redstate members prefer paul over perry by a more than 2 to 1 margin? LOL. of course dishonestly is par for the course from the ron paul faction.
i remember the paulbots did the same thing in 2007. ron paul won a ton of online polls and his delusional paulbots complained about paul not being treated as a top tier contender by the press. then the actual republican primary took place and 19 OUT OF 20 REPUBLICAN PRIMARY VOTERS REJECTED THIS LOSER. and the same wisdom that the primary voters showed in 2008 will be repeated in 2012.
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Interesting results.
barleycorn (Diary) Monday, September 26th at 9:46AM EST (link)While not “scientific” the results are very interesting and in fact point toward very good news for one candidate and only one.
As always, the interesting stuff is beneath the surface.
Sleeper candidate Newt
mbauer (Diary) Monday, September 26th at 10:49AM EST (link)Just thumbed through the current results. Newt wins the plurality of 3rd and 4th choice for president. I would love to see more discussion about him around here. Can his baggage be overcome? I do think he is as serious as the top tier fiscons about reducing the deficit, and has a track record. His Paul Ryan comment hurt him greatly in my book, and I’m just now taking a second look.
My thinking now is that Mitt and Rick may have peaked until the field size shrinks. Which means those in the camp of liking neither would maximize their chances by coalescing around one of the other candidates. I’m waiting to see how much traction Cain can get… but would just as gladly go for Newt. (Hell, I could vote for Santorum if he could polish his public speaking ability).
Full disclosure, I’ve been in the Mitch Daniels, Bobby Jindal, or Mark Sanford camp since 2009. None of my horses are in this race.
Gingrich's baggage weighs more in the primary... but.
acat (Diary) Monday, September 26th at 10:57AM EST (link)Gingrich’s stint on a couch with Pelosi in an Al Gore scarey-theatre* commercial, Newt’s trouble with his wives and aides, etc. is mostly going to weigh against him in the primary, it would matter less in the general, just as Reagan’s divorce cost him in 1980.
However.
I’m not sure Gingrich is all that great on the stump. He’s not won a statewide election, and the post of Speaker of the House is not an executive position. Those will weigh against him more in the general than his “baggage”.
Mew
* Somehow, Al Gore doing his full-on climate rant reminds me a little of Svengoolie. I guess ya gotta be from Berwyn to get that…
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Yes and maybe
mbauer (Diary) Monday, September 26th at 11:39AM EST (link)Yup, you are right about the commercial. Then again, if we want to run a purity test, I’d bet Newt is as close to the top as anyone (Feel free to prove me wrong though).
While he’s not been an executive, nor personally one a statewide election, the argument could be made that he won a national election by flipping the house for the first time in 40 years. We always praise executives over legislatures for having actually run something. I think running the house of representatives is the best political substitute possible.
Without projecting on him too much… his debate performances always seem to show he has an extra level of depth of understanding about the interviews. I think at this point he would be able to go toe to toe against the current POTUS better than any of the other declared candidates. Again, feel free to prove me wrong.
He’s mentioned he’s releasing a details specific plan this week (contract 2.0 or something). I hope it gets thoroughly analyzed here and not overlooked because some say Newt doesn’t have a shot at this point.
Purity tests are counterproductive and highly dependent...
acat (Diary) Monday, September 26th at 12:05PM EST (link)on whose litmus strips are used.
To this cat, a balanced candidate with some warts outweighs a candidate who is very pure but is only strong in one area. I want the three-legged-stool, pro-family, pro-defense, pro-growth candidate. I don’t see a lot of those on the stage.
Mew
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agree
Common_Cents (Diary) Monday, September 26th at 12:30PM EST (link)If you look at the debates in total I think Gingrich has been the best and most consistent.
I think the baggage label is overdone, especially in this week economic climate. People want solutions and leadership and will overlook much baggage.
Obama=Golfer in Chief, Leading from,
behind, the Back Nine.Leaders don’t create movements. Movements create leaders. Get involved. Your future depends on it.
Govt “invests” YOUR tax money for POLITICAL return rather than economic return.
By the end of the process,
wennejunk (Diary) Monday, September 26th at 10:49PM EST (link)I think most sane voters would be happy to simply have an adult in the white house.
There are only two kinds of people in the end: those who say to God, ‘Thy will be done,’ and those to whom God says, in the end, ‘Thy will be done.’ -C. S. Lewis
Entertainment
papabear (Diary) Tuesday, September 27th at 6:30PM EST (link)Quite interesting that the top “contender” is not a declared candidate. Most RSers poke fun at “Paulbots”, but at least they are voting for a declared candidate …
I am sure that many of us RSers could pull the lever for Paul
papabear (Diary) Tuesday, September 27th at 6:34PM EST (link)If the other choice were Obama.
I would like to here other RS comments (assuming you are not a raving Paul fan). My point is that ANY of the declared (R) candidates would be preferable to Obama.
I refuse to pull the lever for Ron Paul. Period.
acat (Diary) Tuesday, September 27th at 7:10PM EST (link)I’ll be voting green for president if Ron Paul is the GOP nominee.
I’ve been clear on this point. Ron Paul? Don’t make me puke.
Mew
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I admit that I could be missing something
papabear (Diary) Tuesday, September 27th at 7:27PM EST (link)As I see it, Paul is, to put it tenderly, a bit nutty. I think he would probably be as bad as Obama in foreign policy. However, I am pretty sure that he would drastically reduce the size of the federal government. Although I think Paul would be a disaster, he would still be a net improvement over Obama.
I am interested in hearing specific issues/complaints/policies that would make him worse than Obama …
Ron Paul is like mental russian roulette...
acat (Diary) Tuesday, September 27th at 7:45PM EST (link)He’ll say a couple rational things, and you start thinking you’re safe, then ..
Blam. Iran’s not dangerous.
Blam. Gold standard.
The Ron Paul approach to shrinking the size of government would only slightly less insane than reducing the size of the federal government by creating an alphabetized list of every employee and firing every third person regardless of position.
Bernanke, Ben. Head of federal reserve. Gone.
Bernard, James. Janitor. Keep.
Bernard, Keith. Park ranger. Keep.
Mew
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acat, I've got a question about that.
Melody Warbington (rwm52) (Diary) Tuesday, September 27th at 10:02PM EST (link)Not that I think Paul will ever be the nominee (of course, I thought Hillary would beat Obama, too), but IF Paul were ever elected POTUS, wouldn’t there surely be enough effort by Congress to keep him in check?
The woman saith unto him, I know that Messiah cometh (he that is called Christ): when he is come, he will declare unto us all things. (John 4:25)
rwm52, are you proposing Boehner and McConnell to check POTUS Luap Nor?
acat (Diary) Wednesday, September 28th at 11:51AM EST (link)I would bet on teh crazee over teh folding suits…
Mew
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Yeah, Palin's just gonna clean up.
Bill S (Diary) Tuesday, September 27th at 9:36PM EST (link)http://clarusrg.com/content/september-27-2011
Yeesh. Internet poll fail.
“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins
Palin backs herself away from Presidential...
onemovoter (Diary) Tuesday, September 27th at 10:26PM EST (link)Run talking to Gretta just a little bit ago when asked again about the timeline to getting in.
Palin asks: ‘Does a title shackle a person, someone like me, who’s a maverick…Is a title, and a campaign, too shackle-y? I’m one who likes to call it like it is.’
“Any fool can criticize, condemn, and complain, and most fools do.”- Benjamin Franklin
“I don’t make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts.”- Will Rogers