Contract With America II


If not now, when?   It is about to be the 16th anniversary of CWA.     This is an unedited idea I posted on American Solutions way back before I realized it was just a book selling website for Newt.    Needs some work now, but thought I’d see how it flies before refining it again.Solution Overview

Thereafter, within the first 100 days of the 112th(?) Congress, we shall bring to the House Floor the following bills, each to be given full and open debate, each to be given a clear and fair vote and each to be immediately available this day for public inspection and scrutiny.

1. Fiscal Responsibility Act – Enact zero base line budgeting, rather than automatic increases in budgets for government programs. Pledge to freeze government spending for 4 years to reduce government deficits and strengthen the value of the dollar and our credit abroad.

2. Energy Freedom and Independence Act – By federal mandate, prevent courts, state/local governments and environmental groups from preventing construction of new refineries, biofuel refineries, solar energy, nuclear and wind power. Open up all major areas of the US for oil and natural gas exploration, including coastal areas and ANWR. Sell off Strategic Petroleum Reserve and replace with the Strategic Algal Fuel Reserve on a barrel for barrel basis, jump starting algae biofuel development and production. Completely replace foreign oil imports with US petroleum reserves and biofuels by 2020. Require all car manufacturers to make biofuel engines and energy sipping DSG or available in all cars by 2012.

3. Healthcare Diversity Act – Creates penalties for prescription drug gouging, allowing American to the same low prices available in other countries. Protects doctors and hospitals from excessive lawsuits, preventing unnecessary procedures. Provides special protections to small cash only healthcare clinics formed by doctors and nurses to provide care for the under insured.

4. One Human Race Act – Removes all accounting or use of race from federal programs or law permanently, including the census, but excluding generalized law enforcement descriptors. Create a new standard of treating individuals as individuals rather than limited by or empowered by their genetic backgrounds.

5. Justice Equality and Citizen Protection Act – Creates mandatory minimum standards for felony crime that removes judicial unfairness and creates a standard of ‘equal time for equal crime’. Creates enhanced mandatory minimums for repeat offenders. Creates a proactive intranet learning environment for reducing recidivism rate. Allots money for more federally operated prisons to stop the ‘catch and release’ going on due to lack of prison space and requires states to contract with federal prisons rather than releasing due to overcrowding. Address rules that allow judges to throw out evidence on technicalities, rather than admit all of the evidence

6. Lady Liberty Act – Immigration reform that returns the US to a land of opportunity for hard-working individuals. Creates an “illegal to legal” program that brings current immigrants out of the shadows and allows them to pursue citizenship over time with humane fines. Brings aboard needed legal, taxpaying citizens and prevents worker abuse. Allows for family relocation and travel within confined limits. Reforms the aging bureaucratic INS system. Creates guest worker VISAs. Enhances border patrols to target drug smuggling.

7. Crime and Drug Sanity Act – Legalizes growth, possession and use of marijuana for personal use ON A FEDERAL LEVEL, state and local ordinances may vary. Maintains federal law enforcement of marijuana sales and importation. Legalizes hemp for agricultural use. De-criminalizes use of ‘hard’ drugs ON A FEDERAL LEVEL. Increases penalties with mandatory minimums for the sale, distribution and importation of addictive drugs such as meth amphetamines, cocaine, heroin. Calls for the review of all non-violent drug offenders now in jail.

8. Citizen Congress and Voter Choice Act – Creates single term limit for all members of Congress to eliminate corruption, and create voter choice. Creates an even playing field by eliminating incumbency. Eliminates the allure of pork barrel spending an earmarks.

9. Fair Tax Choice Act – Creates fixed flat tax as an option to conventional tax filing. Tax payers may choose the option which works best for their situation.

10. Social Security/Medicare Choice Act – Creates optional Medical/Retirement Savings Account program to replace conventional Social Security and Medicare on an individual basis, allowing choice for tax payers.

11. Education Choice Act – Mandates that all federal spending on education be available to be transferred on a per student basis to a school of the parents’ choosing, including private school. Eliminates bi-lingual subsidies.

12. Defense Reform Act – Closes unneeded military bases in European countries. Reallocates resources to global hot spots such as the Middle East or Africa. Creates smaller, more diverse bases with fewer personnel and cost designed to respond to terrorist activities. Pursues lower cost technologies for defense rather than overkill exotic technologies. Focuses on troop level technology and resources.

13. Poverty Reduction Act – We pledge to strengthen home ownership programs, work with businesses to create government backed car loans for very high economy vehicles. We pledge to directly address the poverty in America through examining the costs afflicting the poor. We pledge to take a strong stance towards predatory lending, government fees, fines, interest penalties, healthcare, housing and insurances costs.



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Im surprised Cantor hasnt done that yet

redtillimdead (Diary) Tuesday, September 1st at 12:12AM EST (link)

Im surprised he hasnt come up with something like Contract with America. He is certainly creative enough. Maybe waiting until closer to elections?

Nancy Pelosi can kiss my asstroturf.

He needs to maximize it's potential impact

scarlos (Diary) Tuesday, September 1st at 12:53AM EST (link)

He’s probably waiting until Obamacare and cap-and-tax finally die, and take the Democrat’s political hopes down with them. That way he has a better chance of it becoming an extremely high-profile measure.

Paraphrasing Sun Tzu “The key to winning is to put yourself beyond defeat (killing obamacare) and then to not miss the right moment to strike the enemy (introducing CWA2)”

Socialism is Oligarchy in disguise

 
 

I have a problem with #3

Husker (Diary) Tuesday, September 1st at 3:44AM EST (link)

3. Healthcare Diversity Act – Creates penalties for prescription drug gouging, allowing American to the same low prices available in other countries. Protects doctors and hospitals from excessive lawsuits, preventing unnecessary procedures. Provides special protections to small cash only healthcare clinics formed by doctors and nurses to provide care for the under insured.

First, I have a big problem with any government telling someone what their intellectual property is worth. The American consumer is already picking up the tab for every other country setting price controls on medicines. This is little more than a veiled attempt at a profit windfall grab.

Let’s say you enact a price control on medicine, will you take responsibility if those companies either (A.) Layoff thousands of American workers, or (B.) Move operations overseas for cheaper labor, thus losing another American company to greener pastures. R&D is very expensive.

Installing a “loser pays” system addressing lawsuits will keep the ambulance chasers away.

True....

john_ashman (Diary) Tuesday, September 1st at 10:09AM EST (link)

I was thinking of changing this, though I do think we should be able to buy drugs from Mexico or Canada if they’re going to jack the prices up here.

On drug prices ...

Martin Knight (Diary) Tuesday, September 1st at 11:28AM EST (link)

It takes about a billion dollars to develop a drug, go through all the testing and certification phases and get it to market. In other words, the Pharmaceutical companies don’t just “jack up the prices” for fun.

Nations (like Canada) that dictate the price they’re going to pay for drugs (i.e. nations with government run healthcare systems) are the principal reason why prices are so high in the United States. The Pharmaceutical companies need to recover their investment.

So Americans are being forced to subsidize the cost of drugs for the rest of the world. A happy aftereffect of that is that America is the home of the bulk of medical and pharmacological innovation and advancement. The unhappy aftereffect is that Americans pay more than everyone else.

I agree...

john_ashman (Diary) Tuesday, September 1st at 12:27PM EST (link)

The more I’ve thought about it over the year or so since I wrote this, the more I have come to believe that there are other ways of bring the costs down. Paying cash, for instance. Or allowing to bring drugs back in from Mexico. Drugs are very inexpensive there and not because the government is interfering in pricing.

One of the points of my MRSA idea is to have all drugs paid for in ‘cash’ via the account. This will drive the pricing down. And if people want to fly to Mexico or Asia to buy the same drug for less, let them.

But it is true that drug companies are keeping prices inflated and making high profits. And that is fine, to a point, but there is not a free market for drugs here. So the market forces are rigged to support the high prices whereas they are not in other countries.

 
 
 
 

I have a problem with the Lady Liberty Act....

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Tuesday, September 1st at 9:50AM EST (link)

The fact that illegals have done illegal activities related to first their entry into America then their use of SS#’s to get jobs (Americans would be tried for FRAUD) does not a good start make. They should be treated as criminals if it is found they have used fraudulent SS#’s and those fines should be HEAVY & ONEROUS due to the fact that some hard working American has had to pay thousands to get their good name back. I just find rewarding bad behavior to be WRONG, it encourages further bad behavior. I am sick of the “shadows” misnomer as well. These people are hardly in the “shadows” as was apparent by their Mayday marches.

Good Americans come from those who work within the system to get here and can afford their relatives when they get here.

Any time....

john_ashman (Diary) Tuesday, September 1st at 10:13AM EST (link)

you make a natural human activity illegal, you’re going to create a whole class of criminals. Prostitution laws, drug laws, immigration laws. We used to have easy, free immigration. Now it takes years or decades and costs thousands and thousands of dollars.

I’m sure you speed, every one does. What if they started putting you in jail for that or following you around, waiting for you to make a mistake. Is this the foundation of our country? The right is wrong on immigration. Something else I need to expound upon in detail.

The right is NOT wrong on ILLEGAL immigration...

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Tuesday, September 1st at 10:27AM EST (link)

There is no other country that allows illegals to plant foot and stay and you would have us to do that? Do WE not have boundaries? Are we not a sovereign nation? I do not speed because I do not want a ticket so again you are WRONG. It is your exact kind of “compassionate” conservatism that has destroyed the Republican party. I think of American’s first as other countries think of their citizens first and at this moment in time there is 9.7 percent unemployment and you want to bring in 20 million or so to compete with American’s for jobs? where is the compassion for your fellow citizens. I have seen each of your diaries and you are without a doubt a David Brooks kind of Republican and we need more Conservatives like Jim DeMint.

If we had allowed amnesty as Bush and McCain wanted that would be 12 – 20 million people on the public dole right now because those jobs are gone. The construction jobs that made it so appealing to break the laws are gone and we the tax payers would be supporting those illegals and their families right now.

The crux of the illegals and lets be clear and NOT obfuscate we are talking about ILLEGALS is that if America doesn’t FORCE its neighbor to the south into being a 1st rate country where their citizens want to live instead of a banana republic then this amnesty will be followed by another and by another and on and on. It is a neverending story. I repeat the United States of America should NEVER reward ILLEGAL behavior EVER!

Let me ask you this....

john_ashman (Diary) Tuesday, September 1st at 11:10AM EST (link)

Are immigrants coming because they love breaking the law?

Or because there are unfilled, but well paying menial jobs here and the laws are so draconian that it turns legal immigration into illegal immigration.

Whatever happened to civil disobedience in this country?

I would suggest you are one of those Pat Roberts type Republicans that only pick and choose the conservative values it likes and prevents Republicans from taking over indefinitely. Quite frankly, you sound like an anti-liberal. Equal and opposite in anger and blind righteousness. Good luck with that.

You are a big government liberal and if you spent anytime here you...

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Tuesday, September 1st at 11:51AM EST (link)

would know I am the furthest thing from a Pat Robertson (duh) Republican and I don’t pick and choose Conservative values because Conservatism doesn’t need to be chosen it just IS!! It is smaller government, government that is out of your bedroom and out of your wallet.

It is R’s like you who want to redefine what it means to be Conservative that are making the party D-lite. There is no “compassionate” Conservative because as humans we are all compassionate and it is our desire to help our fellow man and NOT the governments to decide whom to help. I am not blind in my righteousness I am wide awake and it’s all black and white there are no grays but you see how that works for you.

The Republican party was DESTROYED because they spent like drunken sailors. They were DESTROYED because they wanted to reward bad behavior in the ILLEGALS debate. They have DESTROYED themselves by acting like elite liberals and they have now seen what that gets them….NOTHING. You keep hoping that your type of Republican will win the day and I will work to see that Conservatives in all their glory are restored back to the Congress. Why I bet you just loved McCain and you probably think Crist is the best thing EVAH coming out of Florida and I would be that person working to ensure that neither gets to Congress in 2010. It will be Conservatives like me WRENCHING the party back to the RIGHT who will bring the country back to the middle and off it’s trajectory to the left.

Civil disobedience in this country? You are seeing it everyday on the TV and internet, it is the TEA Parties and the townhalls and God Bless those Americans who are having their voices heard who are saying “no more big government”. I see everything you have in your CWA and its all MORE government which is exactly what those expressing civil disobedience are trying to end.

If Republicans take your advise they will no more get elected then the tools in Congress right this minute. It will be the candidates who say they will take the power back out of DC and give it back to the States that will win the elections in 2010.

Well, then maybe...

john_ashman (Diary) Tuesday, September 1st at 12:11PM EST (link)

You should stop making ill advised comparisons if you wish not to be judged yourself. I honestly think you’re as bad as the extremists on the Huffington Post. That’s how you come off. Angry, reactionary, with no self-examination, dogmatic. If not, prove me wrong.

I don't need to prove a damn thing to you....

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Tuesday, September 1st at 12:19PM EST (link)

as you will note I have been here quite a long time and you are new. I note that you thought Erick should just let you jump in and have your way with this site and I can honestly say THANK YOU ERICK for saying NO. Your type of Republicanism is exactly the type WE out here are trying to end because it’s liberal in its concept. It is wanting the government to do for people instead of people doing for themselves. It will be Conservatives/Libertarians who will be deciding the next election and D’lite Republicans will be left behind. So you actually have to prove yourself here I already have.

I am not angry and I am hardly reactionary I have concrete ideas and I am comfortable with them and express them. I suggest you examine exactly what your type of D’LITE Republicanism is doing for you as for me my Conservatism holds me in good stead, no self examination necessary.

I'm not a Republican.

john_ashman (Diary) Tuesday, September 1st at 1:09PM EST (link)

I’m a conservative. I believe in the Constitution. And I’m trying to provoke thought amongst intelligent folks here, not provoke personal attacks. I think you are clearly angry and reactionary. And you keep proving me right.

G'bye (nt)

Neil Stevens (Diary) Tuesday, September 1st at 1:12PM EST (link)

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Darn, all that energy for nothing. Oh well... nt

penguin2 (Diary) Tuesday, September 1st at 1:23PM EST (link)

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dude you are not a Conservative....

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Tuesday, September 1st at 1:12PM EST (link)

all of your “ideas” involve government a TRUE Conservative does not see government as the answer. I will note this site is crawling with Conservatives and yet your diaries do not get recommended. So are your idea’s the problem or are all these Conservatives wrong….hmmm….I will go with door number 1.

 
 
 

I would suggest that you are one of those arrogant

Achance (Diary) Tuesday, September 1st at 12:20PM EST (link)

ass-type mobies. In your five days here, you haven’t stopped looking down your nose; good thing it hasn’t rained or you’d have drowned. You don’t post, you lecture. If I wanted to be told what to do and think, I’d be a Democrat. Anybody can claim to be a Republican or a conservative but either you’re a moby or you are possesed of exactly zero awareness of conservative/Republican thought.

In Vino Veritas

 

Projection much?

Steph C (Diary) Tuesday, September 1st at 12:40PM EST (link)

You slung a lot of judgments at Jaded and forgot to look in the mirror.

Or because there are unfilled, but well paying menial jobs here and the laws are so draconian that it turns legal immigration into illegal immigration.

Aren’t you saying that citizens think they’re too good to do those sorts of jobs? If so, that smacks of elitism and Jaded has you pegged exactly right.

And, yet, here you are talking “down” to her and everybody else based on your own projection. I suggest you do some self-examination of your own before you worry about anybody else.

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5 5 5 ......nt

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Tuesday, September 1st at 12:41PM EST (link)
 

"you're as bad as the extremists on Huffington Post"

penguin2 (Diary) Tuesday, September 1st at 12:58PM EST (link)

That is an insult to Jaded. It is obvious you have entirely different views of the majority of the writers and readers of this site. Even those who might have some variance still have respect for the others. I read all of your manifesto several times, and frankly was disappointed in what I saw there. IMO, your political views are quite liberal and sound Democrat to me. I doubt there are going to be any here interested in your persuasions.

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Do you have a twin named "BrooksRob"? -nt-

civil truth (Diary) Tuesday, September 1st at 1:06PM EST (link)

The greatest evil…is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clean, carpeted, warmed, and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voice. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the offices of a thoroughly nasty business concern. -C.S. Lewis

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I guess not, since you lasted here less than a week. -nt-

civil truth (Diary) Tuesday, September 1st at 1:20PM EST (link)

The greatest evil…is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clean, carpeted, warmed, and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voice. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the offices of a thoroughly nasty business concern. -C.S. Lewis

http://www.gmsplace.com/

 
 
 
 

Illegal immigration is not "civil disobedience" ...

Martin Knight (Diary) Tuesday, September 1st at 11:51AM EST (link)

… not even close.

And quite frankly, you’re out of line to suggest/imply that Jaded is some sort of xenophobe (which is how I interpret your “Pat Roberts” crack) because she is exercised by it

I didn't say that....

john_ashman (Diary) Tuesday, September 1st at 12:13PM EST (link)

My point is that the Federal government gets increasingly complex and authoritarian and people sit back and take it. A little less lately, but where were the tea parties under Bush?

BTW, Bush was also for comprehensive immigration reform.

Where the anti-war folks are now?

Martin Knight (Diary) Tuesday, September 1st at 12:25PM EST (link)

In case you haven’t figured it out; Bush didn’t control spending but for every year until 2008, the deficit was going down. Second, he was not planning to nationalize 1/6th of the American economy and take away Americans’ rights to make decisions about their healthcare.

Obama has the deficit being projected to be as high 9 trillion at best and 14 at worst.

BTW, Bush was also for comprehensive immigration reform.

So? Why is that a compelling argument? And are you honestly under the impression that we’re not aware of that? Why do you think it failed? The backers of it had a majority of congress behind them but they chickened out because public opinion was against it.

I’ve enjoyed some of your posts, but to be honest none of them are particularly original, and right now you’re beginning to give me the impression that you’re not used to being challenged. It’s best you get used to it – or else, Mark’s cousin or no, you’re in the wrong place.

 

I will tell you where the TEA parties were under President Bush...

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Tuesday, September 1st at 12:27PM EST (link)

they were shutting down the Senate phones on the day they went to vote for illegals to get amnesty. They were shutting down the Senate phone on the day they went to vote for the 700billion dollar debacle in September….we have been here all along calling out and going to townhalls to excoriate our Republican leaders but we didn’t get any attention because the media likes illegal amnesty they like bailouts they like big government. If you had prior to now come to any Conservative sites you would have viewed the anger and the purpose and the commitment to STOPPING the spending but you didn’t. You said yourself you are not on the right so take your holier then thou rhetoric back to the left. We are not buying what you are selling here!

^^^^55555.

spainishirish (Diary) Tuesday, September 1st at 12:31PM EST (link)

The predicate indeed had been laid, Jaded. Excellent point.

Dittos. I remember the Shamnesty for Illegals fight well

ColdWarrior (Diary) Tuesday, September 1st at 12:48PM EST (link)

That effort pales in comparison to what is going on now over the bailouts, the “stimulus,” socialized medicine, “Cap and Tax” and “Card Check.” But it was a good effort and “we the people” stopped that travesty. A big difference is that the Shamnesty proponents were self-identified “conservatives” like Jon Kyl, John McCain and Lindsey Graham. Shamnesty was stopped because these Republicans actually took notice of “we the people” and decided maybe “the people” ought to be listened to. The actually acted like the elected public servant representatives of the people that they are.

Now, we have Debtocrats proposing socialized medicine and they want to ram it through, “the people” be damned. They think of themselves as “leaders” or “rulers,” not representatives of the people who elected them.

As Rush Limbaugh reminds us so often, leftists are dangerous.

And as Dan Perrin has posted here today, there is real hope that in 2010 many of these “leaders” will be sent packing back to their homes. Go here for the good news:

http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/09/01/brooks-calls-senate-reconciliation-strategy-on-health-reform-suicidal/

Thank you.

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Whoa, john ashman.

Loren Heal (Diary) Tuesday, September 1st at 1:12PM EST (link)

You are making the second mistake of your short career here. The first was posting too much stuff. Try to keep it to one a day, and see how the reaction goes. Or, continue as you are, and be ignored.

The next mistake is assuming that all users here are on equal footing. We are not. There are some, such as myself, who have been around long enough to get away with insulting other users. I don’t do it. You have not been around long enough to do so.

There are other users who, because of their consistent and effective content and trustworthy nature, have been given authority to post in the “Red Hot” section and/or the front page of the blog. I’ve been here, off and on, for three and a half years, and do not have such privileges. You will now note the RedHot section.

Which is my way of saying not to guide those who have already walked a path you haven’t.


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Socrates and everyone else...

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Tuesday, September 1st at 2:39PM EST (link)

who said very nice things about me and came to my defense here I want you all to know I am humbled by your appreciation and grateful to have you all as members of my Redstate family :-)

 
 
 
 

Immigration != illegal immigration.

Martin Knight (Diary) Tuesday, September 1st at 12:03PM EST (link)

The right is wrong on immigration.

For someone who claims to be on the right, you seem to have absorbed a lot of the Left’s premises and nastier tactics. One of the latter is deliberately choosing to ignore the very important distinction between legal immigration and illegal immigration.

Perhaps you need to hang around more and do more reading before dropping any more of your pearls of wisdom.

I don't recall claiming to be on the right.

john_ashman (Diary) Tuesday, September 1st at 12:18PM EST (link)

I’m just on the right on most issues.

The problem with immigration is INS and how it is handled. Until that is changed, there will be nothing but bad things happening and all of it will be blamed on the immigrants rather than the true source.

Look back at abolition. What is the difference between having abolition and having a $1000 tax on a bottle of booze? Essentially none. What if there were a 5 year waiting period? Same thing.

Once you make something illegal or extremely difficult, you create criminals. Then you blame the criminals rather than blaming the government. That is not a conservative value. We’ll have this discussion when I go into it in depth and explain more of why the right is wrong on this one pivotal issue.

Once again, I ask you to distinguish between legal and illegal immigrants.

Martin Knight (Diary) Tuesday, September 1st at 12:39PM EST (link)

Otherwise there is no point having any sort of discussion with you.

And by the way, while I agree that the INS could be made more efficient, the true source is the lack of penalties for people who hire illegal immigrants.

PS: Do you have the right to live in Paris? Yes or No? What if there is a five year waiting period? My answer; you wait.

In theory....

john_ashman (Diary) Tuesday, September 1st at 1:05PM EST (link)

If I can afford a place in Paris and want to stay at that place and abide by the local laws, why should I not? It’s not so much that I have a right, it’s that the government is interfering in the private matters of men and if someone wants to rent me an apartment and sell me food, what business is that of the government?

I find little difference between extremely difficult legal immigration and illegal immigration.

Uhhh ... crossing a nation's border is *not* a private matter.

Martin Knight (Diary) Tuesday, September 1st at 2:18PM EST (link)

So basically your position is that France, or the United States by extension, has no right to refuse to allow anyone into their country?

I find little difference between extremely difficult legal immigration and illegal immigration.

Well, we do – the question of whether or not it is “extremely difficult” is neither here nor there. And if you insist on refusing to acknowledge it, no one is going to pay any attention to anything you write on the issue.

 

Maybe it's not about you...

vettepilot (Diary) Tuesday, September 1st at 2:28PM EST (link)

[yeah, I know Neil blammed him, but I'm going to reply anyway]

Maybe it’s about everyone else. Maybe it’s because as a non-citizen of a country, you shouldn’t be entitled to benefits that actual citizens pay taxes for. Maybe it’s because it’s impossible for the rest of us to plan and account for a large number of people who are technically not supposed to be here, but still consume resources and utilize services. Or maybe it’s just because there is a right way and a wrong way to do things…

So, I guess, go ahead and rent that place in Paris. But don’t complain when you overstay your welcome and they kick you out…

 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Your #13 sounds like another version of the Great Society, all over again.

penguin2 (Diary) Tuesday, September 1st at 11:13AM EST (link)

“Strengthen home ownership”-wasn’t that Fannie and Freddie? “Government backed car loans” what’s the government doing helping anybody buying a car?
“directly address poverty in America by examining the costs afflicting the poor”- again a government intervention.

Whenever I see the word “diversity” I see a warning sign. Your proposal has government written all over it. “low prices (drugs) in other countries” happens because the governments are subsidizing big time. That’s why Americans are getting their drugs from Canada, but that government is paying the difference, out of the Canadian people’s pockets. Also, R&D is costly. The companies have a right to get a return on their work.

And when you say “preventing unnecessary procedures” that is in who’s definition of unnecessary. If it is your own or your family’s health involved, one may want a battery of tests. I understand doctors and their practice of defensive medicine, due to legal issues; but lets turn that around and think about it as being on the offense for an individual’s health.

On #6 Immigration issues. Over and over again, we end up granting amnesty to illegal aliens. There are many who are seeking legal immigration to this country and obeying the laws and route to citizenship. We already have guest worker visas. As far as letting in “hard working individuals” well if they want to come legally, fine. Reinforcement of bad behavior (illegal) does not ever change the bad behavior. It only promotes it and perpetuates same.

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I agree

aesthete (Diary) Tuesday, September 1st at 11:52AM EST (link)

Yeah, I’m not to big on the federal government getting into healthcare, except in making insurance an interstate thing and establishing tort reform and “loser pays”.

Personally, as long as we have secure borders (i.e, the oft-promised and, as of yet, undelivered wall and more border security agents) and enforce visa expiration dates, I don’t have a problem with legalizing those illegal immigrants who have already lived in the US for an extended period of time (depending on whether they’ve committed violent crimes and other circumstances, of course). That way, leniency towards current illegals would be one instance, rather than a habitual occurrence.

The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice – G.K. Chesterton

You're right aesthete, "if we would secure our borders",

penguin2 (Diary) Tuesday, September 1st at 12:15PM EST (link)

and bolster our security agents” (whatever they need), then we could stem the tide of illegal numbers coming in. Like you said, I would want to see the illegals who have committed crimes deported. Leniency is a reasonable concept, and I have a soft heart on that issue.

The only thing that worries me–that’s exactly what happened approx. 20yrs. ago when Ronald Reagan was president. I think 20million illegal aliens were granted amnesty and two decades later we’re in the same boat.

The government has got to stop paying lip service and a wink and a nod.

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Even my MRSA program

john_ashman (Diary) Tuesday, September 1st at 12:53PM EST (link)

is unconstitutional. Forcing people to save rather than spend as they wish. OTOH, it can’t be done at the state level because the government has the only taxation big enough that can allow someone to deduct their MRSA contribution. So, in order to make health care a reality at the state level, the Feds will have to give up their stranglehold on government spending.

But it is better than the alternative. And therein lies the problem. Do we try to fight for states rights and lower federal taxation first with the “unconstitutional” saw. Or do we try to come up with bills that are conservative in spirit and still bend/break the constitution (as does pretty much everything).

As for immigration, the guest worker program is certain a way to go. Many Mexicans can’t afford to raise a family here, but they need to have a job. They often invent jobs. Many would come by my place and help around the yard, take things to the dump for me. Things I couldn’t normally afford to pay a company to do so would have to do myself. The $50 they could make for a half day of work was 10 times what they could make in Mexico for a full day. It’s a win-win.

One of the slogans for the anti-immigration movement is that they use up so much government resources. Who’s fault is that? As a spanish speaker, I can tell you that the government *advertises* its free services on spanish speaking radio. But if you come here *legally* the government prohibits you from using the same free services they willingly provide to legal immigrants.

The problem is not immigration, it’s the government handling of it. Aside from its desire to tax anything that moves or doesn’t move.

The government has to "tax anything that moves or doesn't move"

penguin2 (Diary) Tuesday, September 1st at 1:15PM EST (link)

in order to pay for all of it’s social programs. That’s what happens when it is big government.
Here’s a thought on your “immigration”-though they are illegal immigrants. If the Democrats hadn’t instituted the Great Society of L.B.Johnson, and we had cultivated generations of people willing to work, no matter how hard or long, they would be quite happy to do the work you say Americans won’t do and that’s why we have to “have the Mexicans” do it. In fact, the illegal immigrants are the demonstrating the very work ethic that Americans USED to have. Or at least a majority of them, before the government decided to come along and make it all better and actually encouraged an attitude ” I can’t and I don’t want to.”

When I was a little girl, I shoveled snow so my father could have a few cents extra for bus fare (we lived in NYC) and in the winter time, construction jobs are scarce. But my father, worked two jobs and did not get help from the government. He had pride and wanted to work. If less government checks were cut for people today, people would find their pride again and seek to work, all work is honorable. My father taught me that. And something else, IMO, there are still plenty (maybe not enough) of us who would shovel snow if we needed to.

Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. – Benjamin Franklin
When Good stands up to Evil, Evil blinks. – Vassar Bushmills

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I think....

john_ashman (Diary) Tuesday, September 1st at 12:59PM EST (link)

We can strengthen home ownership without doing stupid thing, such as making bad loans. Sadly, a lot of people that COULD have afforded their homes lost their jobs and now can’t. IRONICALLY, they have tens or even hundreds of $thousands that they’ve paid into SS and Medicare and other government “general welfare” projects and can’t have their money now when they need it most. Would not a simple patch be to allow those that need money dip into their SS accounts, the ones that were ‘protected in a lockbox’?

Diversity is a nice word. It’s like the Clean Skies Act. Nothing is ever named for what it is.

On immigration, we keep creating jobs in the US that Americans don’t want. We keep doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. We need total immigration reform, not just a border fence. Amnesty is not reform. It’s a temporary patch for having broken laws.

 
 

It's becoming clearer we're reading here a "Contract ON America"

civil truth (Diary) Tuesday, September 1st at 1:00PM EST (link)

I’m not sure I’ve seen this phenemon before, but you sure sound like you want to be a “statist libertarian”.

That is, you seem enamored of using the state to enforce your perceived individual rights and your preferences, but denouncing those who don’t agree with legalizing your pet “liberties” as oppressors.

I see expansion of federal pwers from your “Contract” – not any “chop from the top” actions that will reduce bureaucracy and the scope of federal spheres (except possibly #7).

Really, you’re just a moralist in disguise, with no logic to your code that you want the state to enforce except for your individual preference.

Or you’re a leftist try to dress in drag as a libertarian.

The greatest evil…is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clean, carpeted, warmed, and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voice. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the offices of a thoroughly nasty business concern. -C.S. Lewis

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