Comments on: Health Care Bill Fact of the Day: Providing Businesses With an Incentive to End Employer-Sponsored Health Insurance http://www.redstate.com/jeff_emanuel/2009/08/11/health-care-bill-fact-of-the-day-providing-businesses-with-an-incentive-to-end-employer-sponsored-health-insurance/ Fri, 17 Feb 2012 03:28:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: whoframedrudy http://www.redstate.com/jeff_emanuel/2009/08/11/health-care-bill-fact-of-the-day-providing-businesses-with-an-incentive-to-end-employer-sponsored-health-insurance/#comment-6900 whoframedrudy Wed, 26 Aug 2009 06:03:21 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/jeff_emanuel/?p=1101#comment-6900 Currently, an employer that does not provide health benefits is at a competitive disadvantage in the labor market. Not so under Obamacare. So yes, with a public option and this negligible fine, the 'private option' will wither on the vine of profit maximization. In the private sector, this would be called 'predatory pricing.' It's perverse: using capitalism to transition into socialism. Currently, an employer that does not provide health benefits is at a competitive disadvantage in the labor market. Not so under Obamacare. So yes, with a public option and this negligible fine, the ‘private option’ will wither on the vine of profit maximization. In the private sector, this would be called ‘predatory pricing.’

It’s perverse: using capitalism to transition into socialism.

]]> By: get2djnow http://www.redstate.com/jeff_emanuel/2009/08/11/health-care-bill-fact-of-the-day-providing-businesses-with-an-incentive-to-end-employer-sponsored-health-insurance/#comment-6812 get2djnow Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:57:22 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/jeff_emanuel/?p=1101#comment-6812 The union bosses will increase union dues by 5k. Then the unions will use the money to prop up their corrupt athletic supporters in local, state and federal government. Still, they will be able to tell their mouth-breathers that brought home the bacon. Oh, the bosses will also be able to afford new union jets. The union bosses will increase union dues by 5k. Then the unions will use the money to prop up their corrupt athletic supporters in local, state and federal government. Still, they will be able to tell their mouth-breathers that brought home the bacon.

Oh, the bosses will also be able to afford new union jets.

]]> By: Jeff Emanuel http://www.redstate.com/jeff_emanuel/2009/08/11/health-care-bill-fact-of-the-day-providing-businesses-with-an-incentive-to-end-employer-sponsored-health-insurance/#comment-6759 Jeff Emanuel Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:00:20 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/jeff_emanuel/?p=1101#comment-6759 Few understand that benefits like health care aren't paid for by the employer, but come out of overall compensation in lieu of wages. The fact that few workers know this means employers who cut off health care can keep that savings, because workers don't know enough to demand that cash be added to their paychecks. Education is needed in this area. Few understand that benefits like health care aren’t paid for by the employer, but come out of overall compensation in lieu of wages. The fact that few workers know this means employers who cut off health care can keep that savings, because workers don’t know enough to demand that cash be added to their paychecks.

Education is needed in this area.

]]> By: DerKrieger http://www.redstate.com/jeff_emanuel/2009/08/11/health-care-bill-fact-of-the-day-providing-businesses-with-an-incentive-to-end-employer-sponsored-health-insurance/#comment-6757 DerKrieger Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:46:23 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/jeff_emanuel/?p=1101#comment-6757 ...health care. But only if it means my employer pays me the cash value of my insurance coverage as additional salary and then asks me to go buy my own insurance. I wish businesses would fight back on this even a little instead of looking at this as an easy way to offload their health care expenses. They can offload them and still nurture free market solutions like high deductible, low premium plans with HSAs. I have one and I love it. …health care.

But only if it means my employer pays me the cash value of my insurance coverage as additional salary and then asks me to go buy my own insurance.

I wish businesses would fight back on this even a little instead of looking at this as an easy way to offload their health care expenses.

They can offload them and still nurture free market solutions like high deductible, low premium plans with HSAs. I have one and I love it.

]]> By: izoneguy http://www.redstate.com/jeff_emanuel/2009/08/11/health-care-bill-fact-of-the-day-providing-businesses-with-an-incentive-to-end-employer-sponsored-health-insurance/#comment-6756 izoneguy Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:30:01 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/jeff_emanuel/?p=1101#comment-6756 Obamacare would create a huge bureaucracy that would be staffed with SEIU members (most government workers are SEIU members). SEIU would collect a windfall in new union dues which would be fed back into Democrat politician’s campaign coffers. It is about a permanent funding mechanism for the Democrat party. Look at this info from Open Secrets.... These dems have raked in the most cash from union contributions. Hoyer tops the list with $3,596,358 Edward Kennedy is 2nd with $2,741,591 Pelosi is 3rd with $2,737,550 Unions Lobby to Thwart Health Care Deal Breaker http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2009/07/unions-lobby-to-thwart-health.html Download a list of contributions from labor PACs to all current members of Congress (including to their candidate committees and leadership PACs) since 1989 here: http://www.opensecrets.org/news/LaborPAC_Contribs.xls If you use this info give credit: http://www.opensecrets.org/MyOS/credit.php Just counter Pelosi and Hoyer un-American accusations with these facts. National Health Care is a Union Trojan Horse..... Obamacare would create a huge bureaucracy that would be staffed with SEIU members (most government workers are SEIU members). SEIU would collect a windfall in new union dues which would be fed back into Democrat politician’s campaign coffers.

It is about a permanent funding mechanism for the Democrat party.

Look at this info from Open Secrets….

These dems have raked in the most cash from union contributions.

Hoyer tops the list with $3,596,358
Edward Kennedy is 2nd with $2,741,591
Pelosi is 3rd with $2,737,550

Unions Lobby to Thwart Health Care Deal Breaker

http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2009/07/unions-lobby-to-thwart-health.html

Download a list of contributions from labor PACs to all current members of Congress (including to their candidate committees and leadership PACs) since 1989 here:

http://www.opensecrets.org/news/LaborPAC_Contribs.xls

If you use this info give credit:
http://www.opensecrets.org/MyOS/credit.php

Just counter Pelosi and Hoyer un-American accusations with these facts. National Health Care is a Union Trojan Horse…..

]]> By: itdiehard http://www.redstate.com/jeff_emanuel/2009/08/11/health-care-bill-fact-of-the-day-providing-businesses-with-an-incentive-to-end-employer-sponsored-health-insurance/#comment-6754 itdiehard Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:23:49 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/jeff_emanuel/?p=1101#comment-6754 Unions will use this savings to boast wages by 6G per worker... Unions will use this savings to boast wages by 6G per worker…

]]> By: get2djnow http://www.redstate.com/jeff_emanuel/2009/08/11/health-care-bill-fact-of-the-day-providing-businesses-with-an-incentive-to-end-employer-sponsored-health-insurance/#comment-6753 get2djnow Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:17:04 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/jeff_emanuel/?p=1101#comment-6753 that the public option would never cause people to lose their insurance, if they like what they have now. /sarc An employer would have to be nuts to throw money into an insurance policy for his employees when the gov't is willing to do all the work of covering employees' medical needs for a measly $750. Not only that but no more open enrollment hassles and no more annual increases in employee copays. For the employers it's all upside. that the public option would never cause people to lose their insurance, if they like what they have now. /sarc

An employer would have to be nuts to throw money into an insurance policy for his employees when the gov’t is willing to do all the work of covering employees’ medical needs for a measly $750. Not only that but no more open enrollment hassles and no more annual increases in employee copays. For the employers it’s all upside.

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