As I understand it, employers have the “choice” of elmiinating thier health insurance and paying a fine that’s actually lower than most employer portions of most current health care plans. Which,of course, means that employer provided health care will probably go the way of the passenger pigeon. At that point, even if YOU didn’t change plans, are you made a permanent benficiary of government lagresse?

Just like, if I push you out a window, and you die, I did not kill you. I can not be held responsible for the action of gravity.

Section 102.a of HR 3200 only forbids new “Individual Health Plans” to be sold outside of the Health Insurance Exchange, not new group plans. This is bad enough as it is.

Sometimes I hate this era. The doublespeak word “option” in the freaking title. TAKE THE WORD OUT, Dimocrats. You know that there is no intention to give any one of us serbs any “option.”

I have a copy of the health care bill on my computer and I’ve been trying to read a little bit every day. While what this article says is partially true it’s not entirely true. According to the copy of the bill I have, you can only “keep” your insurance for 5 years. After the 5 year “grace” period, all plans have to meet the requirements determined by the federal government. So even if you like the insurance you have now, after that 5 year grace period, it will have to change or you won’t be able to keep it. And once it changes, it may not be the health care plan you wanted to keep. (See page 17, Section 202)

Jeff, when you post these, can you provide link or at least numbers of the specific sections of the bill that deal with whatever your facts are? That would be helpful ammunition.

Thanks!

- Jon

A salient quote from the Detroit Free Press website:

“Dingell told the crowd — many of whom wouldn’t believe it — that the bill won’t pay for abortions.

“The government wants to control my body, my health care decisions and the doctors I see,” said Christine Wofford, 56, of Canton, who distributed literature from the Liberty Council, a Lynchburg, Va., religious civil rights law firm.”

Also:

“Earlier in the day, several hundred people gathered outside the Troy office of U.S. Rep. Gary Peters, D-Bloomfield Hills, to protest abortion, socialism and Obama’s health care proposal. They criticized Peters’ unwillingness to hold a town hall.

“He believes that speaking with constituents one-on-one is the most useful way to meet with constituents,” said Cullen Schwarz, Peters’ spokesman. “The last one was supposed to last only 90 minutes and he stayed for three hours and 45 minutes so he could talk to everyone who showed up.”

John Rhen, 68, of Troy wasn’t buying it.

“They’re going to take over everything. It’s socialism,” he said. “I don’t want some bureaucrat making health decisions for me and my family.”

About 20 people who support the health care reform plan mingled with the protesters trying to get their point across as well.”

See:

http://www.freep.com/article/20090807/NEWS06/908070387/Tempers-flare-over-health-care

And it’s really worse than that, since the cost that is levied on businesses who dump their plans (pay or pay) is a paltry sum, then, it can be assumed that most business will dump their plans and push you onto Obamacare.

BUT WAIT! It gets better, since unionized businesses who have work contracts cannot just dump their coverages, they will be at an even bigger cost disadvantage to other labor.

So the idiot unions are once again cutting their own throats.