“Cam Sham”: Obama’s Photo Op with Cheering, Camera Wielding Troops 100% Staged


Isn’t it just a pain in the neck when there’s an alternative media that prevents strict message control by a staged-photo-op of an administration and its willing mouthpieces in the MSM?

President Obama stands awkwardly in front of hand-selected US troopsIt’s painless for us, of course; rather, that pain is being felt in the necks of those who want to insist that a bow to a Saudi king isn’t a bow, that an omnibus spending bill with 9,000 earmarks is the beginning of earmark and fiscal reform, that indecisively waiting four days while an American ship’s Captain is held hostage on a rubber raft by four Somali pirates (before being bailed out by swift action by the hostage and a SEAL team) is bold, new leadership — and that a staged event with Obama voters only and a bunch of cameras handed out as props is a real sign of soldiers’ devotion to the new, inexperienced, non-military-friendly Commander in Chief of the United States Armed Forces.

That’s right: courtesy of our friend Dave Hinz at The Minority Report comes the true story of a staged photo-op between a president who cares only about controlled and contrived appearances, and the component of a deployed military that was hand-selected to give him the contrived appearance he and his handlers desired.

Hinz writes:

[T]hat wonderful cheering welcome that President Obama received with his unscheduled surprise visit to the troops in Iraq, was entirely a staged event.

The troops were interrogated beforehand, with those military members who had voted for President Obama given identical digital cameras and placed in front of the media cameras covering the event.

The photo is below.

According to Flopping Aces:

A sergeant who was there explained the subterfuge. “We were pre-screened, asked by officials ‘Who voted for Obama?’, and then those who raised their hands were shuffled to the front of the receiving line. They even handed out digital cameras and asked them to hold them up.”

What a wonderfully awesome idea — if, that is, you’re so scared you won’t get a warm reception from a military whose efforts you have spent your entire political career dissing and diminishing.

From what we’ve seen so far of Obama, he’s nothing if not 100% controlled and contrived; from the marketing campaign that cast him as a blank canvas and got him elected, to the Binky he has to take to every public appearance lest he look like an off-script fool, to this Iraq photo op, his track record bears this out entirely.

Hinz raises another good point about that staged photo op: the media coverage of the event:

[P]olitical operatives from the Administration orchestrate a faux-cheering crowd of adoring military, right in front of the media covering the event, and that media reports?

From the AP:

Quote:

WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama went for the defining television shot by capping his first extended foreign tour with a surprise visit to Iraq.

He got it – pictures of hundreds of U.S. troops cheering wildly as he told them it was time for the Iraqis to take charge of their own future.

The war-zone photo opportunity produced a stunning show of appreciation for Obama from military men and women who have made great sacrifices, many serving repeated tours in a highly unpopular war.

So, the professional journalists [stop laughing -- I'm serious here] assigned to report the news of the President’s visit, saw cheering throngs of adoring troops, but failed to note the screening process that made the Kodak Moment possible.

How surprising is that? A mainstream media that gives Obama standing ovations after speeches simply assumed that this staged event was real, because it fit right in line with their own views of Obama and of the sentiment they believe he engenders. All they had to do was open their eyes — but they couldn’t even bring themselves to do that.

If this story does break into the MSM, look for it to be compared (favorably) to the shots of former POTUS George W. Bush holding up what lefty bloggers jumped all over as a “plastic turkey” — despite the fact that the soldier sentiment in those shots was real, and the story of the fake turkey a false one that engendered a retraction from the New York Times, if not from the reality-is-what-we-say-it-is lefty blogs.


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Great report. Thank you

redneck_hippie (Diary) Sunday, April 12th at 5:18PM EST (link)

David and Jeff for clearing this up. It is a shameful episode in a shameful career of lies and deceipt.


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This is looking like Pravda more and more

civil truth (Diary) Sunday, April 12th at 5:23PM EST (link)

…even worse in that Pravda was overtly run by the government. People knew who was behind the “news”

In the U.S. we’re supposed to have an independent media – if the media volunarily choose to become secret propaganda organs and mouthpieces of the administration (and rely on their history of independence to cover this up and provide their propaganda with a veneer of truth) then we are in grave peril.

We will find ourselves under tyranny as the Communist take-over gamebook is allowed to be uitlized without challenge and/or the people will awaken to the sham and lose confidence in all media – complicit and not – which will destroy any national conversation. Either way, our ability to function as a democracy is lost because there wil no trust remaining in anything that is spoken.

The greatest evil…is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clean, carpeted, warmed, and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voice. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the offices of a thoroughly nasty business concern. -C.S. Lewis

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Well, just had to post it again for those that may have missed it.

Michael DeWeese (Diary) Sunday, April 12th at 5:31PM EST (link)

I knew it, I knew it!

TNJim (Diary) Sunday, April 12th at 5:37PM EST (link)

I just knew something about that smelled when I first saw it. I thought, “Well, that’s the military for you, show support to the CinC no matter what they individually might think of him personally.”

Thanks from me, too, Jeff and David for clearing that up.

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Staged Love

SoFiMil (Diary) Sunday, April 12th at 7:35PM EST (link)

I’m furious. The military should never be solicited for or offer their political opinions. Weren’t the Democrats just recently in an photo-op uproar over the unfounded accusation that Bush “politicized” the Justice Department?

When I first saw the clip of the unnamed young woman in the military yell out: “I love you!” to President Obama the other day, I immediately found it odd, inappropriate, unprofessional, immature, teeny-bopperish — and now I suspect staged.

I also thought: “This woman is going to be in big trouble when she gets back to the barracks (or should be).” If this administration is going to stage-manage Dear Leader’s appearances, I think we can now assume that anyone who didn’t yell “I love you” — doesn’t.

…Or on worse thought, any military member who didn’t yell out “I love you” to President Obama will be the ones who are in trouble.

Yes, Republicans will yell out “I love you!” to President Bush, but that’s at a rally or a rally-type setting. Dizzy troops never giddily screamed out: “I love you!” to President Bush like they were at a rock concert. The Marines aren’t into this Beatles fainting kissy-kissy “I love you” stuff. It was and still is: “Ooh-rah!” Obama hasn’t earned that term of endearment.

The military surely stated their sentiment of love and devotion to Bush, but it was done in a solemn, heart-felt manner. Bush loved the military and the military loved him back.

We love Him, because He first loved us. (1 John 4:19)

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Remember when he went to Germany

Rapunzel46 Sunday, April 12th at 11:56PM EST (link)

before he was elected and wanted to take camera’s to the hospital and visit the troops as a photo op and the military told him he could go, but he could not use the troops in that manner…. well…. now he is getting his comeuppance on us all for that and other alleged slights.

Come to think of it

Raven (Diary) Monday, April 13th at 12:22PM EST (link)

His recent “Forgive us, Europe” tour didn’t stop by to visit the wounded soldiers “we have wronged so terribly” either.

Guess he still doesn’t care about them.

“If you do not have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.”
Luke 22:36

 
 
 
 

As a Former Army Public Affairs Officer

Barnee (Diary) Sunday, April 12th at 5:38PM EST (link)

you can not possibly image how this will hurt morale of our troops.

Barnee

 

I knew it!

deweyfromdetroit (Diary) Sunday, April 12th at 5:50PM EST (link)


I knew the advance team threw a kegger or something.
I just couldn’t prove it.

Thanks for the confirmation.

Also blogging as
DeweyfromDetroit

 

The Emperor truly has no clothes. nt

Steve Maley (Diary) Sunday, April 12th at 6:49PM EST (link)

The blogger formerly known as ‘Vladimir’.

But at least he has a deep & abiding respect for the role of the military...

Steve Maley (Diary) Sunday, April 12th at 7:24PM EST (link)

…as a PR tool.

The blogger formerly known as ‘Vladimir’.

The man has no deep and abiding respect

Praying (Diary) Sunday, April 12th at 11:13PM EST (link)

for anything but him self. He has done more damage to this country in 70 some days than any of us imagined possible. The arrogance and ego of the one is so nauseating, so demoralizing, and so … I don’t even have words bad enough to describe it. I love the emperor’s new clothes analogy – I’ve been using it for months now. The adoring slobbering media and the minions of R. Emanuel and D. Axelrod are so blind to what is behind the screen that it’s almost humorous. Almost.

No!!!11!1!!1!1! The Bilderbergers are coming

 
 
 

Wow, Jeff!

David Hinz (Diary) Sunday, April 12th at 6:55PM EST (link)

Once again Obama shows he's all style and no substance.

mtrisk Sunday, April 12th at 7:01PM EST (link)

A sham, a total sham.

 

OK, as a retired member of our Military, this is an embarrassment.

USNJIMRET (Diary) Sunday, April 12th at 7:13PM EST (link)

I had a few occasions to provide support for high level elected officials. From President Regan’s Iceland summit with Gorby, to Congress critters visiting overseas locals, I had some interaction with the posse that precedes their arrival. Particularly with the visit of Reagan to Iceland.
Local military was treated with little deference, the visit wasn’t usually for us anyway, but for photo op consumption back in “the world”.
Still, even when it was the very liberal Congress critter from Colorado visiting Adak, I never had to detail supporting troops with a ‘proved’ record of voting for the dignitary.
I can’t imagine how much those who participated in this scam are dealing with the fallout from the rest of the troops.
Nothing will piss off someone in the military faster then someone else taking advantage of a political ‘connection’.
That any of the troops played along with this is a disgrace and makes one wonder about just where their loyalties lay.

 

Thank You, Thank You, Thank You, For Reporting This!!

IJB Sunday, April 12th at 7:28PM EST (link)

This is a very important arrow in out quiver to puncture the MSM-directed lies about this guy.

This is a very, very important story that must be brought up at every given opportunity.

 

I'd feel better about this

Flagstaff (Diary) Sunday, April 12th at 7:33PM EST (link)

if the sergeant had a name. What was the point of handing out the digital cameras?

Not that I’d put it past him, but it’s just an unverified story at this point. I’d even accept the word of the original blogger, MacRanger on Macsmind.com, if he posted that he had vetted the story and the identity of its source.

“The press is so powerful in its image-making role that it can make a criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”– Malcolm X, Audubon Ballroom, December 13, 1964

Flagstaff,

Wayne (Diary) Sunday, April 12th at 7:58PM EST (link)

I hope that the sergeant’s name never, ever gets out. His career, if he truly wants one in the military, would be over. I read the post about the photo op and tongue bath over at Ace of Spades, and find no reason to disbelieve any of it.
In Obama’s military, one can’t be too careful.. As one of the posts at A of S stated, anyone see any rifles, as in combat troops? Nope, either the USSS screened the soldiers to keep any weapons out, or these weren’t combat troops. And, does anyone see ANY Marines in the pic? Thought not.

“Hell, these are Marines. Men like them held Guadalcanal, and took Iwo Jima, Baghdad ain’t s–t”. Maj. Gen. John F. Kelly, USMC, Deputy CG, First MEF

This will cause a dilemma for Obama

bk (Diary) Sunday, April 12th at 8:10PM EST (link)

Does he or does he not approve “enhance interrogation techniques” to be used on all the E-5′s in that area?

 

You'll notice I didn't call for the name to be published,

Flagstaff (Diary) Sunday, April 12th at 8:12PM EST (link)

just for the original blogger to live up to the journalistic standard required by the Right side, to vet the story and verify the source, and tell us that he has done so.

Otherwise, we might as well be listening to Dan Rather.

The Blogger has already surpassed the standards of the SCUM.

“The press is so powerful in its image-making role that it can make a criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”– Malcolm X, Audubon Ballroom, December 13, 1964

 
 
 

So Obama has raised the bar

bk (Diary) Sunday, April 12th at 8:07PM EST (link)

from arranging rocks planted on a beach to arranging Marines planted with cameras.

 

One or more questions...

DONTREADONME (Diary) Sunday, April 12th at 10:28PM EST (link)

can someone tell me if the camera’s I am seeing in the 2nd picture are in fact the same model of camera? Second, has this photograph been doctored in any shape or form? Lastly, are those camera’s on the GSA schedule? Thanks, If the answer to these questions yes, no, and no, then we definitly have something here. If not, we still have something here.

 

OK...here's ANOTHER story we need to talk about---how best to do it?

smagar (Diary) Sunday, April 12th at 10:28PM EST (link)

It worked for the bow to the Saudi king. Now, we need to get this into the mainstream as well.

How best to do that? Here are some ideas; please add your own:

1) Let’s see how Robert Gibbs handles this affair, when someone asks him about it in the WH Press Briefing.
2) Local bloggers can call the Public Affairs offices at their local bases, and ask if it’s accepted policy to manage VIP visits like this. I’ll bet that some will say “uh, no it isn’t.” Then blog about it.
3) I’ll bet the Bush White House didn’t do this…let’s ask them.
4) Let’s compare this with the “Mission Accomplished” banner on the Abraham Lincoln. I’ll bet that the “Known Facts” about that PR kerfluffle won’t look so shocking when compared to what Team Obama did.

Your thoughts?

“Who will stand/On either hand/And guard this bridge with me?” (Macaulay)

 

I'm going to have to call BS.

CrabCakes (Diary) Sunday, April 12th at 10:28PM EST (link)

This story boils down to: Jeff says that Hinz says that Flopping Aces says that Macsmind says that he got an email from a sergeant that says:

“We were pre-screened, asked by officials “Who voted for Obama?”, and then those who raised their hands were shuffled to the front of the receiving line. They even handed out digital cameras and asked them to hold them up.

Take a look at the picture at AP and notice all the cameras are the same models? Coincidence? I think not.”

A quick look at the picture refutes the one refutable claim in the alleged email–the cameras are not all the same model. The camera hanging from the white guy’s wrist is clearly thinner than the camera being passed over the shoulder of the woman closer to the camera, and the camera that is being used right next to the same white guy’s face seems to be thicker than the white guy’s but thinner than the one being passed.

Maybe Macsmind did get an email, maybe he didn’t; maybe it was from a sergeant who was there, maybe it wasn’t; maybe the person claiming to be a sergeant was telling the truth, maybe he wasn’t. It takes quite a degree of gullibility to swallow the argument that this does indeed come from a reliable source when his central piece of evidence is blatantly false.

You know, some American soldiers DO own their own digital cameras.

smagar (Diary) Sunday, April 12th at 10:33PM EST (link)

If I was an Obama supporter—and there are plenty in the US military—and he was coming to speak to my command, I think I might bring my camera.

What really sticks out in my mind is:

a) Someone at the event singled out pro-Obama soldiers to put at the front of the picture.
b) They handed out at least some cameras as props. American flags, I could see. But cameras? That smacks of staging.

I know how to clear this up: Ask Robert Gibbs. Let him go on record with what the White House did and didn’t do to stage this event.

“Who will stand/On either hand/And guard this bridge with me?” (Macaulay)

So now the argument is "MAYBE they handed out SOME cameras,"

CrabCakes (Diary) Sunday, April 12th at 10:41PM EST (link)

and you want the press corps to ask Gibbs whether an alleged email sent to Macsmind and contains an easily refutable claim has some truth in the non-refutable part?

Don't be cute: you know what I want the press to ask Gibbs

smagar (Diary) Sunday, April 12th at 11:18PM EST (link)

“Did the event managers single out Obama voters to be brought to the front of the photo shot?”

“Did you hand out cameras? If so, why?”

If Gibbs says that Obama wanted soldiers without cameras to have a chance to get a picture of the POTUS visit, then the press should ask what instructions the soldiers were given on how to get their pictures. Were they, for example, given a chance to download the pictures to their personal laptops before they gave the cameras back. Will the White House be sending the soldiers the pictures? If so, how are they going to make sure that each soldier gets the picture he/she took?

If no one has answers to these questions, then it makes it more likely that those cameras were props.

Surely an inqusitive MSM—especially one that should be angry if it turns out the WH played them—can ask these questions, and many more.

If the e-mailer is full of it, have Gibbs say so and show proof. What’s so hard about that?

“Who will stand/On either hand/And guard this bridge with me?” (Macaulay)

It is as simple as that

Jack_Savage (Diary) Sunday, April 12th at 11:59PM EST (link)

And if the former referees who have donned Obama jerseys weren’t so far up his posterior, those two questions WOULD be asked.

SO, safe in the knowledge that they never will be asked, CrabCakes makes his bold claim of BS. And so it goes….

 

I'm not being cute; I think you miss my point.

CrabCakes (Diary) Monday, April 13th at 12:01AM EST (link)

The job of the press is to investigate and report, not to bring up an unsubstantiated rumor, based on an anonymous email composed of five sentences of which three are demonstrably false, in a press conference. If a reporter wants to investigate the allegations of this anonymous emailer, I say go for it. Bringing baseless charges into a press conference, however, gives the aura of respectability to an otherwise laughable claim.

An example from the other side:

During the 2008 election, Andrew Sullivan suspected that Sarah Palin’s youngest child was actually Bristol Palin’s. The press did not report this rumor or question Palin concerning it, because the claim was baseless and the way to treat a baseless claim is not to report it or to confront the person about whom the claim is made (unless of course the person making the claim is prominent enough for the mere fact that they made the claim to be news in and of itself, i.e. if Biden had questioned who Trig’s real mother was, that would be news, but for entirely different reasons). Rather, if a reporter desires to pursue a rumor, the proper course of action is to do enough research to substantiate it. The former is mudslinging, the latter is journalism.

It is unbelievable that you compare these two things

Jack_Savage (Diary) Monday, April 13th at 12:04AM EST (link)

Just simply unbelievable.

::Sigh:: Queue the faux-outrage...

CrabCakes (Diary) Monday, April 13th at 12:16AM EST (link)

It is very clear in my comment that I am not comparing the content of the two charges, but the manner in which they were made. It is also clear from my comment that I don’t in anyway consider Sullivan’s weird obsession with the Palins’ wombs and the accusations resulting therefrom to be in any way credible.

If you can think of a better example of the press not simply latching on to an internet rumor, feel free to insert one that won’t offend your delicate sensibilities.

The point, since you seem to have missed it, is:

Sullivan is a known reporter who (for whatever reason) is respected in some circles and regularly makes his way onto cable news channels. He made an allegation on the internet, and the press did the right thing and reported it.

Now you want the press to ask Gibbs whether Obama staged his Iraq visit based on an anonymous email posted on a blog.

I say they were right before, and they’re right now. I don’t see how you can say the press should bring up one internet rumor in a press conference and not the other. (Unless you actually think that the press would have been within their bounds asking Palin whether Trig was really her baby based upon Sullivan’s allegations.)

Please spare me your clucking tongue

Jack_Savage (Diary) Monday, April 13th at 12:27AM EST (link)

If you weren’t making a comparison between the two, I find it unusual that they both appear in the same post. You intentionally conflated the content of the assertions with the manner in which they were made in order to make the seargant’s appear more specious. Nice try, sorry it did not work out for you.

Here is the bottom line – there is a credible report from someone who was actually there that those attending were sorted out based on their affection for Obama. It fits what has happened previously. Since you lefties have spelled out the rules of engagement quite clearly, the reporter need only to preface his question with, “There have been allegations made that….”

Works well for me – I don’t see the problem you have with us using the template you prepared so carefully for the last eight years.

Can’t wait to use the old, “The seriousness of the charges warrant an investigation.” Ah, an oldie but a goodie!

 
 
 

And for what it is worth

Jack_Savage (Diary) Monday, April 13th at 12:08AM EST (link)

“Bringing baseless charges into a press conference, however, gives the aura of respectability to an otherwise laughable claim….”

Is exactly how the worthless, leftist journalists conduct business when a Republican is in the spotlight.

Feel free to provide a link,

CrabCakes (Diary) Monday, April 13th at 12:17AM EST (link)

unless KnownFacts are acceptable as long as they support the Right.

That is the most laughable request I have ever read on RedState

Jack_Savage (Diary) Monday, April 13th at 12:31AM EST (link)

I would give you a do-over, but comments can’t be edited, so you are out of luck.

Good night. I needed a chuckle.

 
 
 

That a good clarification of journalistic ethics, CrabCakes

civil truth (Diary) Monday, April 13th at 12:16AM EST (link)

And your principles appear sound to me. The short version is: extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

I would agree that the story at this point is too muddled to justify a press conference inquiry. The basic elements of the charge (stage managing) are plausible based on past adminstration behavior, but a reliable account of the event has not yet been established. And until we have a reliable account, there’s no where to go with this.

I’ll await further clarification before joining the posse.

The greatest evil…is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clean, carpeted, warmed, and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voice. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the offices of a thoroughly nasty business concern. -C.S. Lewis

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OK---I'll meet you halfway

smagar (Diary) Monday, April 13th at 12:29AM EST (link)

If a reporter wants to investigate the allegations of this anonymous emailer, I say go for it.

That sounds fair. I’ve no problem with not bringing this up to Gibbs, until a reporter has investigated it. If it turns out to be baseless, OK

Now, I kinda doubt that Helen Thomas ever extended the same consideration to the Bush 43 WH…but I think I get your point. We should take the high road.

OK with me.

What’s NOT OK with me, and shouldn’t be OK with us, is the MSM choosing to NOT go down that high road, because they fear finding info that will damage Obama’s reputation.

IMO there’s enough evidence here to warrant some MSM follow-up.

We shall see.

“Who will stand/On either hand/And guard this bridge with me?” (Macaulay)

 
 
 
 
 

so

Caleb Howe (Diary) Monday, April 13th at 12:50AM EST (link)

Who are you trying to call a liar?

Think. THEN answer. Not a request.

Caleb Howe (formerly known as absentee)

I'm not trying to call anyone a liar; I thought that was pretty clear from my comment.

CrabCakes (Diary) Monday, April 13th at 1:04AM EST (link)

In case you didn’t make to it the end, here’s a direct quote:

“Maybe Macsmind did get an email, maybe he didn’t; maybe it was from a sergeant who was there, maybe it wasn’t; maybe the person claiming to be a sergeant was telling the truth, maybe he wasn’t.”

I don’t have enough information about how the demonstrably false claim. “Take a look at the picture at AP and notice all the cameras are the same models? Coincidence? I think not,” came about to go about pointing fingers and calling people liars.

As I stated above: the claim is false, I don’t know where the falsehood crept in, and it doesn’t matter all that much to me how it came about.

so then

Caleb Howe (Diary) Monday, April 13th at 1:07AM EST (link)

You say the story is false? The one Jeff, front page contributor, posted?

Caleb Howe (formerly known as absentee)

Do I really need to break it down into tiny bites?

CrabCakes (Diary) Monday, April 13th at 1:25AM EST (link)

Jeff, front page contributor, says that Hinz says that Hinz says that Flopping Aces says that Macsmind says that he got an email from a sergeant that says he got an email from a sergeant.

Jeff is right that Hinz says that Flopping Aces says that Macsmind says that he got an email from a sergeant.

Hinz is right that Flopping Aces says that Macsmind says that he got an email from a sergeant.

Flopping Aces is right that Macsmind says that he got an email from a sergeant.

I established all this using my finely honed research skills of clicking through links.

However, since I also used my finely honed research skills of looking at pictures and discovered that the email that Macsmind says he got from a sergeant claims something that my own eyes shows to be demonstrably false, I don’t believe the claims contained in Macsmind’s story to be true.

That can either be due to Macsmind making up the story that he got an email or to the person sending the email making a false claim.

If Macsmind did get an email from a person claiming to be a sergeant, then his story is true too, insofar as his story is that he got an email claiming X, Y, and Z. In that case, the email sender’s story would be the false one.

If Macsmind didn’t actually receive an email, his is the false one.

I don’t have enough information to determine which of these two options is the correct one. Hence (for the third time) my conclusion:

“Maybe Macsmind did get an email, maybe he didn’t; maybe it was from a sergeant who was there, maybe it wasn’t; maybe the person claiming to be a sergeant was telling the truth, maybe he wasn’t.”

demonstrably false?

Caleb Howe (Diary) Monday, April 13th at 1:41AM EST (link)

Try demonstrably arguing in bad faith. I’m banning you. complain to the management. Buh bye.

Caleb Howe (formerly known as absentee)

If only lefties like Crabby had been this skeptical

peg_c (Diary) Monday, April 13th at 7:14AM EST (link)

about ANYTHING about Obama, before the election. The way they bend over backwards on this just makes me laugh.

I seem to remember photo ops with John Kerry and our troops in the ME had to be staged also. No one in the military wanted to be seen with him. I cannot believe many want to be seen with Obama, as full of fear and loathing for them as he is.

The left can keep pushing this shovel-ready cr@p at us. We’ve stopped believing any of it when it comes to this administration of amateurs.

Government cannot be the solution when government is the problem.

 
 
 
 
 
 

After seeing this

Rapunzel46 Monday, April 13th at 12:53AM EST (link)

http://images.logicsix.com/DHS_RWE.pdf

tonight, I’ll believe just about anything about this administration.

 

Important notice to clear up any possible misunderstanding:

CrabCakes (Diary) Monday, April 13th at 11:30AM EST (link)

My comments above soley address the accuracy of the email allegedly received by Macsmind. Nothing above should be taken as disrespect toward the honesty or intelligence of Jeff or any other RedState contributor.

As this is one of the busiest semesters of my academic career, I rarely have the time to comment as much as I would like. My tight schedule has limited me to being able to comment only when I feel like I have something truly worthwhile to contribute, and usually such contributions come in the form of disagreement. Those cases in which I express my disagreement should be read in the context of the many, many posts by Jeff and the other contributors upon which I do not comment but read with interest and find informative and thought-provoking, despite the fact that my political leanings are contrary to most of the good folks here.

Once again, I apologize for any misunderstanding. I have given my two cents above, and, both due to my busy afternoon and my desire not to perpetuate any other misunderstandings, I will not be commenting any more on this thread.

No they don't

Jack_Savage (Diary) Monday, April 13th at 12:16PM EST (link)

“My comments above soley address the accuracy of the email allegedly received by Macsmind.”

No they don’t. Your comments above are meant to try and cover for an incompetent / hero worshipping press corp and to further disparage anyone who would actually point out that the military might not engage in the hero worship you do.

The fact that you have an academic career goes a long, long way to explaining things.

 

Color us unimpressed, CrabCakes

smagar (Diary) Monday, April 13th at 1:06PM EST (link)

Ci vediamo

“Who will stand/On either hand/And guard this bridge with me?” (Macaulay)

 
 

So, I'm confused -- your entire call of "BS" is based on one (possibly) different camera in a crowd of dozens?

randy streu (Diary) Monday, April 13th at 11:43AM EST (link)

Most of the cameras in the photo are, indeed identical. There is ONE that looks like it may be thicker. A claim which, in reality, could go either way. There is a flash reflecting off the top of that camera — the part which makes it appear thicker. The apparent thickness, then, could be actual, or it could be an artifact of the flash bouncing off the silver. I suppose, with some enhancements, we may be able to tell which is which, but for now, it could be either.

Not that it matters. Look again at the rest of the cameras. The same width and everything. And again, you’re basing your ENTIRE argument on a single camera among dozens. That’s just… dumb.

I respectfully disagree...

ModerateIN Tuesday, April 14th at 4:27PM EST (link)

http://www.whitehouse.gov/assets/slideshows/896×504/baghdad06_cameras.JPG

http://www.whitehouse.gov/assets/slideshows/896×504/baghdad07_bump.JPG

Same location, different angles. Looks like a few different models in these pictures.

Is it still possible that there was pre-screening? Absolutely. Just because cameras weren’t passed out, doesn’t mean Obama voters weren’t moved to the front. I was not there, therefore I cannot speak with 100% certainty. But part of the rumor was that the cameras were identical.

 
 
 

Gym Photo

Dencal26 Sunday, April 12th at 10:36PM EST (link)

In the gym photo I counted 20 members of the service. Of the 20 I count 13 African Americans. Of course this was a handpicked group..

You know, I noticed that too...

DONTREADONME (Diary) Sunday, April 12th at 10:43PM EST (link)

but I am afraid to tackle anything that can be used against me in a hate crimes suit when those laws come to be in the next four years. I did notice a disproportionate number of our american brothers in arms than our white american brothers. Our military must be full of racists that is it. I think snark belongs after that last statement.

Disclaimer: Anyway, I have never nor have I ever been a racist, bigot, sexist or homophobe. I have just made an observation… Do you know if Bush was there and there were no american military members of the african decent it would obviously be taken the other way around.

Isn't that what Rangle

Rapunzel46 Monday, April 13th at 12:54AM EST (link)

has wanted everyone to believe all along, that only poor blacks are in our military?????

 
 

There is plenty of support for Obama in the military

smagar (Diary) Sunday, April 12th at 11:22PM EST (link)

Maybe not a majority, but certainly not an insignificant percentage, either.

IMO, the real question is whether the WH singled out Obama supporters for the photo shoot and then handed them props.

Imagine if Bush’s White House staff had singled out soldiers who voted for him in 2004 and brought them to the front of the crowd during one of his visits to the troops. Something tells me the media would have worn out its jaws talking about that.

“Who will stand/On either hand/And guard this bridge with me?” (Macaulay)

I'd Put The Military Number at About 30%

IJB Sunday, April 12th at 11:42PM EST (link)

Based on polling I’ve seen on sort of partisan questions, or the support level for GWB, etc. the numbers in the military seem to be about 65-70% R or R-leaning, and about 30-35% D or D-leaning.

IOW, the military is probably about 2-to-1 R-leaning.

It doesn’t take a rocket scientist why Obama wants to knee-cap the military – it’s probably about 2-to-1 opposed to him and his policies, and if you’re a Patronage Party, you simply cannot keep funding via gov’t revenues a entity that is so institutionally hostile to you.

Better to pump than money into ACORN and trial lawyers, and such.

It’s a purely political matter, you see – I’m sure all Americans will “understand”…

 
 
 

That Gym Photo...

UncommonRight Monday, April 13th at 12:57AM EST (link)

…is one of the oddest pictures I have ever seen. It’s like the folks in the background could not get to close to the king, for fear of making eye contact or something.

Seriously, that has to be the most awkward looking photo I have seen.

And who is the guy in jeans?

I do not choose to be a common man. It is my right to be uncommon. I seek opportunity to develop whatever talents God gave me–not security. I do not wish to be a kept citizen, humbled and dulled by having the state look after me. I want to take the calculated risk; to dream and to build, to fail and to succeed.

~Dean Alfange

Time To Keep Score

It looks like a photoshop to me

peg_c (Diary) Monday, April 13th at 7:18AM EST (link)

He almost seems to be in a different dimension from the troops.

And Obama has rarely looked more fake. The wider he smiles the faker he looks.

Government cannot be the solution when government is the problem.

On the other hand..

tex805 Tuesday, April 14th at 5:54PM EST (link)

1. There is an AP photo showing a number of different cameras in the hands of the miltary.

2. There can not be an infinite number of types of cameras there – the PX only sells a limited number.

3. The military voted significant majority for Obama.

Why is the right so angry?

 
 
 

Lying President + Socialism + Fascism + Controlled Citizen + MILITARY ==>> OBAMAIC DICTATORIAL GOVERNMENT.

Rod_Patrick (Diary) Monday, April 13th at 1:38AM EST (link)

So let Obama be Obama.

May the Age of Obama Regime be recorded as the Darkest Days of Infamy in the long History of American People!

FIGHT!!! JOIN THE TEA PARTY!!!!

 

Photo tells a diff story

I like to make crude sexual jokes. Monday, April 13th at 7:29PM EST (link)

One soldier in the middle as a camera with a lens in the middle of the camera. Another behind him has one with the lens to the left.

Besides if it was staged who cares? What Presidential event isn’t? Last i checked to can’t buy tickets to see the Prez at Ticketmaster.

What kills you is that military folks were proud of their President … their African American, Democratic President. Yeppers. The smiles where real. The cheers were real.

Hey no fair!!! No plastic turkeys!

Trolling, trolling, trolling, keep those lies a'rollin',

janis (Diary) Monday, April 13th at 7:34PM EST (link)

don’t try to understand us, just goad, poke and brand us, soon you will be booted high and wide……

Brought to you by those who love cowboys. Thank you.

 

it doesn't take your kind very long

David Hinz (Diary) Monday, April 13th at 7:36PM EST (link)

you come in and try very hard to sound sane — blend in with a couple of comments — but you just cannot help but out yourself.

Sad actually…what out educational system turns out these days

 

Oh ... our troll is a racist.

Martin Knight (Diary) Monday, April 13th at 7:54PM EST (link)

And for your information, the turkey wasn’t plastic. Two, President Bush’s visits to the troops were never staged.

How do you like them apples, racist?