The Definition of Insanity


Israel's High Court Gives Outgoing Prime Minister Go-Ahead to Continue Negotiating Away Security to Syria

On December 4, Israel’s supreme court ruled that outgoing Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and his Foreign Minister, Tzipi Livni, “may continue negotiating with Syria and the Palestinians over peace agreements” despite the caretaker, or lame duck, status of their administration.

The High Court of Justice’s ruling negated a petition filed by Limor Livnat, a Knesset member of the minority Likud party, claiming that the concessions being offered Syria and the Palestinian Authority in the name of peace by the Olmert government were both dangerous and legally illegitimate.

“We are dealing with processes whose implications could significantly affect the country for many years to come,” Livnat said in the petition. “Such negotiations must not be conducted by a resigning prime minister.”


Olmert Facing Corruption Charges

Olmert resigned his post in September amid multiple charges of corruption. Foreign Minister Livni, who succeeded Olmert as head of the ruling Kadima party but was unable to form a coalition government in time to prevent the calling of a special election to replace the outgoing prime minister, has called on Olmert to leave office immediately, ostensibly so that he can face the charges against him as a private citizen, rather than as a member of the Knesset.

Should Olmert end up leaving office before the Israeli public votes on his replacement in February, Livni would become acting prime minister, thus giving her the advantage of incumbency in the coming election (not to mention the power to take over conduct of the peace negotiations Olmert is currently engaged in, and with whose direction she appears to be in complete agreement).

With the high court’s ruling, Olmert’s terminal administration once again has free rein to continue his indirect negotiations with Syria and other enemies of Israel, offering concessions that will, as Livnat correctly said, “limit the maneuverability of the next prime minister” for the sake of Olmert’s “inappropriate bid to leave his mark on history.”

Unilateral Cessation of Territory

Olmert’s “inappropriate bid” includes an offer to unilaterally withdraw from the Golan Heights, a strategically important 450-square mile plateau between Israel proper and Syria which has been under Israeli control since the Six Day War in 1967.

Syria, for its part, is reportedly holding out for the promise of a specific timetable for that withdrawal before agreeing to direct talks about a peace agreement. The current round of negotiations between Israel and Syria has been moderated by Turkey to date.

This has prompted opposite reactions from the two men who are effectively (or, more accurately, ineffectively) serving as America’s co-presidents at this time.

President-elect Barack Obama, according to the U.K. Times, “has said privately that the Israelis would be ‘crazy’ not to accept” Syria’s offer to consider participating in a conversation about peace with Israel in exchange for the latter’s surrender of an extremely significant strategic region.

Outgoing President George W. Bush, on the other hand, has expressed to Olmert his concern that Israel is offering to return the Golan Heights to Syria for nothing more than the promise of possible future considerations (which, along with four dollars or so, will purchase a cup of coffee at the local Starbucks).

Granting Syria Undeserved Legitimacy

Terje Roed-Larsen, a UN envoy tasked with overseeing the implementation of UNSCR 1559 (ending the foreign army presence in Lebanon), recently complained to Israel’s UN delegation that, thanks to Olmert’s efforts, “Syria is receiving legitimacy for free.”

Larsen is correct. It is in large part because of Syria’s indulgence of Olmert’s eagerness to engage in preliminary peace talks that the European Commission has decided to extend the offer of a Partnership Agreement, or normalized relations, to Syria. The process of forging that partnership agreement began in 2000, but was halted until now after the 2004 assassination of Lebanese leader Rafik Hariri, an act in which Syria played an as-yet unknown role.

Yossi Levy, spokesman for Israel’s Foreign Ministry, said Israel “regretted” the EU’s willingness to move so quickly to normalize relations with Syria, and warned Europe not to “act hastily toward reaching an agreement with Syria in a way that will grant them a gift they don’t deserve at this stage.”

Olmert has refused to change his current course, despite the fact that, as Larsen said to the Israeli delegation, “Europe is courting the Syrians because of the negotiations with Israel, and they are no longer being asked to give anything in exchange.”

Repeating Prior Mistakes

Olmert’s rationale for giving away such a strategically important area stems from his belief that conceding the Golan Heights to Syria at the outset of the peace process can provide a sufficient show of good faith to help pull the Arab state out of the grip of Iran and Hezbollah and into a more pragmatic alignment with Turkey, Israel, and other more moderate states.

Livni agreed with this view, declaring that a peace agreement between Israel and Syria would result in the latter cutting ties with Iran and Hezbollah, though Assad’s government denied outright that any such thing would happen. This statement by Damascus is most likely true, given the advantages in Lebanon and the region as a whole Syria gains from its alliances with the Persian state and its Levantine terrorist proxy – advantages Syria on its own, with little by way of importance or influence, would almost certainly never be able to gain.

If the past, and Damascus’ current promises, are any guide, giving away the Golan Heights – especially with nothing in return but a promise from Damascus to consider direct peace talks at some point in the future – will only serve to “turn the Golan into Iran’s front lines,” as Likud leader Benjamin Netanyahu phrased it in an address to minority party members in May.

Pulling back to its 1967 borders would dramatically increase the danger to Israel’s homeland. In an era when Arab fighters are employing rockets and other standoff weaponry, such a move would, as Netanyahu pointed out, put the Iranian-allied Syria, and Iran’s terrorist proxy Hezbollah, on Israel’s doorstep. This would not only endanger Israeli citizens living near that border, but would also put major cities like Tel Aviv well within terrorists’ reach.

Surrendering Golan not the Answer

On the whole, Damascus has done precious little to earn recognition from Europe or concessions from, and the trust of, Israel. After all, the Syria which Ehud Olmert and Tzipi Livni expect to “flip” from extremist to pragmatic as a result of Israel’s acts of good faith is the same nation which has worked with North Korea on an illicit nuclear reactor (which Israeli fighters destroyed in November 2007) and which has granted safe passage into and out of Iraq for fighters, weapons, and suicide bombers.

The notion that an Israeli withdrawal to the so-called “1967 borders,” surrendering the Golan Heights (as well as the West Bank of the Jordan River and the already-abandoned Gaza Strip), would precipitate something akin to peace in the region is sheer fantasy which, popular though it may be in diplomatic and left-of-center circles, belies a lack of the most basic understanding of history.

“Everyone agrees that the problem of the Golan Heights, taken from Syria by Israel in the 1967 war, is the main bone of contention between Syria and Israel and actually is not that hard to resolve,” wrote former U.S. Ambassador Dan Simpson in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette last week. What “everyone” conveniently forgets when suggesting that such a concession would miraculously end the tensions between Israel and Syria is the overwhelmingly important fact that the Golan Heights were captured from Syria as a direct result of the Arab state joining the ranks of Israel’s opponents in 1967 and attacking the tiny Jewish state.

That simple fact of history begs the question that, if Syria’s possessing the Golan didn’t stop it from waging war on Israel at the time, why in the world would Israel’s surrendering the heights to Syria suddenly mend relations between the two countries?

The Definition of Insanity

When in Jerusalem in 2007, I asked I asked Olmert spokesperson Miri Eisen what her response would be to those who say that unilaterally making concessions is seen by Israel’s enemies as a sign of weakness which, like in Gaza, where the good-faith Israeli withdrawal of 2004 has been met with well over a thousand Palestinian rockets sent from the surrendered territory into Israeli cities, would serve only to embolden the fighters to strike harder.

Her response was altogether unencouraging. “We know that it is not weak,” she said, “because we know that there is strength in being able to make concessions even when it has not worked before.”

Wasn’t it Einstein who once said that “the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results”?


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The path to peace is clear

bk (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 5:08PM EST (link)

Israel needs to return to the 1967 borders as a sign of good faith – a “good first step” if you will.

And once they go that far, it’s not too much to ask that they return to the 1947 borders, is it?

What’s the problem? Why do they keep stalling?

I personally love the claim that a return to the "1967 borders" will...

Jeff Emanuel (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 5:12PM EST (link)

…end the problems. Because, you know, there were no problems before the 1967 Six Day War. None.

JE

I say we return them to the 930 BC borders

1SGinTN (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 6:38PM EST (link)

just to start another argument.

Tu Ne Cede Malis
-Virgil

Just give the Palestinians Sicily

Diogenes314 (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 6:56PM EST (link)

It’s all the damned Romans’ fault anyway.

It's Sarah's fault

1SGinTN (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 7:05PM EST (link)

She gave Abraham permission to have sex with the servant. It was downhill from there.

Tu Ne Cede Malis
-Virgil

 

nah give them Iraq and let them all sort it out :-)

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 7:08PM EST (link)

There were lots of Palistinians who went to Iraq

1SGinTN (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 7:28PM EST (link)

and never left – at least in one piece. I know some Iraqis who would love to entertain a bunch more of them in like manner.

Tu Ne Cede Malis
-Virgil

 
 
 
 
 

your a complete tool. Plus your an idiot.

Alberta (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 6:00PM EST (link)

If i said what I wanted to say Id be banned. Ill be civil. Pick up a history book.

Sir, my concern is not whether God is on our side; my greatest concern is to be on God’s side, for God is always right.
Abraham Lincoln

I think kb is being satirical, Alberta

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 6:08PM EST (link)

Not totally sure, but I think so.

Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
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Cool your jets. He's being sarcastic. [nt]

Bill S (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 6:11PM EST (link)

.

“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins

I highly recommend

JLenardDetroit (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 6:22PM EST (link)

the use of “WARNING: SARCASM” notices in some posts… Peeps ain’t mind-readers after all ;-)

I make use of them to avoid the “casual reader” (who is not used to some of our sense of humor at times) from misreading…. and remember, we’re all entitled to bad days and can interpret things “wrong” from time to time OR express things poorly that lead to someone getting things wrong

HAVE A SUPER RED-STATE DAY Y’ALL :-)

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How about... & ??????

From ME to You (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 6:46PM EST (link)
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OOPS...shoulda' been left!!!!!

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I might just save time and edit my sig.

Diogenes314 (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 7:03PM EST (link)

Add “Warning: If the above post is offensive there might be some sarcasm included. Either that or you’re just dim.”

 

I highly recommend

Bill S (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 7:12PM EST (link)

that people keep their insults to themselves unless they are quite sure of the other person’s intents, and even in that case they ought to use a little restraint.

(that was not aimed at you)

“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins

I (sometimes, being nice) try to accommodate our SLOW Liberal guests

JLenardDetroit (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 7:26PM EST (link)

WARNING TO LIBERALS: YES, purposeful insult :P

Regards from NoMoTown (the MOTORlessCITY)
“Liberals, looking to do for? America what they’ve done for? Detroit! which is DESTROY IT!”
“I think, therefore I am Conservative”
“Conservative by choice, Republican by necessity”
“You can lead a Liberal to the Truth/Facts, but you cannot make them THINK!”
“Romney [No, not my first choice] does NOT have a MORMON problem. He has a, far too many Americans; these days; are MORONS problem!”


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I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
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can I take offence... just for argument sake?

JLenardDetroit (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 7:47PM EST (link)

;-) lol

again… sorry to the author… very serious subject

Regards from NoMoTown (the MOTORlessCITY)
“Liberals, looking to do for? America what they’ve done for? Detroit! which is DESTROY IT!”
“I think, therefore I am Conservative”
“Conservative by choice, Republican by necessity”
“You can lead a Liberal to the Truth/Facts, but you cannot make them THINK!”
“Romney [No, not my first choice] does NOT have a MORMON problem. He has a, far too many Americans; these days; are MORONS problem!”


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Heil “O” Hell No Obamao is NOT MY PRESIDENT! “No U won’t”
I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
The first Liberal was Satan” – a Rush caller (other Quotes)

 
 
 
 

hey ...only mbecker gets to call people 'idiots'...

speciallist (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 6:17PM EST (link)

and …he’s got a permit for ‘Pinhead’ also…

Adn……….he gets to bash Bush whenever he wants….

and ….he gets to bring that bunny pic….

and he’s a popcorn Snob…..

AND, he can recognize award winning sarcasm when he sees it.

mbecker908 (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 7:23PM EST (link)

Usually. And when he doesn’t he has to arrange for Happy Bunny to visit himself.

Deconstructing the OP for the benefit of the sarcastically impaired, the operative reading is thus:

Israel needs to return to the 1967 borders as a sign of good faith – a “good first step” if you will.

And once they go that far, it’s not too much to ask that they return to the 1947 borders, is it?

The phrase a good first step is the give away that something askew is about to arrive on the scene. And, behold!, what arrives but a reference to Israel returning to the 1947 borders. Heh.

If you know ANYTHING about history you would know that two very important things happened in 1947. First, I was born. Second, the State of Israel was born. Thus, the obvious conclusion of the “return” verbiage would be that Israel would cease to exist. Hence the sarcasm.

I really hope we’ve cleared this up, Happy Bunny is resting and I don’t like waking him.

I was going to say....

JLenardDetroit (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 7:41PM EST (link)

repeat that again… Slowly … for our Liberal guests….

but they still wouldn’t get the sarcasm… even with you specifically pointing it out… some probably think a return to pre 47 (hence, no Israel – point that out again for our Liberal Public-School-Socialistically Indoctrinated) borders ;-)

but really… we shouldn’t be joking around with this serious subject… sorry…

NEVELLE CHAMBERLAINISM ISN’T GOING TO BRING/ACHIEVE PEACE PEEPS!!! Why we have to keep spelling that out to Liberals is beyond me (wait, yes I know, they don’t know History or haven’t learned from it yet!) Nor is endless who threw the first rock arguments…. Peace through Strength!

Regards from NoMoTown (the MOTORlessCITY)
“Liberals, looking to do for? America what they’ve done for? Detroit! which is DESTROY IT!”
“I think, therefore I am Conservative”
“Conservative by choice, Republican by necessity”
“You can lead a Liberal to the Truth/Facts, but you cannot make them THINK!”
“Romney [No, not my first choice] does NOT have a MORMON problem. He has a, far too many Americans; these days; are MORONS problem!”


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Heil “O” Hell No Obamao is NOT MY PRESIDENT! “No U won’t”
I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
The first Liberal was Satan” – a Rush caller (other Quotes)

 

It never seems as funny when you have to explain it

bk (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 9:50PM EST (link)

Reminds me of once in college when a Chinese CompSci prof told a Math joke that was a play on words. She paraphrased/mangled the punchline, then started laughing hysterically. Someone in the class had to tell the rest of us that the correct punchline was: “The squaw of the hippopotamus is equal to the sons of the squaws of the other two hides.”

 
 
 
 

because their previous signs of good faith have worked out so well

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 6:07PM EST (link)

nt

Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
Punch the Hippies h/t IMAO

 
 

There will be no peace until the Israelis ....

rcov092 (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 5:23PM EST (link)

agree to refight the 1967 war and agree to lose.

“Not One Red Dime for the NRSC or NRCC till they stop trying to elect liberals”

 

Good blog

Alberta (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 6:07PM EST (link)

I think the country went soft. I dont even think they force conscription anymore, which is terrible. When everyone was in the army, everyone was a little more attuned to reality.

When I was in Hebrew school I had a teacher, Mr Karmel, who had fought in Yom Kippur war. He would tell us about how Syrians used to stay up on the Golan and shoot at the Israelis (civilians) below. Any Israeli politician who thinks about giving this land back should be tried for treason. Syria works with Hezbollah, and by work with I mean they use it as a tool in foreign relations. Ergo, they are still committed to the death of Israel. And Olmert, a giant crook, wants to make peace with these people?

Hopefully Netanyahu will get in before long.

Sir, my concern is not whether God is on our side; my greatest concern is to be on God’s side, for God is always right.
Abraham Lincoln

 

I thought this was a Ron Paul thread.

Diogenes314 (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 6:12PM EST (link)

But I guess it’s about any jewish Obama supporters.

President-elect Barack Obama, according to the U.K. Times, “has said privately that the Israelis would be ‘crazy’ not to accept” Syria’s offer to consider participating in a conversation about peace with Israel in exchange for the latter’s surrender of an extremely significant strategic region.

I guess Mark Steyn’s going to need a sequel to America Alone.

LOL -- from the title....

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 6:15PM EST (link)

it sure appeared that way.

Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
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Concessions are akin to appeasement

1SGinTN (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 6:58PM EST (link)

Particularly when you are not negotiating from a position of great strength. Miri Eisen’s (and her boss, Olmert’s) perception of strength is vastly different from the Syrian perception.

How much time does the Olmert gov’t have to conduct these agreements? Does the Knesset then have to approve the agreement, or does olmert have a free hand? I’m not up on Israeli politics, how much strength does the Likud have in the Knesset?

As for Netanyahu, (to steal a phrase from Mr. Ledeen) faster, please.

Tu Ne Cede Malis
-Virgil

Olmert leaves office at the end of February...

Jeff Emanuel (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 7:08PM EST (link)

…when the results of the Feb. 17 special election have been certified. The race right now is between Olmert’s foreign minister Tzipi Livini, an appeaser who will follow Olmert’s own abysmally foolish strategy, and Benjamin Netanyahu, who – needless to say – will not.

Last polling I saw had them within the MOE of each other.

JE

In your opinion

1SGinTN (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 7:40PM EST (link)

will this impending agreement serve to focus the Israeli electorate towards support of Netanyahu? I can’t imagine the Israelis would willingly give up the Golan Heights given the Iranian hegemony in the area. On a side note, the Iranians are apparently setting up a base with ballistic missles in Eritrea at the Red Sea choke point. Now they have (or will soon) have control of two shipping choke points – this one and the Straight of Hormuz.

Tu Ne Cede Malis
-Virgil

Sadly, no

Jeff Emanuel (Diary) Wednesday, December 17th at 12:42AM EST (link)

Israel, like America, is burdened by a liberal press and a latté-sipping lefty/chattering class that believes, like American lefties do, that self-guilt and concession is the way to go, and would rather blame fellow Israelis in southern cities like Sderot and Ashkelon for getting in the way of the rockets Hamas sends over the border every day, rather than actually trying to do something about it.

JE

 
 
 
 

eaglewingz Tuesday, December 16th at 7:17PM EST (link)

Olmert will go down as a criminal traitor of the Israeli people, sort of like John Kerry and William Ayers in the USA. The insanity of Olmert and his attempt to find ‘good faith’ in the Iranian based Syrian regime is astonishing and a sign of his government’s mental illness. What does Olmert expect Syria to do once it has operational control of Israel’s Golan Heights (which were annexed to Israel and which legally I am not sure Israel could sever-though Israel’s activist Supreme Court is even more anti Israeli than our SCOTUS is anti American, which is true though hard to believe, and could approve such lawlessness by the Labor/Kadima party)? The missiles that would rain down on Israel would not be the nuisance missiles coming in from Gaza, but the Shahab missiles from Iran and Syrian tanks would bar Israel from gaining traction to invade Syria (and whatever losses Israeli forces would receive from Syria/Iran would not be replenished under the Obama/Powers/Rice Administration in time to avert a catastrophe to Israel).

It is no wonder that Iran believes that Israel is not long for this world. With traitors like Olmert/Livni/Peres, the Iranians could not possibly believe that these are the descendants of Abraham/Moses/David/Solomon/Elijah but that they must be the descendants of some imposter group wrongfully seeking to exploit arabs/muslims in the Mideast.
I hope time is sufficient for Netanyahu to become Prime Minister, but even he appears to weak to surmount both Syria/Iran/Russia and a hostile Obama Administration.

 

For whoever didn't 'get' my comment #1

bk (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 9:19PM EST (link)

Of course I was trying to illustrate how stupid the lefty/Rice/Islamic/whoever arguments are. They add up to “if Israel would just give up everything we lost to them every time we tried to wipe them out, then we’ve got a good starting point.” What a load of crap!

By that argument, if Mexico demands Aztlan back we should give it to them. (Maybe that’s not such a bad idea now that I think about it.) And it turns out the Russians got snookered on Alaska and the Native Americans on Manhattan so let’s give those back too. Then there’s the Louisiana Purchase. The list is endless.

No matter what Israel does, it won’t be good enough. If they go back to the 1967 borders that won’t suffice. They’ll have to give up half of Jerusalem. There will also probably be demands that Israel get split so that the West Bank and the Gaza Strip are contiguous. The list is endless.

Israel has two choices – fight or surrender. There is no such thing as peace with their neighbors as long as there is an Israel.

 

I still say.. put the UN building in Jerusalem...

JLenardDetroit (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 10:10PM EST (link)

let every nations leaders have to deal with being directly in the line of fire of all the issues/concerns there… they may finally get some perspective…

Regards from NoMoTown (the MOTORlessCITY)
“Liberals, looking to do for? America what they’ve done for? Detroit! which is DESTROY IT!”
“I think, therefore I am Conservative”
“Conservative by choice, Republican by necessity”
“You can lead a Liberal to the Truth/Facts, but you cannot make them THINK!”
“Romney [No, not my first choice] does NOT have a MORMON problem. He has a, far too many Americans; these days; are MORONS problem!”


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I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
The first Liberal was Satan” – a Rush caller (other Quotes)

Could it be placed half in East and half in West Jerusalem?

bk (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 10:19PM EST (link)

And the main assembly hall can be put right in the center so that Israel and the US have room to spread out in the west half of the hall and most everyone else can cram in the east half.

sounds good... when do we break ground (1/20?)

JLenardDetroit (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 10:26PM EST (link)

Oblahblah thinks he’s been elected ruler of the planet… so no reason that won’t be part of the INFRASTRUCTURE $pending he’ll look at…. it’s for World Peace after-all (now I’ve made myself ill).

But seriously, putting it there would be a positive step at making all nations miserable… Maybe then they’ll give a darn about Iran having Nuclear weapons aimed that direction!?!?! Bombers on the streets where they and their families have to travel!?!? etc…..

and we’ll finally be rid of all those low-lifes getting to come here and sneaking spies in “in the name of Diplomacy”…. gag again

Regards from NoMoTown (the MOTORlessCITY)
“Liberals, looking to do for? America what they’ve done for? Detroit! which is DESTROY IT!”
“I think, therefore I am Conservative”
“Conservative by choice, Republican by necessity”
“You can lead a Liberal to the Truth/Facts, but you cannot make them THINK!”
“Romney [No, not my first choice] does NOT have a MORMON problem. He has a, far too many Americans; these days; are MORONS problem!”


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Heil “O” Hell No Obamao is NOT MY PRESIDENT! “No U won’t”
I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
The first Liberal was Satan” – a Rush caller (other Quotes)

 
 

Interesting idea, but I'd still rather put it in

mbecker908 (Diary) Tuesday, December 16th at 10:22PM EST (link)

Mogadishu. Or somewhere in Zimbabwe.