At 7:30PM Wednesday, the Senate will hold roll call votes on six amendments and pieces of legislation. Those items are as follows:
- Motion to concur on the House message, HR 2095, Rail Safety
- Dorgan amendment relating to HR 7081, the US-India Nuclear agreement
- Bingaman amendment relating to HR 7081, the US-India Nuclear agreement
- Passage of HR 7081, the US-India Nuclear agreement
- Dodd amendment to HR 1424, relating to the bailout (“Emergency Economic Stabilization”) package (This amendment, which must be agreed upon by both the majority and minority leader, will call up a previously passed House Resolution and add the Senate bailout language which hasn’t yet been seen. More on this below the fold.)
- Passage of HR 1424
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D) is allowing socialist Bernie Sanders (I-VT) to offer an amendment to the legislation that would add a 10% surtax on those Americans whose incomes are $500,000 or more to help pay for the bailout.
In an attempt to rope more House Republicans into voting for the Stabilization bill this time around, Reid and Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R) are tacking a tax cut already passed 93-2 by the Senate onto the bailout legislation.
According to the Associated Press:
The tax plan passed the Senate last week, on a 93-2 vote. It included [Alternative Minimum Tax] relief, $8 billion in tax relief for those hit by natural disasters in the Midwest, Texas and Louisiana, and some $78 billion in renewable energy incentives and extensions of expiring tax breaks.
In a compromise worked out with Republicans, the bill does not pay for the AMT and disaster provisions but does have revenue offsets for part of the energy and extension measures. That wasn’t enough for the House, which insisted that there be complete offsets for the energy and extension part of the package.
The Senate move seems aimed at jamming the House into accepting the deficit-financed tax cuts. Conservative Democrats won’t like the idea, but some Congress-watchers suspect most Democrats might be willing to go along.
If a mere dozen of the 132 House Republicans who voted against the bill Monday morning change their minds, whether prompted to do so by the opportunity to pass this tax cut or not, and all other members keep their votes the same, then the bailout should pass, and be signed into law shortly thereafter.
Then again, had the dozen members of Barney Frank’s (D-MA) committee, which was responsible for putting the failed original bill together, who didn’t vote for the legislation done so — or had Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi lifted a finger or a phone to actually persuade their own side of the aisle to support their bill (95 Democrats voted against), them this would already largely be over.
Incidentally, HR 1424, the resolution McConnell and Reid are calling up and amending with the Senate’s bailout language (via the Dodd amendment mentioned above) and with the aforementioned tax breaks, is an entirely unrelated piece of legislation known as the “Paul Wellstone Mental Health and Addiction Equity Act.”
This resolution was passed March 5 of this year in the House and sent to the Senate for action. Thanks to Dodd, Reid, and McConnell, it’s finally seeing that action — and it may well be sent right back to the House this week to be passed again (albeit this time with a few hundred billion more in expenditures included in the text).
The Wellstone memorial bill is hugely popular with Democrats; further, tax breaks are, of course, very popular with Republicans. As a Capitol Hill contact emailed me a few minutes ago:
So take the most unpopular bill in years, wrap it in two popular bills from the left and right and dare anyone to vote no. That’s Congress these days.
Weren’t the presidential candidates and Hill leaders just warning a few days ago that the bailout shouldn’t be used as a Christmas tree for unrelated programs?
Sure they were. But apparently no price is too high when you’re trying to get $700 billion more in taxpayer-funded expenditures approved.
[Update-9/30@2140CDT] Quin Hillyer at The American Spectator blog calls the tying of a tax cut to the bailout plan an “absolutely disgusting tactic.” He continues:
When you are talking about the single most significant growth of government power EVER, you should let it sink or swim on its own.You don’t attach it to a goodie basket and dare the other chamber to vote against it. To do so is a cheap, despicable tactic. It is the tactic of people without the courage of their convictions — the tactic of cowards. Yes, cowards.
I am utterly disgusted with McConnell and the entire Senate leadership. This is not the way to handle legislations[sic] as serious as this is.
If the House GOP had any guts, then if the Senate sends the House the bill in this form — thus also making a mockery, via legerdemain, of the requirement that such financial bills should start in the House — MORE of the House GOP than before should vote against it, in protest against this sort of hardball pressure.
With regard to Quin’s closing paragraph, the Senate is (as I mentioned above) working around the requirement that revenue-generating legislation must originate in the House by calling up a Resolution already passed in the House and submitted to the Senate, then adding the Senate’s bailout language to that Resolution before voting on the bill and, if it passes, sending it back down to the House for another vote.
Neil Stevens
Steve Maley
Congress is gutless?
Dan McLaughlin (Diary) Tuesday, September 30th at 11:30PM EST (link)Really, this is news?
I don’t much like the Christmas tree approach either, but if it’s two bills nobody much opposes, and that spponful of sugar helps the medicine go down, so be it.
“No compromise with the main purpose, no peace till victory, no pact with unrepentant wrong.” – Winston Churchill
Bail out is a Bail out
Maggie_in_Indiana (Diary) Tuesday, September 30th at 11:51PM EST (link)The House minority leader just bailed. We are toast. Womnder if they’ll announce the bill on first or vote so early no one will hae chance to see the a a a add ons. Now I am really mad. g-night.
Maggie in Indiana
Well, I think I will give up also... Just not worth
dbecraft Tuesday, September 30th at 11:56PM EST (link)the fight anymore…
Formally known as Deagle… “Golf is a way of life…”
Heh. Just an update, my friend.
Jeff Emanuel (Diary) Wednesday, October 1st at 12:01AM EST (link)I’m still not convinced this is necessary.
Still not convinced it’s not, either, though. Too much shouting from both sides of the issue into either of my ears.
I think I’ll head to bed, wake up in a couple months, and just get filled in on what happened in the interim. Sound good?
JE
At this point Dan, I agree
Brian Simpson (Diary) Wednesday, October 1st at 12:32AM EST (link)While the Paulson plan is not perfect, it is the frame work for whatever bill will be passed.
At least this way, there are some things that make it seem somewhat worthwhile.
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That's the Spirit!
ATLconservative Wednesday, October 1st at 1:07AM EST (link)Just give up! That’ll fix this mess!
I realize Congress doesn't give a crap about the Constitution
bk (Diary) Wednesday, October 1st at 2:56AM EST (link)but if they followed it, would Article I Section 7 come into play? It starts out with:
Aren’t all these shenanigans just creating a giant loophole around this clause? On the off chance that it wouldn’t count as a revenue bill per se, wouldn’t the Sanders amendment make it one?
It *is* newsworthy...
Laura (Diary) Wednesday, October 1st at 3:32AM EST (link)because I had no idea what the deal was being sweetened with.
My gut still tells me that this bailout is being driven 75% by frenzy and 25% by real need.
But the McCain campaign email tonight cites a couple of very “Main Street” implications of the tightening of credit. I quote Sen. McCain’s email below:
It all seemed theoretical to me until reading that.
I am rather surprised at some of what my candidate recommended to the President as remedies. He continues:
It’s the purchasing of $1 trillion in mortgages that I find surprising. If this has, as he says, already been funded, are we double-solving the problem with the House Resolution?
And doing so in a very un-market-friendly fashion?
Just food for thought…
Also, the Kos kids today seemed to revel in saying that, “Heeeeey! McCain stole the FDIC insurance limit increase idea from Obama!” Can we respond that McCain following Obama would be like…the professor following the kindergartener? Like David Brinkley following Keith Olbermann?
And anyway, isn’t it a little untoward to scramble to claim credit for a pretty logical idea…insure other deposits to the level that IRA’s are already insured…amidst a crisis?
Once done it will never be undone.
Steph C (Diary) Wednesday, October 1st at 5:59AM EST (link)This will give the government unprecedented power over our economy much the way it gained unprecedented power during the time of FDR and that tradition continues every time the Democrats get a chance.
The Democrats have been promising us a recession since at least 2004 and each time it doesn’t happen when they say it’s going to happen, they come up with another date. Now, we do have a bit of a crisis but the markets will work it out.
Since GE Capital is part of General Electric, GE is hurting by itself because of its anti-American practices in dealing with Iran. They are losing money in other sectors of their whole operation. Not enough people are buying GE. If Sonic is “in bed” with GE, I have no sympathy for them.
In addition, if we’re in a recession, why is Sonic wanting to build new restaurants anyway? You’d think they’d be in a holding pattern rather than risk the financial loss.
Folks, this is socialism on the march which is the only long term plan the Democrats have. They’ll use Republicans to push it through, then blame them when it all goes to hell,and effectively cripple the Republican party for decades if not forever. In the meantime they will capitalize on their new found power to garner ever more freedom robbing powers to themselves.
Think about the offshore drilling moratorium in place for 27 years. On the eve of its expiration they know they’re in danger of losing political ground if they extend it, so they have a new crisis in hand and the moratorium expires with little notice because everyone is in panic mode over the economy.
This reminds me of my ex-husband’s family. Any time they did you a favor, even if it was unasked, they expected it back a hundredfold. This is a government power grab we cannot let happen. They gave up the moratorim for something bigger and more powerful for them.
Read Dan McLaughlin’s blog about things that can be done in spite of a bailout.
Believe me, I have my own fears in this crisis, but I refuse to let that fear guide me into doing something that will forever change the face of this nation.
“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
Hillbilly Politics
Well, I'm going to be wasting my breath
Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Wednesday, October 1st at 7:34AM EST (link)And I’m sure I’m going to draw a lot of fire from the anti-bailout crowd, but here we go…
We LOST in 2006. Elections matter.
The reason why this is going to happen, like it or not, is because we are the minority party. We get to try and shape legislation to make it more palitable, but all the gnashing of teeth and railing about the cause of the crisis are irrelavent. The credit markets are frozen by a trillion dollars worth of bad paper.
You can live with a slightly less bad version of government control of the markets, and hope it is temporary. Or you can continue to scream about it all the way to election day, and watch as something even worse is passed by President Obama and his Democrat Congress.
Politically there are only two options right now.
1) We try to mitigate the damage that this crap is going to cause, use whatever leverage we have to make this temporary, and take as much credit for it as we can. Maybe this will then get off the front page and we have a slight (though fading fast) chance of at least getting McCain elected with veto power.
2) We fall on our swords, watch another 1 or 2 trillion of market equity drop out of our 401Ks, and then enjoy the show on November 4th as Obama wins with 300+ EVs. Make no mistake, the voters WILL punish Republicans for a market crash. It doesn’t matter who is at fault, they will punish us anyway.
I was terribly disturbed to watch everyone pile on Steve Forbes last night. Questioning his motives, when he has been a standup guy for our movement over the years, was amazingly rude. When people I respect that are experts in finance tell me that things are perilously close to collapse, I tend to believe what they tell me. Just like when I bring engineering problems to my management, I expect them to listen to me. Expertise is hard won over many years of experience. You ignore it at your own peril.
“If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” – Joe McCarthy
Now...
mikefisk (Diary) Wednesday, October 1st at 8:02AM EST (link)…if only Congress would come to the same conclusion.
I have been in support of the Paulson plan (which I am refusing to call a bailout; if critics of the plan can use semantics, so can I), but am starting to think that the situation may end up resolving itself without any Congressional action. Fed action along with FDIC coverage should end up sorting out the wheat from the chaff, theoretically speaking, in the banking industry.
“Once within the maw of Leviathan, degree of digestion is irrelevant.” – Michael Fisk
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5 Well Said (NT)
Samsara (Diary) Wednesday, October 1st at 10:33AM EST (link)NT
BEST ARGUMENT AGAINST THE BILL
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Wednesday, October 1st at 11:26AM EST (link)IT MAKES THE GOVERNMENT WAY TOO POWERFUL. MUCH MORE POWERFUL THAN IT IS TODAY.
MORE LATER
Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson
Bailout?
olsmithie (Diary) Wednesday, October 1st at 5:32PM EST (link)Hard to call it anything else, even with lipstick.
Jim Teague of Barrons stated that many economists are saying there is a month or two to work this problem out. No reason to rush through it.
Check out his story on Yahoo video.
Remember Keynesian economics, first brought to you by FDR, is still socialist economics.
Sooo…. even with various Senator’s pet legislation in it, if it was a bad bill before, it is still a bad bill.
Regards