International newswire activity spiked two mornings ago when word came from Afghanistan that nine U.S. troops had been killed in an attack on a remote coalition base.
“A multi-pronged militant assault on a small, remote U.S. base killed nine American soldiers Sunday in one of the deadliest attacks on U.S. troops since the 2001 invasion,” crowed the Associated Press. “Militants fired machine guns, rocket-propelled grenades and mortars from homes and a mosque in the village of Wanat in the northeastern province of Kunar, a mountainous region that borders Pakistan.”
Reporters were quick to point out that this battle, which began in the wee hours of the morning on Sunday and lasted well into the day, resulted in the highest number of American casualties in Afghanistan since sixteen were killed when a helicopter was downed by RPG fire.
However, when the smoke of the battle cleared, and there was no mounting total of dead Americans to cover, news agencies lost interest, and moved along to cover other, bloodier developments in Afghanistan and elsewhere.
Had those mainstream reporters continued paying attention, chances are they would have noted something remarkable about Sunday’s battle.
Three days before the attack, 45 U.S. paratroopers from the 173d Airborne, accompanied by 25 Afghan soldiers, made their way to Kunar province, a remote area in the northeastern Afghanistan-Pakistan border area, and established the beginnings of a small Combat Outpost (COP). Their movement into the area was noticed, and their tiny numbers and incomplete fortifications were quickly taken advantage of.
A combined force of up to 500 Taliban and al Qaeda fighters quickly moved into the nearby village of Wanat and prepared for their assault by evicting unallied residents and according to an anonymous senior Afghan defense ministry official, “us[ing] their houses to attack us.”
Tribesmen in the town stayed behind “and helped the insurgents during the fight,” General Mohammad Qasim Jangalbagh, the provincial police chief, told The Associated Press. Dug-in mortar firing positions were created, and with that indirect fire, as well as heavy machine gun and RPG fire from fixed positions, Taliban and al Qaeda fighters rushed the COP from three sides.
The attackers quickly breached the outer perimeter, and, under a withering barrage of supporting fire, a contingent of a mere 70 U.S. and Afghan soldiers combined were forced to fight for survival on their own outpost against the all-out assault from nearly 100 assailants.
The overwhelmingly outnumbered U.S. troops called in artillery, as well as fixed and rotary-wing air support, to help the repulse the attacking forces.
As recounted by the AP and other media outlets, nine U.S. paratroopers lost their lives — a full fifth of the American contingent.
Further, fifteen U.S. and four Afghan soldiers were also wounded in the attack, meaning that, against an assault and support force of nearly 500 militant fighters, only 21 U.S. and 21 Afghan soldiers were able to fight at full strength — and they succeeded not only in killing dozens of attackers, but in repelling the onslaught completely.
Since 2005, “U.S. forces have stepped up their presence in Kunar and neighboring Nuristan province,” writes Bill Roggio in the Long War Journal, “building remote outposts and bases along established smuggling routes used by insurgent forces.”
Kunar province is home to “the notorious Ghahki Pass, a narrow gorge connecting Pakistan’s Bajaur tribal agency with Kunar province” which “has remained a vital extremist infiltration route since the [Global War on Terror] began.”
Roggio continues:
In October 2001, more than 1,000 Pakistani jihadists flooded through the narrow canyon into Afghanistan and joined the Taliban in their fight against Coalition forces. Seven years later, the local population remains openly hostile to both the Afghan government and US forces, making it an ideal area for extremist activity to thrive.
Extremist activity is clearly thriving in Kunar, as Sunday morning’s assault on the tiny, unfinished Combat Outpost demonstrated.
Perhaps the most important takeaway from that encounter, though, is the one that the mainstream media couldn’t be bothered to pay attention long enough to learn: that, not for the first time, a contingent of American soldiers that was outnumbered by up to a twenty-to-one ratio soundly and completely repulsed a complex, pre-planned assault by those dedicated enough to their cause to kill themselves in its pursuit.
That kind of heroism and against-all-odds success is and has been a hallmark of America’s fighting men and women, and it is one that is worthy of all attention we can possibly give it.
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Sounds very much like
Dan McLaughlin (Diary) Wednesday, July 16th at 3:43PM EST (link)Rorke’s Drift, albeit with air support. The Americans here showed same fighting spirit.
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Well, Michael Moore sees it differently
kowalski (Diary) Wednesday, July 16th at 5:37PM EST (link)And since he supports the article by posting it on his home page, I guess that’s the way it really is, Jeff.
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See, Jeff...
kowalski (Diary) Wednesday, July 16th at 5:45PM EST (link)You can go to Iraq and put yourself in the line of fire and send back thousands of words to support what you believe in, and be proven correct, but that doesn’t matter.
All Michael Moore has to do is post an article on his webpage and he becomes a hero.
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I have an evolutionary theory about this
kowalski (Diary) Wednesday, July 16th at 6:06PM EST (link)I actually have an evolutionary theory about this, and the relevant part is a cross-species comparison of parasites:
In most lower species on the planet, parasites belong to a lower form of life than their hosts and they are plainly inferior to the higher forms of life from which they steal their living.
Among human beings — the dominant species on the planet, however — this is reversed, at least in terms of public perception. The largest and most successful parasites actually exist at the top of the food chain and use their position there to sustain themselves, because of a critical design flaw in the human architecture that lets them get away with it.
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There does seem to be
Brian Simpson (Diary) Wednesday, July 16th at 6:11PM EST (link)a preponderance of evidence to support your theory.
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WHO WANTSOME?!
Crowe (Diary) Wednesday, July 16th at 6:26PM EST (link)Man. That’s a message to the tribal dirtbags in that province. They send 500 to take out 70 and lose?
That’ll depress dirtbag recruitment.
“We sleep soundly in our beds only because
rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence upon those who would do us harmDear Leader Obama gives us leave to do so.”The temple cat syndrome
Next93 (Diary) Wednesday, July 16th at 6:30PM EST (link)Wow, a double-Kowalski into a threadjack. Degree of difficulty: 3
Years ago I identified a phenomenon in the engineering world that I call the Temple Cat Syndrome. It involves a non-technical manager hitching his/her star to the most arrogant technical person in the vicininity, and eventually elevating that person’s opinions to the status of Divine Truth.
The name comes from my beleif that the ancient Egyptians decided that what we now call the domestic cats MUST have been gods, beause nothing could be THAT arrogant if it didn’t have something to back it up.
I can’t say what this assumption cost the ancient Egyptians, but I’ve seen a LOT of projects spiral into the ground because of the Temple Cat Syndrome.
Obama was The One in 2008.
He’ll be a BIGGER one in 2012.
That comports with my understanding
Achance (Diary) Wednesday, July 16th at 6:59PM EST (link)from numerous talks with my infantryman son who spent about a year in SE Afghanistan. Large numbers of “Taliban” would attack their FOB or various encampments when they were on patrol. They fired wildly and without discipline or discernabe tactics. The Americans just methodically went about their business and destroyed them, turning the “wounded” and those who “surrendered” over to the tender mercies of the Afghan Army.
I probably know and have seen some things that I shouldn’t have, but I think it is fair to say that a disciplined platoon or two of American soldiers is worth many times their number of guys trying to get their virgins.
In Vino Veritas
I'd agree with that, Art.
Jeff Emanuel (Diary) Wednesday, July 16th at 7:04PM EST (link)We’re better than any Army in the world — let alone a militia. However, I would encourage you not to underestimate the difficulties inherent in continually fighting off attacks from groups of people who are not only willing to die just to kill a few Americans or Afghans, but who want to die to do so.
Attacks like this one are coordinated and complex, as well. They may not hit everything they’re aiming at, but a three-sided assault with mortar, crew-served weapon, and RPG supporting fires shows enough tactical awareness to send the message to our boys to stay on their toes.
JE
Oh, I know;
Achance (Diary) Wednesday, July 16th at 7:08PM EST (link)they won them all or I wouldn’t be telling the story, but it wasn’t without loss. You put enough lead in the air and somebody gets hurt, no matter how good you are, and from what he tells me, they could put a Helluva lot of lead in the air.
In Vino Veritas
And any good engineer knows
kowalski (Diary) Wednesday, July 16th at 7:25PM EST (link)And any good engineer knows that humility is the first thing they need to understand completely, because as Richard Feynman once wrote:
Nature Cannot Be Fooled
But human beings can, and frequently are. Great analogy.
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According to an arcticle on the Fox News site,
Vegas_Rick (Diary) Wednesday, July 16th at 7:38PM EST (link)There are a great many troops in Iraq who want to go to Afganistan, where the fight is. As it’s always been, our guys want some!
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Yahuti (Diary) Wednesday, July 16th at 8:42PM EST (link)Your exchanges with Achance brought to mind earlier OK Corral shootouts, and the ferocity with which young Americans will fight toe-to-toe with anybody under impossible odds. for each other.
That action had to be a bit dispiriting for those poor militant guys – and it was against only one- half of an American infantry company!!
Fortunately for them . . .
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Lol, not the engineers I know
Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Wednesday, July 16th at 8:56PM EST (link)We call it the expert model. An engineer rolls into a meeting with a customer and starts to tell them how to solve their problem, without first hearing what the problem is.
They always look at me with shock when I tell them their arrogantly smug attitude may have just cost us the proposal. Always makes for a really fun discussion during performance appraisals.
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The truth is
Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Wednesday, July 16th at 9:02PM EST (link)In many ways we civilians don’t even know how good our military is, especially looked at from a historical sense. I’ve worked with (and in) the DoD for most of my career, and I am constantly stunned by the capabilties I see in our forward leaning units.
“If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” – Joe McCarthy
Blessed Are the Meek, for They Shall Inherit the Earth (nt).
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That's a sociological problem
kowalski (Diary) Wednesday, July 16th at 9:18PM EST (link)That’s not so much a failure of ability as it is a failure of socialization: before you can even define the problem in terms of programming (which is what I think you’re talking about) you need to listen to what it is, not assume what you think it is.
Before anyone writes a line of code on a big project they should be forced to spend at least a two weeks walking around and talking, taking extensive notes — in longhand, on sheets of paper — about the problem they’re trying to help solve. Spending time with the people they’re trying to help with a computer program, and especially noticing the little details that cause things to go wrong. Even the simplest application can be undone with arrogance, and even the simplest application requires humility to write well.
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Not software
Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Wednesday, July 16th at 9:23PM EST (link)Not software, but your point is correct universally within engineering.
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The MSM and the libs always say the real
streetwise (Diary) Wednesday, July 16th at 9:35PM EST (link)battle is in Afghanistan. So why don’t they pay attention to the bravery and successes of our forces?
when how
nobob Wednesday, July 16th at 9:47PM EST (link)A brave fight, yes all in all heroic. As I read the post had to be abandoned. What inroads we achieve on the Afghan side are undone by Pakistan’s failure to secure their side. When and how can we get them to step up? What is the hard part? Is hot pursuit not yet an option?
When I lived in Baltimore
kowalski (Diary) Wednesday, July 16th at 9:48PM EST (link)When I lived in Baltimore before I moved to Chicago, I did some temp. work for a midsized architectural and engineering firm, doing things like helping to finish the drafts on the specifications of the structures they were building.
I was astonished by the amount of documentation a large project really required, and as a wet-behind-the-ears smartypants I used to talk about it with some of their senior people at lunch:
Their company was successful not because they were cheaper, but because they really, really, really paid attention to the details on the projects they were working on. They spent what a lot of firms would consider to be an inordinate amount of time studying the project before they even formally bid, and they had a team of people they’d send to accomplish that study beforehand, which took weeks in some cases. I helped type up and format thousands of pages of documentation comprising those notes and more formalized aspects of their projects and the sheer amount of labor involved was breathtaking.
But their buildings don’t fall down, their facilities work as they promised they would, and they are a very successful company because once the project is finished, it’s been pretty da*n well thought through.
Their network administrator, BTW, was so comprehensively paranoid and utterly competent that he wouldn’t even let me set foot in his work area. Nice guy, we joked about it at lunch a couple of times and I completely understood his point of view — he wasn’t about to let some temp. wreck his company. He was making about $150k per year back in 1994 and he was worth every penny.
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The real battle is always the one
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Wednesday, July 16th at 9:49PM EST (link)we aren’t waging after 72 hours – 13 week sitcom test period when Connecticut doesn’t appear on the battlefield (unless a Dem is waging it from the oval office while observing felatio).
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It's getting there, but...
Jeff Emanuel (Diary) Wednesday, July 16th at 9:53PM EST (link)…it’s a sensitive situation
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It's Makes A Person Proud...
Wubbies World (Diary) Wednesday, July 16th at 9:57PM EST (link)… that men better than ourselves are so brave and simply the best any nation has ever offered on the battle field!
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This is what was said about Iraq
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Wednesday, July 16th at 10:08PM EST (link)and the whole whack a mole derision. The key is to stay the course, outlast them, win over the natives that want to play soccer and convince them IN TIME that we are not going to lose. That we will not lose.
Its about will.
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That time thing again.
Flagstaff (Diary) Wednesday, July 16th at 11:04PM EST (link)Nothing convinces the skeptical that we are strong and steadfast more than being strong and steadfast over a sustained period of time.
“The press is so powerful in its image-making role that it can make a criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”– Malcolm X, Audubon Ballroom, December 13, 1964
There are good reasons why they are so careful, as you know.
Flagstaff (Diary) Wednesday, July 16th at 11:33PM EST (link)If you remember, in 1981 there was a disastrous collapse of the skywalks within the Hyatt Hotel in Kansas City. Hundreds of people died, and stories of heroic behavior in the aftermath of the event were plentiful.
After engineering and architectural plans were compared to the rubble, it was determined that the primary cause was an on-site decision made at the time of construction. According to the plans, a single support rod at each support point was supposed to hold all the levels of the concrete skywalk. Hardware, sort of like a big washer and fastener, would hold up each level at the proper height.
Instead, multiple rods were used, each one supported by the level above it. The problem was that the “washer” at each level had to support all the levels below it, not just one. The ceiling hardware was designed to do that–the skywalk levels weren’t. At the top level it failed under all the unplanned additional weight.
I don’t know of any better example of why planning, testing, and verification are orders of magnitude better than seat of the pants guesses. That particular night hundreds of people died or were injured because of such a guess. Pay attention to details and nobody notices. Overlook the details, and disaster can follow.
“The press is so powerful in its image-making role that it can make a criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”– Malcolm X, Audubon Ballroom, December 13, 1964
The AP makes me sick.
Flagstaff (Diary) Wednesday, July 16th at 11:47PM EST (link)Time to say it. It now stands for “Anti Patriotic” news service.
Way to turn a decisive victory into a defeat.
Seems to me they did the same thing in Viet Nam, many years ago.
“The press is so powerful in its image-making role that it can make a criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”– Malcolm X, Audubon Ballroom, December 13, 1964
I don't doubt
Raven (Diary) Thursday, July 17th at 1:52AM EST (link)That the Army translator was shouting exactly that in the local language at the end.
God only knows what the Afghan soldiers were shouting…
there’s something similar I really REALLY want to say or have someone prominent say when they get threatened with retribution for some “anti-Muslim” thing they say or do:
“Bring it, [female-dogs]!!”
“If you do not have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.”
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I'm IN one of those units
Raven (Diary) Thursday, July 17th at 2:01AM EST (link)And the fresh kids straight out of Basic and AIT are so squared away, so COMPETENT at their duties it’s scary.
But being in a route clearance company, there’s not a bunch of people I’d rather have in my first leadership position. Especially for a job even the newest and youngest have been doing longer than this logistician has.
“If you do not have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.”
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Raven, I didn't know you were in a route clearance unit
Jeff Emanuel (Diary) Thursday, July 17th at 8:08AM EST (link)God bless you, man. Talk about a 100% necessary job that is composed of hours of boredom, punctuated by moments of sheer terror…
JE
God Bless and stay safe Raven!
Brian Hibbert (Diary) Thursday, July 17th at 8:20AM EST (link)I know nothing first hand about your job, but from what I do know, you guys are doing an extraordinary service for our country.
Thank you.
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KBDay (Diary) Thursday, July 17th at 12:18PM EST (link)You do realize you are insulting parasites, right?
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I am now
Raven (Diary) Friday, July 18th at 1:49AM EST (link)I said I wanted to play with explosives when I went back to the reserves from recruiting.
EOD wasn’t available. Retention hooked me up. Yet again I have gotten exactly what I asked for but not necessarily what I really wanted…
“If you do not have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.”
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