Ruth “Eugenia” Ginsburg


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Politicians are notorious for obfuscating the truth, so Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s admission that her belief, “…that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of,” was stunning on many levels.   The most glaring portion of her statement is contained in the revealing words, …that we don’t want to have too many of.”  The unwanted aspect of her statement, speaks directly to the micro choice she champions for women, as it relates to the macro choices of society.

Justice Ginsburg acknowledged that “unwanted people,” regardless of the reason, could be dealt with through methods that incorporate controlling the growth of certain groups though abortion and reproductive rights, or what is defined as eugenics.

Eugenics is a science that deals with the improvement of hereditary qualities of race or breed by controlling human reproduction. Ginsburg candidly admitted she believed population control was the reason for Roe v. Wade.  Ginsberg, while well aware of the unwanted component, still strongly supports abortion.  In doing so, she joins many controversial people, throughout history, who have implemented similar practices to purge themselves of unwanted people.

In the Victorian age, a cousin of Charles Darwin, Sir Francis Galton believed that if gifted people mated with gifted people their offspring would be measurably more talented.  American eugenic advocates applied Mendelian theory determining the color and size of vegetables and cows, to human beings.  The goal was to identify “defective” genetic lines and subject them to segregation and sterilization in an effort to eradicate bloodlines, eliminating reproductive capability of the weak and inferior, ushering in the means for the fittest among them to survive.  In effect, forcibly thrashing out unwanted people.

Ginsburg is not the first Supreme Court judge to acknowledge eugenic methods as a means of controlling propagation of the unwelcome.  In 1927 Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes wrote, “It is better for the world, if instead of waiting to execute degenerate offspring for crime, or let them starve for their imbecility, society can prevent those who are manifestly unfit from continuing their kind…three generations of imbeciles are enough.”  In other words, Holmes justified and viewed as moral, ridding the earth of people deemed unwanted.

Ironically, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, who supports the destruction of unwanted people in the form of abortion, could be defined as an unwanted person herself.  A Jewess, Ginsburg, if living in Germany during WWII, would have been herded with her family into a cattle car and encouraged to take a shower to freshen up with her Jewish brethren.  In Hitler’s struggle for a superior race he attempted to rid the world of unwanted people. Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s ability to produce progeny would have been strongly discouraged through sterilization or more likely in the gas chamber.

Beginning with the elderly and the infirm Hitler justified gassing inferior individuals who were tainting the Aryan nation. These diabolical policies culminated in the annihilation of 6 million people defined as contaminant to the purity of the race. Based on Ginsburg’s ideological support for abortion, a logical conclusion could be that the Honorable Supreme Court Justice would have agreed with Hitler.  Following the trajectory of her logic, unwanted is unwanted regardless of the reason.

Abortion advocates, including Margaret Sanger award winner Hillary Clinton, laud the accomplishments of Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger who herself was a proponent of eugenics.  Her goal was to rid the world of African Americans through abortion and the neutering of young people deemed racially unfit.  Sanger’s objective was a “…superior race that was free of poor, immigrant and minority citizens.”  When accepting the highest award that Planned Parenthood confers, Clinton compared Margaret Sanger to Thomas Jefferson.  Clinton mentioned Sanger’s superiority to Jefferson because Jefferson had slaves…slaves that Sanger would have preferred be exterminated in lieu of serving tea on a plantation to a slave owning Founding Father.

Sanger and Hitler, like Ginsburg, recognized that there were unwanted people and that policy needed to be implemented to control their proliferation.  Sanger said, “…immigrants and Catholics are reckless breeders…an unceasingly spawning class of human beings who never should have been born at all.”  In Sanger’s unwanted people group Ginsburg herself would have been listed as a disposable person.  Sanger opined that, “Slavs, Latin and Hebrew immigrants are human weeds…a deadweight of human waste…Blacks, soldiers and Jews are a menace to the race,” a sentiment the Justice should be empathetic toward based on her opinions on abortion.  For Ginsburg, Sanger and even Hitler, unwanted is unwanted regardless of the reason.   Justifying Roe versus Wade undergirds an argument, which supports extermination based solely on who and what is unwanted.

Ginsburg stated in her July 7, 2009, New York Times article, The Place of Women on the Court, that she was perplexed by the Harris v. McRay 1980 decision, which upheld the Hyde Amendment, forbidding Medicaid be used for abortions.  Did Ruth Bader Ginsburg believe that Medicaid would serve as a modern day gas chamber to divest the population of unwanted people groups in areas where women didn’t have the funds to acquire their own abortion?  Margaret Sanger would have been disappointed along with Justice Ginsberg.  Low-income areas, where African Americans lived, were where Sanger initially instituted Planned Parenthood clinics with the desired end to target a specific population.

Former unwanted persons, supporting the destruction of current unwanted people, is like Ruth Bader Ginsburg loading freight trains with her relatives for a trip to Auschwitz.  Ginsburg’s statement that being unwanted somehow validates the destruction of human beings, justifies Rwanda, Po Put’s Killing Fields, the destruction of the Kurds, the Nazi Holocaust against the Jews and the extermination of 50 million human beings since 1973.  If being “unwanted” is the criteria for the right-to-choose to eradicate someone, then Ginsburg bestowal of credibility on choice, whether it belongs to a dictator, society, nation or group serves to diminish the value of every living being based on the relative definition of those choices.

One glaring dichotomy Ginsburg seems to overlook by her determination to support abortion rights is that she places herself in the cross-hairs of being besieged herself.  Ginsburg drags a bio-hazard bag to the incinerator full of dead fetuses, in the name of choice, but might as well be sorting clothes that might contain her own at Buchenwald.

So while Ginsburg had the courage of her convictions and spoke the truth, the harsh veracity of her words indicates a reality that uncovers immoral, inhumane policies that are rooted in eugenics, Nazism and genocide.  Historically, atrocities have been justified as the riddance of unwanted people from the midst of a population for what were always considered valid reasons. What the Supreme Court Justice fails to recognize is that having an unwanted status as a human being and being slated for death by those who desire your elimination is wrong regardless of whether you are a Jew being killed in a concentration camp, or an unborn child being aborted because it is an inconvenient time for your mother to give birth.

If being unwanted justifies the annihilation of human beings, Ruth “Eugenia” Ginsburg should be well aware that history has proven all of us are in jeopardy of being targeted for death. Based on being unwanted, all our lives hang in the balance, including Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s whom may one day find herself victimized by an unwanted policy she ardently defended.

Cross posted at:  www.jeannie-ology.com


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another gem!..nt

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Monday, July 13th at 11:32PM EST (link)

These are fighting words...

jeannieology (Diary) Monday, July 13th at 11:45PM EST (link)

that need to be spoken for all our benefit!

Ginsburg's sentiment is pure evil - nt

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Thursday, July 16th at 8:32AM EST (link)

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“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson

 
 

Excellent Diary... Highly Reco'd -nt-

discerningconservative (Diary) Tuesday, July 14th at 12:02AM EST (link)
 

Fighting words, but necessary in this case

civil truth (Diary) Tuesday, July 14th at 12:33AM EST (link)

One of the few instances where a reference to the Nazis does not invoke Goodwin’s Law, because eugenics is exactly what the Nazi program was about.

Ginzburg needs to be confronted with the logic of her position, by denying intrinsic worth of humans, tears down the restraint that prevents government from exerting an absolute claim to decide who lives and who dies – and who does not even get to be born.

And if that involves logically identifying Ginzberg as an apologist for the Final Solution, that’s just a natural consequence.

She’s tearing down the protective fence that enables civilization itself to be possible.

The greatest evil…is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clean, carpeted, warmed, and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voice. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the offices of a thoroughly nasty business concern. -C.S. Lewis

http://www.gmsplace.com/

When the Issue is conscience not truth

avgamerican (Diary) Tuesday, July 14th at 1:10AM EST (link)

It is the revealing of “love will grow cold” as prophesied in 2 Timothy Chapter 3. Educated conscientious people who reject their conscience in the face of overwhelming fact because of pride. It never was about a woman’s right to choose nor the life of the mother. It was man inserting himself in place of God claiming whatever he will to his folly. You have captured the real divide here civil truth. It is not a question of legal philosophy, what the truth is, or what people really believe about abortion. It is only a question of what man chooses to do. Our job is to keep repeating the truth, so that those like Ruth Ginsburg will be forced to reject their conscience. Great job civil truth and I highly recommend your diary.

I can take credit only for my comment above

civil truth (Diary) Tuesday, July 14th at 1:45AM EST (link)

jeannieology is the author of this outstanding diary, and she has a tremendous talent for imetaphorical polemic, which is quite a rarity. Few in our modern age do it so well as she.

You should link to her diary or her blog site and read her other essays, if you’re not familiar with her writings.

The greatest evil…is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clean, carpeted, warmed, and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voice. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the offices of a thoroughly nasty business concern. -C.S. Lewis

http://www.gmsplace.com/

 
 
 

This may be a racist comment

Flagstaff (Diary) Tuesday, July 14th at 12:51AM EST (link)

technically, but it seems to me that Jews are inordinately high achievers. They have made tremendous contributions to mankind, far beyond their numbers. Maybe I’m wrong about that.

Maybe the desire to exterminate them is similar to the desire in some parts to destroy Sarah Palin’s career–fear of the competition.

“The press is so powerful in its image-making role that it can make a criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”– Malcolm X, Audubon Ballroom, December 13, 1964

Comparison of Arab and Jewish Nobel Prize Winners

izoneguy (Diary) Tuesday, July 14th at 1:40AM EST (link)

Arab/Islamic Nobel Prize Winners

From a pool of 1.4 BILLION Muslims which are 20% of the world’s population (2 out of every 10 people)

Jewish Nobel Prize Winners

From a pool of 12 million Jews which are 0.2% of the World’s Population (2 out of every 1,000 people)

After reviewing this list:

http://www.jewishmag.com/99mag/nobel/nobel.htm

can you supply a reason for the large discrepancy between the Arab/Islamic population’s contribution to the world body and that of the Jew? There are 165 Jews listed as opposed to 6 from the Arab side.

More info:

http://www.jinfo.org/

The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.

only the chosen get chosen? -nt

Alberta (Diary) Tuesday, July 14th at 3:20PM EST (link)

Sir, my concern is not whether God is on our side; my greatest concern is to be on God’s side, for God is always right.
Abraham Lincoln

 

I could only guess.

Flagstaff (Diary) Tuesday, July 14th at 3:39PM EST (link)

It’s an interesting statistic, if accurate. As one guess, it could be greatly due to demographic dispersion vs. demographic concentration. Cultural factors, too.

To be absolutely clear, I’m not suggesting anything associated with genetics.

“The press is so powerful in its image-making role that it can make a criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”– Malcolm X, Audubon Ballroom, December 13, 1964

I have heard this observation before re: "high achievers."

penguin2 (Diary) Tuesday, July 14th at 8:55PM EST (link)

Though I can’t name anything off the top of my head, I have in the past read about this same observation. It is talked about somewhere in the literature. One thought that has crossed my mind, is the idea about survival. Jewish people have been persecuted and oppressed for more than 2000yrs. There is also a tremendous cultural emphasis on education, perhaps there is a correlation between struggling to survive and intellectual strength. Not about genetics, but about a culture.

Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. – Benjamin Franklin
When Good stands up to Evil, Evil blinks. – Vassar Bushmills

Conservative Education: Suggested Reading List

Activists Taking Action: Unified Patriots

 

There are several great books on this matter, esp by Prager but

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Thursday, July 16th at 8:36AM EST (link)

it boils down to their attempt to comply with The Law of Moses and adaptation born of suffering that has made them so strong and great acheivers. Much of their suffering was caused by the envious around them.

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jeanieology, this is one of the best diaries I've ever had the pleasure to read!

mailloux (Diary) Tuesday, July 14th at 10:01AM EST (link)

Thank you for putting this together and thoroughly and mercilessly destroying the hateful and illogical term, “unwanted.”

Take Care,
mailloux

 

No offense

alabamaconservativeson Wednesday, July 15th at 10:56AM EST (link)

but you do know her comment on undesired people and abortion was about how that’s exactly the WRONG way to think about abortion, right? Not something she was espousing.

Btw comparing a Jewish person to Hitler might be the kind of thing that pisses off the 20% or so of Jewish people who vote conservative.

I’m a die-hard racist moby troll.

Ginsburg acknowledged...

jeannieology (Diary) Wednesday, July 15th at 11:04AM EST (link)

that the basis for the policy, she believed, was to address unwanted people…and she agreed and has supported the policy. She didn’t say that because of the premise she disagreed, did she?

In addition, whether you are Hitler, Sadaam Hussein or Planned Parenthood disposing of unwanted people is morally repugnant, dangerous and wrong.

No offense here…abortion offends me much, much more than your disagreeing with my piece.

 
 

By the Numbers Smear

livy Wednesday, July 15th at 4:03PM EST (link)

The information about Sanger is true and has been pointed out before. The remainder of the piece uses classic smear tactics used by the right and the left. Some of the leading methods include to 1) misquote, quote out of context or selective quote, 2) link with Hitler (preferably) or someone universally despised (Saddam Hussein will do in a pinch) and 3) guilt by association.

For example:

# 3: Margret Sanger supported eugenics. Margret Sanger supported abortion rights. Therefore anyone who supports abortion rights supports eugenics.

“Sir Francis Galton believed that if gifted people mated with gifted people their offspring would be measurably more talented” (not sure this makes him a believer in eugenics, but I will go along for the ride). Sir Francis Galton was Charles Darwin cousin. Charles Darwin believed in eugenics.

#2: “the Honorable Supreme Court Justice would have agreed with Hitler”

#1: See below, Ginsgurg was was attributing the sentiment “populations that we don’t want to have too many of” to others.

Q: If you were a lawyer again, what would you want to accomplish as a future feminist legal agenda?

JUSTICE GINSBURG: Reproductive choice has to be straightened out. There will never be a woman of means without choice anymore. That just seems to me so obvious. The states that had changed their abortion laws before Roe [to make abortion legal] are not going to change back. So we have a policy that affects only poor women, and it can never be otherwise, and I don’t know why this hasn’t been said more often.

Q: Are you talking about the distances women have to travel because in parts of the country, abortion is essentially unavailable, because there are so few doctors and clinics that do the procedure? And also, the lack of Medicaid for abortions for poor women?

JUSTICE GINSBURG: Yes, the ruling about that surprised me. [Harris v. McRae -- in 1980 the court upheld the Hyde Amendment, which forbids the use of Medicaid for abortions.] Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of. So that Roe was going to be then set up for Medicaid funding for abortion. Which some people felt would risk coercing women into having abortions when they didn’t really want them. But when the court decided McRae, the case came out the other way. And then I realized that my perception of it had been altogether wrong.

Before people support or defend anything...

jeannieology (Diary) Wednesday, July 15th at 7:57PM EST (link)

it would be a good idea to find out what they are supporting.

Regardless or whether Ginsburg desires to rid the planet of unwanted people…she thought that was the initial goal of the policy and still supported it.

There were many people who did not literally usher Jews into the showers but knew about it and approved of it were they any less culpable…I think not!

 
 

Rev. Jesse Jackson, Rev. Al Sharpton......

jackhammer Thursday, July 16th at 7:04AM EST (link)

“We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with
social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most
successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal.
We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro
population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if
it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.”

– Margaret Sanger’s December 19, 1939 letter to Dr. Clarence Gamble, 255
Adams Street, Milton, Massachusetts. Original source: Sophia Smith
Collection, Smith College, North Hampton, Massachusetts. Also described in
Linda Gordon’s Woman’s Body, Woman’s Right: A Social History of Birth
Control in America . New York: Grossman Publishers, 1976.

 

Ginsburg is old enough to have known Margaret Sanger

jyalai (Diary) Thursday, July 16th at 10:35AM EST (link)

I wouldn’t doubt she knows exactly why Planned Parenthood was founded.

Does anyone know enough of Ginsburg’s history to verify whether there was at least a minor influence by Sanger on Ginsburg?

I don't doubt it because she said...

jeannieology (Diary) Thursday, July 16th at 1:10PM EST (link)

that she believed that Sanger’s eugenics was the original purpose and that not funding low income abortions not being funded surprised her because she thought that was the original intent of Roe v Wade

 
 

Enter - Health Care

spreadthered (Diary) Thursday, July 16th at 6:12PM EST (link)

If at first you fail, try and try again….enter…health care.

Abortion didn’t work to slow or stop the population of the “unwanted people” so now it’s health care, this way, they can deny deny deny…..

Health Care/Abortion

jeannieology (Diary) Thursday, July 16th at 8:20PM EST (link)

http://www.redstate.com/jd11756/2009/07/16/stopping-a-beating-heartwithin-pay-grades/

 
 

Ghost of M. Sanger

lukematthews (Diary) Thursday, July 16th at 7:27PM EST (link)

She is just the right age for that horrible mindset to be considered appropriate. That is, once again, the problem with the collectivist mind. It doesn’t see people, it sees groups of people. Groups of people are easy to demonize or degrade. Individuals are not as easy to toss aside. It is fruit of that poisonous mindset which makes people a collection of labels instead of growing, vibrant, hurting sapients.

Great post. Thanks.

 

Words fail me

hharrison91 Thursday, July 16th at 8:33PM EST (link)

Amazing how the loons on the left are thought to be seeking the best of all…sheeple if this doesn’t convince you NOTHING WILL!