I think the thinking has permeated many many many people to some degree though.

I agree with you though! I was telling a (Clinton type of democrat) friend about RS, to get on he wouldn’t be a troll he is well read and respectable, has raised himself up into a rich man from his own business (why he is a democrat I don’t know), he was like what would you as a single mother have to do witht he republican party, he said they are all interested (dems and republicans in mainting the status quo but at least the democrats will through crumsb at you, I said that is the difference, people are humams that should be free to republicans (I guess I should have said conservatives LOL) they do not identify people’s worth or utility by marital status or socioeconomic level.

You know one thing that REALLY upsets me is they are ignoring some of the AMAZING character traits of many people that live there. I’ve seen it, the great amount of female human resources young women there have, the amount of resiliance many have, the problem solving, the amazing grandmothes that raise very young children and do work they shouldn’t have to be do at their age age, it really upsets me the way that is ignored. Besides the whole thing being degrading they have no idea the strengths of the people.

People that never lived with others and/or in a not great area don’t appreciate just having an apartment to yourself in a safe area! It’s so funny people are always like did you just move in! LOL I never think about things like a lot of furniture for a long time I didn’t know what they were talking about until I saw some other people’s houses.I think it makes you appreciate just having your own place more.

not many of them anyway. And even the ones you were able to teach would be very reluctant to let any of their peers know that they’d learned to read. I have no doubt that you could teach them, so could I, preferably from McGuffey’s, but you can’t make them accept that teaching. It is bad enough in white culture and is simply terrible in black culture that any effort to learn stigmatizes the kid as a “Brainer.” Stupid and ignorant are cool. Stupid, ignorant, and violent are really, reallly cool. It is far more important to be cool than to know how to read.

I just got through fighting this with my three stepkids all the way through from late gradeschool through high school and even on into college with the two that went. The youngest didn’t even make it through one semester in college, dismissing it all as “dumb” and useless and dropping out to lay around with his drunken doper friends until that finally got him in trouble and he had to straighten out and since his savings from the Army were getting low actually going to work when he couldn’t beg money out of his mother. Even the oldest who actually made it through college did as little as possible so as to always appear cool and unconcerned; wouldn’t want anyone to think you actually cared about your studies.

Both the youngest son and the middle daughter were perfectly able to make good grades. We pressured them and helped them as much as they’d accept – and then some sometimes. My wife however was a complete sucker for any lie or excuse that they could come up with, and the daughter, especially, was VERY capable of lying and blaming. Both of them just chose not to try and both had an unerring sense, as acute as a salmon swimming upstream, for the shallow end of the gene pool. If there was a screw-up or degenerate anywhere near, they’d find him or her and want to hang with them.

Between popular culture and left wing educators, your kids aren’t yours the minute they walk into a public school and like water, they all too often seek the lowest level.

The change does have to come from the inside, but it is from a place where I can’t go.

The change comes from the inside of a culture, the inside of a race, and the inside of a person. No matter how I want to, no matter how hard I try, I can’t go there. Until that change is made, all I do is throw time and money away.

I guess that is my whole point.

with materials from the library or a vendor or heck even the internet.I went through this before with the DC voucher threads, nobody on here agrees with me. There are plenty of independent curriculums. Once a child can read there isn’t anything outside of professional or vocational school they can’t learn independently.

I agree about the illiteracy problem. I’ve said a lot on here before the republican leaders should volunteer to tutor and encourage everyone else too. The easy and very quick solution to illiteracy is intensive phonics.

has worked for us for 19 years (with 2 or 3 to go!) I have also seen tremendous dedication among teachers who are sacrificing quite a bit under the conviction that any movement they can make on the illiteracy front, both in private and public schools, is significant and far better than none at all. Some of these came in from the pleasant places, others grew up here under the influence of pioneers in my generation. In our tiny church alone I have also seen a high percentage of non-teachers make themselves available for tutoring, as well as guide us into the process of establishing a street school for at-risk kids. Oh and did I mention the after-school clubs which have we have run for decades, which now have some members whose parents attended, and of which some former members one runs into on the street eager to talk about their own current employment or further education?

Was a first-generation Puerto-Rican immigrant to the US, and knew only rudimentary English when she started homeschooling myself and my sister, nut she did a better job teaching us English than elementary school teachers apparently did with their pupils. It really doesn’t take much beyond dedication and a willingness to learn with your kids.

I will not be sending my kids to public school if I can help it. Homeschool or a Catholic/Christian school for me, because the curriculum they teach in NOVA public schools has become chalk full of BS that cause kids mentality to move towards Government dependency and liberal ideals, I forget what they call the math curriculum, but it doesn’t even teach multiplication tables.

I do not know what will work in the cities anymore, all I know is that people like you are trying to change things, but we need more. Right now, for everyone of you there are a few others that are the opposite and do it for the paycheck. So, I hope you continue to make a difference in the city schools, I will try to make sure my kids (soon to be born) know that when push comes to shove you need how to take care of yourself because no Government will be solve your problems.

There is not one of us who would not stop and be the “good Samaritan.” But something is broken, when the billions of dollars in aid we have given, have not helped but hindered, and enabled corruption to continue to perpetuate the evil that preys upon these people lives.