Kathleen Parker the devil we know taking on a GOD she doesn’t (UPDATE)


There are places for people like Kathleen unfortunately the fine people here won't be there to see it!

I can never quite stress enough as not being part of the Religious Right how very offensive I find those who attempt to demean and degrade those who are.

GOD is not the problem Kathleen, hate, envy, jealousy are. 92 percent of Americans believe in GOD Kathleen , did you know that?

Kathleen Parker has a most unusual HATE for those who openingly acknowledge their GOD and their religion and I for one am puzzled by that. I suspect it comes in the form of jealousy or envy for those who exalt in their religion being the happiest people I know. I suspect she is quite hollow in her soul and as such feels the need to demean others to prop up her ego. I for one have enjoyed National Review over the years as a conservative and I suspect Kathleen Parker knows her days are limited and she needs another outlet. She has most assuredly found such a place at the Washington Post. I do know that she is probably ignorant of the fact that the Post is going to be going away much more quickly as they cannot seem to keep up their readership…PITY THAT (NOT)

Only 635K people will read your tripe Kathleen out of a country of 300 million…think about that!

Now as for the Republican Party WE are three legs of a stool and anyone who says otherwise can join another party. WE will win back what has been lost by sticking to the tried and true. Small government, less taxes, GREAT defense AKA the best damn MILITARY in the UNIVERSE, and social issue’s such as abortion BACK TO THE STATES! WE are a party of three and will win with all three BUT we cannot kick a leg of the stool out or WE shall surely be a minority for decades to come!

UPDATE

I said I would come back and update this story on Kathleen Parker and seeing her name in Newsbusters today reminded me of the call I wanted to make…

She is simply a very sad and pathetic individual and I would suggest she make the little leap over to her true roots of liberalism and stop calling herself a CONSERVATIVE

When I wrote this post I had spoken with Jack Fowler over at National Review and he said at that time they would be taking a look at all who grace their pages and National Review on-line. I just followed up with him and he said “Kathleen Parker has NEVER been an employee of nor paid by National Review that NRO plucked 6-7 of her articles as they have with Krauthhammer”

He assured that they ARE MAKING THIS CUT TO PUTTING HER OP-EDs on NRO…..that he has heard an earful over this woman.

so that was what I waiting for to update this post and there you have it. The National Review folks are not in the business of going out of business on one little TART who dismisses the very BASE of their readership!


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Kathleen Parker is a self-righteous

c17wife (Diary) Wednesday, November 19th at 1:51PM EST (link)

B#t#h and I have had about enough of her.
Correct me if I am wrong here. Those of us that worship the one true GOD came out and voted. In large part of Sarah palin. IIRC, it was those that were pissed off about JSM’s support of the bailout that stayed home.
Thank you, Jonah, for calling the harpy out today.

Duty is ours, outcomes belong to God.~Mike Pence

 

geat defense?

redalert (Diary) Wednesday, November 19th at 1:51PM EST (link)

Hey,Jaded,I like your diary,as usual. However,you have a typo in the last paragraph. It’s not clear if you’re trying to say “great” defense. Right now it says “geat” defense.

Hey redalert check it out again and see if you like the upgrade!

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Wednesday, November 19th at 2:02PM EST (link)

Yes!

redalert (Diary) Wednesday, November 19th at 2:16PM EST (link)

LOVE the upgrade and agree with the comment 100%. Keep up the good work.

 
 
 

so absolutely correct, Jaded

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Wednesday, November 19th at 2:26PM EST (link)

I don’t know when this woman decided to take a long walk off the short pier of sanity, but she went 100% flake over Sarah Palin.

And like alot of people with her viewpoint vis a vis SoCons, she is completely irrational if she thinks there is even a PARTY without the SoCons.

Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
Punch the Hippies h/t IMAO

 

Someone should tell Ms. Parker

Darin_H (Diary) Wednesday, November 19th at 2:29PM EST (link)

that bigotry is unbecoming.

A visionary coward says that anger can be power, as long as there’s a victim on TV – Flat Top, Goo Goo Dolls

Well EPU as gamecock says there is more to come!

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Wednesday, November 19th at 3:46PM EST (link)

I had a very interesting conversation today with someone I cannot name today however If it goes as I was told I will update this post at the end of this month!

MORE TO BE REVEALED!!!!

:interest piqued:

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Wednesday, November 19th at 4:02PM EST (link)

Such a tease, Jaded….

Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
Punch the Hippies h/t IMAO

Amen to that, Darin. n/t

c17wife (Diary) Wednesday, November 19th at 4:34PM EST (link)

n/t

Duty is ours, outcomes belong to God.~Mike Pence

 
 
 
 

I hope the National Review Fire's Kathleen Parker!

DavidS1787 (Diary) Wednesday, November 19th at 5:31PM EST (link)

Well look at it this way David IF they don't fire her....

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Wednesday, November 19th at 11:01PM EST (link)

they might as well fold up their tents and go home because whether they like it or not the Religious Right is a huge portion of the base of conservatism…..and I don’t think the other legs of the stool appreciate their brothers-in-arms being demeaned or belittled and being part of both the fiscon and neocon portion I can speak to that…..my conservative friends run the gamut of all three and I love and respect them all AND WE ARE ALL CONSERVATIVES…..not a MUSHY MIDDLE MODERATE amongst us! and NOT a religion hating one amongst us either.

I may not have a religion but I have a GOD and he blesses me every morning upon wakening!

Parker keeps me away from NRO...

RborisT (Diary) Wednesday, November 19th at 11:53PM EST (link)

If they start to go THAT way, I will go AWAY!

Another good post Jaded!

 
 
 

Great post Jaded! Love the Three Legged Stool Reference

Whitehorse (Diary) Thursday, November 20th at 12:28AM EST (link)

That has been my drumbeat. Social conservative issues win at the ballot box much more than the lose, & the work better in one’s life. We look at the SSM votes because they’re in the news, however many anti-second amendment proposals went down in flames on Nov. 4. For those who say we need to water down social values, I say wrong & the data demonstrate these are winning issues.

We’ve railed against the big government proposals from the Bush Administration & will continue to rail against them in the Obama Adm. What we have to do is communicate to our leaders the critical need to reclaim limited government fiscally responsible conservatism, because that is what has been missing & reclaiming it will be the key to winning & actually putting in good policies for our country.

 

Is anyone still reading National Review?

Hermes (Diary) Thursday, November 20th at 12:31AM EST (link)

I canceled my subscription back in 2003. With a very few exceptions, the regulars at NR and NRO have become intellectually vapid, toe the line Washington-insiders. Many times in the past few years, I have pulled up NRO, then The New Republic’s homepage and compared the content; the results were disappointing, but hardly surprising. Like TNR, NRO is far too establishment and far too attracted to K-street and the Washington circuit. Take them with the proverbial grain of salt.

 

I posted this in the comments on Townhall...

Shawn Gillogly (Diary) Thursday, November 20th at 6:18AM EST (link)

Subject: I’m not buying the National Review.
My wife offered today to buy me a subscription for the coming year to your magazine.

I refused.

The reason I refused is the bigotry evident in Kathleen Parker’s writing. It’s bad enough that in the “age of tolerance” the only politically correct group that the left is allowed to be bigoted against is Evangelical Christianity.

But to have someone writing for your once proud magazine who parrots this bigotry by calling those she has issues with “low brow” and then claiming to be a martyr for insulting the education of people she does not know is not journalistic integrity. It is pandering to the opposition. It is support for discriminatory practices. It is simply Un-American.

That Kathleen Parker has chosen to support the RINOs is not the issue. The fact that this article is manifestly wrong on every point, as I pointed out in my blog on Redstate, is also not the issue. The issue is that in the process of trying to drum the Social Conservatives out of the party, so she can preside over another thumping with the RINOs who would be left behind, she will stop at nothing and stoop to any level. Including insulting the intelligence of people she’s never met. Including bigotry of the meanest and lowest stereotypes.

I don’t know whether I am more intelligent than Kathleen Parker; although I have an earned Masters and have learned 5 languages, including the two primary Biblical languages. I do know that Wisdom is evidences by deeds. And the deeds of this individual are the epitome of Churchill’s “unwisdom.”

I will not subscribe to the National Review as long as Kathleen Parker contributes to it. And I call on Townhall and any other Conservative site to end the facade of supporting RINOs who will insult their fellow conservatives to get ahead.

Most Sincerely,
Shawn W Gillogly

“Liberals are always talking about pluralism, but that is not what they mean. In public school, Jews don’t meet Christians. Christians don’t meet Hindus. Everybody meets nothing.”- Dennis Prager

 

This proud member of the Religious Right

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Thursday, November 20th at 8:33AM EST (link)

thanks you from the heart for this.

Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson

Well gamecock I would consider you one of those..

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Thursday, November 20th at 9:03AM EST (link)

Religious Right Conservative friends I talk about :-)

Friends make a comfortable fit!

The motto of my undergraduate alma mater

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Thursday, November 20th at 9:17AM EST (link)

Wofford College in Spartanburg, SC is

Let the Big Dawg eat!

thanks gal

Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson

I think she's gone from NRO post-election

tsil (Diary) Thursday, November 20th at 10:08AM EST (link)

I recall reading a Kathryn Jean Lopez post after her first anti-Palin column, where she indicated that they would run her stuff until the election, but then be gone after.

 
 
 
 

a link from NRO website of current NRO Authors

pilgrim (Diary) Thursday, November 20th at 10:27AM EST (link)

NRO Authors

I see David Frum and Cosmo, but I do not see Kathleen Parker on this list.


Activists Taking Action: Unified Patriots

Blue dog democrat victories support your claim

JSobieski (Diary) Thursday, November 20th at 10:51AM EST (link)

In swing districts, Blue Dog Dems are pro-life, pro-gun, and pro-marriage.

They also tend to be pro-middle class tax cuts.

Many are anti-free trade.

I am not suggesting that Republicans ditch the economic leg of the stool, but as a 3-legged conservative I feel compelled to point out that the economic leg has the least popular support.

A lot of Reagan democrats didn’t particularly agree with Reagan economic policies, but the country was doing so badly, they figured he couldn’t make things worse.

My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.

STOP THE MADNESS!

A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!

 
 

God isn't the problem

DL80 Thursday, November 20th at 12:34PM EST (link)

I’m a liberal, and an atheist, and yet I still agree with the basic premise of this diary. I don’t think God, or mentions of God, are a problem for Republicans. I tend to think it has much more to do with the economic points of the party, and I don’t think the Republican Party is somehow mortally damaged. It needs to make some clear choices on economics, but both parties have shown the ability to adapt in the past.

More to the point, even as an atheist, I wasn’t comfortable with Parker’s flippant tone about religion. My own views on religion have taken years to develop, and nothing about them is flippant, so I am offended when someone insinuates that people who are religious are somehow cavalierly choosing to believe.

I think Democrats (of which I am one) also need to be very careful not to start believing that all liberals are atheists, or they won’t be in power very long. Most Democrats believe in God, as well.

Well DL80 appreciate the honesty....and you are correct..

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Thursday, November 20th at 1:54PM EST (link)

those who belittle a large majority of people based on their religion end up being nothing more than a footnote in history. I wonder does Kathleen have an issue with Islam? I mean they are proud of their religion and voted in the majority for Obama…..are they stupid people as well? I suspect Kathleen does not have the kahuna’s to go after any other religion except evangelicals.

I hope that Kathleen is aware she is NOT part of the Republican Party BUT party to the hate that the left generates….look in the mirror honey you are nothing but a bitter old bittie who wants to run with the kewl kids….BUT they won’t accept you either!

Kathleen Parker LOSER!

 
 

I've coined a new phrase

kowalski (Diary) Thursday, November 20th at 3:24PM EST (link)

For Kathleen Parker and her acolytes: “Battered Republican Syndrome.”

As someone who has suffered from it in the past, the symptoms are evidenced whenever you lose an election and pounce reflexively on the people who have supported you for a long, long time and who don’t deserve the abuse.

Parker does it because she’s surrounded by liberal commentators who have been bludgeoning her for the past two weeks about what the election “really meant.” Combine that with the fact that she’d probably rather be metropolitan and cosmopolitan (meaning Christian with a C so small you can’t see it) and then lump in the electoral defeat and it didn’t take much to give her a nosebleed and make her identify with her captors.

So she has Stockholm Syndrome, then?

1SGinTN (Diary) Thursday, November 20th at 3:35PM EST (link)

nt

Tu Ne Cede Malis
-Virgil

more like

kyle8 (Diary) Thursday, November 20th at 3:35PM EST (link)

Battered and fried, as in her brains.

“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle

The religious base of this party

kowalski (Diary) Thursday, November 20th at 3:35PM EST (link)

Is not to blame for Kathleen Parker’s problems, in other words — they’re her scapegoat.

One of the easiest and most juvenile things in the world that anyone can do when they’re disappointed is to find a cohort of their “in” group and haul them out in front of people as the blameworthy, cast them into the pit as being primarily responsible for all their troubles.

The thing is that Kathleen isn’t just transparently juvenile she’s also wrong. The religious base of the Republican party, the people who go to church and donate to their charities and their legislators, are not the problem with the Republican Party. People like her are.

I think so

kowalski (Diary) Thursday, November 20th at 3:39PM EST (link)

I think that’s one of the more charitable readings of her editorial. If not, she’s just deranged. The Conservative and religious base of this party is not part of the problem, it’s just that Kathleen really has switched sides (at least temporarily) because she’s been hammered by the loss.

And I say that

kowalski (Diary) Thursday, November 20th at 3:54PM EST (link)

As a self-described “moderate” Republican who doesn’t always agree with the most Conservative members of this Party, but who has learned a lot from them here on this website. I respect them deeply, and I know they’re not the reason why we lost this election, particularly not because of their emphasis on G-O-D. Parker sounds like a 12 year old who just learned that her science teacher is also an atheist and the faculty member who runs the Key Club.

Kathleen says she wants to make religious belief a “matter of the heart” but that’s just not possible in a country where people’s convictions matter — and matter politically. She wants the easy way out, the way that says: “all of this is just a matter of values, interchangeable with each other, and certainly not worth losing an election over.”

So she’s either a Stockholm Syndrome victim, a closet Democrat, or an intellectual lightweight. Probably all three, I would say.

I have my disputes with people who are bonafide SoCons in this party but you’d better believe I respect them and think we’re better of having them on our side.

There are Moderates and there are backstabbers

David123 (Diary) Thursday, November 20th at 6:36PM EST (link)

Some people call Rudy Giullianni a moderate because he is pro-choice on abortion. However, he doesn’t trash pro-life Republicans. He supported the McCain-Palin ticket and he directed his criticism at Democrats.

I think that is the key to the three legs of the stool getting along. You might not agree with everything every other leg does, but you respect them, you don’t trash them, and you focus on what you have in common not your differences.

Ms. Parker trashed Governor Palin and now, other religious conservatives. That was uncalled for, and stupid – unless she WANTED Barack Obama to be president. And I don’t see how any conservative [or any informed person] could want Obama to be president.

David123

 
 
 
 
 
 
 

I am hijacking my own diary to post Michael Steele's OFFICIAL site for his run for the Chairmanship of the RNC!

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Thursday, November 20th at 6:43PM EST (link)

If you support him please sign and just so you know it is preliminary and will change and grow BUT be one of the first to sign up in it’s infancy :-)

Proud Catholic PROLIFE candidate for RNC Chief….SO TAKE THAT Kathleen Parker!

EXACTLY!

kyle8 (Diary) Thursday, November 20th at 6:51PM EST (link)

One does not have to follow the party line on every issue. One can even be a “moderate” but you cannot be a part of the party and then actively work against them more than say once in a career.

Anymore than that and you are just an untrustworthy scoundrel. (I’m Looking at you Lindsey!)

“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle

 
 

Well done.

Lords86 (Diary) Thursday, November 20th at 7:08PM EST (link)

Well thought out criticism of Ms. Parker.

You know kowalski it cannot be the loss of the election...

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Thursday, November 20th at 7:29PM EST (link)

because she started her trip against the Republican Party immediately after the Palin pick…..it is literally a visceral envy, jealousy, horror at an accomplished woman who CHOSE to have a child she knew would have down’s syndrome….and yet all of us having seen Trig know what a joy he is to that accomplished woman who CHOSE to have him. The power of Palin and her religion is that she walked her talk and that is just unacceptable to the 95 corridor folks who live in medialand! and Achance there is not a “idol” concept of Palin it is a respect for living a life that women have worked for and that NOW and the Parkers of the world will never get….she made something of herself, loves her country and her God and her family and they are a team as a family should be and that is what makes her special!

Sarah is most correct in that Trig will teach her more than she will ever teach him.

Beauty personified

That little baby in that picture sure causes heartburn for liberals and elite Rockefeller Republicans and would horrify Margaret Sanger and Hitler….think about that for a moment!

Yes, well Frum does the same thing

Shawn Gillogly (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 2:22AM EST (link)

He’s just not “quite” as self-righteous about it when he does it.

He’s still backstabbing the party and trying to cut the SoCon leg out.

“Liberals are always talking about pluralism, but that is not what they mean. In public school, Jews don’t meet Christians. Christians don’t meet Hindus. Everybody meets nothing.”- Dennis Prager

 
 
 

Her artilce appears to be a bold bid

Joe Cor (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 12:16PM EST (link)

to earn a coveted “Strange New Repect” award that leftist elites hand out for such conservative apostasy.

Social conservatism can be a winner, but only with candidates who speak with moral confidence on the issue. But Bush/McCain/(and I’m afraid)Palin Republicans act like they have something to be embarrassed about when it comes to social issues. If they confidently challenged Democrats and the media on them, they could be a winner.

 

Highly Recommended...with a hearty, "YOU GO GIRL"!

AceInTX (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 12:58PM EST (link)

I thought I’d done it earlier but must have forgotten to hit the second button…

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson

Thanks ace! you put me up to the tippy top :-)

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 1:22PM EST (link)

You knowq, Jaded, if I was really, really mean....

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 1:26PM EST (link)

;o)

Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
Punch the Hippies h/t IMAO

You know EPU I put up that six million dollar man video for you...

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 2:32PM EST (link)

over at the open thread….I don’t think your bionic body would let you be mean
:-0

Never, never would

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 3:15PM EST (link)

Hey seriously, mucho congrats on hitting #1. You deserve credit for a growing body of great work.

Hey if you hit Bob’s (streetwise) radio show this weekend, I might be there. Depends on when it is.

Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
Punch the Hippies h/t IMAO

 
 
 
 
 

Jaded...sorry to be so late to the game...

Attack Mode (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 3:25PM EST (link)

I hadn’t recommended yet because I hadn’t read the Parker article yet…now I have done both. One passage caught my attention and I want to address it:

But they need those votes!

So it has been for the Grand Old Party since the 1980s or so, as it has become increasingly beholden to an element that used to be relegated to wooden crates on street corners.

Short break as writer ties blindfold and smokes her last cigarette.

Which is to say, the GOP has surrendered its high ground to its lowest brows.

The first portion in bold; I may be wrong here but my understanding is that the use of the soapbox for speeches originated from not being allowed to speak out against the Crown while standing on British soil. Seems odd that Kathy would want to relegate Christian Conservatives back to that status of enemy of the state. I am sure Kathy would love to get rid of that pesky 1st Amendment for those who are not in the press.

The second portion in bold; Hey Kathy, did you really just call Christian Conservatives low brows, as in Neanderthals? Really? How do you expect to be taken seriously with comments such as that.

Oh well, I guess I should be happy that you have exposed yourself as nothing more than an anti-Christian, anti-Free speech hack of the highest proportions.

Oh and well done Jaded!!!

“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper” Peter Griffin…Family Guy

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.

I intend to hit that radio show....just waiting for instructions!

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 4:29PM EST (link)

Hey...congrats on the #1

AceInTX (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 6:16PM EST (link)

nt

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson
 
 
 

Not sure about KatPa's experience,

vernonia Saturday, November 22nd at 10:59AM EST (link)

…but I didn’t see McCain or most of the fallen GOP lawmakers thumping Bibles on the stump this fall.

Fatigue among the general electorate for prolonged military engagement overseas, large federal deficits, a popped housing bubble and tanking stock market led the electorate to switch brands.

Sen McCain and Gov. Palin didn’t offer compelling answers to any of these problems–they didn’t explicitly describe how they would alter our present path.

Instead, McCain said almost nothing, and Palin focused mainly on cultural differences between “us and them”.

KatPa thinks this small-town/big-town, folksy/cosmopolitan, common sense/high-minded idealism “us and them” argument has something to do with God. I agree with Parker that it’s a campaign strategy the GOP should dump, but Parker is entirely mistaken that it’s all about God.

Dave Ramsey in 2012!

I disagree vernonia that the us against them...

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Saturday, November 22nd at 2:02PM EST (link)

should be “dumped”….it is literally a large swath of the population who are not Harvard and or Yale educated BUT who are extremely smart because of their life experience being put down and put upon by those who somehow in their small brains look down on the masses.

They assume they know better and they act on those assumptions….flyover country and small pockets of the coasts NEED to know about those who would throw them in a river and drown them if it meant their survival against those who would pluck them out of the river and stand with them until all was well. IT IS US AGAINST THEM!

The societies that have fallen by the wayside have always been taken in and over by the intelligensia who knew better and than they of course are the first ones eliminated by the powers that be….BUT it always starts with those whose beliefs are that where they went to college and what they learned there somehow places them above the rest of us. I SAY THEY ARE SOME OF THE MOST STUPID PEOPLE THAT WALK THE EARTH.

It is this explanation in a 30 second soundbite that will sell the Conservative brand….BUT I suspect 4 years of liberalism will cure it even quicker!

The Elite...

DONTREADONME (Diary) Saturday, November 22nd at 2:34PM EST (link)

Why do the elite and super-duper intelligent type people flock to centralized or socialist type mentatilities? It is easy, because they know more than everyone else. Folks, when someone acts this way they are already emulating a central planning form of Government. Give me the religious right anyday over the “so smart they are stupid” ones.

Jaded, DTOM, and commoners everywhere

vernonia Saturday, November 22nd at 4:01PM EST (link)

I agree that our lefty betters aren’t happy about the free choices made daily by millions of Americans. Liberal know-it-alls are ever-ready to repeal the benighted choices of the marketplace and insert their own enlightened choices. There is no doubt about this. But should we sneer at their “learning”?

A good education was once every American’s ticket out of the dark, satanic mills of the Industrial Revolution. An Ivy League education would be a dream come true for many American families, still. Education is the ticket to realizing hopes, dreams, and opportunities. Why denigrate it?

I like Randy Travis (“Better Class of Losers”), Aaron Tippin (“I Got It Honest”), and most Toby Keith tunes, and my wife and I grow and sell produce for half of our income, but I wouldn’t run for office suggesting educated people can’t be trusted.

The Republican Party must be the party of bold ideas. Revolutionary ideas for curbing the influence of the state. Compelling ideas for rolling back the welfare rolls. Creative ideas for cutting health care costs. Challenging ideas for promoting greater opportunity in our urban centers. Such ideas are out there, but few Republicans run on them anymore…

Dave Ramsey in 2012!

Steal their language...

vernonia Saturday, November 22nd at 4:19PM EST (link)

…like they stole ours.

Clinton called spending, “investments”, and taxes, “contributions”.

They have re-defined “rights” to include food, shelter, education, medical care, a rewarding career, and a spouse who listens and really understands. (Some debate continues on the right to party championed by the Beastie Boys.)

The language has been hijacked by the Left, and we should re-re-define their words to advance our cause. That’s usin’ the old bean.

Dave Ramsey in 2012!

 
 
 
 
 

It's more than just envy

Greg (Diary) Saturday, November 22nd at 6:09PM EST (link)

Kathleen Parker has a most unusual HATE for those who openingly acknowledge their GOD and their religion and I for one am puzzled by that.

I don’t know Kathleen Parker. In fact, before she took out after Sarah Palin, I’d never heard of Parker. It’s difficult to determine what motivates her distain for religion, and distain it is. I suspect it has something to do with guilt, and something in her life that she doesn’t want God telling her to bring under his lordship. Rebellion is the original sin. Someone doesn’t have the visceral kind of reaction to faith and God, and those who by faith are devoted to God, that KP has unless there are some “issues” in her life. I don’t know what they are, so I’m not standing in judgment. But it’s pretty clear that her animous toward God and Christians is something personal, not intellectual.

“The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of the Conservatives is to prevent the mistakes from being corrected.” — Chesterton

Liberalism is their own religion

Greg (Diary) Saturday, November 22nd at 6:15PM EST (link)

Liberal know-it-alls are ever-ready to repeal the benighted choices of the marketplace and insert their own enlightened choices.

We used to live in a liberal university town, until we got tired of the people’s arrogance. I’ve never met a liberal who didn’t think that they owed it to others to share their viewpoints.

They are self-righteous, mainly because to them their liberal views are elevated to the level of religious dogma. They are pushy and domineering in their “evangelistic” fervor. And, of course, they believe that anyone who disagrees with them is a heretic, and like any heretic, deserves to be burned at the stake (metaphorically speaking).

“The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of the Conservatives is to prevent the mistakes from being corrected.” — Chesterton

I agree and...

DONTREADONME (Diary) Saturday, November 22nd at 6:21PM EST (link)

Need revolutionary ideas; however, I think sometimes the Republican elite can seem down-right condescending. I think the Republicans need to understand that the commoners or the simple-life and straight talk folks who live in the country and suburbs are the base. These individuals do not like to feel taken for granted and they especially do not trust people whom they see as elite big-city patrons.

I do not know what the right strategy is, but the small town people, midwesterners and southerners need to be captured if a Republican wants a chance of winning elections.

One last thing is, the voters I have just spoke about are do-it-yourself type people for the most part, as such their expectation of the Governments role in and contributions to their life is minimal. So, as long as you do not drastically interfere in their day to day life, or if you shrink the Feds influence they will be happy. It is the voters that want something from the Government which are going to be angry with their elected leaders when they do not deliver.

 
 
 

I am sick of this

jeffreywturner (Diary) Saturday, November 22nd at 8:26PM EST (link)

Can we copyright the names “Republican” or “Conservative” so that we can somehow stop these limousine liberals from calling themselves by these names and tanishing them for real conservatives?

I mean it, I am sick of this. The media would not go to Zell Miller or Ben Nelson to get the Democratic / Liberal point of view on things, why do we let them get away with going to elitist feminazis and manhattanites to speak for conservatives or the GOP?

I want any person who ever interviews someone like Parker, or calls into a show where she is a guest, to force her into saying why she is a conservative, in other words, force her hand and make her admit that she really is in favor of liberal values, and hates women who are not.

“Life is too short, can’t we all just eat pork and kill some terrorists?”

 

Who cares what KParker thinks about anything?

Diogenes314 (Diary) Sunday, November 23rd at 3:03AM EST (link)

**It’s not like anybody cares what she says or reads her rag. Now if this moron was a former governor and recent (and possible future) presidential candidate with her own show on FoxNews, maybe her attempts to distract and divide the GOP would rate the hysteria.

Enjoy your 15 minutes of fame, Kathleen. I’ve forgotten about you already.**

Perhaps this was KatPa's point, DTOM

vernonia Sunday, November 23rd at 5:11AM EST (link)

The GOP must be the party of soccer moms, NASCAR dads, small business owners, and (in Bill Clinton’s memorable phrase) “everyone who works hard and plays by the rules”.

The focus on cultural distinctions (small town/big town, black liberation theolgy/pentecostalism, etc.) in this election did not draw out the suburban votes the GOP needs.

So, moving forward, what will?

Dave Ramsey in 2012!

Sorry, you folks are over-reading this...

dbecraft Sunday, November 23rd at 5:24AM EST (link)

Most of the “common” folk want honesty and limited federal government. Please don’t try to imitate the Democrats!

Really, it is not IDEAS that change minds..it is honesty and statesmanship. The latter is not as important but it would move mountains when their combined.

Most want to be just left alone and think about the government once a year. Until the GOP begins to think different than the Democrat Party (POWER), then things will not change.

I might add that if they do continue on their quest to be better than the democrats, well there is always the Constitution Party…

Formally known as Deagle… “Golf is a way of life…”

make that the're combined

dbecraft Sunday, November 23rd at 5:25AM EST (link)

Formally known as Deagle… “Golf is a way of life…”

Oddly, TUPPENCE...

vernonia Sunday, November 23rd at 5:32AM EST (link)

…liberal do-gooders believe quite the same about small-town evangelicals.

While I agree pushy liberal activists are usually just out on great ego trips (and often, the smaller the relative stakes, the greater the trip), these same folks are beside themselves with conservative fervor for “social issues”.

“Yes,” you say, “but my issues are important to the preservation of society.”

But isn’t that just what the liberals would say about their causes?

Why are we and they so much alike?

Dave Ramsey in 2012!

Heh, Sounds like you are an unusual case....

dbecraft Sunday, November 23rd at 5:43AM EST (link)

Conservatives (yes, even religious ones) tend to keep to themselves.

Now Liberals, mercy, try just playing golf with them – attempting to ignore them requires turning the other cheek (heh – I’m sure you have heard that one).

Actually, I think you are exaggerating way too much and really don’t have much experience with what you are proclaiming.

I do think that it was a normal response of a liberal to a semi-conservative comment though…

Formally known as Deagle… “Golf is a way of life…”

Nah, Deagle...

vernonia Sunday, November 23rd at 5:52AM EST (link)

“Tastes great, less filling”

“You deserve a break today”

“Like a Rock”

“F-R-E-E, that spells free…”

When selling products, you need to have something people can repeat to their friends. Right now the GOP has no message to repeat around the lunch table.

President Bush played the “honesty” card until he wore a hole in it. And still, bit by bit, Americans began to trust him less and less. Without firm ideas he was committed to and expressed often, nobody knows what the President really believes about a broad range of issues.

Obama’s overly-cautious campaign of “hope” without clear ideas will likewise fade if he doesn’t express real conviction.

Dave Ramsey in 2012!

Well, maybe you have become too jaded to

dbecraft Sunday, November 23rd at 6:08AM EST (link)

believe in honesty. Sorry, but I also have become jaded with the GOP after 50 years or so.

I have seen too many politicians (both sides) and have yet to see more than a hand full that I considered “honest”. If they are not honest, what can you expect from their governance?

And No, Bush was not an honest politician regardless of his proclamations. His actions betrayed his words (if he stated them).

If you actually want good government, honesty has to be a basic part of it. Can you actually name any honest politicians today? I can’t…

Looking back at our history, I can say that we not only had statesmen but honest statesmen in our past. Why can’t I wish for a return to that?

Oh well, I really don’t expect that (realistically) of today’s politicians. That does make me very sad for my children though..

Formally known as Deagle… “Golf is a way of life…”

Not much experience at all, bro

vernonia Sunday, November 23rd at 6:13AM EST (link)

In Ohio, we’ve banned gay marriage/civil unions in any form in any town, prohibited private casinos on back to back state iniatiatives, and chased smoking from private establishments.

Which of those are conservative state ballot initiatives and which are liberal? Does it really matter?

Evidently, you don’t read, watch or listen to much media outside your comfort zone if your not aware of liberal perceptions of Christian Conservatives. And again, oddly, they use metaphors like “burn at the stake” when they talk too…

We show the greatest contempt for those who most closely reflect ourselves, eh?

Dave Ramsey in 2012!

Ha, believe me I'm aware of Liberal perceptions

dbecraft Sunday, November 23rd at 6:26AM EST (link)

I usually wonder where the news gets their information, but yes, I’ve seen it all.

Preserving centuries of culture might be understandable to even you. The difference between you and me might be that I would allow local laws to prevail NOT federal law (not their business).

That is called republicanism and is against federal controls (except where the Constitution comes into play). No, it does not come into play here. I would agree to civil unions (non-church, not disturbing hundreds of years of common practice).

On State gambling – really how could you support this – it is taking funds from the poor and feeding government. Even this, if the local government voted for it, I would agree. No federal involvement at all…

Smoking, also a local problem. Get the Federal government out of our lives! If the majority vote to ban smoking, I’m in agreement (even though I smoke).

Do you see any differences here between a conservatives views and a liberals?

Any state initiative that is allowed by law to be on the ballot is not only OK but should be obeyed as voted on. Keep the damn Federal Courts out of it! That is of course unless it violates the Constitution (which should be rare!).

n Ohio, we’ve banned gay marriage/civil unions in any form in any town, prohibited private casinos on back to back state iniatiatives, and chased smoking from private establishments.

Which of those are conservative state ballot initiatives and which are liberal? Does it really matter?

Oh, and yes, I spend way too much time reading the news and the internet on almost all subjects….so you will have to try another angle…

I don’t think of you as a liberal, just another inexperienced voter…

Formally known as Deagle… “Golf is a way of life…”

Oh, and I don't expect that you will change

dbecraft Sunday, November 23rd at 6:49AM EST (link)

your liberal attitudes but you really ought to educate yourself on conservatives. Likes most liberals and libertarians, you proceed with preconceived notions of beliefs and practices.

At least you would be in good company – except your on RedState!

Formally known as Deagle… “Golf is a way of life…”

We're off on the wrong foot, DEAGLE

vernonia Sunday, November 23rd at 6:54AM EST (link)

My main concern was that conservatives have embraced the language and rhetorical over-reaches formerly reserved for “Anybody But Bush”-types.

I have read on these pages declarations by conservatives to “never support” the President-elect. So much for politics ends at the water’s edge…

It wasn’t you, it was the other guys, that bugged me more.

I’ve run for a local council seat and won, and later lost a mayoral bid, and it’s sad that local control is the best we can do. There are some petty people in local politics.

Still, would that the voters of Ohio had left the decision to each community…

Dave Ramsey in 2012!

Sorry, but some of your previous comments

dbecraft Sunday, November 23rd at 7:04AM EST (link)

don’t jive with your previous statements.

While you may be a local GOP representative, you do seem like the kind that I would vote against. Sorry…

No hard feelings, just that you do seem like the rest of today’s politicians…not my style.

Formally known as Deagle… “Golf is a way of life…”

Min Pin

Scope (Diary) Sunday, November 23rd at 8:34AM EST (link)

Jaded- Is that a little Min Pin. I have one of those little sweet bundles of bad. Your picture is a great way of saying friendship.

Sarah Palin drove Kathleen Parker stark raving mad

smagar (Diary) Sunday, November 23rd at 10:09AM EST (link)

Which, apparently, makes her a good fit for the WaPo

“Who will stand/On either hand/And guard this bridge with me?” (Macaulay)

The Directors said the same thing about a month ago

smagar (Diary) Sunday, November 23rd at 10:21AM EST (link)

Threeey mentioned several conservative talking heads—Peggy Noonan, Kathleen Parker, David Frum, David Brooks—who should not be permitted to drive and guide the future direction of the conservative movement.

Notice I DID NOT say that they should be silenced. The Directors took pains to make clear that they weren’t saying that either.

What they said (and I agree with) is that these four pundits chose to attack the GOP Presidential ticket—especially Sarah Palin—AFTER the ticket had been chosen and WHILE that ticket was trying to win an election. As a result, these Four Jackasses weren’t being helpful. They were being self-serving instead.

IMO Parker now craves the title of Leader of the Four Jackasses.

She has my vote.

“Who will stand/On either hand/And guard this bridge with me?” (Macaulay)

Kathleen Parker is writing the stuff that WaPo readers want to read

smagar (Diary) Sunday, November 23rd at 10:35AM EST (link)

Or, more to the point, that WaPo editors and staff believe.

IMO many of them think of conservatives as oogedy-boogedy types.

Parker is validating their beliefs.

They think of her as a Jane Goodall or Dian Fossey, who spent years living among the apes. (She currently lives in South Carolina, a buckle of the bible belt).

Now she has returned to civilization to explain the strange living habits of those puzzling animals known as “religious conservatives”.

I suspect that, over the next few years, Kathleen’s columns will sound much like the dialogue in a National Geographic documentary.

With a huge amount of self-righteousness and self-pity thrown in the mix.

“Who will stand/On either hand/And guard this bridge with me?” (Macaulay)

5. When any MSMer brings up the name of Parker...

smagar (Diary) Sunday, November 23rd at 10:42AM EST (link)

…we should simply wave our hands dismissively.

We should make it clear that we dismiss Parker and her opinions. She does not speak for mainstream conservatism.

No matter how much the MSM wishes she does.

News flash to MSM: Just because you hire a “conservative” doesn’t mean that the rest of the conservative movement has to listen to him/her.

If you think that, then it’s you out of touch—not us.

“Who will stand/On either hand/And guard this bridge with me?” (Macaulay)

Both of them? -nt-

NightTwister (Diary) Sunday, November 23rd at 10:49AM EST (link)

-nt-

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. – Winston Churchill

Maybe you would...

DONTREADONME (Diary) Sunday, November 23rd at 2:12PM EST (link)

vote for vernonia. As I found out yesterday, it easy to misinterpret what someone is trying to say in text. See how I reacted to his comment yesterday on my diary. I ended up lighting this guy up for no reason.

Effective Communication for most, including me, occurs when speaky and not written. So I think you and vernonia may have a lot in common when speaking to each other in person. The differences occur in the small details.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

I have updated my piece on Kathleen Parker as I said I would early in November, EPU..

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Wednesday, December 3rd at 1:56PM EST (link)

I know I had told you I spoke with someone and it is in the update….

 

Bravo on the update. What has happened to the recommends?

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Thursday, December 4th at 11:34AM EST (link)

This needs to be known.

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