If so-called “Global Warming” is the disaster for humanity that it is supposed to be, then why did the scientists at the University of East Anglia (UEA) throw away much of the raw temperature data on which their predictions of global warming are based?
SCIENTISTS at the University of East Anglia (UEA) have admitted throwing away much of the raw temperature data on which their predictions of global warming are based.
It means that other academics are not able to check basic calculations said to show a long-term rise in temperature over the past 150 years.
The UEA’s Climatic Research Unit (CRU) was forced to reveal the loss following requests for the data under Freedom of Information legislation.
The data were gathered from weather stations around the world and then adjusted to take account of variables in the way they were collected. The revised figures were kept, but the originals — stored on paper and magnetic tape — were dumped to save space when the CRU moved to a new building.
I guess either the scientists thought that no one would ever question their results or the data was flawed because it did not produce the politically intended result. Either way. If they were paid almost $20 Million for this research then you think they could have spent a few hundred dollars for a hard drive to back up that data that was collected for years?

Data that I thought was proof that all of humanity was doomed if we don’t immediately lay down to a world government that wants to impose draconian edicts that will bring us back from the edge of cataclysmic disaster!
Now Arnold Schwarzenegger is sucking up to Obama with some fantastic fantasies of his own.
Did anyone tell Arnold he is not in Hollywood any longer?
Watch this – and the kicker is they talk about water shortages!!!
The state’s water emergency is unfolding thanks to the latest mishandling of the Endangered Species Act. Last December, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service issued what is known as a “biological opinion” imposing water reductions on the San Joaquin Valley and environs to safeguard the federally protected hypomesus transpacificus, a.k.a., the delta smelt. As a result, tens of billions of gallons of water from mountains east and north of Sacramento have been channelled away from farmers and into the ocean, leaving hundreds of thousands of acres of arable land fallow or scorched.
For this, Californians can thank the usual environmental suspects, er, lawyers. Last year’s government ruling was the result of a 2006 lawsuit filed by the Natural Resources Defense Council and other outfits objecting to increased water pumping in the smelt vicinity. In June, things got even dustier when the National Marine Fisheries Service concluded that local salmon and steelhead also needed to be defended from the valley’s water pumps. Those additional restrictions will begin to effect pumping operations next year.
So here you have a government that shuts off the water to farmers – yet holds press conference after press conference telling us how we will be under water in a few short decades. We can only hope!!
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Um...It's no longer called 'global warming'...
LaborUnionReport (Diary) Saturday, December 5th at 4:58PM EST (link)The term “global warming” is so passe….Especially since it’s snowed in HOUSTON, TEXAS yesterday!
Now, to cover the fraud of Al Gore’s cult, the conspiracy to doctor the numbers, and the out and out attempt to take over the sovereignty of the U.S., it is now more PC to call this crime against humanity “climate change.”
Small point, but it helps to keep the eye on the shifting schemes.
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No, it needs to stay Global Warming
Scope (Diary) Saturday, January 23rd at 11:30AM EST (link)because they don’t get to change the terminology to suit the current day’s purpose. They sold the package of Global Warming, it is now cooling, let them own the sham of Global Warming. I kinda like seeing hot air coming out of Gore’s mouth when it is below freezing.
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muffin Saturday, January 23rd at 11:53AM EST (link)I’ve been saying the same thing since they tried to change the name. It’s Global Warming and they cannot change the name to meet their agenda. Can you see the steam coming out of my ears?
Fortitudine vincimus – By endurance we conquer
It would cost a whole lot more than a couple hundred dollars
6eorge Jetson (Diary) Saturday, December 5th at 5:50PM EST (link)to retain the data and the provenance (the meta data that documents under what conditions the measurements were made, what scheduled measurements failed to collect, etc.).
The costs in development/planning would be much larger than the cost of the physical hardware. Quoting a couple hundred dollars is silly.
Still, your point stands. And I’d go beyond just the scientists at t.he UEA’s Climatic Research Unit (CRU) .
“If so-called “Global Warming” is the disaster for humanity that it is supposed to be, then why did the scientists
at the University of East Anglia (UEA)…” of the Climate Research community not self-organize to ensure that the provenance was retained? .The Climate Research community can’t claim lack of funding. But rather than act as trusted guardians of their precious artifacts, in aggregate they acted in the manner of a dog & pony show. Who cares about accuracy when all we need to do is sell it.
Mayberry Judge: “So let me get this straight…The critical evidence…You left it in the hands of Barney Fife and he threw it away?”
CRU’s Phil Jones: “Yep.”
OK, OK, the couple of hundred was to make a point
izoneguy (Diary) Saturday, December 5th at 6:10PM EST (link)$20 Million – and they dump the data???
So if they spent 1% or $200,000 to save that data – wouldn’t that have been the prudent thing to do? $200,000 can buy a large rack that could save thousands of terabytes of data…..
Small insurance IF this data was so vital to save all of humankind!!!!
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
I'm totally in agreement with your conclusion
6eorge Jetson (Diary) Saturday, December 5th at 6:17PM EST (link)nt
Kowalski just pointed out to me that the data loss occured during as the result of a move
6eorge Jetson (Diary) Saturday, December 5th at 6:29PM EST (link)(purportedly).
I’m guessing that the new space was an upgrade for the well funded group.
Which begs the question, which was more important?
The integrity of the untainted artifacts to help humankind study the impending doom, or the fancy diggs?
Actions speak louder than words.
What's Wrong with circa $200.00
edintexas Monday, December 14th at 9:35AM EST (link)About a week ago I noted a 2 Terrabyte external HD selling for just over $200.00. How many of us recognize how much data it would take to fill a 2 Tb drive?
Besides, George, just because the proper methodology requires all the data (and more) which you cite, what makes you think that is what was collected? When these clowns can show a large increase in “global” ground temperatures in the early 1990s, after Russia shut down a large number of former Soviet Union locations in Siberia, why would they worry about documenting information which would prove they were cooking the books?
Because the original data falsifies their theory...
rbdwiggins (Diary) Saturday, December 5th at 6:19PM EST (link)Couldn’t leave those inconvenient truths where they’d be subject to discovery.
“Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn’t so.” – Ronald Reagan
Which begs the question, which was more important?
izoneguy (Diary) Saturday, December 5th at 7:03PM EST (link)The integrity of the untainted artifacts to help humankind study the impending doom, or the fancy diggs?
And I wonder if the fancy diggs had central air & heat??
Because the original data falsifies their theory…
Heh, these diaries write themselves after awhile…..
Gordon Brown: climate-change sceptics are ‘flat-earthers’
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/6729833/Gordon-Brown-climate-change-sceptics-are-flat-earthers.html
It has also been disclosed that the Government’s chief scientist, John Beddington, was forced to defend controversial claims in the television campaign, which features a father reading his daughter a frightening bedtime story about global warming.
£6m government ad warning about climate change is to be investigated by watchdogs over claims it is misleading and too “scary” for children.
The government has already been prevented from screening the ad during children’s programmes.
But the ASA has still received complaints from parents saying it is too frightening, although most complainants questioned the scientific basis of the claim that climate change is man-made.
An ASA spokeswoman said: “It is not just about the issue of climate change in this particular case. We have had a huge number of complaints about the science but also whether the ad itself is scary for children.”
She said the watchdog would be investigating whether the claims about climate change could be substantiated and whether the ad complied with taste and decency rules.
But because of the complex issues involved the probe is likely to take longer than normal, she added.
The Advertising Standards Authority has received 1000′s complaints about the Department of Energy and Climate Change’s “bedtime stories” ad.
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
It's Gordon Brown & his ilk that are the flat-earthers,
6eorge Jetson (Diary) Saturday, December 5th at 7:52PM EST (link)seeking to squelch honest and open scientific inquiry through hyperbole.
It is incumbent of those asserting a theory to reject the null hypothesis that their theory has no merit. In the case of global warming, the null hypothesis is that man-made emissions of CO2, etc. do not exert a significant effect on the climate.
Until that null hypothesis can be rejected, any honest scientist will acknowledge that Global Warming remains in the realm of speculative science
Throwing away the artifacts while the science is in the speculative state clearly adds to the uncertainty. Those claiming the “science is settled” are basing their statement on flat-earth like dogma, not honest scientific inquiry.
The Russians Did It
izoneguy (Diary) Sunday, December 6th at 11:46AM EST (link)The Russians Did It
Electronic Warfare –
I wonder if Boxer wants to go after the Russians?
Looks like Babs ‘Call me Senator’ Boxer (Moonbat-CA) will have to demand that Putie ‘fess up and hand over his IT KGB goons to be prosecuted for causing ClimateGate. Or, just STFU already.
http://jammiewearingfool.blogspot.com/2009/12/russians-did-it.html
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
Too convenient a scapegoat...
rbdwiggins (Diary) Sunday, December 6th at 12:32PM EST (link)The emails and source documents were very selective and spanned too many years. No way this was a random sampling.
A few of the major news services received, but ignored, much of the same information several weeks before the internet document-dump.
Looks more like an inside job and the work of a courageous whistleblower.
“Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn’t so.” – Ronald Reagan
A Memo To The Global Warming Cult
izoneguy (Diary) Saturday, December 12th at 10:35PM EST (link)Dr. Zero nails it….
A Memo To The Global Warming Cult
http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2009/12/12/a-memo-to-the-global-warming-cult/
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
Developing Countries Block U.N. Climate Talks
izoneguy (Diary) Monday, December 14th at 8:47AM EST (link)http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,580158,00.html
They will never be happy. So screw em….
and let’s get on with re-building our own country.
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
Things are "heating up" at the climate conference
izoneguy (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 9:34AM EST (link)http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1209/30664.html
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
Here they come! The Global Warming Communists, Obama will be so proud
izoneguy (Diary) Thursday, December 17th at 7:25PM EST (link)They can all proudly wear one of these!
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
This puts Dopenhagen in a nutshell
izoneguy (Diary) Thursday, December 17th at 9:51PM EST (link)http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/12/17/climate-deal-flux-obama-heads-denmark-lowered-expectations/
“Clearly, the things that are happening in Copenhagen run counter to what Americans want this administration to be focused on,” Rep. Steve Scalise, R-La., told FoxNews.com. “Instead you have the secretary of state saying the U.S. will give another $100 billion of money we don’t have to countries who don’t like us.”
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
O is even dumber than I thought he was - India, China walk out of climate summit
izoneguy (Diary) Friday, December 18th at 10:59AM EST (link)Who could not see this coming? Obama is that arrogant.
His staff of true believers let him walk right into the field of
landmines. This makes America look weak & pathetic.
Breaking news: India, China walk out of climate summit: Report
http://www.dnaindia.com/world/report_breaking-news-india-china-walk-out-of-climate-summit-report_1324981
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
It is so much fun to glance backwards at a huge wreck
izoneguy (Diary) Friday, December 18th at 11:30AM EST (link)Failure in Copenhagen is not an option
http://en.cop15.dk/news/view+news?newsid=2257
Barack Obama’s speech disappoints and fuels frustration at Copenhagen
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/dec/18/obama-speech-copenhagen
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
If I were writing an article that was a parody...
Jack_Savage (Diary) Friday, December 18th at 12:15PM EST (link)…I couldn’t do much better than the Guadian:
“Tim Jones, a spokesman for the World Development Movement, said: “The president said he came to act, but showed little evidence of doing so. He showed no awareness of the inequality and injustice of climate change. If America has really made its choice, it is a choice that condemns hundreds of millions of people to climate change disaster.”
Friends of the Earth said in a statement, “Obama has deeply disappointed not only those listening to his speech at the UN talks, he has disappointed the whole world.”
The extent of crisis in the talks has taken leaders by surprise. The Brazilian leader, Lula da Silva, told the conference that the all-night negotiating sessions took him back to his days as a trade union leader negotiating with his bosses.”
OK, enough jeering. I need to get to the grocery store to stock up before the massive snowstorm hits NC and VA. Really.
More jeering: Leaders, Activists Throwing in the Towel in Copenhagen
izoneguy (Diary) Friday, December 18th at 3:11PM EST (link)Jeer, jeer, jeer
Leaders, Activists Throwing in the Towel in Copenhagen
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,580584,00.html
SCREW all these communists who slam Capitalism and then want the fruits of our labors from – Capitalism!!!
Chavez needs to go down – like the “Climate Change” conference just did.
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
They are all full of crap
izoneguy (Diary) Friday, December 18th at 11:57AM EST (link)http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1236497/STEPHEN-GLOVER-50-days-save-world-I-listen-doomsayers-werent-ludicrous-hypocrites.html?ITO=1490
Meanwhile his fellow prophet of doom, Gordon Brown, was making his own way to Copenhagen the same day.
This is the man who proclaimed in October that we had ’50 days to save the world’. Before leaving he conjured up on a television programme the certainty of ‘floods and droughts’ with ‘climate change evacuees and refugees’ if agreement is not reached in Copenhagen.
Mr Brown chartered a 185-seat Airbus to take him and 20 aides to Denmark. Was a smaller plane producing less carbon dioxide not available?
Could he perhaps have shared an aircraft with Prince Charles? Might he have considered taking a scheduled flight to the Danish capital, of which there were 16 on Tuesday?
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Show me a climate control zealot and I can often show you a hypocrite, and a hypocrite, moreover, who speaks in apocalyptic terms about the world coming to an end – at a time not long hence and usually implausibly specific – if the rest of us do not immediately curb our lifestyles so as to produce fewer greenhouse gases.
The double standards and the grotesque exaggeration go hand in hand.
Some, at least, of the zealots do not really, honestly believe that things are as bad as they say. If they did, they might not go on serenely generating carbon emissions on such a scale.
They are trying to shock us into action by employing emotive language and invoking terrible dangers. In other words, they are treating us as fools.
Politicians shamelessly twist the facts to scare us witless. There has been an appalling case in Copenhagen this week.
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One such voice is the world-renowned British-born physicist Freeman Dyson, who has written that ‘the fuss about global warming is grossly exaggerated’ and decried ‘the holy brotherhood of climate model experts and the crowd of deluded citizens who believe the numbers predicted by the computer models’.
Nor should we forget that little more than 30 years ago the scientific and political consensus was exactly the opposite of what it is today, as the BBC2 programme Earth: The Climate Wars reminded us on Tuesday in what was an unusual spasm of climate change objectivity on the part of the Corporation.
In 1972 a group of distinguished scientists wrote a letter to the U.S. President, Richard Nixon, expressing their fear that the world was entering a new Ice Age.
If those scientists were so completely wrong then, it is not an affront to reason to question whether the more outlandish climate scientists and their supporters might not be overstating their case now.
As I say, we may not understand climate change, but we do know when we are victims of a fraud.
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
CFACT drops the banner on Greenpeace ship in daring land raid
izoneguy (Diary) Friday, December 18th at 9:48PM EST (link)http://cfact.org/a/1674/CFACT-drops-the-banner-on-Greenpeace-ships-in-daring-land-and-sea-raids
CFACT rechristens Greenpeace’s “Rainbow Warrior” the “Propaganda Warrior”
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
There is "Global Warming" data fraud and then their is real fraud that is costing billions
izoneguy (Diary) Saturday, December 19th at 3:06PM EST (link)Fraud in Europe’s Cap and Trade System a ‘Red Flag,’ Critics Say
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/12/14/fraud-europes-cap-trade-red-flag-critics-say/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:%20foxnews/politics%20%28FOXNews.com%20-%20Politics%29
“This is the problem with politicians trying to create a market for something that the free market otherwise doesn’t value,” Schulz said. “An emissions trading market is an artificially, politically-created market….
“If we pass a system like Europe has, we’re going to get all the problems Europe has experienced,” he said. “You’re asking for a lot of problems.”
U.S. Rep. Joe Barton, R-Texas, ranking member of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, said it’s no surprise cap-and-trade systems are vulnerable to corruption.
Barton said he recently asked the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California to unseal the court file of Anne Sholtz, a former environmental executive who co-created the Regional Clean Air Incentives Market (RECLAIM) in 1999. Sholtz’s company, Automated Credit Exchange, provided a market for companies to buy and sell pollution credits under RECLAIM. In 2005, Sholtz pleaded guilty to wire fraud for using counterfeit credits to pocket more than $12 million. Sholtz was later sentenced to one year of house arrest. (Barton wrote about Sholtz earlier this year for TheHill.com.)
“We already know from an example in California that cap-and-trade systems are vulnerable to fraud, so the discovery of potential fraud in Europe shouldn’t surprise anyone in America,” Barton said in a statement. “What happened in California is that not much thought was given to the possibility that people with questionable intentions could manipulate the system. The case has drawn fresh attention because it looks like the Environmental Protection Agency and the Department of Justice still may not understand how to stop a vastly more destructive, Bernie Madoff-like scheme from taking advantage if the nationwide cap-and-trade system is approved by Congress.”
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
When are you all going to wake-up? Scam, Scam, Scam
izoneguy (Diary) Saturday, January 23rd at 10:48AM EST (link)Godfrey Bloom calls Al Gore, Global Warming profiteer, a crook and a snake oil salesman. Gee, he may be onto something.
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
Bin Laden Blames U.S. for Global Warming in New Tape
izoneguy (Diary) Friday, January 29th at 8:59AM EST (link)Bin Laden Blames U.S. for Global Warming in New Tape
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,584249,00.html
Maybe we can send Al Gore out to find Bin Laden.
Al Laden or Bin Gore???
They must be long lost brothers?
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.