After all, this pressure from the left changed the votes of precisely ZERO Senators.

Of course, we conservatives are terrified of Big Govt. Any human institution will act in its own interest to maximize itself. Even if it wraps itself in happy talk.

That applies to Big Business as well. I’m a capitalist/competionist. In a free market, there are two sides to every transaction. Of course, the individual corporations may very well be schmucks, but nothing keeps them in check like taking my business elsewhere. On the other hand, Big Business may love it when Big Government decrees rules that limit competition or increases demand for their product by govt fiat. I strongly disagree with the left that this is good for Big Business in the long run, as I fully expect Big Government to continue to throw good money after bad to “improve” this framework. Heck, I’ve seen such a dynamic internally in corporations, where “the sacred cow” and its fiefdoms drive obviously inefficient processes to protect internal turf. If the internal competition can be crushed by hierarchy/bureaucracy, it is. That is, unless heroics are successful at defeating the paradigm and changing the game.

And as to the behavior of lobbyists, we conservatives will ask what in the heck did the Left expect? When asked why he robbed banks, Willie Sutton responded “Because that’s where the money was!” When you increase the size of funds directed by govt fiat, it is a certainty that the efforts of the lobbists seeking to siphon off their share will increase. In fact, this right to petition is protected in the First Amendment to the Constitution. There is no solution to this other than the defacto solution of making the payoff smaller by making the funds in play smaller.

but will dump them in a heartbeat. They have no clout. Big Business owns the democratic party. As we are seeing it is the democrats who are really buddy, buddy with Big Business & their lobbyists….

The real hard left can screech all it wants. They got duped and now expect Obama to do something for them. Good luck with that. Unless you can wheel in billions of dollars then forget it.

The conservative Republicans are really the party of the middle class now.

There is a kernel of something in there that WORKS for US to FIGHT with next year and that is the ADDITIONAL 30 million people the Insurance Companies will get to add to their rolls with a LARGE MAJORITY of those being young adults (DO NOT EVER CALL THEM CHILDREN…EVER).

The D’s for whatever reason have ALWAYS been able to paint Republicans as the party of big business and YET here for ALL to see is the D party enlarging the coffers of a select FEW insurers for their bill because the reality is that the LAWS that only allow 5 insurers in the state of CA and all the other states are still in place and so you MUST buy from SPECIFIC companies. The other part of this is the big PHARMA PAYOFF with no re importation of cheaper drugs.

I LOVE big business because WE are a top down society where by those with money HIRE and PAY others and those big businesses with their HUGE salaries get those rich people to BUYING STUFF creating more and more jobs. The bottom line is that D’s have SCREWED the middle class of America and REWARDED big business and in so doing have WRITTEN the commercials for us!

It is no doubt a tawdry way to FIGHT next year but it is a way to WIN! I am pretty DISGUSTED with the tools at the top of big business right now anyway as it appears they gave MUCH more in donations to D’s in 06 and 08 and I know they give to who they think will be the winner but the reality is that the Democrats are the party of BIG BUSINESS now and in 2010