Some Republicans Still Don’t Get It


Some Republicans continue to fumble the clearest, most concise, easiest-to-sell message in recent memory – the simple notion that the recently enacted Healthcare law, already having negative effects on our lives, is unacceptable and must be fully repealed. That’s not hard, is it?

Some Senators get it. Senator DeMint has 15 Senate co-sponsors and growing for his full-repeal bill. And then there’s the almost always reliable Congressman Mike Pence, who said today in the WSJ: “The American people don’t want a government takeover of health care and House Republicans will work every day to repeal this law and start over.”

Amen.

But, apparently for some Republicans – from all across the spectrum – this simple message is lost on them. To wit:

- Rep. Tom Price, the usually reliable Chairman of the House Republican Study Group tosses out this gem as reported by Byron York, “We have to repeal the egregious aspects of this bill and replace them with patient-centered solutions.” What? What precisely, may I ask are the (non-trivial) non-egregious parts of this bill? Please tell me, Mr. Price, because I tend to think that the Chairman of the RSC should be a little more thoughtful than that.

- Sen. Mike Johanns, the relatively new Republican Senator from Nebraska, said that while he believes in the need to start over on health care, repeal is simply not practical. “It would take a lot of changes in personnel, if you will, in the next election cycle and probably even the next election cycle,” Johanns said. NO KIDDING. That’s the point – we need Republicans to get elected to repeal this monster, not to mention the simple clarity of the message – that is, if the message isn’t stepped on by stupid comments like this.

- Senator Chuck Grassley, added, “There are some things in the bill that are almost consensus,” Grassley said. REALLY? What? Please be specific. Some of us want to know what you believe is 1) worthy of maintaining in this bill, and more importantly, 2) how you propose to disentangle whatever you deem, in your infinite wisdom, to be acceptable from the “egregious” provisions (maybe you can check in with Mr. Price).

- Rep. Paul Ryan, the Republican Congressman from Wisconsin who seems to be the most recent darling of the Party, even praised known leftist Senator from Oregon, Ron Wyden, for his efforts to address the tax treatement of employer-provided health benefits, calling him in today’s NY Times op-ed, a “[r]eform-minded leader…” This is the same Ron Wyden who teamed with the soon-to-be ex Republican Senator from Utah, Bob Bennett, to give you a “bipartisan” version of Obamacare, complete with individual mandates, abortion funding and government bureaucrats. To be fair, he did suggest in the op-ed repeatedly that the law should be repealed, but in route to getting there, we cannot allow our supposed stalwarts to saddle up to leftists to “make improvements” which will do nothing but muddy the waters and give Republicans increased ownership of this travesty of a law.

The message is simple. This will not stand. This law will be repealed. We will start over with what the American people want: patient-centered, market-oriented, freedom-respecting reform. End of story.


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We need to acknowledge. . .

msctex (Diary) Friday, March 26th at 1:09PM EST (link)

. . .that something this sweeping in scope cannot take place without some degree of tacit support from the ostensible opposition. Not the “double agent” sort of traitor, but just individuals who for whatever reason buy into the enemy’s propaganda, believe the battle cannot be won, and backtrack from what they should be doing.

 

Every message should start with three words only....REPEAL, BABY, REPEAL!

Cheetah772 (Diary) Friday, March 26th at 1:15PM EST (link)

Get it? It’s just like Drill, baby, drill! Obama was pounded daily by this simple repeating message of “Drill, baby, drill!” during the campaigning season. True, Obama won the election, but it doesn’t change the fact that for a while, he was damaged by this simple message.

I’m no political expert, but I think it should start with something simple and easy to remember. Repeating it over and over will drive the point home in the minds of voters everywhere.

Maybe you can come up with a better, brief message. What do you say?

Daniel 2:20 And he [God] changeth the times and seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding.

How about . . .

davesinsanantonio (Diary) Monday, March 29th at 7:01AM EST (link)

REPEAL . . . deathcare and all other anti-American bills the demrats push through.
DRILL. . . for oil, gas, coal and put Americans back to work.
CUT . . . government spending and taxes used to justify that spending.
SECURE. . . our borders and American citizens within those borders.
DE-FUND . . . all programs that do not enhance American freedoms, and any
agency that encroaches on those freedoms.

 
 

It sounds to me that there is only...

erod (Diary) Friday, March 26th at 1:21PM EST (link)

One senator out of these three that is not serious about repeal. And from living in Iowa durring college I know Grassely is as squishy as they come. Ryan and Price are just thinking of what to do in the present. I agree with you, Hogan that we need to keep their feet to the fire, this law CANNOT and WILL NOT stand.

But, it’s just the first quarter in what is going to be a long fight I think our side will come around and we will see to it.

 

It sounds to me that there is only...

erod (Diary) Friday, March 26th at 1:21PM EST (link)

One senator out of these three that is not serious about repeal. And from living in Iowa durring college I know Grassely is as squishy as they come. Ryan and Price are just thinking of what to do in the present. I agree with you, Hogan that we need to keep their feet to the fire, this law CANNOT and WILL NOT stand.

But, it’s just the first quarter in what is going to be a long fight I think our side will come around and we will see to it.

 

Dave Camp

littlehouse18 (Diary) Friday, March 26th at 1:37PM EST (link)

published a clear, readable timeline of what happens when in this bill. It was chock full of major campaign issues. If the Repubs just made sure the people saw this stuff ( like seniors aren’t allowed to buy a wheelchair until they’ve rented for 13 months), their elections would be virtually assured. I can’t help but be upset that this list wasn’t put out *before* they voted!

But if the Republicans just keep saying Repeal, they’ll look silly.

Link?

Tom Anderson (Diary) Friday, March 26th at 2:16PM EST (link)

I’d like to read Camp’s list.

“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”
- Edmund Burke

danasdaddy- Here's the link

Scope (Diary) Friday, March 26th at 4:13PM EST (link)

http://republicans.waysandmeans.house.gov/UploadedFiles/WM_hcr_timelinel.pdf

 
 
 

Remember in November

red_mass Friday, March 26th at 2:03PM EST (link)

For those Republicans who don’t get it. Read http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704094104575144372942933394.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADSecond
Mass treasurer TIMOTHY P. CAHILL. This monster must be repeal
no way around it. And those who disagree must be sent home for good. Start with Sen Grassely then John Mc Cain

Nifty slogan

davesinsanantonio (Diary) Monday, March 29th at 7:06AM EST (link)

I suggest we repeat it loudly and often to help people to keep up the heat. The demrats are saying that the election is so far away that the voters will have forgotten by then, and will actually re-elect them no matter how mad they are right now. So, let’s keep hearing it . . . Remember in November, Remember in November, Remember . . . .

 
 

Oh well.

RINKER Friday, March 26th at 2:08PM EST (link)

I don’t mind the “repeal and replace” label. There are reforms needed – but we need to offer conservative reforms. We have to have middle America (moderates) behind us to pull of a repeal, and they are going to want to know that we have alternatives…

 

Add Castle to the list...

Zach Oldham (Diary) Friday, March 26th at 2:09PM EST (link)

Rep. Mike Castle (establishment pick to for the GOP Senate nom in Delaware) is another Republican who doesn’t get it. It’s time to Repeal Castle.

http://repealcastle.com/

twitter.com/redhk

 

The problem is too many, even conservatives, accept the democrat premise.

avgjo (Diary) Friday, March 26th at 2:34PM EST (link)

The premise that gov. must be the source of the solution. Gov. is the source of the problem. The inflation began with over regulation, with Medicare, with too much FDA and with not treating adults like adults.

Too much regulation – more paperwork, more CYA, higher prices.
Medicare-gov pays for it, gov regulates it. see above.
FDA – sure we need some oversight, but these guys WAY overdo it. Not to mention it is extremely political. There IS, sad to say, lots of favoritism and nepotism in this ‘scientific’ organization.
Not treating adults like adults. – If I am terminal and I want to try an experimental treatment, I shouldn’t need the government’s permission. IT’S MY BODY.

God, if these people had been around in the 18th and 19th century, we’d still be using leeches, we’d still be bleeding people, and the barber surgeons would still be around, unionized.

Ceterum autem censeo, Obamaecuram esse delendam.

Unfortunately

littlehouse18 (Diary) Friday, March 26th at 7:23PM EST (link)

the public educational system has left many “adults” with the maturity and thinking skills of a ten-year-old. That’s partly why we’re in this mess.

True. But if we went back to the original system,

avgjo (Diary) Saturday, March 27th at 2:37AM EST (link)

natural selection would take its course. I think most people would smarten up REAL quick.

Ceterum autem censeo, Obamaecuram esse delendam.

 
 

It's only your body

davesinsanantonio (Diary) Monday, March 29th at 7:09AM EST (link)

if you want to get an abortion. Otherwise, the libs think they own it. That’s the basic idea of the nanny state mentallity of the left.

 
 

Repeal first, then Rightsize the Fed (Down!)

WmCraig (Diary) Friday, March 26th at 2:57PM EST (link)

Want a message to light up the voters. It isn’t repeal and re-write. Sorry Newt, you are my hero of the last millennium, but you are a general preparing for the last war. Chris Christie has the message. Cut spending, cut the size of government, cut taxes.

Sure, I know if you cut subsidies to states, the states may have to raise taxes. Still, that means 300+ representatives and 100 senators that aren’t taking their cut from my money before they return it.

Here are some ideas.
REPEAL the bill, REDUCE Taxes and spending, RETURN power to the people
REPEAL the bill,REDUCE taxes DOWNSIZE the fed.

REPEAL the bill, REDUCE spending, REVERSE the growth of government.

But these are just a few ideas.

What Governor Christie says is, promise less, spend less, employ less, and liberate more. And too me, THAT is a message dear to everyone who was looking for change.

WmCraig
SolvoReor

www.Freedoms-Light.org

 

This is is what I and others have been harping about for 4 years now

AceInTX (Diary) Friday, March 26th at 3:05PM EST (link)

and we’ve been called Eeyores, condemned as purists and fanatics for our efforts

Many smart people at all levels in the Republican Party and Conservative Punditry were actually making the argument after the passage of the House Bill on Xmas Eve that “The best thing for the Republican Party would be to let the Democrats pass this and run on Repeal when the electorate is up in arms over it’s passage.

I said then I would LOVE to sell some swamp land to anyone who believed that the people currently in leadership and/or the people mentioned in this diary would hold the line and actually fight to repeal this after it passes and I was beaten about the head for my saying so…

YET HERE WE ARE!

Lucy has once again yanked the football out at the least second after Charlie Brown has fully committed proving himself to be a sucker for believing her after she has pulled it away every single time a thousand times before!

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson

Why anyone would look to this bunch of self serving

AceInTX (Diary) Friday, March 26th at 3:08PM EST (link)

liars, opportunists and self aggrandizing hacks and expect them to shed any blood let alone pour out any of their own for something as fundamentally un-American as this pig is beyond me!

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson
 
 

These guys are clueless

GJ Merits (Diary) Friday, March 26th at 3:09PM EST (link)

And my respect for Paul Ryan just went from a 9 to about a 4 in three seconds. If they run on the platform of repeal, man the seats they will gain will be enormous. Run on the platform of every time Obama goes BOO and dares you repeal you crawl under your desk leaving a trail of pee behind you and these guys are gonna hurt the party.

I guess looking at numbers is confusing to them. My only thought is that these guys don’t understand what 55% means. You would think basic math would be something a member of Congress would understand. In case they need any help 55 is bigger than 45 and as more details of this bill come out that 55 is going to get bigger which means the 45 is going to get smaller. Do you want to be on the record as siding with the American people or as a being a bunch of sniveling cowards?

Their parents must be proud.

This is why I keep stating that you can’t rely on Washington to solve your problems. There is not going to be any repeal because of a few nitwits and when the rubber hits the road, the number of nitwits is going to grow and the excuses are going to start flying. I mean, come ON people, we’ve been around the block a couple of times. We are not a bunch of neophytes.

The guy sitting in for Rush said it very well today – I wish I could remember his name. To be conservative means you have to resist the tendency to want to get stuff for your constituents – be it pork or even something as horrible as ObamaCare. It’s not sexy to sit there and not get stuff. You get to Washington and the game takes you over – not the other way around. You begin to notice that to be popular you have to get stuff, or to get a vote you have to agree to give other people stuff, so you figure why should I not get stuff for my people? Kids in a candy store.

So you start to backtrack on your principles. Sure, there are some pols who are principled, but a vast majority are not. Rely on them at your own risk.

So that leaves us with the courts. Want to take any bets the Commerce Clause is gonna be dragged out on this one and stretched to new levels of imaginative interpretation to allow Congress unfettered powers over your life? So what then?

I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents….James Madison

If you want to go fast – go alone. If you want to go far – go together.

To win against tyranny you must embrace not only novel solutions, but fear of the unknown as well.

what do we do then?

jdw4america (Diary) Friday, March 26th at 3:14PM EST (link)

If everyone who reaches dc gets tainted, and we cannot rely on the court – to whom do we turn?

To Ourselves

GJ Merits (Diary) Saturday, March 27th at 1:08AM EST (link)

http://tinyurl.com/yadm625

We have the power. It is our birthright. Use it. While non-violent, it will require sacrifice. But that has always been the case in our nations history when liberty was at stake. If we are unwilling so sacrifice and perform our duty, as stated in the Declaration of Independence, then we will get the government we deserve.

I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents….James Madison

If you want to go fast – go alone. If you want to go far – go together.

To win against tyranny you must embrace not only novel solutions, but fear of the unknown as well.

 
 

I'll take the best on the Courts

huskerchuck (Diary) Friday, March 26th at 3:19PM EST (link)

Mainly because we’ve got four solid Originalists that won’t torture the Constitution, and Kennedy, while a wild card, helped in the cases that gave us the interpretation on the Commerce Clause we have today. So I’m not worried so much about the Courts. I think the case actually has a good shot at getting it thrown out before it can be repealed.

Husker Chuck
God Bless, and I’ll be back soon!

Most Scholars Disagree With Your Analysis

GJ Merits (Diary) Saturday, March 27th at 1:10AM EST (link)

Between the Supremacy Clause and the Commerce Clause we would be very lucky indeed. Even if we win, it is only a battle. The war will still be lost and the march to bigger government will continue. It is the nature of power that the march only differs in speed between the two parties.

http://tinyurl.com/yadm625

I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents….James Madison

If you want to go fast – go alone. If you want to go far – go together.

To win against tyranny you must embrace not only novel solutions, but fear of the unknown as well.

 
 

I must have missed it ..

littlehouse18 (Diary) Friday, March 26th at 7:30PM EST (link)

What did Ryan do? He was so good Saturday night.

On the Hill I was impressed with Steve King. He seems like a good man.

Oh, never mind. Still, his op-ed is mostly good. (nt)

littlehouse18 (Diary) Friday, March 26th at 7:38PM EST (link)
 
 

Said it before.

chabsentia Monday, March 29th at 11:51AM EST (link)

As I have said several times before. Both sides have been trampling on the U.S. Constitution for decades. The Commercce clause has been used many times to justify an action whether it applied or not. It was never challenged in court. The Commerce clause has now become very broad. My guess is that it will stand because any denial based on tit will open up Lawsuits bsed on other aspects of it that did not apply.It is most likely too late . This is a result of voter Apathy for decades. The young know details about Angelina ans Brad and dont even know the names of their Congressional representatives.

 
 

I Dont See as Much Division As Others

Swamp_Yankee (Diary) Friday, March 26th at 3:13PM EST (link)

By 2010, and certainly by 2012, the message has to be more than repeal. It cant be repeal, give us power, just trust us, and then we’ll start from scratch. There will be huge gaps that need to be addressed if the bill is just repealed.

I stand with Paul Ryan on this. There needs to be substantive solutions and answers. Conservatives who rely on a sheer tide of anger that will last two and and years will be dissappointed. And just because someone opposes this bill, doesnt necessarily mean that they oppose everything in the bill and reform.

With respect to Grassley, there are some things that have broad based support. I dont see the need in parsing words at this early stage. The base is angry, but the middle wont hold if we dont offer solutions.

Repeal is a good election slogan, but thats about it. There is an outside shot that it could if we commit to the long march of building super majorities. The louder we scream repeal doesnt mean much if we dont elect winning Republicans from coast to coast. Litigation and reconciliation only offer band aids.

I don't know about that, what if

jdw4america (Diary) Friday, March 26th at 3:26PM EST (link)

The pain starts before the gain? The first Medicare cuts are due to begin in September, unless the social-dems can put it off. But since the Senate is no longer filibuster proof, theoretically the republicans can stall that until right before the election.

If so, we have a prolonged opportunity to expose the lie about not cutting aide to seniors, even if they do bring it to a vote.

Remember, we are fully aware of the dangers lurking in this bill. Some of the citizenry are angry right now over how the law was passed. Some are angry over what this law will cost. If we can get them to focus not only on those issues, but also on what this law actually does, we will not be able to repeal it fast enough.

nancy was not kidding when she said she wanted to pass it so that we could know what was in it. She’s counting on the people losing interest. We need to make sure they don’t.

Focus on the pain. There’s plenty to be found in it.

Doesnt Matter

Swamp_Yankee (Diary) Friday, March 26th at 4:22PM EST (link)

Its all talk right now. The Dems are not going to run with GOP ideas. And the Dems are not gong to amend it now. They are happy its over.

Nothing is happening substantive until after the elections, if ever. But the GOP has to tie repeal to bigger and better things to make the sale for th party.

 
 

Yeppers

huskerchuck (Diary) Friday, March 26th at 3:29PM EST (link)

Exactly what I was thinking, SY. We have to have the solutions in hand BEFORE repeal. Starting from scratch is great… but we need SOMETHING to start with. And so, by definition, that means ‘Repeal and Replace’.

I want to hold people’s feet to the fire as well. But in doing so, I also don’t want to run people out that WILL be reliably with us. Saying something pragmatic in an interview, or in one quote, doesn’t mean NEARLY as much as action. Let’s take a look at the stance they took on bills. What support did they give individual provisions when they came up.

I’ll go to bat to defend Johanns any time you want to battle. I can guarantee you the comments in the World-Herald were pragmatic comments, meant for a pragmatic audience. What you have to understand about Nebraska is that we are pragmatists/realists first (down to Earth immigrants from primarily European countries, with down-to-Earth no nonsense ideas). We’re also Conservative, but not as much as pragmatic, which is where you get Democrats like Exon and Nelson from. Nelson had started to change in his first term in Senate, but not enough saw it.

If you look in that article, all three of our representatives also were pragmatic in their approach to repeal. And all of them, Johanns, Fortenberry, Terry, and Smith, will vote for repeal, if we can get the numbers. But, like the others above, they have to plan for today, and what can be done in the near term, and what can even be done with Obama still as President.

I think we have to look beyond mere words. I know SO many here want to hang their hat on it. But we ALL know that actions speak MUCH louder than words. And all four of these guys voted agianst this monstrosity. Johanns voted FOR the repeal in the Senate. And they all have a history in this State of those kinds of values.

Okay… take your shots, I know they’re coming. I’ve said my piece.

Husker Chuck
God Bless, and I’ll be back soon!

 
 

Replace, then Repeal

vamoose Friday, March 26th at 3:26PM EST (link)

Squishy Reps need to be replaced in the primaries and Dems need to be replaced in November. Then the health care coup d’etat can be repealed. period.

It is not enough that the sleeping giant has been awakened. He must be filled with a TERRIBLE RESOLVE! I don’t hear any resolve in the voices of Price, Johanns, and Grassley, much less a terrible resolve.

 

Spooked

reverelth (Diary) Friday, March 26th at 3:38PM EST (link)

by the afterglow of Obamacare’s 49% “approval” rating maybe? When the fall renewals hit group health plans and sticker shock sets in of the cost of lifting caps and banninng recisions, these front runners will be marching home again like Johnny, hurrah, hurrah.

http://www.libertytreehugger.com

 

Scott Brown is for keeping the "good parts" of the bill

Scope (Diary) Friday, March 26th at 4:20PM EST (link)

The Republicans should be writing a better, more appealing, less costly, more free choice plan, even before the November elections hit. You can’t sell anyone an empty paper bag. Now wait a minute, I just remembered 53% of the voters did buy an empty paper bag in 2008.

Seriously, the Republicans must, must come up with better alternatives than Obamacare, or they will stay in the wilderness. I thought the Republicans always had the reputation as being those with ideas.

Hey, we all knew Scott Brown was a RINO, but

weatherford Sunday, March 28th at 10:57AM EST (link)

he was a real blessing in context.

He was the best Soviet-Algonquian Massachuset had to offer.

As soft as Brown is

eastbaylarry (Diary) Sunday, March 28th at 1:13PM EST (link)

In the context of the ‘dark blue’ of MA politics, he stands out as ‘bright red’.

2+2=4 dammit!

 

As soft as Brown is

eastbaylarry (Diary) Sunday, March 28th at 1:13PM EST (link)

In the context of the ‘dark blue’ of MA politics, he stands out as ‘bright red’.

2+2=4 dammit!

 
 
 

Paul Ryan

RINKER Friday, March 26th at 4:20PM EST (link)

…is a stud. He is one of the most courageous leaders in Congress. His “roadmap” for rreforming entitlements is exactly what this nation needs. Even National Review has criticized him for being too bold. If some of you want to sit back in the peanut gallery and criticize everyone else, why don’t you RUN for office yourself.
On the roadmap – I think we need to have it as our ultimate goal, but we might have to get there incrementally.

 

We WILL Repeal this law OR We Will Repeal You. Pick one. nt

nessa (Diary) Friday, March 26th at 4:27PM EST (link)

“If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Contributor to Unified Patriots

teh twitter

 

Constitutional Cenvention?

mikeid Friday, March 26th at 6:00PM EST (link)

Is this possible even if difficult? Also, it would put every seat in state legislatures in play?

Now wouldn't be a good time

mschmitt (Diary) Friday, March 26th at 6:05PM EST (link)

It would be like opening Pandora’s Box on the secular equivalent of Christmas morning with the current crop of leftists still in charge.

usque ad finem

 
 

Is Paul Ryan a Stud?

ripusa32110 Friday, March 26th at 6:11PM EST (link)

I believe Paul Ryan voted for TARP and the stimulus bill. That is why I haven’t supported Ryan like some others have supported him.

Ryan did not vote in favor of the stimulus bill (nt)

JSobieski (Diary) Monday, March 29th at 2:15PM EST (link)

nt

My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.

STOP THE MADNESS!

A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!

 
 

Face it....

suzyq Friday, March 26th at 6:54PM EST (link)

pretty much these guys are all a bunch of spineless wimps.

my fight song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqKVXu4Gxyk

 

Very fine article by Phil Gramm

mavericktime Friday, March 26th at 6:59PM EST (link)

In today’s Wall Street Journal.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704094104575144370174652834.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADSecond#

 

The false racial accusations by the left and MSM

SoFiMil (Diary) Saturday, March 27th at 9:38AM EST (link)

are a perfect example of why just letting things go to get along and not being seen as “the party of ‘no’” doesn’t work. On the far-reaching policy implications of ObamaCare, the answer cannot be “No thank you,” but rather “Hell no!”

www.suvstrategery.blogspot.com

 

I don't trust Republican senators

mikeybike Saturday, March 27th at 3:32PM EST (link)

I suspect that, despite his very visible profile as the uber-conservative arch-enemy of Obamacare on television, John McCain would have compromised with the Democrats on the bill along time ago, if it wasn’t for a serious primary challenge from a real conservative in Arizona. Lindsay Graham, Snow..these dinosaurs have been there forever, and unless they are gone, nothing will change. Nothing. Instead of being driven over the cliff of totalitarian socialism, we will be gently pushed down the waterslide of said same.
Obamussolini. That’s what we have.

The MSM is really trying to give McCain a pass,

weatherford Sunday, March 28th at 10:28AM EST (link)

and I hate to see him go down the tubes. But the form of combat we have had imposed on us requires bravery different from flying an Intruder over North Vietnam.

I regret it, but he has got to go.

Of course the MSM is giving McCain a pass

Scope (Diary) Sunday, March 28th at 11:49AM EST (link)

they always prop up the weakest of the Republican candidates. It’s their way of trying to destroy the Republican party. I haven’t seen them give Palin a pass, or Ryan, DeMint etc. As has been said here many time, you know who the strongest Republicans are, just watch the MSM, they will tell you. McCain always gets a pass, until it’s him or the Democrat.

Here's how Republican politics usually works

davesinsanantonio (Diary) Monday, March 29th at 7:35AM EST (link)

all the other candidates gang up on the front runner with MSM complicity, until that candidate falls off his horse, then they gang up on the next front runner until he falls. We are then left with the weakest candidate. There have been exceptions, but those have usually done the hard work, often over a period of years, to get to the grassroots and talk with, and listen to, the people. Then, they have enough support to survive this in-fighting. The worst thing we can do is let the MSM determine who our candidate(s) will be (they often try it on state and local levels too).

 
 
 
 

SOME REPUBLICANS WILL NEVER GET IT.

weatherford Sunday, March 28th at 10:08AM EST (link)

Here they go again.

Some mouthpiece for Mitch is apologizing (by inference) to the Obama Regime for being a bit slower than light speed in rubber stamping His Annoited Majesty’s selections for judicial sub-tyrants.

The line went this way: “Gee, why are we being criticized, when we are acting faster on Obama nominees than we did on Bush nominees.”

Well I’ll criticize you. You are a worthless moron and so is your RINO boss.
You may have made nickles with the MSM, but you have a lifetime enemy here.

Perhaps, Senator Hatch will take offense that a staff wimp saw fit to apologize for his committee — to the oppressors. Hatch has seen what is happening to Bennett and may develop a backbone.

But will it be a permanent steel backbone, or

davesinsanantonio (Diary) Monday, March 29th at 7:37AM EST (link)

a temporary icicle on that will melt after his re-election?

 
 

GOP can't repeal Obama-care without 60 Senators

Spiral (Diary) Sunday, March 28th at 12:24PM EST (link)

The problem with repealing Obama-care is that while the Democrats were able to secure a vote on Obama-care because they had, from June 2009 through December 2010, 60 Democrat US Senators, Republicans have never had 60 Republican US Senators.

So, as long as the GOP worships the Senate rules more than the US Constitution, the Unconstitutional and socialist legislation called Obama-care will remain the law of the land.

Republicans US Senators like John McCain and Lindsay Graham value the filibuster rule (especially when the Democrats are using it to block conservative legislation and conservative judicial nominees) and the appearance of bi-partisanship more than they value the concept of fiscal conservatism, limited government or the US Constitution.

So, as long as we continue to believe that the filibuster is a bulwark against socialism, we will continue to be powerless as creeping socialism continues to eat away at the United States of America.

It only takes 41 votes to sustain a fillibuster on funding

JSobieski (Diary) Sunday, March 28th at 12:34PM EST (link)

and Obamacare will require lots of annual appropriation legislation

My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.

STOP THE MADNESS!

A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!

That's the ticket

davesinsanantonio (Diary) Monday, March 29th at 7:48AM EST (link)

It takes two-thirds of both houses of Congress to override a veto. But, it only takes a simple majority to de-fund programs or agencies. Then, the veto becomes a political weapon against Obama. Instead of the Republicans being the Party of No, Obama becomes the man who shut down the government. If Congress cannot override his veto of the budget, nothing gets done until they pass a budget he will sign. So, they keep sending him the same budget and he keeps being the obstructionist. The worst thing they could do would be to pass his budget. The second worst thing they could do would be to pass “continuing legislation” to keep funding government at current levels (that is what usually happens during budget disputes). But, if they refuse to pass continuing resolutions, and he keeps vetoing their budget, we would not be spending money at current reckless rates. We then use our “bully pulpit” to explain to the American people that we are trying to save them their money and Obama wants to take more of it. I think there are still enough sane Americans to support these actions.

One more step

davesinsanantonio (Diary) Monday, March 29th at 7:56AM EST (link)

They can pass continuing resolutions to fund just the military and border security, and any other “essential” part of government, so that we don’t risk becoming just the Party of Obstruction, but not Education, Welfare, etc. Then those people will be screaming at Obama to sign the budget and at least get some money instead of shutting the doors completely. Now, don’t start on me, I know that it would be best to get rid of these things completely, but sometimes we have to walk before we can run. Milk before meat. Etc. If we take too big a bite at first, we could lose the support of the as-yet not fully converted. So, remember, Politics is the art of the possible. It is not to cut off your nose to spite your face. We do what we can and wait for the chance to do more.

 
 
 

Repeal won't happen until Barry is fired

izoneguy (Diary) Sunday, March 28th at 12:39PM EST (link)

2010 – Take back the house and turn off the money spigot….
Cripple O for 2 years and then 2012 – Take back the Senate
& Presidency and the REPEAL all of ObamaCare – the whole thing….
But this will take a sustained effort for years. It won’t happen in Jan of 2011…..

The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.

 

Every time someone on this site hits the repeal button, someone else pops up

weatherford Monday, March 29th at 12:47AM EST (link)

like a jack-in-a-box to point out that we dont have the votes to do it.

You’d think by now this bizarre behavior (counting negative votes) would have stopped.

And here we have got another one who just doesn’t get it.

Repeal is a watch word for a real-time political reason. It is flat out the premiere way to keep voters energized through November this year AND 2012.

I am amazed that something so simple has some in our midst still baffled.

Repeal is a dagger that if not used will surely lose its edge and become as helpful in future combat as would a butter knife.

And I Guess a New President in 2013

donnybrooke Monday, March 29th at 12:58AM EST (link)

can sign a New Executive Order stating that the provisions of the Healthcare Legislation are null and void. Then the repeal can be done in a timely manner.

Now Executive Orders supposedly only apply to the Executive Branch of government, but many have become almost laws unto themselves. There are
several in the hiring and firing of employees, discrimination in the workplace, etc.

It should have as much impact as the Anti-Abortion EO signed by Obama, but will give the Senate and House reason to ignore the provisions of the bill.

“Journalists were never intended to be the cheerleaders of a society, the conductors of applause, the sycophants. Tragically, that is their assigned role in authoritarian societies, but not here — not yet.”
– Chet Huntley -

 
 
 

IF for no other reason, because of the way it was done

jeffersonjohn Monday, March 29th at 7:08AM EST (link)

If for no other reason than the manner in which ObamaCare was rammed down the throats of America, it should be completely repealed. This talk of compromise (read: give the progressives some of what they want now and the rest later) is more of the McCain pragmatism (read: opportunistic) approach to RINO politics. It is too bad that folks like Ryan have been sucked into this strategy.

 

Not too long ago, there was a constitutional amendment

laura_lee Monday, March 29th at 9:03AM EST (link)

in Florida that banned farmers from placing a laboring sow in a restrictive cage so she wouldn’t roll on her babies as they were born. A constitutional amendment.

So now we pass a bill that chains ALL of us TO the laboring SOW, and forces her to ROLL ON US as she struggles.

Unreal.

Repeal, Baby, Repeal!

 

Mckeon California

tex41lb Friday, April 2nd at 4:45PM EST (link)

Another congressman talking adaptation rather than repeal.