UPDATE: In response to the Republican effort to force a reading of the Sanders’ single-payer system amendment, Senator Sanders took to the floor and withdrew his amendment.
As you would expect, Jim DeMint immediately supported the effort, and by several accounts now, it seems that Senator Coburn was encouraged to carry out this strategy by Republican leadership – who are saying they are committed to stopping the bill. Now, the Senate is back to processing amendments – business as usual, after about a 3 hour delay. The question is, what will GOP leadership do next?
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A short time ago, Senator Tom Coburn (R-OK) objected to the the unanimous consent request that the “reading of the amendment be dispensed with” when Senator Bernie Sanders’ (admitted Socialist – VT) single-payer amendment (SA#2837), totalling 767 pages, was called up. According to one calculation, this could take 38 hours to read. It is notable that there are two co-sponsors: Sherrod Brown and Roland Burris.
Now, THIS is how you fight the kind of assault on freedom this healthcare monstrocity represents. Leave no tool unused – force the Democrats to face up to an American people who overwhelmingly do NOT want this bill.
BUT, it’s gets even better.
Right before he did that, Senator Coburn asked unanimous consent for an amendment that would, in effect, certify that all Senators have read and understand the bill.
Senator Max Baucus (D-MT) objected. The specific excange, notable in its absurdity, can be seen here. The specific text follows, and you can see a general summary of today’s floor proceedings here.
MR. COBURN: MR. PRESIDENT, I HAVE ANOTHER UNANIMOUS CONSENT REQUEST. FOLLOWING CONSENT REQUEST WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH A COBURN AMENDMENT THAT WOULD CERTIFY THAT EVERY MEMBER OF THE SENATE HAS READ THE BILL AND UNDERSTANDS IT BEFORE THEY VOTE ON THE BILL.
AND THE REASON I ASK THE UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT THAT AMENDMENT BE AGREED TO AND ACCEPTED IS THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE EXPECT US TO BE DOING. AND SO WE — WE DON’T HAVE A BILL RIGHT NOW. WE DON’T KNOW WHAT’S GOING TO BE IN THE BILL. THE CHAIRMAN HAS A GOOD IDEA OF WHAT’S GOING TO BE IN THE BILL. BUT HE DOESN’T KNOW FOR SURE. ONLY TWO SETS OF PEOPLE, SENATOR REID AND HIS STAFF AND C.B.O. KNOW WHAT’S GOING TO BE IN THE BILL. I SUSPECT SOMEBODY AT THE WHITE HOUSE MIGHT. BUT WE OUGHT TO — WE OUGHT TO TAKE AND EMBRACE THIS IDEA OF TRANSPARENCY AND RESPONSIBILITY THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE CAN EXPECT EVERY ONE OF US TO HAVE READ THIS BILL PLUS THE AMENDED BILL AND — AND CERTIFY THAT WE HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING FOR WHAT WE’RE DOING TO HEALTH CARE IN AMERICA WITH THIS BILL. AN I’D ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT THAT BE ACCEPTED.
MR. BAUCUS: MR. PRESIDENT?
THE PRESIDING OFFICER: IS THERE OBJECTION?
MR. BAUCUS: MR. PRESIDENT?
THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM MONTANA.
MR. BAUCUS: RESERVING THE RIGHT TO OBJECT.
I CERTAINLY AGREE WITH THE BASIC UNDERLYING IMPORT THAT WE SHOULD KNOW WHAT WE’RE VOTING ON HERE. I MUST SAY TO MY GOOD FRIEND THAT PRESUMES A CERTAIN LEVEL OF — OF PERCEPTION ON MY PART AND UNDERSTANDING IN DELVING INTO THE MINDS OF THE SENATOR, THAT NOT ONLY DO THEY READ, BUT TAKE THE TIME TO UNDERSTAND? WHAT DOES UNDERSTAND MEAN? UNDERSTAND THE FIRST, SECOND LEVELS OF QUESTIONS?
I THINK IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO CERTIFY THAT ANY SENATOR FULLY UNDERSTOOD. THEY HEY READ, BUT NOT FULLY UNDERSTAND FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS.
MR. COBURN: I WOULD CLARIFY MY REQUEST. THAT THE INDIVIDUAL CERTIFY THEMSELVES. I’M NOT ASKING SOME GROUP OF SENATORS TO CERTIFY SOME OTHER SENATOR. I’M SAYING TOM COBURN TELL HIS CONSTITUENCY I’VE READ THIS PUPPY, I’VE SPENT THE TIME ON IT, I’VE READ THE MANAGER’S AMENDMENT, AND I, IN FACT, CERTIFY TO THE PEOPLE OF OKLAHOMA, I KNOW HOW TERRIBLE IT’S GOING TO BE FOR THEIR HEALTH CARE.
MR. BAUCUS: THE SENATOR IS ALWAYS FREE TO MAKE ANY REPRESENTATION HE WANTS. IF HE WANTS TO CERTIFY HE HAS READ IT, HE HAS UNDERSTOOD IT, THAT’S THE SENATOR’S PRIVILEGE.
MR. COBURN: THE SENATOR WON’T ACCEPT THAT WE AS A BODY ON 1/6 OF THE ECONOMY OUGHT TO KNOW WHAT WE’RE DOING.
MR. BAUCUS: I CAN’T CERTIFY ANY MEMBER OF THE SENATE HAS DONE ANYTHING AROUND HERE. NEITHER CAN THE SENATOR FROM OKLAHOMA. IF THE SENATOR WANTS TO CERTIFY IT, THAT’S GREAT. ON ANY MEASURE. BUT I CAN’T CERTIFY ON 100 DIFFERENT SENATORS. THAT’S UP TO THE DIFFERENT SENATORS. THAT’S UP TO THEIR MENTAL CAPACITIES AND CONSCIENCES AND SO FORTH. I CAN’T CERTIFY THAT.
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Bravo!
scottbomb (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 12:51PM EST (link)Keep it up, Sen. Coburn. It’s nice to know that SOMEBODY in the Senate is willing to play hardball.
I’m still waiting for my Senators to step up to the plate. Ms. Hutchison? Mr. Cornyn? Beuhler??
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Remember the Speed Reader?!?!?
JLenardDetroit (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 1:19PM EST (link)they called in for the “Reading” when we demanded this before?!?!?
It is about time as I’ve been demanding we stop the practice of NOT-OBJECTING to calls for “dispensing of the Reading of the Bill” and force these Bills to be Read into the Record AS THE BOZOS AREN’T READING THEM AND KNOWING WHAT IS IN THEM OTHERWISE!!! Plus, of course, it is the best tactic at derailing this garbage left. But, again, it is MCLAME that really has too many McCainiac followers and goes on and on with this “cooperation” BS (since he’s a Progressive himself, just a slower drip drip drip one). This “Honorable Senators agreement” BS so they won’t pull the tactic of “Reading” on us — well, guess what — they should!! WE should be demanding the Reading of OUR BILLS also into the Senate Record!!!! Maybe then they’ll start designing reasonable Bills that don’t purposefully drag on for 2,000 pages in order to hide so many things!
If the Democrats want to pull the Speed Reader thing again, I wish they would, as it demonstrates how ridiculous they are!
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All senators are on board ...
joayn (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 2:45PM EST (link)with Coburn, according to Politico.
As per Hot Air: “Democrats are playing a bait and switch trick — wasting our time debating a bill they’ve rejected while writing a new one in secret. Right now, behind closed doors, Democrats are writing a brand new bill, thousands of pages long, and want to rush it through before Christmas.” – DeMint
Evidently, Jim DeMint has stated that he will request that the final bill be read.
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Same old stuff
saterp Wednesday, December 16th at 7:21PM EST (link)I was furious that my 2 TX Senators are sitting on their hands. I blasted them in an email and got the same milquetoast response you get no matter what you say.
Time for real conservatives in the Pub Party
Baucus is ignoring the statement.
Cargosquid (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 12:51PM EST (link)Or he is incredibly freaking dumb.
Either he can certify HIMSELF or NOT. Of course, most Senators won’t want to go on record stating that they knew what was in the bill. They think that being able to blame Reid is safe; that acknowledging total ignorance is a safe bet. Don’t they know that “ignorance of law is no excuse.”
Very True
clowngirl (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 2:58PM EST (link)Senator Coburn is making them take responsibility for their vote so they can’t go pleading ignorance. ( which, in itself, is enough reason to vote them out of office) Baucus is intentionally pretending to misunderstand and treated the matter as a joke – I don’t think that’s likely to resonate with voters.
Fun fact: It took 17 minutes to read the 6 page table of contents
izoneguy (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 12:54PM EST (link)http://michellemalkin.com/2009/12/16/single-payer-on-the-senate-floor/
At that rate – it will take about 35 hours to read just this amendment.
Come on Republicans – bring the hammer down and make them bleed.
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Good
ringthelibertybell Wednesday, December 16th at 3:38PM EST (link)I hope DeMint does force the new House bill to be read in full.
The Sanders amendment is stupid anyway
bk (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 12:54PM EST (link)The Democrats just bailed on expanding Medicare down to age 55 and his amendment is to expand it to cover everyone. If he wants to waste time, Coburn seems happy to help him do so.
P.S. Coburn is from OK not TX.
What bk said about Coburn...
Jonah Shumate (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 1:02PM EST (link)But great post!
Bernie Sanders Secretly Want This To Die?
Swamp_Yankee (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 1:10PM EST (link)I wondered earlier about Howard Dean’s relationsip with Sanders. Vermont socialists are a tight knit crew.
But your right. This amendment is stupid. It doesnt seem that ther is any way this would pass. Why is he doing it then? Time is of the essence for the Dems Leaders. Sanders doesnt seem to care, does he?
Bernie Sanders yanks his amendment....to try to save Reid's
rcov092 (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 2:49PM EST (link)Tukas!
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Brilliant
Swamp_Yankee (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 12:54PM EST (link)The Senators are ensconced in Washington. All the Dems and Lieberman are under a lot of peer pressure. They need some seperation.
They need a weekend off to create some seperation from Obama and Reid. If they can this weekend off or if they can get to Christmas, a week or two at home will really hinder their momentum.
It will be hard to get the weekend off
rj1913 Wednesday, December 16th at 2:18PM EST (link)There’s still the need to file for cloture on the Defense Appropriations bill as that department’s funding expires Sat. That pushes it into the weekend.
Yes, Coburn is brilliant
vamoose Wednesday, December 16th at 5:40PM EST (link)Instead of personally filibustering, he outsourced the job to the Senate clerk. Brilliant!
Senator Coburn
Frozen_Man (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 12:57PM EST (link)has always been and remains to be one of my heroes (along with another fellow from his state J. C. Watts). Congratulations on someone from the Republican side finally standing up and doing what is necessary and what the rules allow to stop this abomination
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about time
Whitesands (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 12:58PM EST (link)People can get a look at such a bureaucratic nightmare. Still being read. The left is totally out of control.
It's about time...
Stephen Halsey (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 12:58PM EST (link)…..someone in the GOP showed some fight. Good for you Senator Coburn. From this point forward everything associated with this big steaming pile of turd should be read aloud….word for word…..slowly and annuciated.
Kill.The.Bill.
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Does anyone know............
caseoftheblues Wednesday, December 16th at 1:00PM EST (link)…if the clerk/clerks read non-stop or will it take place over several days???
Good analysis of what is going on
izoneguy (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 1:04PM EST (link)http://hotair.com/archives/2009/12/16/coburn-fires-warning-shot-across-senate-democrats-bow/
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
My Favorite Quote from the analysis...
yoyo (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 1:52PM EST (link)=======================================================
….any further attempts will mean weeks of bill reading as the legislation effectively filibusters itself.
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Welcome to the downside of 2000+ page legislation, Harry Pelosi.
Keep writing, Dems! We will keep making you read it. You should be finished reading by 2010-ish.
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NOW WE SEE WHAT ONE MAN WITH COURAGE CAN ACCOMPLISH...GO TOM COBURN!!! nt
AceInTX (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 1:04PM EST (link)Ace- I think it was you that posted
Scope (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 2:00PM EST (link)back awhile ago about making the Dems read the bills before they were voted on. If it was you, congratulations, they finally listened to you.
I worte an entire diary last winter when everyone was making excuses saying there was nothing Republicans could do
AceInTX (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 2:33PM EST (link)to stop the anointed one and I said they could have been doing this then!
It’s arguable whether then would have been the best time for it…as opposed to now when the tide has turned against the Dems…but it’s satisfying to see your posts brought to life I must admit!
Thanks for the props!
Ace- I agree, timing is everything
Scope (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 2:57PM EST (link)n/t
I hope this sets a precedent!
clowngirl (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 2:37PM EST (link)Senator Coburn is right. The American people expect ( or at least should expect) that Congress reads and understands every bill they vote on. Every amendment of every bill should be read aloud – and discussed – in the House and Senate chamber before it is voted on. Obviously it will slow down the process but we’ve seen that Congress can waste months trying to pass Obamacare without getting much of anything done and the country survives anyway.
The exchange between Coburn and Baucus is both hilarious and sickening.
I don’t know how even Democrats can stomach the latter:
“I think it is impossible to certify that any Senator fully understood.” and this is something we’re supposed to be ok with? Congress remaking 1/6 of the economy when they aren’t even willing to claim they understand what they voted on.
Tom Coburn is brilliant here. It’s nice to occassionally feel that some member of Congress is genuinely representing you!
This is huge.
Mayhem (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 1:06PM EST (link)I was beginning to question my affinity for Coburn and DeMint, as they have been shockingly absent from the important procedural side of this battle. I’m guessing that Coburn got the go ahead from the GOP leadership on this objection, which means that they are finally ready to play hard ball on this bill. They must also think that things have shifted away from them in the last two days significantly enough to warrant delaying tactics.
This is it, folks. This is what we’ve been preparing for. Time to fight.
James Madison, Jim DeMint, Margaret Thatcher, Ronald Reagan… You get the picture.
I am sure Hannity, Levin, Rush, Beck & Palin
izoneguy (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 1:08PM EST (link)Will be all over this:
I would love to see some quotes splashed across my 52″ HDTV
from some of this insane amendment……
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
Rush is.
gekster (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 2:09PM EST (link)They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
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Ok folks, 2012 is here. Get involved
Mayhem- I actually hope they took this upon themselves
Scope (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 2:04PM EST (link)and didn’t wait for approval from McConnell or anyone else.
Rush has been all over this. My local news is all over this. I understand the MSM TV is fuming over it. The local lead in to the story- “The Republicans have brought the Senate Healthcare deabte to a standstill.” I love this.
Mayhem- I actually hope they took this upon themselves
Scope (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 2:04PM EST (link)and didn’t wait for approval from McConnell or anyone else.
Rush has been all over this. My local news is all over this. I understand the MSM TV is fuming over it. The local lead in to the story- “The Republicans have brought the Senate Healthcare deabte to a standstill.” I love this.
100% GOP behind him. nt
joayn (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 2:50PM EST (link)America is an idea; a noble idea that essentially boils down to the shocking belief that the masses are in fact not asses. John Nolte
Tom Coburn is a hero!
drdavenw Wednesday, December 16th at 1:12PM EST (link)Go, Tom, Go!
You other gutless wonders, pay attention and man-up.
What I don't understand...
itrytobenice (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 8:26PM EST (link)If you were a Republican Senator, wouldn’t you get sick and tired of having Tom Coburn and Jim DeMint showing you to be a yellow bellied coward? Every single time there is a fight to be had, the Coburn/DeMint team are at the point.
If I were one of the 38 remaining senators with the correct letter by my name, my pride would force me to periodically pull up my big girl panties and do *something*.
Instead, they just roll over and show their soft little tummies. How embarrassing.
Proper grammar saves lives.
Let’s eat Grandma.
Let’s eat, Grandma.
Contact Coburn
Frozen_Man (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 1:12PM EST (link)I know many of us have contacted members of Congress to encourage them to stand up agaisnt this horror of a bill. I think that everyone should contact Senator Coburn’s offices to encourage, congratulate, and support him. Here is his contact information:
* Washington D.C.:
172 Russell Senate Office Bldg.
Washington, DC 20510
Main: 202-224-5754
Fax: 202-224-6008
* Tulsa:
1800 South Baltimore
Suite 800
Tulsa, OK 74119
Main: 918-581-7651
Fax: 918-581-7195
* Oklahoma City:
100 North Broadway
Suite 1820
Oklahoma City, OK 73102
Main: 405-231-4941
Fax: 405-231-5051
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That was my thought last night
Castor (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 2:42PM EST (link)Frozen Man, Ï just picked up the phone and called Senator Coburn´s Oklahoma City office to offer my congratulations.
It was time that someone stood up.
ONE MAN WITH COURAGE MAKES A MAJORITY!
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Return to Revolution (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 2:55PM EST (link)Yes, media is already going moonbat over this. I don’t what else republicans need (in polling) to see that they have a majority on their side, but never underestimate their ability to cave. Call and let them know!
Out of hand Constitutional fetishist
Just called Coburn's OK City office
Tom Anderson (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 4:48PM EST (link)The girl I talked with said she would add my name to the already VERY LONG list of names who had called to praise and thank the Senator for what he’s doing on the Senate floor today.
KEEP CALLING!
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Why do politicians lie?
nateleyswhore Wednesday, December 16th at 1:17PM EST (link)Because they don’t want us to know the truth.
This farce would be funny if it wasn’t so serious. If, someday, we can all look back on this and laugh–oh, how we will laugh!
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Cargosquid
nolan Wednesday, December 16th at 1:17PM EST (link)touched on baucus’ being dishonest or dumb (I vote for the latter), but the last paragraph of his statement says it all for me.
“…BUT I CAN’T CERTIFY ON 100 DIFFERENT SENATORS. THAT’S UP TO THE DIFFERENT SENATORS. THAT’S UP TO THEIR MENTAL CAPACITIES AND CONSCIENCES AND SO FORTH. I CAN’T CERTIFY THAT.”
I think his mental capacity is lacking and furthermore, he has no conscience. Coburn isn’t asking baucus, orany single senator, to certify the other sen.’s abilities.
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Is It Just Me?
jenniferjmilleresq Wednesday, December 16th at 2:05PM EST (link)Did anyone else think Sen. Baucus’s expression was weirdly animated and arrogant in the video of that exchange, particularly in the nonsensical part you quoted? I think he appears totally unhinged, but I’ve never seen video of him before.
No it's not just you, Jennifer.
joayn (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 2:56PM EST (link)Baucus has always appeared to me to be a stuttering nincompoop. Did you see him standing behind Harry Reid after they left their meeting with Obama yesterday? Honestly, Baucus looked like he has an I.Q. of 50, or something.
Whenever I see this guy, I ALWAYS think, “Who voted for this moron?” Because he is. Literally. A moron.
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He deserves a big hug! nt
mom2oneson (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 1:20PM EST (link)When will the idiocy stop?
neoavatara (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 1:20PM EST (link)It is amazing… every day, I think Congress can’t get dumber, but apparently they can. They are delusional beyond belief.
And for those in Ohio, like me, please look at Sherrod Brown’s record…it is abysmal.
But ultimately, the good thing is that the progressives are clueless…which could defeat this bill.
http://neoavatara.com/blog/?p=9100
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Congress can get dumber
GregInFla (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 11:37PM EST (link)Just watch the movie Idiocracy to get a good look. It may be where our public school system is leading us as well.
– A true evolutionist would let endangered species die off. Think about it.
– The sign outside the courthouse said no signs allowed. So I took it down.
– Atlas Shrugged is now on the non-fiction aisle at Amazon.
Quorum calls
Mayhem (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 1:32PM EST (link)The next step after reading the bill is to invoke quorum calls. The GOPs should demand that a majority of the Senate is constantly on the floor during the debate on this bill. One, quorum calls take up enormous amounts of time, largely because Senators don’t show up for them. Two, having 51 Senators on the floor prevents key Senators from participating in the “tinkering process” in Reid’s office.
James Madison, Jim DeMint, Margaret Thatcher, Ronald Reagan… You get the picture.
Also
Mayhem (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 1:35PM EST (link)It only takes 1 Republican on the floor to demand a quorum. That means that 50 Democrats would have to come to the floor to meet the constitutional requirement. 50 out of 60 Democrats is a big blow to the negotiation process. If the GOP played this smart, 39 of them could stay off the floor (except for votes), but require 50 Democrats be present at all times. That would be smart tactics.
James Madison, Jim DeMint, Margaret Thatcher, Ronald Reagan… You get the picture.
*That* would be sweet [nt]
Bill S (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 1:43PM EST (link)“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins
I second that! nt
bk (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 2:20PM EST (link)Thank the commie...
phreshone Wednesday, December 16th at 1:33PM EST (link)for bringing up an amendment that is so huge, yet one-third the size of the actual bill, that Harry will cry uncle… oh the delicious tears…
With the payoffs to Burris and now Sanders as well as that 5.0 billion
rcov092 (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 3:05PM EST (link)required to move the entire Strategic Air Command out of Nebraska, Dear Leader’s 1.4 trillion dollar deficit this year is going to look tiny compared to next years.
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Heard the DeMint is now joining Coburn
neutron21sc Wednesday, December 16th at 1:33PM EST (link)and also threatening to read the ENTIRE bill when presented, whatever that bill is. I’m so proud of one of my Senators (and so disgusted with the other)…
Somebody pinch me.
redneck_hippie (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 1:37PM EST (link)The visual is actually a hospital room where they just applied the paddles…”Most biphasic defibrillators have a first shock success rate of greater than 90%”
Did we just go from we’re DOA to having a pulse?
redneck hippie- It seems that a few are waking up from their comas
Scope (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 2:10PM EST (link)and it’s about time. Yahoooo!
a lot more are going to wake up
kyle8 (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 2:50PM EST (link)when unemployment, interest rates, and inflation reach Jimmy Carter proportions and beyond.
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He's not threatening, he's going to do it.
joayn (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 3:00PM EST (link)“According to HA reader Hannah B, DeMint just announced that he would force a reading of the entire bill, too.”
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/12/16/coburn-fires-warning-shot-across-senate-democrats-bow/
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We need the GOP to stand there and issue quorom calls ...
rcov092 (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 3:03PM EST (link)till Reid retires.
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Dems are making God kill kitties
E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 1:39PM EST (link)Ok I’m at work typing this in on my cellphone. If it worked, then I should be knighted. If it did not work, I’ll describe it – it was a picture of a cute little kitty, captioned “every time a Democrat votes for +bamacare, God kills a kitty”
Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
Punch the Hippies h/t IMAO
one more try
E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 1:51PM EST (link)Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
Punch the Hippies h/t IMAO
one of my friends wanna help me out?
E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 1:56PM EST (link)you know what to do
Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
Punch the Hippies h/t IMAO
Here you go EPU...
Aaron Gardner (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 2:04PM EST (link)conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!
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there we go - thanks ABG -nt
E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 2:30PM EST (link)Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
Punch the Hippies h/t IMAO
Wait...I missed where killing cats was a bad thing....
AceInTX (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 2:44PM EST (link)LOL
Now if you had a puupy there you'd have me on board...LOL nt
AceInTX (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 2:45PM EST (link)Ahhhh, you puppy people are nice to kick around
E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 10:18PM EST (link)Just don’t get the feeling dogs run this world. Cats do.
Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
Punch the Hippies h/t IMAO
I've always said cats serve one usefull purpose...
AceInTX (Diary) Thursday, December 17th at 12:20AM EST (link)a moving target…LOL
Ace, have you ever seen a dog try to catch a mouse?
janis (Diary) Thursday, December 17th at 5:25PM EST (link)They might snap one up if they happened to come across it, but nothing beats a good mouser cat to keep a barn from being overrun with the little vermin.
Besides, my almost 5 year old granddaughter wakes up happy and giggling when I put a little kitten named “Snowflake” in her bed in the early morning hours of school days. Trying to drag one of our blue-heeler/bird dog crossed “pups” in to do the same thing would be a mess.
You'd think differently if you had the dog next door that I do
Finrod (Diary) Thursday, December 17th at 12:44AM EST (link)This dog spends hours barking a whiny high-pitched bark every few seconds or so. I’m as non-violent to animals as they come, but this dog is making me want to take a BB gun to it so it **** well has something to bark about.
Let’s get down to brass tacks here. How much for the ape?
LOL...I just don't like the high and mighty air cats present
AceInTX (Diary) Thursday, December 17th at 8:50AM EST (link)even when they are loving you up they raise their tail and present you with a glaring look from ole one eye…LOL
That's the standard cat petter mistake
Finrod (Diary) Thursday, December 17th at 5:04PM EST (link)Pet the whole length of the cat and that happens. Keep your hands to the front half of the cat and you generally don’t have to worry about that.
Let’s get down to brass tacks here. How much for the ape?
LOL...agreed...but I wasn't reffering to a slip of the finger......LOL
AceInTX (Diary) Thursday, December 17th at 7:03PM EST (link)rather the attitude of the cat in presenting themselves to you in such a way
Michigan Senators
nateleyswhore Wednesday, December 16th at 1:50PM EST (link)Our Senators (Levin and Stabenow) are so hopelessly gone that we have to root for Senators from other states. Sort of like what we do with the Detroit Lions.
Stabenow is so stupid that one can only conclude by looking at her that Stupid is served on every buffet in D.C. Levin is basically a lifelong member of the Politburo. He’ll die in his seat.
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States with "D" Senators, call your favorite "R"
JLenardDetroit (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 1:58PM EST (link)I do (Grassroots Michigan discussion on the topic)…. You should call them and let them know how it is IMPOSSIBLE for us to be represented here in Michigan (or your State) and that you want/need them to stand up for YOUR VALUES as well as the values of Conservatives within their own State. This emboldens them and strengthens their position, giving them the increased power of representing the entire Nation as well!
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LOL!!
joayn (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 3:16PM EST (link)“Stabenow is so stupid that one can only conclude by looking at her that Stupid is served on every buffet in D.C.” Righteous.
I can relate. Feinstein and Boxer are mine.
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One can only imagine your pain
nateleyswhore Wednesday, December 16th at 11:57PM EST (link)LOL!!!
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I feel your pain...
AF Sarge (Ret) Wednesday, December 16th at 5:49PM EST (link)…. I’ve got Murry and Cantwell looking out for my “wellbeing” *spit*
Sarge
Sarge
nateleyswhore Thursday, December 17th at 12:01AM EST (link)We have to consider all US Senators as national politicians and go after them whether they are in our state or not. Imagine our friends in northern Cali represented by Boxer, Feinstein, and Pelosi. They are non-humans in the eyes of our Federal Government.
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Sanders' (S-VT) CSHO single-payer orgs DON'T offer Garaunteed Issue!
JLenardDetroit (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 1:50PM EST (link)Rush had a portion of the Reading (I’ve got CSPAN on now and watching the reading) and it states: A CSHO may limit enrollment to avoid overtaxing of the CSHO resources!!!! And, of course, other portions go on to belie the whole BS line of what Democrats claim any/all of the HC takeover is for/about. Still allows limits, rationing, qualifications, etc….
Regards from NoMoTown (the MOTORlessCITY)
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“I think, therefore I am Conservative”
“Conservative by choice, Republican by necessity”
“You can lead a Liberal to the Truth/Facts, but you cannot make them THINK!”
“Romney [No, not my first choice] does NOT have a MORMON problem. He has a, far too many Americans; these days; are MORONS problem!”
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Heil “O” Hell No Obamao is NOT MY PRESIDENT! “No U won’t”
I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
“The first Liberal was Satan” – a Rush caller (other Quotes)
It sounds like the clerk just said
katesmith (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 1:52PM EST (link)Persons can sign up with local healthcare groups unless the groups have become full and additional signups would be a burden on them. Meaning it doesn’t work.
Oklahoma Proud
77redcounties Wednesday, December 16th at 1:55PM EST (link)Though I am a native NY’er I have lived in Oklahoma for over 45 years and call it home. I have raised my family here & now my grand children are all grown and I have recently retired to take life a little easier. As my handle states 77redcounties, that is how OK. voted in the last election, not 1 blue county. I am proud to say senator Coburn is from this great state. Politics are a little kinder here, a lot less confusion, and a lot of good people here. The east coast and the left coast should look at the heartland and learn a thing or two about honesty and morals.
KEEP UP the good work TOM
Oklahoma. 77 counties, all red last election, only state in the union with not a single blue county. We are not only fly over, we are fly around.
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Reading of the amendment..live Cspan II
snowshooze (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 1:55PM EST (link)I am watching over at livenewscams.com it is a horrible thing to listen to all the agencies and regulations formed in the amendment alone..
One blow after the other on and on…Care police, fraud catchers, quality standards panels, appointed positions for death panels…
So many insults so closely fired that it becomes quite droll..eyes glazing over..
Mark
And yet this is but a 700+ page abomination,
neutron21sc Wednesday, December 16th at 2:41PM EST (link)while the MAIN bill of 2,100+ pages is insidious, incremental and exponential in it’s transfer of ultimate control of our personage from the individual to the government on a scale that is mindblowing…
When Did Senator Coburn get elected from Texas?
hunter (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 1:59PM EST (link)Just wondering.
Go Sen. Coburn!
Kill the bill!
hunter
Oklahoma nt
erod (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 4:02PM EST (link)Rationing now being addressed...
snowshooze (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 2:00PM EST (link)It is already placed in the amendment…per capita costs..
A board will dictate the level of funding per capita
While this makes for great theater, it might not be good news for our ultimate goal
Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 2:01PM EST (link)My theory (a tactic which Erick does not agree with) is that the GOP was trying to move this along and try to get a vote on their amendments (hoping a deal breaker would be included), and if not get it to the cloture vote before Reid could cobble together 60 votes on something.
With Leiberman now on board for voting on “something”, I think the GOP thinks that Reid has 60 votes now. That means their only hope is to slow it down and hope for someone to change their mind.
They can probably force this to take until after Christmas for cloture. But we have to hope that someone on the Dem side has to change his mind about drinking the kool aid.
As I said in a tweet to BS and Jeff E last night. This has always been an exercise in what the Dems can get 60 people to agree on. Thinking that the GOP can “kill the bill” is foolish. They’ve never had any way of killing this. The best they could ever do is to make the Dem self inflicted damage as great as possible, and hope that there is no legislative language that the enitre Dem caucus can agree on. More time has always been to Reid’s advantage for getting his caucus to 100% agree.
“If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” – Joe McCarthy
I simply don't agree Dave...big surprise right?
AceInTX (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 3:03PM EST (link)That would be true if it get’s gown to McConnells foolishness of only offering messaging amendments…but if Republicans would just grow a pair…and drag this out till after Christmas…the Dems will be going home to deal with the outrage in flyover country…only to come back and have to face page after page of this monster being read in January and February….and then heading into primary season for the 2010 elections all while Jobs are still being lost…and Obama is doing NOTHING to address it…we can kill this bill if Coburn sticks to his guns and if McConnell decides to man up and do his job!
Ace, actually we do agree
Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 4:56PM EST (link)I was using time in the abstract, not factoring in time Senators have to spend in their districts away from the pressure of the White House and Reid’s staff.
My point is that if time in DC were infinite, it is to the GOP advantage to get this to a final vote quickly, while to Reid’s advantage to take as much time as he needs to get 60 clocks chiming at the same time (to steal a phrase from Ben Franklin).
However, as you correctly note, time isn’t infinite, which doesn’t help Reid. He needs this thing passed before Christmas, just like he needed it passed before the August recess. Once they face the voters, things change. And Reid can’t afford change.
My gut feeling is that timing has been crucial. The GOP needed to try and hurry in the beginning of the month. But once Reid seemed to find a way to buy enough time to get his caucus together (mostly by tabeling the bill to take on the omnibus), then the GOP needed to shift to a stall tactic to try and get to Christmas without passage.
Now did the GOP time it right? I don’t know, they would say yes. Others say they should have started the stalling immediately. In the end, it really doesn’t matter. If Reid can get all 60 to agree to drink the kool aid and commit suicide, despite everyone, including the voters, telling them what an incredibily asinine thing that is to do, then the GOP can’t stop them.
What ever happened to Senators representing their states, and not their party anyway?
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OK...we agree on everything you say here...till your last sentance...
AceInTX (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 8:42PM EST (link)If the Repubs stuck with what Coburn did on every amendment…even their own forcing every single word of every amendment…as well as every single word of the final bill being read….I don’t see how they get out before Christmas…and let’s not forget…reid still hasn’t produced the bill they are trying to amend…I think someone on our side should be standing up and pointing out that we currently have the cart before the horse because we are busy passing amendments to a bill no none has even seen and demand Reid trot it forth to be read on the floor.
there are other stalling tactics others have discussed as well that have nothing to do with this bill…they need to force quorums on every order of business in the senate from adjourning every day to calling the Senate into session every morning…there shouldn’t be a single thing allowed to happen whether it be revising and extending remarks to turning the lights on in the morning by unanimous consent request…make the Dems vote on every single item and function of the US Senate
TPM accuses Coburn of defunding the troops
cwilson (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 2:05PM EST (link)Apparently, the Dems planned to file cloture on the Defense bill today, so that it could be passed by Friday when the current continuing resolution runs out. Thanks to Bernie’s amendment, they won’t be able to do that, unless Coburn grants consent or the amendment — destined never to get more than 10 votes — is withdrawn.
In the TPM world, this means Coburn hates the troops.
Riiiiiight.
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yep and they will attach all sorts of things to that bill
bk (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 2:22PM EST (link)that wouldn’t have a snowball’s chance of passing otherwise
L don't think reid has his 60 votes or he would be
bobojake (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 2:07PM EST (link)cackling like a chicken with cluckie schummmmmmmmer.
Excellent News!
DaveWT4 (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 2:08PM EST (link)This is so great, I just sent the following email to Senator Coburn:
Dr. Coburn,
I just read on RedState.com about your brilliant move in forcing the Senate to read the Sander’s Amendment. I just wanted to say bravo! This is a brilliant move and I wish more of your GOP colleagues would follow suit. Don’t play nice with the Democrats, make them follow every procedural rule to the letter. It should be the goal of all GOP senators to delay the vote on the health care bill as long as possible. It is obvious that the longer this drags out the less chance it has of passing as Democratic Senators are pressured by their constituents. Let the Democrats tear themselves apart over the abortion and single payer issues, the GOP should (for the time being anyway) embrace being the party of NO!
Thank you,
David Transou
PS Feel free to pass this along to the Senators from Texas. I would, but KBH just sends replies with form-written tortured politceese and it seems lately that Senator Cornyn is too busy propping up establishment RiNO candidates against real conservatives.
I sent him one as well, but...
erod (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 4:04PM EST (link)mine was less complicated it read “Thank You! Thank You! Thank You!”
TPM is also claiming Joe Lieberman Wants to Join the GOP
Repair_Man_Jack (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 2:10PM EST (link)They seem to be in bile-spitting insult mode today!
” I side impenitently with the human race against the modern reformer.” – C.S. Lewis
That's silly - If anyone would do so it would be Nelson
bk (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 2:23PM EST (link)Lieberman is pretty liberal on most things outside defense
They're Talking About This As a Necessity for Lieberman to Run, In 2012
IJB Wednesday, December 16th at 2:37PM EST (link)In order to win election in CT, Lieberman would probably be smart to switch parties, as running as an Independent (again) in a three-way race would be dicey in a Hard Blue state like CT.
The other option would be for the GOP to pledge *not* to run someone against him in 2012, so Lieberman can stay Indie, thus leaving it as an Indie-v-Dem race. But I suspect the GOP would only agree to that, if Lieberman pledges to caucus with them or something…
got it - thanks for the clarification nt
bk (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 2:53PM EST (link)Sanders must be withdrawing it
bk (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 2:52PM EST (link)He’s giving up and railing against the GOP. He says the only way to eliminate the “hundreds of billions of dollars of waste and profiteering” is to eliminate all coverage except through “Medicare for all”.
Yes, most people believe the best way to streamline anything is to let the government run it.
Actually, he is on to something...eliminate all coverage, including..
rcov092 (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 3:09PM EST (link)Medicare and Medicaid for first 3,000.00 coverage per person a year, ctastrophic coverage over that from Private Insurance, no restrictions on where they can sell or what they can included in the benefit. But gotta kill the medicare. Use medicare payments to pay for catostrophic coverage for seniors.
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Newsflash 2021...Bernie Sanders Died today at the age of 87...
rcov092 (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 3:11PM EST (link)he was nearing the end of a speech announcing he was withdrawing an amendment to former President Barack Obama’s failed health care bill of 2009.
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ROFLMAO rcov092. Actually, I didn't think ol' Bernie was going
eburke (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 5:35PM EST (link)to make it to the end of the legislative day without having a anueirism much less make it to 2021.
“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”
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Matt Welch in Reason prefers the French system
countessolenska Wednesday, December 16th at 3:16PM EST (link)http://reason.com/archives/2009/12/07/why-prefer-french-health-care
Just to let everyone know, Bernie Sanders withdrew the amendment
Richard Mullins (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 2:59PM EST (link)Bernie cried uncle and now we need to more of what we did today. Keep it up.
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Joe Biden is like a Decrepit Park owner with a Meth lab that happens to not only be a dealer but a user.
Let’s Bankrupt the Democratic paty. Make spend all the money to defend thier candidates.
Bernie's railing at the Republicans ...
joayn (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 3:10PM EST (link)he al wee-wee’d up and making a bigger than usual fool out of himself.
Listen now:
http://cspan.org/Watch/C-SPAN2.aspx
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That's how I found out
Richard Mullins (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 3:18PM EST (link)I listened to him doing it and he’s still crying as we speak. I don’t know why it’s a surprise to find if he would do it. The worse part is that Bernie Sanders dispenses with all the lies he has.
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Joe Biden is like a Decrepit Park owner with a Meth lab that happens to not only be a dealer but a user.
Let’s Bankrupt the Democratic paty. Make spend all the money to defend thier candidates.
I lost a whole hour of work time
Sundayjack (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 3:32PM EST (link)And I’ll have to stay late to finish, but watching Bernie Sanders blow through blood vessels and spritz the podium like a lawn sprinkler – great entertainment.
I eagerly await David Sirota’s next tweet.
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Bureaucracy
Whitesands (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 3:13PM EST (link)Senator Sanders I must be mistaken about your abhorrence to bureaucracy or did I listen to 3 hours of your amendment that would create an even bigger one. The government cannot handle this don’t tell me your centralized approach would be better.
Delaying?
Mike Ferguson (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 10:03PM EST (link)Near the begining of his remarks he says “I never expected it to pass!” So while screaming at the opposition about delaying, he offers an amendment that is 767 pages that he never expected to pass? How is that not a delay? How many hours went into crafting a 767 page amendment, which any amendment of that length would completely change the bill, that not only changes the current healthcare system, but completely scrap it and start over. Not to mention the economic implosion that it would cause, I men think about it, UHC is out of business, Blue Cross….out of business, this isn’t just insane in the normal way, this is diagnosable psychosis…..wait is that covered on the public option???
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Who knew watching Sanders spew spittle on the Senate floor could be so much fun?!! nt/
louisiana (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 3:15PM EST (link)He and Mikulski could have a spitting contest nt
bk (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 3:45PM EST (link)Does anyone have a video link of that? nt
erod (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 4:06PM EST (link)Sanders link
Sundayjack (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 8:52PM EST (link)http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/290733-4
35-plus very damp minutes.
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Awesome, Sanders slution...be like Taiwan.
rcov092 (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 3:19PM EST (link)n/t
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Coburn for Majority Leader!
Raven (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 3:49PM EST (link)Or at least for Minority Leader. In any case, let’s dump the Mitchy-girl for Coburn in leadership.
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Fire...
mdyou (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 4:13PM EST (link)…the Senate Parlimentarian!
Can we still put Senate Dems on the record re Sanders' amendment?
SoFiMil (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 6:14PM EST (link)Question for RedState Parliamentarians:
I would have loved to put Senate Democrats on the record as to a vote on Sanders’ amendment. Is it possible to ask for a non-binding vote (or even a resolution) on Sanders’ amendment, with any official vote coming only if and when his amendment is read? Senator Coburn could even ask that this motion pass by unanimous consent.
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Senator Coburn is a physician...
David123 (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 8:44PM EST (link)so he probably knows more about healthcare than anybody else in Congress
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Coburn should keep up the challenge
Common_Cents (Diary) Wednesday, December 16th at 8:50PM EST (link)and make them read the bill even though Sanders pulled it, which I think actually takes a unanimous consent to pull.
I liked McConnell talking about a precedent of caning senators. I would whole heartedly support caning of the elected elite.
Obama=Golfer in Chief, Leading from,
behind, the Back Nine.Leaders don’t create movements. Movements create leaders. Get involved. Your future depends on it.
Govt “invests” YOUR tax money for POLITICAL return rather than economic return.