Have you been smoking “Hitler’s Pope” and the other horse manure that’s been peddled the last several years about Pope Pius XII? Your comment implies approval by the Church of the Holocaust. Read the articles collected here in general: http://www.catholicleague.org/pius/framemain.htm and specifically this: http://www.catholicleague.org/pius/nyt_editorials.htm

Then get back on here and take it back.

Is too much to rego over. The analogy works like this.
In the 30′s The RCC failed to speak out against the Nazi party and Hitler’s anti-semetic tendancies. The future Pope Pious XII signed a concordant legitimizing them in ’33. When the pure aggression started, the RCC begain criticizing and supported anti nazi movements. Too little, to late. A subgroup of the RCC, the majority of the German CC remained loyal to Hitler.
Now, the RCC failed to vociferously denounce Dear Leader ZerO for his Infanticide tendnecies. As a result, many Catholices voted for him, where non should have. A subset group of the catholic faith in America represented by Notre Dame is legitimizing him by having him speak and tacitly thereby his Infanticide tendencies.
The point being that the line is being moved back again, and not being stood strong on at an early time, before anything that is done is to little, to late, again.
He should not have been invited to Notre Dame, they are rationilizing their invitation, like the RCC rationilzed their early neutrality to Nazism.
Debating the exact timeline and culpability of individuals and organizations during the 15 years from 1930-1945 of the interaction between the RCC and Hitler is beyond the scope of a commentary, probably beyond the scope of several books.

the argument that you make about the Holocaust – which I’m not – exactly WHAT does that have to do with this issue.

The Catholic Church has been steadfast in it’s teaching on abortion. If you want to criticize them for something, criticize them for not taking firmer action against so-called catholic elected officials who support abortion. On that issue you can make a good argument. Of course you have to make the same argument in relation to Evangelical churches who tolerate membership by proabortion reps as well.

This issue stands on it’s own merits and bringing up the Nazi crap (and it really is crap) or any other issue – like child abuse by priests, which is not crap – is nothing but deflection.

I’ll say once again, the Catholic Church leadership has been steadfast in their opposition to abortion. I wish the Protestant side of the aisle could say the same.

I don’t thin they are ever going to show character or any inegrity, most are corrupt. I know Bush/Cheney made mistakes, who among us has not? I may be one of the few, but I do not think they did anything corrupt, I believe they did what they thought would do to protect us and they did do that.

I am happy to see a fellow Catholic Mary Ann Glendon to say no! I do not go to church everyw week, biut every week or two I go to chapel in our office bldg. to pray. I also pray at home, at bedtime as my mother taught me, etc.

why not attend the ceremony? Then, when Obama goes up to speak, stand and turn one’s back to him, perhaps with outstretched arms for dramatic effect. No yelling — just a silent testimony convicting him of those lives that have been silenced through abortion. If enough people choose to do this I think it would have a greater impact than empty seats. This way he and the nation as well as the MSM will have to see the protest rather than pretend it doesn’t exist. I would think there are sufficient numbers of graduates, parents, family, alumni, and even faculty who would be willing to participate. I know I would if I had the opportunity to be there.

Therein lies the rub.
A large number of fat useless butts parked on Protestant pews every Sunday also voted for the Obamanation.

There is no resolving the rift between Bible believing faiths and the objectives of the pro death crowd, unless you are exercising recreational chemistry. (Not recommended)

Most of the Black churches in the Carolinas that I have been around become political organizations around election time, spewing politics and vote for the Demoncrat from the pulpit.
Really sad, there will be a price to pay for throwing Jesus under the bus, if not here, later.

That is not to disparage the churches , black and otherwise, that are about their Father’s business. I commend them.

And I have a basic problem with a “white” church or a “black” church.
Neither is Biblical. Sunday morning services in Protestant churches used to be the most segregated gatherings in the country.
I trust that number is improving.

The bottom line as smagar, brings to light, there are a lot of people in church every week that are lying to their self or their God.
(Guess they think he can’t see them through the voting booth curtain…)

Sadly

protests because the lamestream media didn’t publish any, not because they didn’t happen. They did and they are. They even have their own web site: http://www.ndresponse.com/

Further, Fr Jenkins has refused to meet with a student group opposed to the upcoming commencement address and honorary degree involving the former junior senator from illinois:

http://www.ndresponse.com/press.html

There’s a name for “Catholics” who voted for the current occupant of the White House. Some would say they are heretics. They are, more accurately, Protestants, who, for what ever reason, refuse to physically leave the Church they have long since abandoned.

n/t