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	<title>Comments on: Group to President Obama: Fire Napolitano Now</title>
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		<title>By: Aaron Gardner</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/hogan/2009/04/21/group-to-president-obama-fire-napolitano-now/#comment-490</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you continue to purposefully ignore the *FACT* that the courts based their decision on the sexuality of the people creating a new protected class by using the EPC.  This is the justification that will be used to make bisexuals a protected class as well.

You continue to be disingenuous.   And keep avoiding that...hence you aren&#039;t to be taken seriously...despite you being a lawyer in training.

I wouldn&#039;t expect you to understand...having no grasp on common sense and what not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you continue to purposefully ignore the *FACT* that the courts based their decision on the sexuality of the people creating a new protected class by using the EPC.  This is the justification that will be used to make bisexuals a protected class as well.</p>
<p>You continue to be disingenuous.   And keep avoiding that&#8230;hence you aren&#8217;t to be taken seriously&#8230;despite you being a lawyer in training.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t expect you to understand&#8230;having no grasp on common sense and what not.</p>
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		<title>By: nickinvirginia</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/hogan/2009/04/21/group-to-president-obama-fire-napolitano-now/#comment-489</link>
		<dc:creator>nickinvirginia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 15:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Bisexuals must be allowed to marry both a man and a woman.&quot;

- And they would be in a state that recognizes same sex marriage.  However, this is when we disagree, and that is fine: 

&quot;Since bisexuals would be allowed to marry two people so could people who are heterosexual otherwise the law would not be equal.&quot;

- Bi-sexuals wouldn&#039;t be allowed to marry two people.  The marriage law would become gender neutral and state something like the following:  &quot;Marriage is between 2 people regardless of sex.&quot;  
- Bi-sexuals having a preference for both sexes won&#039;t be discriminated against, because they can marry whomever they prefer to marry (male or female).  However, as I said above, the amount of people you can marry is a separate and distinct from the sex of those whom you marry (in a same-sex marriage state).  Bi-Sexuals will have more options as to who they can marry (since they can now marry the same sex), but having to only marry 1 other person won&#039;t discrminate against them anymore than you or I having to choose 1 female.  This is where we disagree.  I feel I am right, but if a case ever comes before a court in a state that argues for polygamy based on same-sex marriage then we can both find out.

- As far as the makeup of the court.  In order to accept a case at least 4 members of the court have to sign off on it.  With 4 raging liberals on the bench, the polygamy case was still denied cert.  So, I don&#039;t think a more liberal court would really matter, and even if granted cert. I still don&#039;t think it would be for any other reason than to, once again, reject polygamy, but on a different basis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Bisexuals must be allowed to marry both a man and a woman.&#8221;</p>
<p>- And they would be in a state that recognizes same sex marriage.  However, this is when we disagree, and that is fine: </p>
<p>&#8220;Since bisexuals would be allowed to marry two people so could people who are heterosexual otherwise the law would not be equal.&#8221;</p>
<p>- Bi-sexuals wouldn&#8217;t be allowed to marry two people.  The marriage law would become gender neutral and state something like the following:  &#8220;Marriage is between 2 people regardless of sex.&#8221;<br />
- Bi-sexuals having a preference for both sexes won&#8217;t be discriminated against, because they can marry whomever they prefer to marry (male or female).  However, as I said above, the amount of people you can marry is a separate and distinct from the sex of those whom you marry (in a same-sex marriage state).  Bi-Sexuals will have more options as to who they can marry (since they can now marry the same sex), but having to only marry 1 other person won&#8217;t discrminate against them anymore than you or I having to choose 1 female.  This is where we disagree.  I feel I am right, but if a case ever comes before a court in a state that argues for polygamy based on same-sex marriage then we can both find out.</p>
<p>- As far as the makeup of the court.  In order to accept a case at least 4 members of the court have to sign off on it.  With 4 raging liberals on the bench, the polygamy case was still denied cert.  So, I don&#8217;t think a more liberal court would really matter, and even if granted cert. I still don&#8217;t think it would be for any other reason than to, once again, reject polygamy, but on a different basis.</p>
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		<title>By: DONTREADONME</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/hogan/2009/04/21/group-to-president-obama-fire-napolitano-now/#comment-488</link>
		<dc:creator>DONTREADONME</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 03:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>haven&#039;t been around long enough to know any better.  What strikes me as naive is the want to call out judges as a way to dictate cultural fabric.  It is a shame but if the judges said no and the voters said yes he would be complaining about the judges.  What is the point, he wants it to be so and so shall he find a way to bolster his case.  Unfortunately, more and more kids are falling for this same logic, all part of the &quot;diveristy&quot; indoctrination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haven&#8217;t been around long enough to know any better.  What strikes me as naive is the want to call out judges as a way to dictate cultural fabric.  It is a shame but if the judges said no and the voters said yes he would be complaining about the judges.  What is the point, he wants it to be so and so shall he find a way to bolster his case.  Unfortunately, more and more kids are falling for this same logic, all part of the &#8220;diveristy&#8221; indoctrination.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Gardner</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/hogan/2009/04/21/group-to-president-obama-fire-napolitano-now/#comment-487</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 02:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>His cause is the destruction of the moral fabric of our nation.

His cause is to subvert people like scope who is susceptible to his callings.

Just another leftist...this is what they do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His cause is the destruction of the moral fabric of our nation.</p>
<p>His cause is to subvert people like scope who is susceptible to his callings.</p>
<p>Just another leftist&#8230;this is what they do.</p>
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		<title>By: DONTREADONME</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/hogan/2009/04/21/group-to-president-obama-fire-napolitano-now/#comment-486</link>
		<dc:creator>DONTREADONME</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 02:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I refuted every one of his points, basically the guy fails to understand that whole little point of reference, i.e. definition of marriage is the reference.  He seems to fail in his understanding that the overwhelming majority of states have statutes, laws or constitutional amendments protecting marriage as between a man and woman, but I guess that doesn&#039;t matter because a judge said so, WTFO.  

Anyway, I had written quite the rant three times as long as his longest and I said, Why waste my time?  He is using judges in Canada to defend his case, and he is 26 and still wet behind the ears.  That nick cat just a one trick pony apparently.  He loves to take every subject and somehow turn it into gay unions.  Again, WTFO, whats this dudes cause?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I refuted every one of his points, basically the guy fails to understand that whole little point of reference, i.e. definition of marriage is the reference.  He seems to fail in his understanding that the overwhelming majority of states have statutes, laws or constitutional amendments protecting marriage as between a man and woman, but I guess that doesn&#8217;t matter because a judge said so, WTFO.  </p>
<p>Anyway, I had written quite the rant three times as long as his longest and I said, Why waste my time?  He is using judges in Canada to defend his case, and he is 26 and still wet behind the ears.  That nick cat just a one trick pony apparently.  He loves to take every subject and somehow turn it into gay unions.  Again, WTFO, whats this dudes cause?</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Gardner</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/hogan/2009/04/21/group-to-president-obama-fire-napolitano-now/#comment-485</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 02:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He is claiming he is a libertarian....as for scope....well maybe he forgot how I defended him when people were calling his a Palinbot.


I am not feeding the trolls for good debate...and scope is a dumbass for suggesting that.  I am refuting his leftist crap.

I am done playing nice with these folk.

I wish that they didn&#039;t come on our site and sully it the way they do...but as long as they are I will be here to expose them and call out their BS.

If Scope wants to be an apologist for that type of crap that is his fault not mine.

My advice to scope is to write a  diary once in a while supporting Republican or conservative positions since in his glorious 7 months here he never has.

Until then he can STFU about my style and he can definitely take his opinion of what I am the most guilty of and shove it right up his 4th point of contact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He is claiming he is a libertarian&#8230;.as for scope&#8230;.well maybe he forgot how I defended him when people were calling his a Palinbot.</p>
<p>I am not feeding the trolls for good debate&#8230;and scope is a dumbass for suggesting that.  I am refuting his leftist crap.</p>
<p>I am done playing nice with these folk.</p>
<p>I wish that they didn&#8217;t come on our site and sully it the way they do&#8230;but as long as they are I will be here to expose them and call out their BS.</p>
<p>If Scope wants to be an apologist for that type of crap that is his fault not mine.</p>
<p>My advice to scope is to write a  diary once in a while supporting Republican or conservative positions since in his glorious 7 months here he never has.</p>
<p>Until then he can STFU about my style and he can definitely take his opinion of what I am the most guilty of and shove it right up his 4th point of contact.</p>
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		<title>By: aesthete</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/hogan/2009/04/21/group-to-president-obama-fire-napolitano-now/#comment-484</link>
		<dc:creator>aesthete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 01:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The report is so vague and non-specific, that it&#039;s difficult to say that it is anything other than politically-motivated. It doesn&#039;t list preventative measures, specific groups, or even specific extremity of beliefs, but only very vague categorizations under which many non-extremists fall into. Although I believe that the report on &quot;Left-wing extremism&quot; was also at least partially politically motivated, it does list specific groups and organizations that participate to some extent in extremist activity.

Granted, right-wing extremists tend to operate as &quot;lone wolves&quot;, but instead of dealing with the problem of identifying the lone wolves from a crowd of completely benign conservative citizens, the report offers a crude, and in some ways incorrect, summation of views that can be attributed loosely to extremists and strongly to non-violent conservatives and libertarians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The report is so vague and non-specific, that it&#8217;s difficult to say that it is anything other than politically-motivated. It doesn&#8217;t list preventative measures, specific groups, or even specific extremity of beliefs, but only very vague categorizations under which many non-extremists fall into. Although I believe that the report on &#8220;Left-wing extremism&#8221; was also at least partially politically motivated, it does list specific groups and organizations that participate to some extent in extremist activity.</p>
<p>Granted, right-wing extremists tend to operate as &#8220;lone wolves&#8221;, but instead of dealing with the problem of identifying the lone wolves from a crowd of completely benign conservative citizens, the report offers a crude, and in some ways incorrect, summation of views that can be attributed loosely to extremists and strongly to non-violent conservatives and libertarians.</p>
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		<title>By: DONTREADONME</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/hogan/2009/04/21/group-to-president-obama-fire-napolitano-now/#comment-483</link>
		<dc:creator>DONTREADONME</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 01:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>using the same old citations of a few court cases that somehow prove he is right, and then demands that we go and find him court cases that say otherwise.  I do not think we need to cite court cases because the obvious court outcomes in the past have been wildly in denial of this so called &quot;right&quot; of gay marriage.  Plus, judicial override of the people will only serve to swing the pendulum hard right, and I am sure that most certainly is not what he wants.  

Our definition of marriage is the baseline thought, the burden of proof lies with him.  Anyway, he seems to not understand that what he wants is to move the reference line and if denied it, that is somehow against some sort of right....  Fruitless debate with tired research.  You could go to CATO or Heritage and find enough cases against as there are for, and you do not have to go to Canada to find them.  Sheesh I have better things to do.

Lastly, he will never stop until he has found all of the information he can on the internet that he can somehow use to support his case.  What is the point, give him the rope and he will hang himself with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>using the same old citations of a few court cases that somehow prove he is right, and then demands that we go and find him court cases that say otherwise.  I do not think we need to cite court cases because the obvious court outcomes in the past have been wildly in denial of this so called &#8220;right&#8221; of gay marriage.  Plus, judicial override of the people will only serve to swing the pendulum hard right, and I am sure that most certainly is not what he wants.  </p>
<p>Our definition of marriage is the baseline thought, the burden of proof lies with him.  Anyway, he seems to not understand that what he wants is to move the reference line and if denied it, that is somehow against some sort of right&#8230;.  Fruitless debate with tired research.  You could go to CATO or Heritage and find enough cases against as there are for, and you do not have to go to Canada to find them.  Sheesh I have better things to do.</p>
<p>Lastly, he will never stop until he has found all of the information he can on the internet that he can somehow use to support his case.  What is the point, give him the rope and he will hang himself with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Gardner</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/hogan/2009/04/21/group-to-president-obama-fire-napolitano-now/#comment-482</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 00:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Should he have spoken badly about Sarah Palin first.

Don&#039;t talk about things you don&#039;t know.

These aren&#039;t people who will just go away if you ignore them. 

These are people who need to be confronted an taken to task for their lies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should he have spoken badly about Sarah Palin first.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t talk about things you don&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>These aren&#8217;t people who will just go away if you ignore them. </p>
<p>These are people who need to be confronted an taken to task for their lies.</p>
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		<title>By: Doc Holliday</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doc Holliday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 00:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol.</p>
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